Errol Spence Jr. Vs Manny Pacquiao - page 2.

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I haven’t seen any press release about the next fight of Pacquiao. All they say is Manny is open for a fight this March because the Senate is on a break at that period of time.

There's a lot of rumors, he could also fight Garcia and I think he would also get a good win if that will happen.
Any of the fighters who are in top rankings in the welterweight division is going to be a good match for Manny.

We can also see the ranking here https://box.live/world-rankings/welterweight/
Of the ranking based on the above link, its only Crawford and spence that I think would give a good fight to manny, at least if Manny wins it will not be an easy one since both fighters are both heavy hitters.

Either Danny Garcia, Crawford, and Spence will test the skill, speed, and power amidst old age in Manny. I want to see any of them take the gloves against the old legend actually. But Manny and his camp must be very careful in choosing the next opponent. They want someone who has got the name but also the lesser power that would not put their fighter in too much danger. The most probable for now is Danny Garcia. But they still have a lot of time for negotiations. Everything is still possible this time.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on November 18, 2019, 06:29:11 PM

I haven’t seen any press release about the next fight of Pacquiao. All they say is Manny is open for a fight this March because the Senate is on a break at that period of time.

There's a lot of rumors, he could also fight Garcia and I think he would also get a good win if that will happen.
Any of the fighters who are in top rankings in the welterweight division is going to be a good match for Manny.

We can also see the ranking here https://box.live/world-rankings/welterweight/
Of the ranking based on the above link, its only Crawford and spence that I think would give a good fight to manny, at least if Manny wins it will not be an easy one since both fighters are both heavy hitters.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 17, 2019, 06:43:29 PM

We don't see see some pictures of spence now, maybe let us not consider him yet as he might need much time to recover.

Maybe he is really in bad condition and showing a picture of him while he is still recovering would not help to market on his future possible fight with Manny, though he was reportedly not heavily injured but we don't really know his real status, its the team that only knows and if they want to keep it private, they can as that's their right.

This is a double edged sword we got here. We dont see picture of his current condition so we dont know if he is fit to fight or not. For the camp of Manny its a guessing game, all they can do is prepare fore a fight on March 2020 for Spence but they should not take it for granted.

I haven’t seen any press release about the next fight of Pacquiao. All they say is Manny is open for a fight this March because the Senate is on a break at that period of time.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 17, 2019, 06:43:29 PM

We don't see see some pictures of spence now, maybe let us not consider him yet as he might need much time to recover.

Maybe he is really in bad condition and showing a picture of him while he is still recovering would not help to market on his future possible fight with Manny, though he was reportedly not heavily injured but we don't really know his real status, its the team that only knows and if they want to keep it private, they can as that's their right.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on November 17, 2019, 07:23:44 AM

Many boxers think they are enough to fight Manny Pacquiao because they already gain popularity and the rank that to fight the one who is still conquering the world of boxing.

That's not the only reason, actually they are looking for big payday and a possible chance to beat the legend.
if they will accept fight, that means they are ready for the punishment they might suffer but I don't like fighters if they feel the power of Manny to just fight just to survive.

The last fight of Manny was a great fight and much respect for Thurman as he showed he doesn't back down.
His trash talking was applied in the right but after the fight, he showed his real self which he is respectful and willing to accept loses.

Quote from: Assface16678 on November 17, 2019, 07:23:44 AM

I think Errol Spence Jr. needs more time for training and also much experience before the fight to the king of boxing. Base on the previous matches of Pacquiao, many boxers want to fight him, but still, no one can win against him. Even Mayweather uses different tactics to win against him, but because of the decision of the judge, Manny lose the match. Still, those are not enough for taking down Manny.

