Erdogan has called the Netherlands "a relic of Nazism and the Nazis"

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Quote from: Xester on March 27, 2017, 08:26:19 AM

Turkeys affair must not be brought to other countries and making or holding a really is not a good thing to do. Instead of holding a rally he must have a meeting with the Dutch to converse the things he wanted to propose and discuss. The reason he is denied to enter is because he is trying to make some chaos, imagine a foreign minister leading a rally that is an eyesore and that is not the best way to bring changes to the country.

This is just a sign of the things to come in the future. Within a few years, Turkey (and its 80 million Muslims) will be admitted in to the European Union. All the major cities such as Brussels, Paris, Milan, Vienna, Berlin and Stockholm will be flooded with the Turkish immigrants. After a few years, Erdogan will replace Angela Merkel as the European Union dictator.

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Quote from: signature200 on March 11, 2017, 09:38:42 AM

The Turkish foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Ankara could impose economic and political sanctions against the Netherlands, if the country's authorities denied him permission to fly to Rotterdam to participate in the rally, reports Reuters.
Note that Turkish politicians had planned to speak at rallies in several European countries. The power of Rotterdam rejected the Minister of foreign Affairs of Turkey Mevlut Cavusoglu permission to hold a rally on 11 March in which he planned to convince the Dutch with dual citizenship to support the changes in Turkey's Constitution.

Turkeys affair must not be brought to other countries and making or holding a really is not a good thing to do. Instead of holding a rally he must have a meeting with the Dutch to converse the things he wanted to propose and discuss. The reason he is denied to enter is because he is trying to make some chaos, imagine a foreign minister leading a rally that is an eyesore and that is not the best way to bring changes to the country.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on March 26, 2017, 07:25:54 PM

Turkey went a little loose with all those claims and threats. From this to letting a million of immigrants to the EU, and with Erdogan leading, it's gonna turn out to be just like in other muslim theocratic countries and we all know what that means.

Turkey is making all those threats because they know that they can afford to do so. If anyone in the European Union acts against them, then Turkey will send the next batch of Muslim immigrants to the EU.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on March 26, 2017, 07:25:54 PM

Turkey went a little loose with all those claims and threats. From this to letting a million of immigrants to the EU, and with Erdogan leading, it's gonna turn out to be just like in other muslim theocratic countries and we all know what that means.

Overall it seems not that bad. With his populist rhetoric he is closing every door left to join the EU by now.

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Turkey went a little loose with all those claims and threats. From this to letting a million of immigrants to the EU, and with Erdogan leading, it's gonna turn out to be just like in other muslim theocratic countries and we all know what that means.

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Quote from: cosmicblue on March 26, 2017, 02:30:25 PM

Never really thought of the Netherlands as a nazi soceity but just the opposite.
They do have Amstradam where there you can be free to do what ever you want with out having to be worried about being thrown in jail for like what the nazis did to the jewish people for just being jew. Lips sealed

The Dutch suffered enormously under the Nazi rule during the late 1930s and early 1940s. And I am not just talking about the Dutch Jews and the Dutch Roma. Christian Dutch were also persecuted by the Nazis. Perhaps that was the reason why there was a backlash against the ethnic German minority in the Netherlands, after the war ended in 1945.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

Turkey is the same country where more than 2,000 Kurds were massacred recently just because of their ethnicity. And we have to remember that they are yet to apologize for the genocide of the Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians in 1918.

Now, that's pure hypocrisy.

Nobody gives a shit about greeks, armenians or especially kurds at all. Turkey don't have to apologize for anything.

Did USA apologize after they fcked Japan up (Iraq, Syria or any other country)? Did Germany apologize?

No they didn't. Not they way you want them to do at least. What you want from Turkey is their land as an apology. That won't happen. You know why? Because we live in an unfair world and in this world the strongest ones are always right. No matter what crime they are committed.

USA&Germany knows this best.

Delusional much?

If it woudnt be for the 6 million dead jews and 20-30 million dead ~~slaves~~ slavics germany of today would be one of the strongest military in the world....

It's because they fucked up what they were trying to accomplish and then they become weak. They were punished to some extent, i can't deny it. But was it enough? I don't know. Now think about what would have happened if Germany had won the ww.

That's exactly the case with USA. Because there isn't any country stronger than USA who can punish them for their actions.

