Topic: [ENDED: Charity Auction - yahoo62278] Bitcoin Romania Card - 100 RON in BTC (Read 1603 times)

Shame on me for not fulfilling my initial statement. Since ChiBitCTy got an answer to his questions, it is time for me to lock this thread. Speedy recovery yahoo!

Thank you guys for the thorough explanations!

Ohhh I see... Now, seeing your posts, I slightly remember the incident. Well in our case, this card is not loaded with anything. The scratch area has a code which can be used on BitcoinRomania's platform for redeeming 100 RON in your account. But, as I said in other previous posts, this implies creating an account there and that implies KYC -- and I don't recommend anybody to go through KYC. The card is very nice as it is and its value is certainly not the 100 RON (~20 EUR) code written on it. The value is given by the rarity of this card and by the fact that it's a nice collectible item

Now I actually don't know until when this code can be used. I asked them last year about the code validity and they said it won't expire, although we were in 2022 and on the back of the card is written September 2021. Maybe at some point in time the code won't be usable anymore. But I can't say anything precisely on this matter, as I can not foresee the future

Thank you for the heads up. I've since corrected my post.

I believe that @ChiBitCTy is referring to the Prypto scam[1][2] that took place around 2019 since it seems that he also was affected by it[3]. Just the idea of having to rely on a website to redeem the card makes me shiver but after reading that the card had an expiry date of 5 years[4] I was more in awe. How can an item that for sure would get the attention of collectible enthusiastic have such a low expiry date? Better yet, why in the world would it have an expiry date since the product itself (bitcoin) doesn't expire and no mention of the expire date in the card?

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[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/prypto-scam-5166558
[2]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-get-custom-prypto-scratch-cards-1btc-coinscompanysbrands-585791
[3]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51899438
[4]https://web.archive.org/web/20150209112109/http://getprypto.com/faqs-page/

This is correct. I received 5 such cards from BitcoinRomania but I never heard anybody having such cards besides me. They must offer them only for special clients, for friends or for promoters or something like that. I received those cards from them (together with a shirt and a 0.001 loaded BTC card) after I wrote a very nice topic about them in Romanian board. I offered one of these cards as a sponsored prize for a giveaway organized by 1miau (and that card is already at the winner). I offered a second one as a sponsored prize for another giveaway organized also by 1miau. This card was won by RickDeckard but, eventually, he decided to auction it for helping yahoo62278. I am still in the possession of 3 more cards.

So, to answer your question, they are rare. I never seen any other such card issued by BitcoinRomania and, if they issued more, they are certainly not for regular public access.

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I confirm this and I stated here what Rick said. However, the card was not issued by a "Bank", but by BitcoinRomania, which is biggest Romanian crypto exchange.

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It is biggest crypto exchange from Romania


There are more than 99% that nobody else from this forum to have such card, excepting you, me and the other winner from the giveaway organized by 1miau 


It is, certainly, a rare collectible!


I guess that was a generic message... When I asked them about the expiration date they said that the codes associated with the card can be still used, although 2021 passed for a while now.


I am not sure about what bitcoin-scratch cards you talk about

I think @GazetaBitcoin is able to further clarify this question further, but I do believe he still has some more in his possession. See his reply[1] whenever MoparMiningLLC asked about buying a card also for his collection.
The translation was made by Gazeta himself and you can check it out on the first page of this thread[2]:
Gazeta also inquired the Bank cryptocurrency service that issued this card - BitcoinRomania - and the reply was that the code is still valid (even after surpassing the previous September 2021 date on the back of it).

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[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61830399
[2]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61725755

Before you close up the thread, few questions. Is this a big exchange in Romania? Does this exchange offer cards like this very often, was it a one time thing ..anyone know? Being that we are collectibles nerds here, this kind of thing appeals to all of us..so just curious for the lot of us collectors..

Also, might someone be willing to transcribe what the back of the card says? I guess I could type it in to google translate, but any time I do that with Spanish..my friends who are fluent say it sucks lol.

Again, much thanks to all. This is the first time I think this card has shown it’s face in collectibles, and alway love rare stuff!

Edit: any ideas why they would have put an expiration date on this? I at least appreciate they did this, unlike the scam that was bitcoin scratch-cards.

Wow, very nice to hear such positive news from you and I hope it'll be an interesting enrichment for your collection.

Looks like our safe shipping has been a big success after all.

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It's too expensive, no one even dares to give a number about the price. 

It's great to hear that the card is finally on your possession ChiBitCTy, thank you so much for the feedback. I do hope that you enjoy being able to add one more item to your collection while at the same taking part in this charity event. Kudos to you!