We don't see see some pictures of spence now, maybe let us not consider him yet as he might need much time to recover.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on September 29, 2019, 09:33:28 AM

After winning against shawn . Errol Spence Jr. said "i want Manny Pacquiao " on the interview . Are you guys still confident to put money on errol spence line?
For me in my own opinion its a big NO! Even this is not the right time to make a predictions. And perhaps no need at all ?Lol . Imagine that kid want to box the living legend Pacquiao? Oh my gosh it would be a next margarito vs Pacquiao for sure! Lol just saying because i am now not empress on his skill after fighting shawn. wherein they are totally the same what i mean no thrill like hide and seek behind their ears? Ops sorry errol spence fans because Pacquiao speed and power is very amazing and there's no way Errol Spence can place hes head under Pacquiao shoulders. Lol And it's like old man throwing a kid out on the ring. No offense guysl! Peace!

Many boxers think they are enough to fight Manny Pacquiao because they already gain popularity and the rank that to fight the one who is still conquering the world of boxing. I think Errol Spence Jr. needs more time for training and also much experience before the fight to the king of boxing. Base on the previous matches of Pacquiao, many boxers want to fight him, but still, no one can win against him. Even Mayweather uses different tactics to win against him, but because of the decision of the judge, Manny lose the match. Still, those are not enough for taking down Manny.

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Manny Pacquiao Looking at March or April Date For Return

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There are several possible options under the Premier Boxing Champions umbrella.

IBF, WBC welterweight champion Errol Spence is slated to return in the first half of the year after suffering injuries in an automobile accident.

There are also options like Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia, Yordenis Ugas, Shawn Porter and several others.

Pacquiao, who is a senator back home in the Philippines, is looking to return on a date in March or April, because the Senate will be in recess from March 14 to May 3.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-looking-march-april-date-return--144325

Maybe early next year we will see negotiations on the table as to who will Manny face early next year as it seems that the timetable for him to fight in 2020 has been set already. As per article, Roach says he prefer Danny Garcia, if Spence is not yet available. Danny Garcia is also dangerous and still at his prime, so if ever Manny settles with Danny, I'm OK with that because I know that it will also be exciting as the Thurman fights. And Danny pop's is good at selling fights as well because Angel Garcia is a thrash talker.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 06, 2019, 06:57:16 PM

Quote from: finaleshot2016 on November 06, 2019, 05:12:01 PM

Who says that Mayweather is better than Pacquiao? That fight is the reason why the people called Manny Pacquiao as the people's choice because he's good at it and dominated Mayweather.

Style makes a fight, that's a saying associated in boxing and whether we like it or not, Manny will be having a hard time against Floyd "Pretty Boy" Mayweather. He is not called Pretty Boy for nothing, if you followed his career and you are a fan of this sweet science to will be amaze of the defensive skills of Mayweather but it's not appreciated by a common fans as they thought that a "Mayweather fight" is lacking in action and somewhat boring while it's the opposite when Manny fights.

When the rematch takes place, my heart is with the Pacman while my money is on Floyd. Bet smart bro.

It might be taken for granted by most boxing fans as most of them wants to see aggressive fighters who can dominate the whole fight but not
those defensive tacticians who are good in balancing the whole game. We can't deny the fact that this two fighters have their own style and
own identity to keep their fans to love them to the extend that placing them as the number one fighter according to their own options.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on November 06, 2019, 05:12:01 PM

Who says that Mayweather is better than Pacquiao? That fight is the reason why the people called Manny Pacquiao as the people's choice because he's good at it and dominated Mayweather.

Style makes a fight, that's a saying associated in boxing and whether we like it or not, Manny will be having a hard time against Floyd "Pretty Boy" Mayweather. He is not called Pretty Boy for nothing, if you followed his career and you are a fan of this sweet science to will be amaze of the defensive skills of Mayweather but it's not appreciated by a common fans as they thought that a "Mayweather fight" is lacking in action and somewhat boring while it's the opposite when Manny fights.

When the rematch takes place, my heart is with the Pacman while my money is on Floyd. Bet smart bro.

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Quote from: TGD on November 04, 2019, 05:55:04 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on November 04, 2019, 05:24:44 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 03, 2019, 06:19:15 PM

A rematch for Mayweather and Manny would be interesting because their past fight is not really intense and entertaining. But just like what you said team Mayweather opted to not have a rematch, maybe because they want to left the history that Mayweather defeated Manny and dont want the latter to regain his status.