The punishment was as severe as possible. There was no 2nd peace treaty of versailles because nobody wanted to risk a future world war 3 with germany.

Germany was allowed an army because they were choosen to die first when the communist would start an invasion.
Actually whole germany was destined to be the nuclear battlefield between west and east.

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Never really thought of the Netherlands as a nazi soceity but just the opposite.
They do have Amstradam where there you can be free to do what ever you want with out having to be worried about being thrown in jail for like what the nazis did to the jewish people for just being jew. Lips sealed

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Quote from: mindrust on March 26, 2017, 02:09:58 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

Turkey is the same country where more than 2,000 Kurds were massacred recently just because of their ethnicity. And we have to remember that they are yet to apologize for the genocide of the Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians in 1918.

Now, that's pure hypocrisy.

Nobody gives a shit about greeks, armenians or especially kurds at all. Turkey don't have to apologize for anything.

Did USA apologize after they fcked Japan up (Iraq, Syria or any other country)? Did Germany apologize?

No they didn't. Not they way you want them to do at least. What you want from Turkey is their land as an apology. That won't happen. You know why? Because we live in an unfair world and in this world the strongest ones are always right. No matter what crime they are committed.

USA&Germany knows this best.

Turkey is a NATO member and therefore no an can do anything against them. The Americans are quick to accuse Bashar al Assad of ethnic cleansing, but I doubt whether he has done 1/100th of what Erdogan has done to the Kurds in his own country. As long as Turkey enjoys the NATO membership, they don't need to be afraid of anything.

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Quote from: criptix on March 26, 2017, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: mindrust on March 26, 2017, 02:09:58 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

Turkey is the same country where more than 2,000 Kurds were massacred recently just because of their ethnicity. And we have to remember that they are yet to apologize for the genocide of the Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians in 1918.

Now, that's pure hypocrisy.

Nobody gives a shit about greeks, armenians or especially kurds at all. Turkey don't have to apologize for anything.

Did USA apologize after they fcked Japan up (Iraq, Syria or any other country)? Did Germany apologize?

No they didn't. Not they way you want them to do at least. What you want from Turkey is their land as an apology. That won't happen. You know why? Because we live in an unfair world and in this world the strongest ones are always right. No matter what crime they are committed.

USA&Germany knows this best.

Delusional much?

If it woudnt be for the 6 million dead jews and 20-30 million dead ~~slaves~~ slavics germany of today would be one of the strongest military in the world....

It's because they fucked up what they were trying to accomplish and then they become weak. They were punished to some extent, i can't deny it. But was it enough? I don't know. Now think about what would have happened if Germany had won the ww.

That's exactly the case with USA. Because there isn't any country stronger than USA who can punish them for their actions.

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Quote from: mindrust on March 26, 2017, 02:09:58 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

Turkey is the same country where more than 2,000 Kurds were massacred recently just because of their ethnicity. And we have to remember that they are yet to apologize for the genocide of the Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians in 1918.

Now, that's pure hypocrisy.

Nobody gives a shit about greeks, armenians or especially kurds at all. Turkey don't have to apologize for anything.

Did USA apologize after they fcked Japan up (Iraq, Syria or any other country)? Did Germany apologize?

No they didn't. Not they way you want them to do at least. What you want from Turkey is their land as an apology. That won't happen. You know why? Because we live in an unfair world and in this world the strongest ones are always right. No matter what crime they are committed.

USA&Germany knows this best.

Delusional much?

If it woudnt be for the 6 million dead jews and 20-30 million dead ~~slaves~~ slavics germany of today would be one of the strongest military in the world....

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 26, 2017, 01:11:56 PM

Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 26, 2017, 12:02:47 PM

Erdogan is going to cause lots of problem for the whole of europe and even the world if he is not stopped. He is a dictator in the making.

And who is responsible for all this chaos and anarchy? It was Angela Merkel who helped Erdogan to dominate the Europe. Merkel just wanted free sex from Erdogan, and in return she gave him unlimited powers to interfere in the internal affairs of the European Union. Remember the €20 billion grants which she granted to Turkey in 2015/16?

Have you seen Angela Merkel? Why do you think that Erdogan will agree to have sex with her? No it's just different. Erdogan too much to deal with Putin and awoke in him a dictatorial mood.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

Turkey is the same country where more than 2,000 Kurds were massacred recently just because of their ethnicity. And we have to remember that they are yet to apologize for the genocide of the Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians in 1918.

