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Things were rolling on X over the weekend and if somebody says it wasn't a historic and wild one needs to get their heads examined ASAP!

Elon Musk has officially fully endorses Donald J Trump's run of the United States Presidential campaign

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812256998588662068

Also the now historic photo after the attempt of his life on stage but still has the awareness of being defiant against terrorism:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812258574049157405

He is still going to the scheduled rally in the state of Wisconsin, while his handlers opposed it and suggested to him to have it delayed by 4 days but he refused to do that.
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/trump-lands-in-milwaukee-for-rnc-still-on-track-to-speak-214838341989

Will still be speaking at the bitcoin conference 2024 in Nashville Tennessee later this month:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/donald-trump-to-speak-at-bitcoin-2024-conference-in-nashville
https://www.wsmv.com/2024/07/14/trump-still-scheduled-speak-bitcoin-conference-nashville

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Quote from: rdbase on July 13, 2024, 05:39:23 AM

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The ripple lawsuit from the SEC is just about settled and this had been keeping large corporations such as an X from doing business with them.
And what symbolism if they did add XRP to X.
Wouldn't they seem to go hand in hand with each other? Musk could buyout Brad Garlinghouse to instate himself as the new CEO.
He did it to Tesla from the two founders and then with Jack Dorsey formerly known as Twitter.

I guess, because of his obsessions of the letter X, XRP would make sense.

But if there aren't any new rumors that haven't been yet shut down, i don't think that Ripple fits in his modus operandi.

He bought the twitter to have an audience and attention, and large part of that is crypto audience, so naturally we at least considers every opportunity to pander his audience.
And this is based only on my feelings about it: but i think twitter has more XRP haters then xrp shillers.

And one thing that fits in his autism is, that autistic people sometimes subconsiously copy people they are surrounded with. And since elon just bought the twitter, which is flagship for trolls, it naturally also affected his level of maturity. As in result: i think XRP is too mature for him. It's just not edgy enough.

IF doge would be a company, that he would probably try to buy somehow. And Bitcoin he can't be CEO of and i think that's why he sold it, not because PoW. And when it comes to X in names, i would be surprised if he wouldn't be trying to buy the brand name "Xtraordinary" at low price with some shell company.

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The ripple lawsuit from the SEC is just about settled and this had been keeping large corporations such as an X from doing business with them.
And what symbolism if they did add XRP to X.
Wouldn't they seem to go hand in hand with each other? Musk could buyout Brad Garlinghouse to instate himself as the new CEO.
He did it to Tesla from the two founders and then with Jack Dorsey formerly known as Twitter.

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Quote from: rdbase on July 04, 2024, 08:08:06 AM

No news about Musk and his company's plans to incorporate any sort of cryptocurrenies on his platform lately.
But he will be doing some changes to the platform many are not so happy about:

https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-twitter-remove-repost-retweet-like-reply-buttons-count

Whoa! That's new. Did he ever tried to survey at how people will react first before he do this kind of change in the one of the most popular social media that he now owns? There's a chance that they won't like it. I like it though, it will become like a news outlet for everyone you follow without interacting. More like an online newspaper or for others, the diary of their followed celebrity. Cheesy

I think it's better.

I don't know if this is real or not but I believe it can be possible.
Elon Musk’s AI hints at potential XRP adoption on X

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Elon Musk’s AI, Grok, has initiated discussions by announcing the potential use of XRP and XLM as payment options on X (formerly Twitter). This was made public following a query by Amelie, a crypto influencer based in Dubai to X’s AI assistant, Grok, about the possible adoption of XRP or Stellar (XLM) for payments on the X platform.

https://www.cryptopolitan.com/elon-musks-ai-hints-x-platform-xrp-adoption/

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Regardless of the speculation, Grok concluded that X’s definitive plans for its payment system are not clear. The AI assistant advised the crypto community to wait for further developments, highlighting the importance of patience as X reveals its official payment integration strategies

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No news about Musk and his company's plans to incorporate any sort of cryptocurrenies on his platform lately.
But he will be doing some changes to the platform many are not so happy about:

https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-twitter-remove-repost-retweet-like-reply-buttons-count

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So whatever happened to adding digital payments aligning cryptocurrency as an option for x payments.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/elon-musk-rushes-to-debut-x-payments-as-tech-issues-hamper-creator-payouts/

Wouldn't this solve any issues he faces with all this regulatory red tape in each state? The SEC will be in tatters by the end of 2024 anyways by the end of this election year and it will fully back the use of cryptocurrencies or does Elon not believe this to be true?

