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newbie
Activity: 249
Merit: 0
March 31, 2018, 11:47:41 AM
they just lowered it to 5 sats its not fully open I bet the dev sold some @ 10 and realized no one was buying  at that price why would they really poor suckers that did !!! .... they (the devs) are trying to get as much money as possible cant wait to sell and never look back !
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
March 31, 2018, 07:08:02 AM
Free trade is open now on StockExchange. Smart decision, I hope that quality of this project will defend the stock price.  Wink
They opened it, but the coins do not enter the exchange.
member
Activity: 301
Merit: 31
March 31, 2018, 06:50:24 AM
Free trade is open now on StockExchange. Smart decision, I hope that quality of this project will defend the stock price.  Wink
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
March 31, 2018, 06:07:55 AM
Good day. Tell me about the stock exchange. How much time does it take to transfer money from the purse to the exchange? In the morning I made a transfer, and the coins have not yet arrived. The support service on the exchange is silent. Thank you.https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2018/3/31/c23f51af90dab314d9f0ab9f0d5b2841-full.png
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 31, 2018, 02:27:16 AM
Number of sales orders and level volume at 10 sat is not growing. Cool Cool Cool
Why??? ... I have my last 2 deposit pending during 14 hours . These transfers were made using "address book" in the wallet (previous 5 transfers were OK).
Extra agreement with exchange to stop deposits?

PS: decision to fix price at 10 sat is killing coin. No trade volume, No ability to sell coins and stupid agrument of developers "elya worth far more then 10 sat because we shape the coin of mobility which is fueling the balance of your stealth communications. Sell price is 10 sat mini because value of a simcard is 35$ (480000 elyA that we discount 29000 to the community this week)" looks like waste of miners electricity and time.
member
Activity: 301
Merit: 31
March 30, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
Yes. ASIC is death for the decentralization of CryptoNote. The idea of CryptoNote was to create a protocol that does not allow ASICs (decentralization). NiceHash is practically a botnet for the network. And yes, the miners using now ASICs and botnets with NiceHash are equal to cheaters, because they use a vulnerability in the protocol that allows them to replace the time stamps. In other words, the difficulty of the network does not increase for them and they just roll up coins, while all other CPU/GPU miners get crumbs.

It is just prove of my previous post: all who are now crying that they can not sell cheaper than 10 it's possible those same cheaters.


I can agree that ASIC producers are cancer for coins. Only Bitmain earn last year around 4 billion (and probably much more, because it is impossible to control how much they mine prior of selling their "new" units)!!! 
But for the first time We can see that community action result with antiASIC fork of Cryptonight. All major coins will switch (Monero, Sumo, GRAFT, IPBC...) so those Cryptonight ASICs will be only luxuries doorstops.

Conclusion what You make in last quoted sentence are not sustainable.
I would really like to sell my ELYAs for 10 or more satoshies, but it is impossible now. Could I sell it ever for 10 satoshies? Is there any guarantee that it would be possible? There is a lot of cryptonight coins like TurtleCoin or BBScoin, what is impossible to sell, now. No one want to buy it. You can HODL it forever, like a souvenir. That is the reason why I am ready to sell it for lower price, accept the lower profit (just a little above the spent electricity). I am not ready to speculate with coin price.
Unfortunately with this strange price FIX it is impossible.


newbie
Activity: 249
Merit: 0
March 30, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
We don't like it and there are many coin yes indeed but we are miners and mine for PROFIT  (maybe that's a shock to you idk) if we cant sell our mined coins those days spent minning this fucken coin are lost... Miners DON'T MINE FOR FREE .. Nor do they want to wait Days maybe weeks for their coins to sell at a FORCED sale price ... volume was $600 yesterday (not joking) .... you think miners are cheaters because they want to sell ? other coins are down in price maybe they and I want to sell to BUY SOMETHING ELSE !!! which is our right, their our coins we should be able to sell them whenever and for whatever the market says PERIOD ! NOT THE DEVS NOT THE EXCHANGE
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
March 30, 2018, 10:46:23 AM

Yes, I heard at the first time some facts:
1) "exploit in Cryptonote allows cheaters to use botnet" - maybe some hackers are guilty and users who save money on anti-virus tools???
2) ASIC = cheater? It means that BTC mining is one big cheat Lips sealed
3) Nicehash = cheat? It is a service for which people pay money... it is a fault of coin developer which not use proper difficulty algo.