And thank you @GazetaBitcoin for providing such a great service as the official escrow of the event. I'm sure this is one of the first of many that you'll have the chance to take part into! Do let us know the cost of shipping an elephant if you ever had the chance to find out .

PS: I'll leave the thread open until Friday so that anyone is free to comment on it. Afterwards I'll lock it indefinitely.

I am very glad to hear that, Chi! Now I am relieved, knowing that the card arrived at destination.

Card was received yesterday.  Thankfully they delivered this instead of losing it like they did the other package supposed to be in my PO Box.

Thank you guys for this, everyone...really appreciated.  A cool part of my crypto card collection!

Safe shipping is always a good option and by doing so, we'll ensure that ChiBitCTy will receive your card for sure and undamaged. 
Because you know, "fragile". 


Many thanks for sharing our original post office document. It's great, what we can get from 7 USD in Romania.
I believe, we should store it in a safe place and keep it as a commemoration.

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Yes, turned out that our giveaway has been a very succesful where many Bitcointalk members benefitted.
I also still need to confirm that icopress has won the 2nd place, which I'll do later. 

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Feel free to ask for it. I'm sure we'll get a very interesting answer. 
But I don't know if any Romanian Post officer really knows about it because in Romania, there are only very few elephants.

I confirm receiving the 0.35 mBTC and I also want to let all involved parties know that the card was shipped today to Chi using safest option presented by Romanian Post. Thank you, 1miau, for that!

Please find below the receipt I received from Romanian Post:



I also informed Chi about the shipping and I kindly asked him to make a post here once here receives the card (I hope this will happen before of current month).

Thank you, 1miau, for organizing the giveaway for my couch, where RickDeckard won your prize in BTC and the card offered by me; thank you, RickDeckard, for your big heart which determined you to make an auction for helping yahoo62278, offering this nice card as prize; thank you, PowerGlove, for participating inside the auction, for offering greatest bid and for having also a big heart, offering the card you won to someone else; thank you, ChitBitCTY for accepting the prize! (You may find here the rest of the way the card had to go until finally finding its winner )

It's really amazing to see what a long way this card made and, in the end, yahoo62278 could be helped!

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At our next giveaway / raffle I will try to ask a Romanian Post officer the price of shipping an elephant inside a simple envelope. You know, just to have the information

After discussions via PM, I have agreed to a suggestion from GazetaBitcoin to select a safe shipping option. Price is 6.12 EUR and I've decided to send GazetaBitcoin an equivalent of 7 USD to cover expenses and effort, which is 0.35 mBTC.
Transaction is sent: https://blockchair.com/search?q=2c1024ac2ff23e16543fcd13f2c580972b943e772515d4c2951247d323ec7ea0
It could take some time to get confirmed because currently, the Mempool is very busy...
I'm sure GazetaBitcoin is going to send it out very soon. 


Yes, it's doubtful. 

Thank you for accepting the prize ChiBitCTy! Do let us know when you get it please (do take precautions as it also may be shipped an elephant as well ).

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Once again, thank you for your support as the official escrow for this event Gazeta! Also thank you 1miau for supporting the shipping costs outside EU! If the shipping costs comes down to something big (considering that perhaps a tracking option is needed due to the distance that it will travel), do not hesitate to say and I'll gladly share the expenses with you!

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Looking forward to see the card on your side ChiBitCTy!

Yay! I am glad we are on the same page here I already tried today to find the prices, but I was unlucky. I was at the Post Office but it was closed. Tomorrow is closed as well... I will go again on Monday and I will be able to provide you the price options then. If we are lucky, by the end of month ChiBitCTy will receive the prize.

Except if it's more than 100$ but as I've already said a few weeks ago:


Looooooool! Lucky for you, it's not an elephant =))) (Even if it were, I don't know if I was able to ship it. Nor with Romanian Post, anyway. I also don't know if it could fit inside the envelope )

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Danke, 1miau!

I'm also in favor of selecting a safe option and I'll pay for whatever you decide to select for sending it to ChiBitCTy. 
Except if it's more than 100$ but as I've already said a few weeks ago:


It's not an Elephant, isn't it? 

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I've sent you some Merit for your effort. 

Looking forward to receiving the card and I am of course going to donate to yahoo (best wishes for a speedy recovery).

