Topic: end of all signature campaigns - page 2. (Read 1909 times)

I think it will not end because this forum is a great factor to many companies on how it advertised their products and it is really a big influencer in the marketing world. If signature campaign would end I know many would be upset if its happen because some only rely to that and not only signature campaign but also the bounty campaign here in forum, I think many would leave for good but forum I think will still be a place for crypto enthusiastic people and would never end, because knowledge about how to earn crypto to others will also be a factor to gain some BTC again.

in this case on the project will remain true connoisseurs of this trend, but still the site as a place for discussion of projects and technical issues will live on

Soon after joining this forum I became aware of the signature campaigns spamming problem in it as it can be seen in a post I opened: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poor-english-careless-writing-ranks-and-signature-campaigns-2111476

But after a bit longer in the forum I’ve come to realize that there is a kind of obsession with quality posts that I haven’t seen in other forums.

What makes a forum important is not quality posting but the amount of crap in it.

Crappy posting and traffic go hand in hand, and in the internet world you are nobody if you don’t generate traffic.

A forum is not an Encyclopedia, it is part of the entertainment industry. It is not a place where people go to just get information, it is a place where people exchange opinions.

So, what I’ve seen is people defending that this should be a place for only quality posts but what that would mean if it was done in hard mode is that some entire sections of the forum would have to be deleted and most posts closed for new replies after the first page.

What is normal is that the more specific and technical a section is, the less traffic and spam it has. That is what happens in all forums I’ve seen.
Most forums have quite a lot of trash in the General section or equivalent, like Bitcoin Discussion in this forum, although people do not get paid for writing. Usually those sections account for most of traffic and are what make forum important but they are full of low-quality opinionated replies.

In my view, quality should not matter as much in sections like “Bitcoin Discussion” as in more technical ones like “Mining” or “Development and Technical Discussion”.

Although, as I have said in other posts on this subject, I favor measures to reduce spamming and I already report people and have taken other personal measures, like not replying to most newbie (silly) posts.

If signature campaigns ended I would still come to the forum although there would be less traffic and less crap, and I would also earn bitcoins in another way, or maybe I would even buy them.

I think Bitcoin will never be left behind as it is the main Bitcoin forum and is the place to exchange information and exchange between Bitcoiners. Besides, I believe the signature campaigns will continue because it aims to introduce and promote campaigns as well as new currencies. So, I think that's your mistake

It doesn't cost anything to pre-mine a crapcoin and pay unlimited users in it. You don't even have to monitor participants; just accept unlimited users (including newbies - because why the hell not?) who will post any old crap without consequence. Why would anyone purchase ad slots when you can just do this? That's the problem here. Signature campaigns clearly work. I wouldn't even be aware of 99% of shitcoin ICOs if it wasn't for the tribes of shitposters spamming nonsense everywhere whereas I barely notice the one forum ad.

I disagree. The cost of getting a bunch of Hero/Sr signatures plastered all over the Bitcoin forum with a bunch of shitposters who will spam is about .0225 per person per week (they will post a lot for such an amount). In equivalence of the cheapest ad spot that was auctioned (1.2 BTC), 53 participants can participate in this campaign. 53 participants at 30 posts a week means that you'll see 1590 posts across the forum, most likely in the crappiest but high-density viewing spots.

We'll be looking at Bitcoin Discussion, Economics [Speculation], Gambling [+ discussion], Altcoin sections. Since shitposters will continue to litter amongst one another they will also continue to participate in these places and you'll see that demographic exposed to your ads as well.

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It seems more efficient to simply create shitty campaigns and hire low-brow participants to spread your product in their waste.

You could probably even get by with .015 pp / week, making it 80 participants for the same price as the cheapest slot.

There is no such 'go-to-place'.You can follow dedicated posters on bitcointalk as well.Like I personally love checking out Danny's,Rico's previous posts as they're informative .Bit of a work but if you know the right people,forum could be a nice place to learn.Having said that,selective bloggers on Medium also give nice insights on latest crypto stuff and such.

Any advice on other forums to read, or where legit posters have gone?  I know anonymint is on Steemit and github, Twitter is dece, some subreddits are good, also Telegram/Slack.

So? That's a good thing.

No. Stop spamming your two line bullish everywhere.

That user is a spammer; therefore, why would it see anything wrong when they're doing the same thing?

In a few years? You're stuck in the past. This has been going on for quite some time already. The majority of legitimate posters have left. Not everyone has a high level of tolerance, and eventually you just want to give up due to theymoses complete lack of action.

Really?  You see nothing wrong with completing filling the forum with shit posts by posters that are paid to shill a coin? 

In a few years people are going to wonder where all the legitimate posters went because 99% of the posts will just be shit posts that add no value by people trying to reach their 30 posts a week so they can pocket a few bucks. 

Signature campaigns is a very useful marketing strategy to promote new sites, and forums are the best place to get a lot of information on the topics you are interested about because there will be a lot of helpful users around the forum assisting you on the problem you might be facing in the crypto-currencies world. So I would say if this forum exists, I don't see any particular reason to stop all signature campaign here.

What will happen? Shitposters like you and me will disapear and will be look like this after they stop all the signature campaigns or bounty campaigns. we will be collecting trash and garbage just to make money.

I think until the advertiser's communication fails, the campaign will end. If the campaign ends then you will do another campaign or use a different bitcoin to earn more money and forums will share experiences for newbie 

I'm just new here, now I feel better because I was curious too if ever it's possible if signature campaigns will end. My brother has been joining signature campaigns for years now, and he already earned a lot because of it.

I think it will affect the promotion strategy of the new businesses related to the cryptos, we have seen in the past that many new service providers are running the signature campaigns to promote their business.

Not necessarily. The person running the account can just continue to do so off the forum, where the trust rating of the account is no longer relevant.

The only way signature campaign will stop is if this forum is closed or banned from operations, cause other crypto forums I have come across does not support or have any signature campaign activities.

Regulate signatures? better to tag anyone hiring shitposters, problem solved.

It's not that difficult and several solutions have already been suggested but met with complete silence. The easiest one to enforce would be if you start a signature campaign here and it's clear that you're just accepting hundreds to unlimited users without monitoring the quality of the content then you get a warning to clean your campaign up within a week and if you don't your account is banned, your thread(s) trashed and any user still carrying their signature will have it forcibly removed. This is what was meant to happen with the signature campaign guidelines but they're pointless when theymos won't enforce them. Signatures also need to be removed from rank/activity somehow to stop the ludicrous amounts of account farming that is going on and people literally having hundreds of accounts to milk signature campaigns dry. As long as you can easily join the dozens of crapcoin campaigns that pop up every month with hundreds of accounts you've easily farmed by shitposting then nothing is going to change and the content of the forum is just going to get worse daily because the more people realise they can get away with it.


And it could be doing even better if signature campaigns were banned and replaced with forum adverts. The forum would also then be readable, you know, how it actually should be. And buying a forum advert isn't better. There's only one of them, they're barely noticeable, and they're expensive in comparison to if you run a crapcoin campaign and pay your users in your pre-mined shitcoin so you're literally getting free advertising to have your advert plastered all over the forum by shitposters.

If we were to be honest here, we would say that literally almost nothing is being done from the administration. Hilariousandco is alone, and badly in need of backup. Theymos still refuses to appoint a secondary global moderator. Policies are not being changed. Of course it is *hard to address* when you're doing nothing.

It most certainly is not. Minus a small group of people familiar with technical, this place would easily hit a top ranking on a list of the worst communities of the internet when it comes to the quality of content. The average IQ, based off of responses, is probably <90.

You're an idiot.