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Quote from: o48o on June 13, 2024, 06:23:50 AM

Anyone who knows anything about chatgpt would understand that it doesn't have anything to do with "intelligence". It's basically fancy text prediction bot that's based on statistical correlations. How do i know this while i don't even code and he does not?

I don't think it's about the AI or anything, it's about the business, he is doing this to take out the competition and he want his own project to be the one injected on their products. That's one way on how to stop something to make a move, a threat. Cheesy

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Elon Musk threatens to ban Apple devices from his companies

This is big coming from him. It could make an impact to the market of Apple because I bet most of their equipment are using an Apple brand but it's also going to hit him with his financials if ever he takes this leap. Changing all those equipment because of this will be a lot of money spending.
Again, the power of his words against a big company. This will be a big fight. Grin

His concern is valid and reasonable but will this lead to totally broken business cooperation among Elon's companies and Apple, OpenAI, I suspect it will move to this way.

One way or another, soon they will come to agreement and the possibility is no OS-integration of OpenAI in Apple's iOS and their devices. Musk knows that how big iOS is and he will create massive problems for his companies, staffs and users of Tesla, SpaceX and other companies he owned by doing this serious movement. Dust will settle down like how he withdrawn his lawsuits against OpenAI and their found Sam.

It will. But what else is his option here in case Apple continue to use the said AI? I think he will have a hard time finding an equipment as good as Apple and it will probably just be a waste of resources if he continue to do so. That's an unwise move as a businessman just because of this kind of update.
If Apple will weigh the number of buyers of their product against the whole company of Elon, well I think there's more buyer outside that one company only.
It's his posts that is trying to stain the name of them which I think will hurt them becuase of the number of Elon's followers who might do the same.

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Quote from: Catenaccio on June 13, 2024, 12:11:10 AM

His concern is valid and reasonable but will this lead to totally broken business cooperation among Elon's companies and Apple, OpenAI, I suspect it will move to this way.
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Is it though? Sounds like he hasn\t watched the keynote video and got already community noted

And these 3 comments under it in a row pretty much summarize his hypocrisy

He is just bitter about not being able to take over OpenAI company and put himself as a founder of it. So he is bashing it on any change he gets...

This is a good example tweet on how he doesn't understand what ChatGPT is or how it works:

Anyone who knows anything about chatgpt would understand that it doesn't have anything to do with "intelligence". It's basically fancy text prediction bot that's based on statistical correlations. How do i know this while i don't even code and he does not?

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Quote from: amihada on June 13, 2024, 02:25:47 AM

Elon is a big businessman, businessmen only think about profit. So it's very natural that when he releases news, of course his goal is only to talk about Tesla. The world is paying attention to Elon. Currently, whatever he says will become public material.

Yes profit is key for an owner of a company and in his case companies to survive and prosper.

Also for them to thrive and continue to move mankind forward into the future.
As he sees digital money - cryptocurrency is the way of the future and not the old banking system who uses dirty fiat.
The next slide to the above is him producing a bottle of lighter fluid and a box of matches. Grin

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Elon is a big businessman, businessmen only think about profit. So it's very natural that when he releases news, of course his goal is only to talk about Tesla. The world is paying attention to Elon. Currently, whatever he says will become public material.

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Quote from: Reid on June 12, 2024, 11:55:44 PM

Elon Musk threatens to ban Apple devices from his companies

This is big coming from him. It could make an impact to the market of Apple because I bet most of their equipment are using an Apple brand but it's also going to hit him with his financials if ever he takes this leap. Changing all those equipment because of this will be a lot of money spending.
Again, the power of his words against a big company. This will be a big fight. Grin

His concern is valid and reasonable but will this lead to totally broken business cooperation among Elon's companies and Apple, OpenAI, I suspect it will move to this way.

One way or another, soon they will come to agreement and the possibility is no OS-integration of OpenAI in Apple's iOS and their devices. Musk knows that how big iOS is and he will create massive problems for his companies, staffs and users of Tesla, SpaceX and other companies he owned by doing this serious movement. Dust will settle down like how he withdrawn his lawsuits against OpenAI and their found Sam.