@But that's bad luck, they can not sell Elya for 1 satoshi@ => OK, they put orders for 10 sat, and still can not sell?Huh Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed
It is just prove of my previos post:
Is there any "extra" agreement with stock.exchange to execute dev's sale orders first?) maybe it is second part of your "business" model => fix price on exchange and sell yours.
I am ready to sell my coins cheaper but it is not allowed by "community" decision... it looks like "free" and competitive market in North Korea)
 

 
Yes. ASIC is death for the decentralization of CryptoNote. The idea of CryptoNote was to create a protocol that does not allow ASICs (decentralization). NiceHash is practically a botnet for the network. And yes, the miners using now ASICs and botnets with NiceHash are equal to cheaters, because they use a vulnerability in the protocol that allows them to replace the time stamps. In other words, the difficulty of the network does not increase for them and they just roll up coins, while all other CPU/GPU miners get crumbs.

It is just prove of my previous post: all who are now crying that they can not sell cheaper than 10 it's possible those same cheaters.

Nobody pulls you by the ears and forces you to use this coin. Do not like it, there are many other coins.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 30, 2018, 04:49:41 AM

Yes, I heard at the first time some facts:
1) "exploit in Cryptonote allows cheaters to use botnet" - maybe some hackers are guilty and users who save money on anti-virus tools???
2) ASIC = cheater? It means that BTC mining is one big cheat Lips sealed
3) Nicehash = cheat? It is a service for which people pay money... it is a fault of coin developer which not use proper difficulty algo.

@But that's bad luck, they can not sell Elya for 1 satoshi@ => OK, they put orders for 10 sat, and still can not sell?Huh Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed
It is just prove of my previos post:
Is there any "extra" agreement with stock.exchange to execute dev's sale orders first?) maybe it is second part of your "business" model => fix price on exchange and sell yours.
I am ready to sell my coins cheaper but it is not allowed by "community" decision... it looks like "free" and competitive market in North Korea)
 

 
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
March 30, 2018, 04:25:35 AM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

Colegue C421, why You call a liar someone who express his own opinion? Do You have maybe some additional information about this? Share them, please. Maybe We do not see it.
What strategy developers plan to use to motivate the buyers to pay 10 satoshies per coin? Probably they have some ideas how to start trading.
Unfortunately, now there is almost no trading at all.
We all want higher prices for Elya, but how much are buyers ready to pay?
  
He is lying about a scam. Based on his own opinion without proof. Stocks.exchange work fine. Mining work fine. I guess there would be an opportunity he would require a sale on 0.000000001. I think he is just dumper from Nicehash. IMHO.

I see several week points:
1) Difficulty algo - it reacts too slowly for hashrate changes - most of the coins use more progressive approach.
2) "I think he is just dumper from Nicehash" - why you are so negative?? dumper just for opportinity to sell coins on exchange?Huh? from Nicehash... Maybe devs made a mistake with point 1) which allows to grab a lot of coins with cloud mining and after it small miners pays a bill??? who is guilty for it???)))
 

Oh yes. You certainly did not hear anything about the exploit in Cryptonote, which allows cheaters to use botnet, ASICs and Nicehash. Karbo urgently does hardfork these days. Take an interest, how many yesterday these cheaters were mined from the "air" Sumo and Karbo. These cheaters are mined and other CN coins. But that's bad luck, they can not sell Elya for 1 satoshi, because the developers acted wisely and limited the minimum threshold for dumping.
Therefore, all who are now crying that you can not sell cheaper than 10 it's possible those same cheaters.
P.S. Sorry for my English. Google Translate (c) Smiley
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 30, 2018, 03:13:03 AM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

I will take several weeks/days to find buyer at 10 sat (if any) Tongue Tongue Tongue
Current mining "profit" is 3.13 USD/day per 1KH/S... but you should sell coins first Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

PS: I am ready to sell at 6-9 sat but it is not possible = no happy buyer and no happy seller (me) = elya makes people unhappy Tongue Tongue Tongue (it is a joke)
Don't be a dumper and Elya will make you happy) 10 satoshi is great idea!