Now, that's pure hypocrisy.

Nobody gives a shit about greeks, armenians or especially kurds at all. Turkey don't have to apologize for anything.

Did USA apologize after they fcked Japan up (Iraq, Syria or any other country)? Did Germany apologize?

No they didn't. Not thy way you want them to do at least. What you want from Turkey is their land as an apology. That won't happen. You know why? Because we live in an unfair world and in this world the strongest ones are always right. No matter what crime they are committed.

USA&Germany knows this best.

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It's to much really, it looks like that Erdogan is ''out of mind'' recently.
He is acting like second ''Putin'' and it seems Putin is example he wants to follow.
Personally, I think that Erdogan is playing game here and wants to mobilize his voters for the next referendum in Turkey.
He don't have any real facts here but making hiss ''own reality'' like Trump.
With good media you can convince people in anything.
I think that after referendum situation will change and become more peaceful and relax.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on March 26, 2017, 01:11:56 PM

Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 26, 2017, 12:02:47 PM

Erdogan is going to cause lots of problem for the whole of europe and even the world if he is not stopped. He is a dictator in the making.

And who is responsible for all this chaos and anarchy? It was Angela Merkel who helped Erdogan to dominate the Europe. Merkel just wanted free sex from Erdogan, and in return she gave him unlimited powers to interfere in the internal affairs of the European Union. Remember the €20 billion grants which she granted to Turkey in 2015/16?

Which 20 billion? What did i miss lol

My google-fu seems not to work either ;(

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Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 26, 2017, 12:02:47 PM

Erdogan is going to cause lots of problem for the whole of europe and even the world if he is not stopped. He is a dictator in the making.

And who is responsible for all this chaos and anarchy? It was Angela Merkel who helped Erdogan to dominate the Europe. Merkel just wanted free sex from Erdogan, and in return she gave him unlimited powers to interfere in the internal affairs of the European Union. Remember the €20 billion grants which she granted to Turkey in 2015/16?

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Erdogan is going to cause lots of problem for the whole of europe and even the world if he is not stopped. He is a dictator in the making.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 20, 2017, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: Mihaylovic on March 20, 2017, 06:06:04 AM

Wrong move for both counties. So stupid situation for both of them teally...

OK..... the drama is over. The tensions were artificially created by the Dutch ruling party VVD (People's Party for Freedom and Democracy), so that they could defeat Wilder's PVV in the elections. Now the elections are over, and the VVD will apologize to Erdogan.

^^^
Wilders always said mudslimes are the worst and he wanted to ban them+islam as a whole.
VVD did exactly what wilders wanted them to do lols.

Reality is that he lost because of trump.
He is the dutch trump just with less trumpconomics but more muslim hate.
People see the first 2 months of trump and it was enough.

Btw the greens increased their seat in the parlament by 400%. They probaly will replace wilders protest party soon.

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Quote from: Mihaylovic on March 20, 2017, 06:06:04 AM

Wrong move for both counties. So stupid situation for both of them teally...

OK..... the drama is over. The tensions were artificially created by the Dutch ruling party VVD (People's Party for Freedom and Democracy), so that they could defeat Wilder's PVV in the elections. Now the elections are over, and the VVD will apologize to Erdogan.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 12, 2017, 12:20:34 AM

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Quote from: signature200 on March 11, 2017, 09:38:42 AM

The Turkish foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Ankara could impose economic and political sanctions against the Netherlands, if the country's authorities denied him permission to fly to Rotterdam to participate in the rally, reports Reuters.
Note that Turkish politicians had planned to speak at rallies in several European countries. The power of Rotterdam rejected the Minister of foreign Affairs of Turkey Mevlut Cavusoglu permission to hold a rally on 11 March in which he planned to convince the Dutch with dual citizenship to support the changes in Turkey's Constitution.

The dutch have forbidden his private plane to land on dutch territorium, so the turkish minister of family and social policies just announced she would be coming by car instead. What a joke that country is. Holy guacamole.

Normally, if a head of state gets insulted in such a way, then he is more likely to stay away from that particular nation and initiate retaliatory measures. But by visiting the Netherlands like a beggar, Erdogan has proved that he has no shame.

Cavusoglu isn't a head of state, he's Erdogan pocket slave.

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