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Topic: [ENDED] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ - page 75. (Read 303553 times)

legendary
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To all those who have been in the campaign since the beginning, congratulations on 150 weeks who are behind them - and I wish everyone at least that many successful weeks Wink

Woah, congrats! I envy you guys  Smiley
And congrats Chipmixer, since this most probably also means good profitability for such a long time!
legendary
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To all those who have been in the campaign since the beginning, congratulations on 150 weeks who are behind them - and I wish everyone at least that many successful weeks Wink
Are TryNinja and BitMaxz the only participants who are here from the very beginning of the campaign?

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A quick glance at the first week on the spreadsheet leads me to believe you are correct.

I joined @ week 10... DarkStar_ and Chipmixer never missed a single payment (unanounced), i'm still thrilled to be a member of the team... I already used 3 different payment addresses (a p2pkh, an embedded segwit and now a native segwit) so i have no clue as to how much drinks they've bought me for doing something i like to do...

Thanks guys, it's really appreciated
hero member
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To all those who have been in the campaign since the beginning, congratulations on 150 weeks who are behind them - and I wish everyone at least that many successful weeks Wink
Are TryNinja and BitMaxz the only participants who are here from the very beginning of the campaign? I can't see anymore accepted application from the first week. Congrats guys. I believe it's an honor to work with such a campaign & ChipMixer is happy too to have you on the board.
I had the opportunity to apply here although I knew that I had no chance. Nevertheless, I really liked how Darkstar_ is running the campaign. No one is forced to make X amount of posts nor to have X amount of characters on each post. That's how all the other campaigns must be run; like how a forum participants take participate in the discussion. Forcing X amount of posts would never bring good quality regardless of how low amount of posts are required.
Congrats every participants of Chipmixer and thanks to Darkstar_ for managing the campaign promptly.

Edit- Whoop!! It's my 1000th post here!
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legendary
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To all those who have been in the campaign since the beginning, congratulations on 150 weeks who are behind them - and I wish everyone at least that many successful weeks Wink

Damn. Time sure does fly so fast, and it's surely going to feel like time is gonna fly a lot faster due to most of the world being in a lockdown.

Long live ©hipMixer. Stay safe bois.
legendary
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To all those who have been in the campaign since the beginning, congratulations on 150 weeks who are behind them - and I wish everyone at least that many successful weeks Wink
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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Username: Julien_Olynpic
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I will wear the signature once accepted. Thanks
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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I correct you with what I think it's fair (not towards you, but to any campaign poster):


[1] All managers ask (or should ask) for "constructive posts". What are "constructive posts"? How can we define constructive posts? Should they be defined as "replies on the subject, no matter their length" (including one liners)? Or should they be considered constructive only if they meet a minimum character length? I saw that some managers accept small posts as being valid for their campaigns, while others don't. No matter if the posts are on subject and usefull; they just deny them. We need a consensus here.


To start, constructive posts are determined by the manager of the campaign. Their decision is their decision and all managers do not think the same. That's like asking all DT members to share the same opinion or all forum mods to do their jobs the same way. It's just not gonna happen. If you don't like a managers rules, leave the campaign and go elsewhere, if you can find another campaign.

There are xxx campaigns and 100x more users looking for spots in those campaigns, so getting accepted isn't always easy. Adapt to the managers rules or don't be in a campaign.



[2] Should some boards be banned from any campaign? I saw that some managers say that posts in some sections are not accepted; other say that posts from other boards are not accepted. Can be a general rule for boards not accepted in any campaign? Example: ban all posts from Politic&Society and Off-topic boards.

Boards are banned due to the quality of posts usually found on banned boards. For example, Games&rounds, noone should be paid for claiming a few satoshis from a site by posting their username and btc address. That's just a shit post. Users can still post on boards that aren't paid, but they won't be paid for said post.

I doubt all managers will unify and only ban certain boards as a whole. Some managers think boards that I find posts unconstructive on are constructive.


[3] Should participants be accepted only if they meet a certain amount of merits in the past 1-2 months prior applying to the campaign (and also prior being accepted inside the campaign)? And another suggestion here, the merit number could be fixed for each kind of rank, but lower for low rank users and bigger for higher rank users. Currently, out of 21 signature campaigns, only 4 or 5 have a merit requirement; can such requirement be implemented for all campaigns? But I'm not talking about a trivial minimum threshold as the actual one is (5 merits); I'm talking about a serious threshold, such as 20-30 merits.

Again, this is a managers discretion issue. Some managers feel that if they make users earn merits throughout the week, then they are doing their part in getting constructive posters for the campaign.

I tried this approach once and found out that users can buy merits, so it's really kind of a waste of time. Not to mention the fact that there is no general rules on what type of post merits can be sent to. It's not always easy to see merit abuse.

A guy can be earning 20$ a week in a campaign and spending 5$ of that per week to buy merits and keep himself earning 15$ per week. It's a sacrifice but it guarantees them money.

[4] Should participants be excluded from campaigns if they don't earn a minimum amount of merits per week? Furthermore, similar to (3): could this minimum threshold be a fixed number for a low rank, a bigger number for a higher rank and so on?
Same answer as above. It's at the managers discretion. Not much users can say or do about it.

[5] Should be accepted inside any campaign only members of certain ranks (eg. minimum Senior users)? Several campaigns are oriented only to high rank users; why wouldn't be applied here a general rule to be accepted in all the campaigns only these kind of users?

This is really up to the company that's paying for the campaign. If they have a small budget weekly, then they likely want to look at hiring jr members or members vs only hiring sr or above. Users can post constructively at all ranks, even newbie, but to hire all sr member or above you need a larger weekly budget.