There are only 2 transactions on exchange for today ..... for ... 0.00027969 (around 2 USD)  Grin Grin Grin

Buy   0.00000010   1796.90000000   0.00017969   29.03.18 05:31:52
Buy   0.00000010   1000.00000000   0.00010000   29.03.18 03:53:39

How long will it take to sell 12230000.56215730 coins    for 1.22300005 BTC?HuhHuh?
Actually trading is stuck Huh Huh Huh Huh

Is there any other idea or view on this fact? Huh


TYPE   PRICE PER ELYA   ELYA AMOUNT   BTC AMOUNT   DATE
Buy   0.00000010   3469.87000000   0.00034698   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   71789.79000000   0.00717897   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   9670.75277066   0.00096707   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   2438.13272150   0.00024381   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   8525.66000000   0.00085256   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   5179.84000000   0.00051798   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   409.99000000   0.00004099   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   125164.62361467   0.01251646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   55164.62361467   0.00551646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   35164.62361467   0.00351646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   4000.00000000   0.00040000   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   27101.24142857   0.00271012   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   2789.37223526   0.00027893   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   14183.98000000   0.00141839   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   22480.00000000   0.00224800   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   21.00000000   0.00000210   29.03.18 20:00:31
Buy   0.00000010   5712.18443143   0.00057121   29.03.18 19:56:00
Buy   0.00000010   7283.72556857   0.00072837   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   3959.62000000   0.00039596   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   999.99000000   0.00009999   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   8044.48000000   0.00080444   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:55:47
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:53:38
Buy   0.00000010   26262.00000000   0.00262620   29.03.18 19:53:10
Buy   0.00000010   17664.75556857   0.00176647   29.03.18 19:52:55

Is there any "extra" agreement with stock.exchange to execute dev's sale orders first?) maybe it is second part of your "business" model => fix price on exchange and sell yours.
I am ready to sell my coins cheaper but it is not allowed by "community" decision... it looks like "free" and competitive market in North Korea)
newbie
Activity: 103
Merit: 0
March 30, 2018, 12:53:41 AM
Discord Server https://discord.gg/MuBUJPm

Get 1 free simcard (worth 35$) for place 1 to 10 with a proof (screenshot) of request to receive our coin on www.coinexchange.io

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HOWTO:
1. go to www.coinexchange.io login/or creat a Account
2. write a support ticket with the request to list elya
3. take a screenshot for proof 
4. go to #invite-bountie
5. create an invite link - check the box "never expired"!
6. Tell the world about Elya!

just enter " !invites " to see your stats

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Fake invites will be detected and everyone banned/deleted - also the person who did invite these!

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newbie
Activity: 103
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 05:34:02 PM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

I will take several weeks/days to find buyer at 10 sat (if any) Tongue Tongue Tongue
Current mining "profit" is 3.13 USD/day per 1KH/S... but you should sell coins first Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

PS: I am ready to sell at 6-9 sat but it is not possible = no happy buyer and no happy seller (me) = elya makes people unhappy Tongue Tongue Tongue (it is a joke)
Don't be a dumper and Elya will make you happy) 10 satoshi is great idea!

