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hero member
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June 21, 2023, 04:50:49 PM

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For some reason, some players like to play on unknown sites, I suspect that this is due to the fact that these sites, like casinos and betting offer bonuses. Like an addition to the first deposit and so on. Therefore, if there is no way to find out the reputation of the casino, then it is an excellent practice to do the following: read the maximum number of reviews on different sites, enter a small deposit and immediately try to withdraw it when winning. Do not wait until the winnings become really big. And if the casino does not ask for documents after a small withdrawal. It will be really strange if they start asking for them after withdrawing a larger win.
Yes, due to curiosity of some people on why they would  really be testing out those new sites which it would really be that common that there would be no such information if they would tend to make out some research
since it was just still new then it would be understandable.This is where they would really be deciding on testing it out which it should really be just that a small amount rather than on big one because if in case that
the site is really that a shady or not fair at all then you would really just lose a small amount unlike when you do make out huge deposits then it would really be ending up on losing big too.
Always take up considerations on risks taking and dont really be that too confident or really that careless when it comes into these type of decisions.
hero member
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June 21, 2023, 03:27:47 PM

Totally unfair or totally shady which it is something that should really be avoided on the first place and this is why its really always been that important that we should really make out some research first before tending
to make out some deposit on a certain casino because we know that no matter how many the legit site is, there would be  always those shady places on which it would really be ending up on scamming peoples funds
or users on which it would really be that a shit situation if ever it would happen into us. I have also that experienced on making up some deposits without having any hassle but on the time that you would really be tending to withdraw your money then this is where things becomes shit and becomes hard because they've been asking on things like KYC and other information which we know that these things are highly
been frowned upon on this space. We do always prefer on having no KYc and no strings attached on the time that you would really be making some huge withdrawal. This is why its really that important
that you should really be looking for any valid and connected information on a certain site on which you do tend to engage on.

For some reason, some players like to play on unknown sites, I suspect that this is due to the fact that these sites, like casinos and betting offer bonuses. Like an addition to the first deposit and so on. Therefore, if there is no way to find out the reputation of the casino, then it is an excellent practice to do the following: read the maximum number of reviews on different sites, enter a small deposit and immediately try to withdraw it when winning. Do not wait until the winnings become really big. And if the casino does not ask for documents after a small withdrawal. It will be really strange if they start asking for them after withdrawing a larger win.
hero member
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June 21, 2023, 02:33:37 PM

Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.

There are many people who do not know about cheating in gambling on the part of platforms. This means people who just want to play a little roulette or other slot machines solely for the sake of entertainment. And they do not know which casinos are reliable, such as those that sponsor subscriptions on our forum, and which gambling services are not reliable. Of course, many of these unreliable casinos require a KYC. They are created in order only to accumulate user documents in Big Date, and then sell them to Dark Net. In fact, many of them only look like casinos, having a simple interface.
That's a whole lot of accusations, let's just pray that we don't fall into that kind of hands, even the ones that look most legit could do such a thing. This is not only applicable to casinos, but also to financial institutions and I have proof of that with my past experiences where I am sure that my data was leaked. But at times, the company itself might not know about this, it could be some randy employees they trusted with people's data.

Regardless, we should keep the possibility of our data leak minimal by only using duly registered and regulated companies, which might limit it but can't still guarantee the safeguarding of the leak.

I also had a case when I urgently needed a computer in another city, but I didn't have my laptop with me. I went to an Internet cafe, and they immediately asked me to give my passport for scanning. I refused and left because it's strange to share documents for such a service.

Regarding the online casino, the OP writes that he was asked for KYC only after he decided to withdraw the winnings. I think that in this case the casino does not behave quite correctly. And this is another case when it is very easy to enter money into gambling services, but it is very difficult to withdraw them. I think under such conditions, when trying to enter a deposit on such platforms, they should warn that they will then require a KYC.
If there is no such warning, then the casino can be considered unfair.
Totally unfair or totally shady which it is something that should really be avoided on the first place and this is why its really always been that important that we should really make out some research first before tending
to make out some deposit on a certain casino because we know that no matter how many the legit site is, there would be  always those shady places on which it would really be ending up on scamming peoples funds
or users on which it would really be that a shit situation if ever it would happen into us. I have also that experienced on making up some deposits without having any hassle but on the time that you would really be tending to withdraw your money then this is where things becomes shit and becomes hard because they've been asking on things like KYC and other information which we know that these things are highly
been frowned upon on this space. We do always prefer on having no KYc and no strings attached on the time that you would really be making some huge withdrawal. This is why its really that important
that you should really be looking for any valid and connected information on a certain site on which you do tend to engage on.
hero member
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June 21, 2023, 02:16:45 PM

Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.