Thanks to you two and powerglove

Cheers

Yes, Sir! (Indian accent )


That would be 2BTC, Sir (Same Indian accent )

Nah, disregard that =))) Jokes aside, I intend to go tomorrow at the Post Office and ask about all possibilities to ship the card. I would basically avoid sending it in a simple envelope, as I did in giammangiato's case. I think it's too risky... Besides, he was from Italy, thus chances to have the simple envelope lost in translation were lower compared to sending a simple envelope over the ocean. I would rather ask for the price of (1) sending the envelope as a recommended letter (this type of letters / envelopes are more secure, as far as I know) and (2) also use an AWB code for tracking. These 2 options will not raise too much the overall price of the shipping and they will make it more secure. I will also ask for the price of sending a simple envelope and I will present you all possibilities.


Thank you, 1miau! Much appreciated!

Once again, congrats to the winners, many thanks to RickDeckard and deep wishes of good health for yahoo62278!

Congrats for winning here, @PowerGlove!
6 mBTC have been a very generous bid and it's really a great gesture to help yahoo62278.  

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Since our card will be shipped from Romania to a country outside of EU, I'll pay shipping fees of course as promised previously.
@GazetaBitcoin, please let me know how much shipping will cost and I'll refund your expenses by sending you the equivalent in BTC to your address.

Congrats for winning @ChiBitCTy as well!  

Many thanks @everyone for your bids here and also many thanks @RickDeckard for donating his price from our giveaway.  

May this small aid help you well, dear yahoo62278! May you be well! And may everybody's prayers for you be listened thus your health situation will be better and better!

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Sadly, no. There is no physical RON Coin. However, there is a RON Coin (RONC) which can be bought from BitcoinRomania and it's a stable coin, having a 1:1 value with Romanian national currency (RON). Official website of developers is https://roncoin.to/en and it allows you to create a wallet without making an account. However, you'll have to pass through KYC in order to make an account to BitcoinRomania and buy it from there. OTherwise, if you know anybody holding RONC, you can transact with that person using your KYC-less wallet. However, I believe you are interested in a physical item, for your collection.

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MoparMiningLLC, this is your lucky day This is because I have a few more such cards and, if you want, we can further discuss this through PM. I was (am) also willing to launch a free raffle at some point in time, with the prize being a card like this.

I would be interested in purchasing one of these cards - not for redemption - but just to add to my collection - I am guessing it has to be someone local there? would someone be willing to purchase one for me and send it to me? I will of course pay in BTC

Does a physical Ron Coin/round exist? I'd be interested if one exist.

There's nothing wrong being a privacy nut, I'm also one of them! With that in mind I suppose that the highest bid is the one from ChiBitCTy[1] at .0018 BTC, congratulations!
@ChiBitCTy: Could you please get in contact with GazetaBitcoin so that he knows where to send the card?

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[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61804344

Funds confirmed, I would say congrats on winning but you are passing the prize to the runner up. I like seeing the generosity to myself and others in the community. Very classy man.

Thanks to you, Gazeta, and Rick.

@RickDeckard: Thanks for setting this up (it was a very kind thing to do), and for offering the prize! I participated only to share some sats, so it won't be necessary to ship anything. I'm too much of a privacy nut to give out a shipping address anyway.

Thanks also to @GazetaBitcoin and @1miau for being willing to handle shipping.

Maybe the card should go to the runner-up?

Congratulations @PowerGlove! I had no idea that this charity auction could reach the value that it did, so I'm glad that we were able to gather this amount to help yahoo expenses(and I'm sure he would appreciate any amount, as he has done in the past.).

Could you please send a message to @GazetaBitcoin with your details so that he can take care of shipping the item to you? One last request: When you receive the item could you please confirm that you've received it in this thread so that I can officially close this auction?

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Guess we replied almost at the same time... Thank you for the words and for being the official escrow of this auction

Hooray!

Congrats, PowerGlove and my sincere appreciations for your high bid and also for your proposal of making the prize even greater! Nobody made a greater bid, yet yours is by far greater than any expectiations I, personally, had (probably RickDeckard too). And I am sure that yahoo62238 will find good use for this help.

Thank you also RickDeckard for your generosity in offering your prize -- the card -- as a prize for this humanitarian auction. You have all my respect for all you do inside the forum!

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That being said, PowerGlove please contact me by PM and let me know where to ship your card

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Paid (0b9125486a6a091ec6774100915ec0a043028dfa1b77a066217f127704137bc4).

@yahoo62278: I know it's not much money (all things considered), but I hope it helps a little bit, and I hope that you're on the mend, with the worst behind you.

Thank you for your offer! Sadly the highest bid at the moment sits at 6mBTC so if you're interested in bidding, you'll need to make an increment of 0.1 mBTC considering PowerGlove bid...