There are only 2 transactions on exchange for today ..... for ... 0.00027969 (around 2 USD)  Grin Grin Grin

Buy   0.00000010   1796.90000000   0.00017969   29.03.18 05:31:52
Buy   0.00000010   1000.00000000   0.00010000   29.03.18 03:53:39

How long will it take to sell 12230000.56215730 coins    for 1.22300005 BTC?HuhHuh?
Actually trading is stuck Huh Huh Huh Huh

Is there any other idea or view on this fact? Huh


TYPE   PRICE PER ELYA   ELYA AMOUNT   BTC AMOUNT   DATE
Buy   0.00000010   3469.87000000   0.00034698   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   71789.79000000   0.00717897   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   9670.75277066   0.00096707   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   2438.13272150   0.00024381   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   8525.66000000   0.00085256   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   5179.84000000   0.00051798   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   409.99000000   0.00004099   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   125164.62361467   0.01251646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   55164.62361467   0.00551646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   35164.62361467   0.00351646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   4000.00000000   0.00040000   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   27101.24142857   0.00271012   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   2789.37223526   0.00027893   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   14183.98000000   0.00141839   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   22480.00000000   0.00224800   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   21.00000000   0.00000210   29.03.18 20:00:31
Buy   0.00000010   5712.18443143   0.00057121   29.03.18 19:56:00
Buy   0.00000010   7283.72556857   0.00072837   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   3959.62000000   0.00039596   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   999.99000000   0.00009999   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   8044.48000000   0.00080444   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:55:47
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:53:38
Buy   0.00000010   26262.00000000   0.00262620   29.03.18 19:53:10
Buy   0.00000010   17664.75556857   0.00176647   29.03.18 19:52:55
full member
Activity: 508
Merit: 101
March 29, 2018, 01:11:29 PM
Pool: http://elya.freshpool.org

Ports:
geo.elya.freshpool.org:80
geo.elya.freshpool.org:443 (SSL)
geo.elya.freshpool.org:3000
geo.elya.freshpool.org:3600
geo.elya.freshpool.org:3900


Lowered the min payout to 100 ELYA to make sure the smaller miners get paid more often.

It is still on 500, please lower it to 100, like stated above.
Thanks Smiley
newbie
Activity: 103
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I hope they will make fork soon and change to new cryptonight algo and decrease block rewards instead of this price limit..
I hope they will make fork soon and change to new cryptonight algo and decrease block rewards instead of this price limit..

Are you serious? it will change nothing except new "safe" price limit)) I see only one aim of this 10 sat limit - to force trustful people to buy the coin at high price or transfer 29USD or other coins.
I hope they will make fork soon and change to new cryptonight algo and decrease block rewards instead of this price limit..

Are you serious? it will change nothing except new "safe" price limit)) I see only one aim of this 10 sat limit - to force trustful people to buy the coin at high price or transfer 29USD or other coins.
10 satoshi is GREAT IDEEA! Im tired of ppl who undercut you for 1 satoshi and drop the price of the coins. Newbies are thouse who sell 1 satoshi below your order no matter if that brings them nothing or not...Good job Developers! Hope other coins do the same. Also, i see ppl comment about developers sells Elya coins at 7 satoshi, where? I look into orders and sell orders are only on 10...so this is manipulation from brainless desperate that they cant undercut you anymore...

The ultimate team with the idea!!



ELYA to the mooon !


Thank you for this comment. Actually the idea of minimum price comes from the community. We discussed it and approved it. All remaining sell orders at 6, 7, 8, 9 sat were taken by discord and telegram group orders at 10sat.
Next targets will soon be reached for the benefit of everyone.
Of course the team is holding all coins and our direction is HODL to the moon.
I did not answer here before because I was answering telegram and discord. We will now hire a community management director so that I can answer also on bitcointalk.
As you pointed out Elya is not another project without content : we are operating since 2009 and providing useful service that you can now pay with elya coin and other cryptos.
You can communicate globally and pay globally with Elya : this is the unique coin offering you this service.


Of course Elya to the moon ! No dev, no team member, no friend nor family has and will ever sell a coin before moon.
Selling at 7 sat for team members and dev is totally irrelevant and complete non sense. No such price would ever suite the team and devs of course. Our recommendation is HODL
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 11:49:05 AM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

Colegue C421, why You call a liar someone who express his own opinion? Do You have maybe some additional information about this? Share them, please. Maybe We do not see it.
What strategy developers plan to use to motivate the buyers to pay 10 satoshies per coin? Probably they have some ideas how to start trading.
Unfortunately, now there is almost no trading at all.
We all want higher prices for Elya, but how much are buyers ready to pay?
  