There are many people who do not know about cheating in gambling on the part of platforms. This means people who just want to play a little roulette or other slot machines solely for the sake of entertainment. And they do not know which casinos are reliable, such as those that sponsor subscriptions on our forum, and which gambling services are not reliable. Of course, many of these unreliable casinos require a KYC. They are created in order only to accumulate user documents in Big Date, and then sell them to Dark Net. In fact, many of them only look like casinos, having a simple interface.
That's a whole lot of accusations, let's just pray that we don't fall into that kind of hands, even the ones that look most legit could do such a thing. This is not only applicable to casinos, but also to financial institutions and I have proof of that with my past experiences where I am sure that my data was leaked. But at times, the company itself might not know about this, it could be some randy employees they trusted with people's data.

Regardless, we should keep the possibility of our data leak minimal by only using duly registered and regulated companies, which might limit it but can't still guarantee the safeguarding of the leak.

I also had a case when I urgently needed a computer in another city, but I didn't have my laptop with me. I went to an Internet cafe, and they immediately asked me to give my passport for scanning. I refused and left because it's strange to share documents for such a service.

Regarding the online casino, the OP writes that he was asked for KYC only after he decided to withdraw the winnings. I think that in this case the casino does not behave quite correctly. And this is another case when it is very easy to enter money into gambling services, but it is very difficult to withdraw them. I think under such conditions, when trying to enter a deposit on such platforms, they should warn that they will then require a KYC.
If there is no such warning, then the casino can be considered unfair.
legendary
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June 21, 2023, 12:29:42 PM
In the sense that Things are moving more and more towards a world of Technology where you can see that anything is the result of an AI , it can also benefit us by Using it for or against if it allows us to judge us , In this sense , we could go as long as the AI and Everything that is being developed will be the necessary tools to improve our systems and be able to offer a better service for us, of course , all this is paid , they do not charge us , but somehow they will scare you , when you Lose more in the game or the like, this will not go Unnoticed.

Don't we also know that the use of AI on casinos by gamblers could also serve a means of cheating on their website, they also need to earn some money through the operation of a gambling platform and we must not be too concentrated on our own side neglecting that they also have their own challenges while operating a gambling platform, that's why they have taken time to ensure the set-up of a good security measures to curb every attempts targeted on the system as a counterfeit.

Yes, it is a fact that everyone here talks about the AI, but it is obvious that it has been proven that the more the AI develops it will be used within the casino and that is something that cannot be avoided, the casinos do not have to take into consideration all the additions of it, apart from that we have a robot that can help that is the Chat-GPT, but this is not only the robot that has all the power, at the moment it can be programmed many things to do a specific task, and that task can be based on only prediction and increasingly better algorithms for it , and it has nothing to do with ChatGPT but for the most scholars of AI programming.
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June 21, 2023, 10:13:37 AM
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
If a casino platform asks for KYC when you win a bet, it's likely a scam. I think a trusted casino platform would never ask to do KYC for small withdrawals. However, there are various casino platforms where KYC is required for one's financial convenience. But if a trusted gambling platform asks for KYC then it is not a scam.