.0018BTC

BUMP: Almost 4(ish) more days to go! Will we find a user that will propose a higher bid than the one provided by PowerGlove (and his generous offer) ? 

Woah, this is reaching heights that I wasn't expecting to ! Thank you so much for the matching donation @PowerGlove! I'll update the thread accordingly! Really looking forward to see what happens next!
I've reached out to yahoo to ask for this. I'll update with the information I'll receive from him. Thank you for the feedback! EDIT: yahoo has replied to my PM and I've posted the address in the OP.

I think a good way to encourage bigger bids (and therefore, help yahoo) is for me to spend a little more than I wanted to, and make the following offer: I'll match the winning bid (unless it's my own) up to the value of 8 mBTC (e.g. if the winning bid is 6.1 mBTC, then I'll send yahoo an additional 6.1 mBTC).

Hopefully, giving other people double the spending power will attract some generous types.

P.S. Just a reminder to update the OP with a settlement address before the auction closes (yahoo's address is no longer in the referenced topic).

Yes. 

Please, don't do that, unless you know that the recipient has enough space to hold such elephant, and proper facilities to care for it too..   

if this auction not canceled, i will pay for my bid, thanksss

You are right, I will pay shipping fees if someone wins our action who's from a country which is a non-EU country (like USA / Canada / United Kingdom / Nigeria / Japan....whatever country Bitcointalk members are from).
United Kingdom would be likely a bit more as well since UK has left EU but I'm sure we'll find a solution and as original giveaway owner, I will pay shipping fees for winners of non-EU countries.

I don't know your final shipping costs but I believe it's not too much and won't make me bankrupt. 
It's just a small card, so shouldn't be much of an issue. 
We are not shipping an Elephant. 

And, as a small addition, participants also trust yahoo62278, and this is the main reason for which they participate at this auction. After all, I am sure that the card itself is not really something extraordinary, excepting the fact that you can redeem 20 euros with it -- which, anyway, is not something extraordinary at all. Unless he is a collectible fanatic, I believe that any participant is only trying to help yahoo62278 -- and this is something touching.

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PowerGlove, that's really something, man! God bless you!

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As you probably saw yourself by now, topic is locked, but this is not a loss anyway. Excepting that, I was wondering if you think it's a good idea to post in OP (at its bottom, eventually) the bids made so far, thus they are visible for anybody else interested? This topic tends to contain also posts different from just bidding and it may be easier to see what last bid is.

I am also curious to see if someone else will bid more than PowerGlove. And I really hope so, for yahoo2278's sake...

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Later edit: I just observed that:


I confirm, I told RickDeckard that I'll pay for the shipping, he insisted he'll do it; then I said it'll probably cost me ~5$ to do it, but if I let him do it I will charge him with 1000$, as I can't charge myself, lol. Having these two options in balance, he agreed with my proposal =)))

However, from what I understand from 1miau, I believe he saw my earlier post when I said I will pay the shipping and he made only a complementary addition when he said that he is willing to pay the shipping if the winner is from outside Europe.

I think you will no longer be able to make explanations in this mentioned topic[2], since it has already been closed. 

But you don't have to give any explanation. As I said and very well, you give the money to whoever you want, it's your entire responsibility. And the participants in this auction only participate because they want to. Know the prize they will receive and where the money will go - trusting you.

Everyone is responsible for their actions, and that's why we don't have to judge them just because we don't agree.

I haven't received a message to stop this charity auction from any mod (at least so far). I may be wrong on the reasons but I think that this is probably due to the fact that this is, as theymos has pointed out and other established users, because the forum is meant to be as free as possible[1]. In this particular case I am free to choose if I end up donating my prize to whenever cause that I see fit, independent of the causes behind it. If the campaign than I'm donating to ends up being a scam then I'm the only responsible to have being tricked into taking part in it and I should learn from my mistakes. I'm not saying that it's a scam (else I wouldn't feel compelled to donate to it) and I have my reasons to support it, but I would like to expose my arguments in the discussion in the right thread[2] latter in the day.

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Woah, that's an incredible massive bump to the auction PowerGlove, thank you so much!

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[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40849533
[2]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5439357

There's a thread in Meta where it's being discussed. (I see you've just posted in it, but maybe others will find the discussion there interesting.)

Anyway, I'm guessing you have one monstrous bill heading your way, so I'll spare what I can and raise the bid to 6 mBTC. Hope things get better for you!

I was not asked to remove it from my profile, I did that on my own. Just asked to remove it from the thread. TBH I don't know the reason why I was asked anything, but it's not a battle worth fighting.