He is lying about a scam. Based on his own opinion without proof. Stocks.exchange work fine. Mining work fine. I guess there would be an opportunity he would require a sale on 0.000000001. I think he is just dumper from Nicehash. IMHO.

I see several week points:
1) Difficulty algo - it reacts too slowly for hashrate changes - most of the coins use more progressive approach.
2) "I think he is just dumper from Nicehash" - why you are so negative?? dumper just for opportinity to sell coins on exchange?Huh? from Nicehash... Maybe devs made a mistake with point 1) which allows to grab a lot of coins with cloud mining and after it small miners pays a bill??? who is guilty for it???)))
 
newbie
Activity: 103
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 11:38:17 AM
Elya at 10 sat : Last orders at 6, 7, 8 ,9 sat were taken by members of discord community yesterday evening!
Congratulations.
Mac wallet will soon be released.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 10:41:34 AM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

Colegue C421, why You call a liar someone who express his own opinion? Do You have maybe some additional information about this? Share them, please. Maybe We do not see it.
What strategy developers plan to use to motivate the buyers to pay 10 satoshies per coin? Probably they have some ideas how to start trading.
Unfortunately, now there is almost no trading at all.
We all want higher prices for Elya, but how much are buyers ready to pay?
 
He is lying about a scam. Based on his own opinion without proof. Stocks.exchange work fine. Mining work fine. I guess there would be an opportunity he would require a sale on 0.000000001. I think he is just dumper from Nicehash. IMHO.
newbie
Activity: 249
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 09:45:45 AM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

I will take several weeks/days to find buyer at 10 sat (if any) Tongue Tongue Tongue
Current mining "profit" is 3.13 USD/day per 1KH/S... but you should sell coins first Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

PS: I am ready to sell at 6-9 sat but it is not possible = no happy buyer and no happy seller (me) = elya makes people unhappy Tongue Tongue Tongue (it is a joke)
Don't be a dumper and Elya will make you happy) 10 satoshi is great idea!

There are only 2 transactions on exchange for today ..... for ... 0.00027969 (around 2 USD)  Grin Grin Grin

Buy   0.00000010   1796.90000000   0.00017969   29.03.18 05:31:52
Buy   0.00000010   1000.00000000   0.00010000   29.03.18 03:53:39

How long will it take to sell 12230000.56215730 coins    for 1.22300005 BTC?HuhHuh?
Actually trading is struck Huh Huh Huh Huh

Is there any other idea or view on this fact? Huh
exactly this is a stupid idea the devs only did this so they could sell their coins at a price they wanted before anybody else as soon as the devs are done selling their coins I'm sure they'll lower down the minimum cell and the price will drop all the way down to 1-2 satoshi's because again the market sets the price not the developer not the exchange I've never heard of such bulshit before.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 29, 2018, 09:10:20 AM
Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

I will take several weeks/days to find buyer at 10 sat (if any) Tongue Tongue Tongue
Current mining "profit" is 3.13 USD/day per 1KH/S... but you should sell coins first Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

PS: I am ready to sell at 6-9 sat but it is not possible = no happy buyer and no happy seller (me) = elya makes people unhappy Tongue Tongue Tongue (it is a joke)
Don't be a dumper and Elya will make you happy) 10 satoshi is great idea!

There are only 2 transactions on exchange for today ..... for ... 0.00027969 (around 2 USD)  Grin Grin Grin

Buy   0.00000010   1796.90000000   0.00017969   29.03.18 05:31:52
Buy   0.00000010   1000.00000000   0.00010000   29.03.18 03:53:39

How long will it take to sell 12230000.56215730 coins    for 1.22300005 BTC?HuhHuh?
Actually trading is stuck Huh Huh Huh Huh

Is there any other idea or view on this fact? Huh
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