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
There are some casino platforms where they promise bonuses and there are bonuses available. Again there are some platforms which are not true to their promises but are scams. Many times it is seen that the bonus is not available after the offers that are given by the casino platforms are over. In that case, if you think you promised a bonus and later you didn't get that bonus, I don't think it's a scam. However, some platforms can cause problems when withdrawing money. All these casino platforms give good offers when the money is deposited and then give many problems when withdrawing the money later. Some of these casino platforms that mess with KYC are definitely scam sites.
hero member
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June 21, 2023, 05:43:31 AM
There are some casinos that would never mind on cheating there customers for so many reasons. Sometimes if we are not so observant, we might not know what is happening and how we are being cheated. This is one the reasons why some gamblers do prefer using multiple casinos to play bets and earn bonuses at the same time. I have seen casinos using the old traditional way to pay gamblers during withdrawals making withdrawal or funds to be very slow. It is advisable for us to always use different casinos so that we can know the ones that are still lagging behind the trend and technology.
Scam casinos will always try to cheat their customers in various ways, which has happened to many gamblers. We have to be careful in choosing the casino so we won't be fooled by the various promotions offered by the casino. Scam casinos will try to attract the attention of careless and unwary gamblers, especially since these scam casinos can provide bigger and more unreasonable bonuses to their customers. So only by being careful can we keep ourselves away from scam casinos and be calm in playing gambling.
The usual strategy of a scam casino is to offer an attractive and convincing bonus and promotions to lure the gamblers to play on their site. So if you're not doing your own research and just blindly signing up to a casino that got your attention then you'll likely fall victim.

On the other side having many options of casinos to play in is good because you'll know what platform is the best on their service. To avoid the casinos that are proven to be shady or have a plenty of existing accusations, always read the reviews of the gamblers who experienced playing on the particular site to be certain that you're dealing with the best site. We can avoid the scam sites if we're careful and taking time to research before playing.
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June 21, 2023, 03:42:25 AM

Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.

There are many people who do not know about cheating in gambling on the part of platforms. This means people who just want to play a little roulette or other slot machines solely for the sake of entertainment. And they do not know which casinos are reliable, such as those that sponsor subscriptions on our forum, and which gambling services are not reliable. Of course, many of these unreliable casinos require a KYC. They are created in order only to accumulate user documents in Big Date, and then sell them to Dark Net. In fact, many of them only look like casinos, having a simple interface.
That's a whole lot of accusations, let's just pray that we don't fall into that kind of hands, even the ones that look most legit could do such a thing. This is not only applicable to casinos, but also to financial institutions and I have proof of that with my past experiences where I am sure that my data was leaked. But at times, the company itself might not know about this, it could be some randy employees they trusted with people's data.

Regardless, we should keep the possibility of our data leak minimal by only using duly registered and regulated companies, which might limit it but can't still guarantee the safeguarding of the leak.
Only by being careful when playing gambling or following promos can we do so we don't get caught in a scam casino trap.
Usually, users are caught in such a situation because they follow a promo given by the casino so they are interested and deposit the minimum amount of money required to get the bonus.
Apart from that, we also have to pay attention if we want to do KYC at a casino and only choose casinos that have been proven to be trusted by many people to avoid cases of fraud that still occur frequently.
We don't really know which casino will end up being a scam but as long as we always choose the casino carefully, I think we should be fine.
And even though there will be data leaks in some casinos, I don't think it will happen to us as long as we are careful.
hero member
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June 20, 2023, 11:38:46 PM

Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.

There are many people who do not know about cheating in gambling on the part of platforms. This means people who just want to play a little roulette or other slot machines solely for the sake of entertainment. And they do not know which casinos are reliable, such as those that sponsor subscriptions on our forum, and which gambling services are not reliable. Of course, many of these unreliable casinos require a KYC. They are created in order only to accumulate user documents in Big Date, and then sell them to Dark Net. In fact, many of them only look like casinos, having a simple interface.
That's a whole lot of accusations, let's just pray that we don't fall into that kind of hands, even the ones that look most legit could do such a thing. This is not only applicable to casinos, but also to financial institutions and I have proof of that with my past experiences where I am sure that my data was leaked. But at times, the company itself might not know about this, it could be some randy employees they trusted with people's data.

Regardless, we should keep the possibility of our data leak minimal by only using duly registered and regulated companies, which might limit it but can't still guarantee the safeguarding of the leak.
legendary
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June 20, 2023, 07:53:27 PM
Yes, in fact there are many ways to manage it, I think they shouldn't be done manually anymore, there are many platforms that lately I've entered where if they ask for identification, it has happened to me that in some exchanges the verification is very fast and it seems to me that they do it the robots, the AI robots that simplify the work at a great speed and that is something I like, when we need to register there is a privilege that is obtained if and only if they give you the right one in the verification and 1 week ago I did one and In a matter of 5 minutes he had already verified my documents and everything, it seemed like something great, casinos should have that verification.