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Elon Musk threatens to ban Apple devices from his companies
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/elon-musk-threatens-to-ban-apple-devices-from-his-companies/ss-BB1o0oES?ocid=BingNewsSerp#image=1

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Elon Musk announced Monday that he'll ban Apple devices from his companies' premises if the iPhone creator goes forward with its planned OpenAI integration. Apple held its annual Worldwide Developer's Conference Monday, and the biggest takeaway was OpenAI's ChatGPT will be paired with Siri.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1800265431078551973

This is big coming from him. It could make an impact to the market of Apple because I bet most of their equipment are using an Apple brand but it's also going to hit him with his financials if ever he takes this leap. Changing all those equipment because of this will be a lot of money spending.
Again, the power of his words against a big company. This will be a big fight. Grin

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With this banning of guests and even visitors to the factories I believe he is doing it because with compliments of his StarLink satellite systems he could even create his own cellular phones to rival the iphone:

source: https://decrypt.co/234689/elon-musk-apple-device-ban-chatgpt-security-privacy

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on June 10, 2024, 03:52:28 PM

Elon musk is already known as a public figure whatever he is doing today both on media or TV he has a motion for doing that, he doesn't involved in a business where he won't profit from, he main target could be to sell his product tesla motor and spaceX. I think whenever we are following any information that could be dropped by him we should be very mindful especially cryptocurrency related update because he might dump on a larger scale where little investors could lose heavily.

Elon is a smart man even before he was recognized as the richest no one expected elon for him to start from batteries and now have expanded is business using data. And with the kind of plan elon have in mind he will continue to become rich because he wants to be number one in most of the most important sectors starting from transportation, social media housing and many more. We know that most if is inventions are going to be under a very close observation. Even when he wanted to go into AI I don't know if it was still approved and even if it was approved they won't allow the public to have access to it we all know the dangers people can do with it. So anything elon does is to make him self remain in business. And if it won't benefit him he won't start it am sure of that.

And in cryptocurrency most influential people want to use the market to their advantages and if it dumps they might buy and when it goes up they will sell. Rich people are always looking for that single line and they will make use of the opportunity very well. But tesla and space x are all for profit.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on June 10, 2024, 03:52:28 PM

Elon musk is already known as a public figure whatever he is doing today both on media or TV he has a motion for doing that, he doesn't involved in a business where he won't profit from, he main target could be to sell his product tesla motor and spaceX. I think whenever we are following any information that could be dropped by him we should be very mindful especially cryptocurrency related update because he might dump on a larger scale where little investors could lose heavily.

It is a business, so if they are not turning a profit year in and year out then those businesses will just shrivel up and die.

Also, Musk does not like the competition either from his most recent move.
On the heels of the main announcement during the WDC Apple conference that the iphone will have Open AI integrated into it, he had an announcement of very own about what he thought about a rival company trying to gain more appeal. Since he has his own AI company named Grok.

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Musk warns that he will ban Apple devices if OpenAI is integrated at operating system level
https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-he-will-ban-apple-devices-if-it-integrates-os-with-openai-2024-06-10

Elon Musk threatens to ban Apple devices from his companies over OpenAI partnership
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/10/elon-musk-to-ban-apple-devices-from-his-companies-over-openai-deal.html

Elon Musk threatens to ban iPhones and Macs at his companies - All of them!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/tech/elon-musk-apple-ban-openai/index.html

Good for him as he has the last say of what happens at his own companies!

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Elon musk is already known as a public figure whatever he is doing today both on media or TV he has a motion for doing that, he doesn't involved in a business where he won't profit from, he main target could be to sell his product tesla motor and spaceX. I think whenever we are following any information that could be dropped by him we should be very mindful especially cryptocurrency related update because he might dump on a larger scale where little investors could lose heavily.

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^^
Maybe give him a chance because I don't see anyone else doing anything at the moment who has the influential power such as he does at this point in time. He is trying to do good as the post on X would show many who were speculating if he was going setup Tesla in the most populace areas on the globe:

https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-drops-biggest-hint-tesla-india

So attempting to get billions of people to drive electrics cars instead of gas guzzlers using fossil fuels is a bad thing? Undecided

There is also some shareholders of the Tesla stock who are upset about his $50bln payout package recently discovered and what it actually entailed:
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/06/why-the-fight-over-elon-musks-pay-at-tesla-wont-end-with-shareholder-vote

https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-firm-as-nvidia-falls-after-stock-split-analyst-makes-this-elon-musk-pay-call-live-coverage

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Quote from: HideYourKeys on May 04, 2024, 02:33:13 AM

I do not trust Elon tbh... he might get more profit with his doge manipulation

Dude, that's the target on why he is boosting it. To make more money. I thought that was pretty obvious. Imagine doing it for no good reason. Just for fun. That will be the stupidest thing that he would do as one of the popular names in the world.

Quote from: danadc on May 04, 2024, 09:07:24 AM

I don't understand Elon Musk's intentions. Are you a person who has everything in life for money? Do you want more money? I don't know, but I think Elon loves him, because I don't see any other way for him to be a person like that. He spoke badly about bitcoin and that condemned the most experts to go against him, and the bitcoin community doesn't accept him very much, almost I don't do it because it seems to me that he is an egocentric person, and he is also a very millionaire person, with many plans and projects even to go to other planets, so what I think he wants is more attention for him, for them to adore him and for them to say which is the best, all that egocentrism, I still remember when he spoke badly about bitcoin and made it drop in price.