We are derailing the this thread discussing it. Sorry Rick.

what nonsense is this?
I have my BTC address on my profile page, am I doing something wrong?
if it's not a rule violation, it would be good to hear an explanation from mods of the exact reason for the request to remove the address.

Better days will come, partner!
Never mind the confusion some may cause. What matters is that you feel good. Get well soon!

Fair enough, I was not told I was breaking rules just asked to remove addresses. I don't want to see anyone catch any hell over me is all.

Although I do not know what rules may be broken, I believe it's possible that only you broke those rules, not RickDeckard too, unless he was contacted as well by hilariousandco. I think he can do whatever he wants with the money earned -- which includes sending them to you, although you do not show anymore a visible address for donations... Does this make sense?

There were many charity auctions in the past and none was stopped (although some were scam) for breaking any rule... Furthermore, there are also two more similar auctions active right now - [Auction]CYPHER HODL-SATODIME CARD CUSTOM ARTWORKS-proceeds goto coldkey victims, ⏩⏩[AUCTION LIST] Auction for ColdKey victims of the apparent theft⏪⏪. This makes be believe that such auctions are following the rules.

It's up to RickDeckard in the end but I think he should wait to see if he is contacted for cancelling the auction prior simply cancelling it...

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You guys might consider cancelling this auction. I was sent a pm by a mod asking me to remove my donation addresses, I assume asking is against the rules and I do not want anyone getting into trouble for me.

The gesture was very kind and i'm sorry if anyone catches any shit over this. I don't think you will FYI.

Thank you for the quick feedback. Just to clear some doubts in the future, I've updated the countdown with a newer one that is more clear to read.

I tried Tor browser from different locations, and it shows different countdowns. It looks like it uses the browser's location and bases the remaining time on the local time there.

Thank you for the donation and thank you so much for the offer regarding shipping fees outside EU! Just a clarification: Is it regarding customs outside EU or actually shipping fees? I also offered myself to pay for shipping fees that @GazetaBitcoin will incur, but he offered a counter deal that I couldn't agree and he ended up supporting them as well... Am I right @GazetaBitcoin? 
Sorry for my late reply but meanwhile I saw that LoyceV and GazetaBitcoin both clarified the deal - I'm totally aware that I'm "nobody" regarding being trusthworthy to make any kind of deal in the forum considering my lack of feedback/trust, but if there's anyone in the forum that I have fully confidence without any questioning is, without a doubt, GazetaBitcoin. This is mostly due to his behavior and his actions throughout is presence on here and after several discussions that we've had in the past. But then again, this is my opinion which may differ from others (including the highest bidder). If needed, I may transfer an amount equal to the highest bid to an escrow until he/she receives the item in a worst case scenario.
Uhm that's odd. I've just opened the countdown and it currently shows London Time[1], could anyone else provide feedback? I'll search for other services more reliable in case this is more than an isolated issue. As for your question - The auction end time is 26th February @ 21:00 PM (GMT).

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Thank you for all the bids so far guys! Being my first, it's really rewarding to see such high activity in the first day The sky is the limit!

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[1]https://i.vgy.me/i2U7ah.png

@RickDeckard could you please confirm the auction end time?

Is it "26th February @ 21:00 PM (GMT)" -as stated in the OP-
OR
21:00 PM EEST(aka GMT+2 / Romania time) -as shown in the countdown timer link-?

Thank you for the confirmation

I confirm this. That's right, just as Rick Deckard stated. I am holding the card in escrow until a winner is chosen and I will ship it afterward to the winner. I hope this helps. Of course, this is valid as long as you consider me trustworthy for acting as escrow. In any case, I can ensure you that this auction is really for a honorable cause and OP is a good man.

See:

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I can see that you are doing something good and have a link to the cause's thread, but have zero feedback/trust regarding payment/funds or anything else for that matter....

I feel like funds should be sent after winner receives item or a trusted escrow should be used

1.5mBTC   

Many thanks @RickDeckard for your generous donation in support of yahoo62278! 
Regarding shipping fees if a non EU citizen wins: as organizer from our giveaway, I would pay shipping fees!

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You might get some more money from our giveaway end of February because it's not sure yet, which prize I've won but I would gladly support you as well. 

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Have a good and fair auction @everyone! 

Seen I had some notifications on telegram but was at my doctors appointments and couldn't reply before now. Very much appreciated @all involved. You never expect an online community to show a person so much respect to a basically anonymous person. Especially towards myself who is not always the nicest guy. You guys are a class act for doing this. The amount raised makes no difference, the gesture speaks volumes.

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