Whether it's done manually or using an AI robot depends on the casino itself whether they have a lot of customers there and are already a big casino because if the casino is still small they want to use AI it's the same they need more budget for AI development.
But if the casino is big and has a lot of customers, it is more likely to use Al to help in service to make it more efficient and fast. This also really helps the team to complete some work, such as confirming verification, like what you did in just 5 minutes.
But if all existing casinos implement this, it might be very pleasant where every time they verify or submit a complaint, they can deal with it immediately.

Either we like it or not the world is already rotating round about the new and advanced technology of ChatGPT using AI, there's nothing than to embrace it, other technologies will still be in use like the web 3 and many more, you can imagine when we all begins with the uae of a 2G network technology before it turns 3G then now we are using 4G and with time the 5G will soon be used everywhere, as we are going so is the advanced technology moving and with this new era, forget about KYC or security bridge because this metaverse technology has turned everything more easier and simpler with maximum security, so why wouldn't gambling also advanced along the way with this improvements.

It is true, here things with the Chagpt have advanced a lot, this robot has changed the lives of many people, it has made it much easier for them and taken away from others, however these technologies were very obvious that they had to appear because everything is heading towards a world where things are more accessible and access to real information is there, nothing more than consulting it, for this and many other things is that AI is something that is being implemented in everything , be it in casinos , or sports betting , it can be said that this will continue to Progress to create a World where the Main thing will be to be in contact with all the necessary knowledge, Obviously Improving life.


We've seen the world change from analog to digital, and now we're transitioning from digital to an AI-dominant era. It does increase layers of complexity we're just beginning to understand. ChatGPT and similar technologies are the first step into this new realm. It’s like we’re not just surfing the web anymore; we’re learning to surf the cosmic waves of data.

The advancements in AI, especially with technologies like ChatGPT, are akin to the evolution of mobile networks. The jump from 2G to 4G was monumental, and now as we enter the era of 5G, the impact of AI on our lives will be just as significant, if not more. Metaverse tech is the next level of this digital evolution, like an MMORPG but for life itself.

As for gambling and sports betting, AI is already reshaping these landscapes, enhancing security, refining predictions, and creating a more streamlined user experience. The house always wins, but with AI, the players may start having better odds!

What you say is very true , and now the trend of lops casinos and everything that it means to play will be something else , the AI, the Quantum Computers (which will soon be another topic) all this leads to think that the things will be to be done at another level , there will always be ways to search for Ruffians to Scam casinos , what is most Sought now is AI , Different types of AI are being Developed, this is what threatens the Soonest Casinso currently, however, the defense Mechanisms should already exist, it is what they are concentrating on the most, here the ones who have the most work are the devs in blockchain to Block this type of attack.
legendary
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June 16, 2023, 02:16:27 PM
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This is why it would really be always that smart on looking for information here on this forum if ever there are some issues on which the current casino you've been dealing on which you could really be able to verify on this place whether its really that legit or not.We or the community isnt really that blind with those shady acts or moves made by some casinos but its true that there are really times that those issues are really that made up by some trolls or surely from other competitors on this industry. This is why whenever we do see some scam accusations then it would be better to read up whether those things are legit accusations or
just simply made out by some trolls or to those who do love on making some false accusation just to make a certain company to look bad. It isnt something new because competition is fierce
and it is really just that normal that having those kind of false accusations around.
Intense competition could urge some to defame honorable competitors. Yet, not every scam claim on this forum can be brushed off as such. Scam allegations demand proper scrutiny. No casino, however esteemed, is exempt from malpractice. Some might argue it's detrimental to their image, but examples of deceit by reputed firms exist.

Our duty as users is to dig deeper, not just rely on a casino's 'reputation'. Forums might amplify shared biases, yet we shouldn't skip doing our due diligence before trusting a casino.
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June 16, 2023, 02:00:59 PM
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Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.
Im not defending casinos, but the scene's not as one-dimensional. Not every house is playing dirty, surely

Yes, there are sketchy joints exploiting gamers. But, remember theres a fair share of straight-shooting houses practicing diligent KYC. They dont trick you when you hit it big.