[6] All campaigns have a minimum and a maximum posts number per week. Could these limits be fixed for all the campaigns? Example: have a minimum of 10 posts/week and a maximum number of 25 posts/week.
This is actually something that I think all managers could get together on. Companies want their name seen as much as possible all over the forum so that they can get business driven to their site, but regular forum users want spammers to stop spamming. So if the weekly requirement is lower, in theory it should reduce the spam. No guarantees though. Some people come in for 2 days and punch out their weekly requirement and hop on to another account.

For me personally, I would like to see 15 posts weekly be the standard, but companies may not be willing to pay a decent rate for fewer posts.

[7] All managers ask that participants don't have a negative trust; what if this rule would be improved to high rank users, meaning to be required to have a positive trust in order to be accepted?

I have been accepting some users with negative trust at times. Depends on the reason for the trust. Getting positive trust can be kinda hard for some people. Getting a negative is as easy as waking up in the morning.

[8] Can there be set a common sense rule for maximum number of posts accepted per day? Example: only 5 posts per day to be taken into account. Currently, out of 21 signature campaigns, only one states clearly that it accepts maximum 7 posts per day, four state they accept maximum 8 posts per day, while 15 mention only that burst posting is not allowed, without giving any definition of burst posting. So what is "burst posting" then? In order to eliminate spam even more, can it be defined as a certain number of posts per day?

It does not matter what you set the limit to. Users still spam. Users still do not care about the forum. Users are greedy as hell. Users will log in, make their daily post cap and log out. Not caring 1 bit about where they posted or what they posted about. Not all users, but a good portion.

Look at the mess of shit that happened with yobit. I had to look at 600 profiles+ multiple times a week. I seen the same shit over and over from a good load of users. Log in, do 5 posts, log out. Rinse and repeat daily.

Now with all your concerns answered, I am going to speak my opinion on some matters concerning signature campaigns and managers.

1. Some of these managers should not be managers. There are a shit load of managers now and they do NOT even come close to doing a good job. They don't even grade a campaign correctly. They open a spreadsheet see what number post a user had ended the previous week with, then see the number they have for the current week and just subtract giving the user a total for the current week. They don't even take the time to read users replies for the week. Just do a little math and move on.

Users have posts deleted every week(not all but alot do), so a manager needs to actually open a profile and count the posts for the week. Then, they need to check the posts and sections posted in. Check to make sure they're on topic. Then subtract the junk posts and end up with a total for the week.

I'm all for people trying to start a career, but if you cannot do the job, don't try.
legendary
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What is the policy for the old posts that got deleted?
This question was answered before you even joined the forum:
One question regarding post count: I often "bump" a thread. Obviously, that post doesn't count, as it's too short. But, the next week, when I bump again, I delete the first bump when I bump again. The new bump isn't counted, but removing my original bump lowers my Post Count. Am I right each bump effectively costs me 1 real post not being counted? Or do you account for this?
I go by post timings, so you should be fine there.
If you look at the spreadsheet, you'll notice the "Starting Post #" this week is often different than the "Ending Post #" last week.

no mention for Wall Observers topic.
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6. Posts in spam megathreads (based on my opinion), posts in campaign threads (including this one), necroposts for no good reason, posts in the Wall Observer thread and posts that "beat a dead horse" will not count.
member
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there are no mention for Wall Observers topic. In there the signature is not visible which means posts in there should not be counted but since there are no mention about it
Some managers to cover all such things, they do have simple rule like "wherever sig. are not visible, posts will not be counted"

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Posts in Local boards do count
This needs to be a separate rule IMHO.
legendary
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This rule has modified:
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3. Posts in Altcoin boards, Archival, Games and Rounds, Investor Based Games, Micro Earnings, Politics and Society, and Off-topic will not count. For obvious reasons, posts in Ivory Tower and Serious discussion don't count as well. Posts in Local boards do count.

Posts in Archival should have never been counted and this was an oversight on my part. (thanks to Loyce for pointing it out!)
If for some reason you disagree with the rule change, please let me know.
Since there is a talk about it now so I thought to point it out.
Hopefully I did not miss this rule but there are no mention for Wall Observers topic. In there the signature is not visible which means posts in there should not be counted but since there are no mention about it, it means posts are there being considered or already in ignore?

You have your post count increased with only 10 posts but you have posted 12 posts during the week.
Most of the campaign managers count from the starting day of their weeks and I think it's the same here.
legendary
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What is the policy for the old posts that got deleted? Only the post count is taken in consideration or the actual posts made during the week? Example: if you have posted in a self-moderated thread, and the OP decides to remove your comments from his thread after 3-4 months. You have your post count increased with only 10 posts but you have posted 12 posts during the week.
legendary
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legendary
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I always assumed it didn't count (shows how well I read the rules) so I've been posting some data dumps and some testing garbage there thinking I wouldn't get paid for it.

DarkStar_, if you want to deduct those posts from my next payout - feel free.

I assumed they didn't count too, and habitually excluded them when post counting. My guess is that 99% of all Archival posts wouldn't be considered due to other rules anyway, so it shouldn't really make a difference. I don't think there's anyone who actively posts constructive posts in Archival.
legendary
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What?! You mean to say that a low-traffic board reserved for a testing environment and expired topics doesn't deserve a bonus for posting in it? I'm absolutely done.

Preposterous! There may be some good validity for the concerns of a ChipMixer cult yet! What a coincidence that the member LoyceV has hoarded all these merit points and instigated this change. Very sneaky indeed. Wait a few years for the full takeover. Angry

I always assumed it didn't count (shows how well I read the rules) so I've been posting some data dumps and some testing garbage there thinking I wouldn't get paid for it.

DarkStar_, if you want to deduct those posts from my next payout - feel free.
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