He didn't just talk bad, he sold a huge chunk of his investment, that is why.
Regarding his ego, well he is rich, most rich people have lots of that. But I don't think we can go against it because he has the brain, history, and business to back it up. All we could do is criticize him but if you are not a popular person, that won't matter to them.

Attention. He badly needs that. For a business to grow you must always be on the hype. What he is doing is trying to be on top of that hype so that his expensive products can be bought and it will grow more to more expensive items.

I am neutral when it comes to him. I think he is good for the world and yet can cause chaos too if not controlled right.

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Quote from: Antotena on May 23, 2024, 01:53:53 PM

Quote from: rdbase on May 10, 2024, 06:12:36 AM

Funny how you say all this with a Elon Coin as your banner.
So can your views be bias just for the sake of holding a signature to a coin named after the topic we are discussing?
Because to me that is not being truthful to ones self if you are getting blinded by your campaign on the forums.

I was confused with your statement at first until I saw Elon banner at the top of your comment, I guess that must have been a command from above from the Eloncoin or just participant gas lighting just to stay in their spot. But I don't know the motive behind this Elon stuff, don't know how long they want to use another man influence who doesn't give a damn about a project, altcoins has lost its value even more.

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Anyways, there was one thing you said which can be valid. The rich are greedy.
Just look at Warren Buffett for instance.
He has as much money as a man can know what to do with in ones life yet he wants and makes more.
It is a power thing obviously. He can't seem to get enough of it.
To him money is power but for Elon I believe it is the number of companies he owns and relaying he is right to the world. So Twitter was the ultimate prize to him because now he has a platform to do and say whatever he wishes to without anybody else to tell him otherwise.
Just look at what the SEC tried to do to him with their investigations on X.
Of course, nothing will come of it.

Elon is a business man that always stood on business, watching his pattern this year he doesn't seem to be interested in crypto that much, he is more focus on AI than crypto this season and I guess there is more he is seeing than what we are not seeing, opportunist and greedy man!

Elon made everyone to believe in Bitcoin after his stock did 6x and all of a sudden he became a pro Bitcoin and then move to Doge, what a typical man with influence will never do. If the SEC doesn't sue him with all this, then I think man is bigger than America. I have seen people protect him saying all kind of things that he never advice anyone to buy Doge after he bought at the bottom, an ordinary man with influence wouldn't try this and go free.

True and had it not been for this article of ARK invest announcing a stake of $60mln into his startup AI company, I wouldn't have known about it at all.
"xAI is the Musk's latest venture and was launched in March 2023 in a bid against major players in the AI space like OpenAI, Google and Microsoft. "
source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/cathie-wood-ark-invest-60m-elon-musk-xai

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Quote from: rdbase on May 10, 2024, 06:12:36 AM

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Funny how you say all this with a Elon Coin as your banner. Undecided

So can your views be bias just for the sake of holding a signature to a coin named after the topic we are discussing?
Because to me that is not being truthful to ones self if you are getting blinded by your campaign on the forums.

I was confused with your statement at first until I saw Elon banner at the top of your comment, I guess that must have been a command from above from the Eloncoin or just participant gas lighting just to stay in their spot. But I don't know the motive behind this Elon stuff, don't know how long they want to use another man influence who doesn't give a damn about a project, altcoins has lost its value even more.

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Anyways, there was one thing you said which can be valid. The rich are greedy.
Just look at Warren Buffett for instance.
He has as much money as a man can know what to do with in ones life yet he wants and makes more.
It is a power thing obviously. He can't seem to get enough of it.
To him money is power but for Elon I believe it is the number of companies he owns and relaying he is right to the world. So Twitter was the ultimate prize to him because now he has a platform to do and say whatever he wishes to without anybody else to tell him otherwise.
Just look at what the SEC tried to do to him with their investigations on X.
Of course, nothing will come of it.

Elon is a business man that always stood on business, watching his pattern this year he doesn't seem to be interested in crypto that much, he is more focus on AI than crypto this season and I guess there is more he is seeing than what we are not seeing, opportunist and greedy man!

Elon made everyone to believe in Bitcoin after his stock did 6x and all of a sudden he became a pro Bitcoin and then move to Doge, what a typical man with influence will never do. If the SEC doesn't sue him with all this, then I think man is bigger than America. I have seen people protect him saying all kind of things that he never advice anyone to buy Doge after he bought at the bottom, an ordinary man with influence wouldn't try this and go free.

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