To claim casinos use fake IDs only during fat payouts is harsh, isnt it? Isn't that a broad brush? The golden rule: bet wisely, stick to reputable joints. Not all are out to fleece you, agreed?

There are some gambling houses which are very honest and reputed ones. They will never deceive you  or try to steal your winnings no matter how big you win a bet or a game. However there are times that we see that people raise concerns even on those trusted sites that they have scam some gamblers.

Here we need to closely look into the case by case basis. Sometimes the gambler himself lost in gambling and they wrongly accused the gambling site to be at fault.
Competition on casino industry is very thight and there's a chance that there are other casino who are hiring people or themselves to do a black propaganda to reputable casinos. This is to gain more traction to their own casino. This is why each scam cases needs to be verified and looked into especially those who are accusing with a high amount. Reputable casino spent so much on building their casino reputation snd won't deceive people with small amounts. Though even how much the casino reputation are, there are still chances that they might turn into a scam casino. Weve seen some reputated casino got a real scam issues in this forum before.
This is why it would really be always that smart on looking for information here on this forum if ever there are some issues on which the current casino you've been dealing on which you could really be able to verify on this place whether its really that legit or not.We or the community isnt really that blind with those shady acts or moves made by some casinos but its true that there are really times that those issues are really that made up by some trolls or surely from other competitors on this industry. This is why whenever we do see some scam accusations then it would be better to read up whether those things are legit accusations or
just simply made out by some trolls or to those who do love on making some false accusation just to make a certain company to look bad. It isnt something new because competition is fierce
and it is really just that normal that having those kind of false accusations around.

I agree that it is normal for the gambling industry to slander each other, after all, the cash flow in this industry is huge.

Our forum is a really reliable place, since users have freedom, and no one will delete a post with the author's name, no matter what point of view the author has, if the post is not spam. There are a lot of people here and most of their opinions are not biased. The reputation here has been accumulating for years, and everyone knows each other. Therefore, those who have recently registered do not have such weight in their opinions. After all, they can be bribed by any gambling services.
sr. member
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June 15, 2023, 04:59:29 PM
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Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.
Im not defending casinos, but the scene's not as one-dimensional. Not every house is playing dirty, surely

Yes, there are sketchy joints exploiting gamers. But, remember theres a fair share of straight-shooting houses practicing diligent KYC. They dont trick you when you hit it big.

To claim casinos use fake IDs only during fat payouts is harsh, isnt it? Isn't that a broad brush? The golden rule: bet wisely, stick to reputable joints. Not all are out to fleece you, agreed?

There are some gambling houses which are very honest and reputed ones. They will never deceive you  or try to steal your winnings no matter how big you win a bet or a game. However there are times that we see that people raise concerns even on those trusted sites that they have scam some gamblers.

Here we need to closely look into the case by case basis. Sometimes the gambler himself lost in gambling and they wrongly accused the gambling site to be at fault.
Competition on casino industry is very thight and there's a chance that there are other casino who are hiring people or themselves to do a black propaganda to reputable casinos. This is to gain more traction to their own casino. This is why each scam cases needs to be verified and looked into especially those who are accusing with a high amount. Reputable casino spent so much on building their casino reputation snd won't deceive people with small amounts. Though even how much the casino reputation are, there are still chances that they might turn into a scam casino. Weve seen some reputated casino got a real scam issues in this forum before.
This is why it would really be always that smart on looking for information here on this forum if ever there are some issues on which the current casino you've been dealing on which you could really be able to verify on this place whether its really that legit or not.We or the community isnt really that blind with those shady acts or moves made by some casinos but its true that there are really times that those issues are really that made up by some trolls or surely from other competitors on this industry. This is why whenever we do see some scam accusations then it would be better to read up whether those things are legit accusations or
just simply made out by some trolls or to those who do love on making some false accusation just to make a certain company to look bad. It isnt something new because competition is fierce
and it is really just that normal that having those kind of false accusations around.
hero member
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June 15, 2023, 02:23:31 PM
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Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.
Im not defending casinos, but the scene's not as one-dimensional. Not every house is playing dirty, surely

Yes, there are sketchy joints exploiting gamers. But, remember theres a fair share of straight-shooting houses practicing diligent KYC. They dont trick you when you hit it big.

To claim casinos use fake IDs only during fat payouts is harsh, isnt it? Isn't that a broad brush? The golden rule: bet wisely, stick to reputable joints. Not all are out to fleece you, agreed?

There are some gambling houses which are very honest and reputed ones. They will never deceive you  or try to steal your winnings no matter how big you win a bet or a game. However there are times that we see that people raise concerns even on those trusted sites that they have scam some gamblers.

Here we need to closely look into the case by case basis. Sometimes the gambler himself lost in gambling and they wrongly accused the gambling site to be at fault.
Competition on casino industry is very thight and there's a chance that there are other casino who are hiring people or themselves to do a black propaganda to reputable casinos. This is to gain more traction to their own casino. This is why each scam cases needs to be verified and looked into especially those who are accusing with a high amount. Reputable casino spent so much on building their casino reputation snd won't deceive people with small amounts. Though even how much the casino reputation are, there are still chances that they might turn into a scam casino. Weve seen some reputated casino got a real scam issues in this forum before.

That's right, I've seen how this practice is often used by unscrupulous organizations to order bad reviews on their competitors. Because of this, quite good companies received a lot of bad reviews that do not correspond to reality. I have met such cases about hotels in Turkey when I was looking for a place to relax. At the same time, such reviews were in my native language, but they were very illiterate. It was clear that this was not written by real people.
 And it turns out that in such a monetary sphere as Gambling, such dirty methods are absolutely used.

Now it is absolutely clear to me why every case of misunderstanding on the part of the client and the casino is considered on our forum in a meticulous individual order.
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June 15, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
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Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.
Im not defending casinos, but the scene's not as one-dimensional. Not every house is playing dirty, surely

Yes, there are sketchy joints exploiting gamers. But, remember theres a fair share of straight-shooting houses practicing diligent KYC. They dont trick you when you hit it big.

To claim casinos use fake IDs only during fat payouts is harsh, isnt it? Isn't that a broad brush? The golden rule: bet wisely, stick to reputable joints. Not all are out to fleece you, agreed?

There are some gambling houses which are very honest and reputed ones. They will never deceive you  or try to steal your winnings no matter how big you win a bet or a game. However there are times that we see that people raise concerns even on those trusted sites that they have scam some gamblers.

Here we need to closely look into the case by case basis. Sometimes the gambler himself lost in gambling and they wrongly accused the gambling site to be at fault.
Competition on casino industry is very thight and there's a chance that there are other casino who are hiring people or themselves to do a black propaganda to reputable casinos. This is to gain more traction to their own casino. This is why each scam cases needs to be verified and looked into especially those who are accusing with a high amount. Reputable casino spent so much on building their casino reputation snd won't deceive people with small amounts. Though even how much the casino reputation are, there are still chances that they might turn into a scam casino. Weve seen some reputated casino got a real scam issues in this forum before.
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Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.
Im not defending casinos, but the scene's not as one-dimensional. Not every house is playing dirty, surely

Yes, there are sketchy joints exploiting gamers. But, remember theres a fair share of straight-shooting houses practicing diligent KYC. They dont trick you when you hit it big.

To claim casinos use fake IDs only during fat payouts is harsh, isnt it? Isn't that a broad brush? The golden rule: bet wisely, stick to reputable joints. Not all are out to fleece you, agreed?

There are some gambling houses which are very honest and reputed ones. They will never deceive you  or try to steal your winnings no matter how big you win a bet or a game. However there are times that we see that people raise concerns even on those trusted sites that they have scam some gamblers.

Here we need to closely look into the case by case basis. Sometimes the gambler himself lost in gambling and they wrongly accused the gambling site to be at fault.
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June 15, 2023, 06:15:36 AM
There are some casinos that would never mind on cheating there customers for so many reasons. Sometimes if we are not so observant, we might not know what is happening and how we are being cheated. This is one the reasons why some gamblers do prefer using multiple casinos to play bets and earn bonuses at the same time. I have seen casinos using the old traditional way to pay gamblers during withdrawals making withdrawal or funds to be very slow. It is advisable for us to always use different casinos so that we can know the ones that are still lagging behind the trend and technology.
Scam casinos will always try to cheat their customers in various ways, which has happened to many gamblers. We have to be careful in choosing the casino so we won't be fooled by the various promotions offered by the casino. Scam casinos will try to attract the attention of careless and unwary gamblers, especially since these scam casinos can provide bigger and more unreasonable bonuses to their customers. So only by being careful can we keep ourselves away from scam casinos and be calm in playing gambling.
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Those incidents are often happen in some of non reputed casino. Which is not known unless revealed. Most of the time this type of intention happens in casinos that plan to scam. Reputed casino don't take much time after submit KYC. Either they will approve it or reject. When casinos deserve that 30 times the profit will be withdrawn they exploit that issue. But in this perspective there is no reason to call their fault even though their motives were not honest. Should not gamble on any trustless site.

There are many people who do not know about cheating in gambling on the part of platforms. This means people who just want to play a little roulette or other slot machines solely for the sake of entertainment. And they do not know which casinos are reliable, such as those that sponsor subscriptions on our forum, and which gambling services are not reliable. Of course, many of these unreliable casinos require a KYC. They are created in order only to accumulate user documents in Big Date, and then sell them to Dark Net. In fact, many of them only look like casinos, having a simple interface.
There are some casinos that would never mind on cheating there customers for so many reasons. Sometimes if we are not so observant, we might not know what is happening and how we are being cheated. This is one the reasons why some gamblers do prefer using multiple casinos to play bets and earn bonuses at the same time. I have seen casinos using the old traditional way to pay gamblers during withdrawals making withdrawal or funds to be very slow. It is advisable for us to always use different casinos so that we can know the ones that are still lagging behind the trend and technology.
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June 15, 2023, 04:26:11 AM
In the sense that Things are moving more and more towards a world of Technology where you can see that anything is the result of an AI , it can also benefit us by Using it for or against if it allows us to judge us , In this sense , we could go as long as the AI and Everything that is being developed will be the necessary tools to improve our systems and be able to offer a better service for us, of course , all this is paid , they do not charge us , but somehow they will scare you , when you Lose more in the game or the like, this will not go Unnoticed.

We can all see how vast is the advanced technology in this digital era where everyone want to get something better and more better from his gambling experience while using a casino, but we cannot always expect this advancement to be more vested on our own side than the casinos because they are also interested in using those same advancement to experience more quality delivery of their services and to also make more profitabilities, so the both has to get balanced that everyone get satisfied accordingly.

   -    Sometimes there are other casinos that really scam gamblers or players, the kind that are willing to spend a lot of money to make their show believable. They will first make their customers feel important to the gambling platform and when they see that their community is increasing, they will start scamming their players.

This is when they see a lot of money coming into their casino that they will act on their true purpose to their gamblers. And woe to those who are ignorant of this matter. So we as gamblers must also know how to be careful and critical.
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June 15, 2023, 01:24:38 AM
A scam casino remains a scam regardless of whether it requires kyc or not, if you don't pass the kyc or don't get the signup bonus it doesn't necessarily mean it's a scam but maybe it's better to look elsewhere
It is obvious that just because someone can't verify their KYC with a platform, it shouldn't be considered a scam. A lot of times, users' KYC applications are rejected for a lot of reasons, mainly because the documents submitted are not clear and aren't readable, or maybe personal details provided don't match with what's written on the documents, and many other reasons could cause this to happen.

As OP said, they didn't specifically refused to pay the money but they rejected the KYC verification and they didn't even ask the support team about the reason or retried, maybe if they did that, they would assist them with it and the verification could get completed.
Deviation from KYC verification and recognition of the player’s documents as unsuitable for verifying his identity by the casino in case of a player’s request to withdraw a large winnings to his account and persistent confirmation from the casino that the documents are fake, although the player himself knows very well that the documents are real.  In this case, I think that such a casino is fraudulent.  By the way, for the final confirmation of identity, you can use video communications and a small survey of a person, players, and this is now generally very simple. 
So the issue with KYC can almost always be resolved. 
And the casino's nit-picking about documents when a clearly conscientious player passes KYC are signs of abuse and even fraud.  It is clear that all large and well-known casinos do not do this.
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