Probably but Mayweather is a better fighter than Manny, so there is nothing to be afraid of.

Gayweather is good on running and most probably well known for his notably style hit and run punch especially if he knew that his enemy strength is greater than him. He is a genius on Boxing because it has point system included on it and not only shear strength. His play style is the most boring style to watch. But I agree with you that he is great fighter but not better than Manny since I don't like his boxing style. Manny is a lot way better than him. We need a rematch to have closure on this discussion.

Yeah right, most of the rounds, mayweather spent a lot of time running and avoiding punches because he's a defending champion but that's a cheap move. Who says that Mayweather is better than Pacquiao? That fight is the reason why the people called Manny Pacquiao as the people's choice because he's good at it and dominated Mayweather.

I'd like to see another match of them to prove who's really the strongest, i'll bet for Pacman.

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Quote from: TGD on November 04, 2019, 05:55:04 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on November 04, 2019, 05:24:44 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 03, 2019, 06:19:15 PM

A rematch for Mayweather and Manny would be interesting because their past fight is not really intense and entertaining. But just like what you said team Mayweather opted to not have a rematch, maybe because they want to left the history that Mayweather defeated Manny and dont want the latter to regain his status.

Probably but Mayweather is a better fighter than Manny, so there is nothing to be afraid of.

Gayweather is good on running and most probably well known for his notably style hit and run punch especially if he knew that his enemy strength is greater than him. He is a genius on Boxing because it has point system included on it and not only shear strength. His play style is the most boring style to watch. But I agree with you that he is great fighter but not better than Manny since I don't like his boxing style. Manny is a lot way better than him. We need a rematch to have closure on this discussion.

We can all tell who is our favorite player between the two and we will think our favorite player is the best.
In this thread, I believe majority here are Manny's fans so we will think that its Manny who is the better fighter but in their first fight it doesn't say so.
So okay, let's see this rematch will happen and Manny won, does it mean Manny is the better fighter, I would say now because they just split, so possibly there will be a 3rd and final fight that will happen, and you know what, these two boxers will surely make a lot of money because of that.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 04, 2019, 05:24:44 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 03, 2019, 06:19:15 PM

A rematch for Mayweather and Manny would be interesting because their past fight is not really intense and entertaining. But just like what you said team Mayweather opted to not have a rematch, maybe because they want to left the history that Mayweather defeated Manny and dont want the latter to regain his status.

Probably but Mayweather is a better fighter than Manny, so there is nothing to be afraid of.

Gayweather is good on running and most probably well known for his notably style hit and run punch especially if he knew that his enemy strength is greater than him. He is a genius on Boxing because it has point system included on it and not only shear strength. His play style is the most boring style to watch. But I agree with you that he is great fighter but not better than Manny since I don't like his boxing style. Manny is a lot way better than him. We need a rematch to have closure on this discussion.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 04, 2019, 05:24:44 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on November 03, 2019, 06:19:15 PM

A rematch for Mayweather and Manny would be interesting because their past fight is not really intense and entertaining. But just like what you said team Mayweather opted to not have a rematch, maybe because they want to left the history that Mayweather defeated Manny and dont want the latter to regain his status.

Probably but Mayweather is a better fighter than Manny, so there is nothing to be afraid of.
I think he just want more money so this fight until now is still not happening, getting the biggest payout in his career is probably his target here.

maybe that time he will know who Jack Ma is, because he will become a billionaire then, in usd.

Maybe Mayweather is a better fighter than Pacquiao but it still is a contested debate until now and it depends on whom you will asked about it.

I remember people airing their disappoint on social media after their first fight and most spectators aren't contented on Mayweather's boxing since they were expecting a very good and entertaining slugfest between the two boxers but it never happened, thanks to Mayweathers strategy.

Until now I can say Mayweather is hesitant to fight Pacquiao again because he is definitely afraid to lose and that he will avoid such encounter as possibly as he can because he is also afraid that he might become a laughingstock in boxing world if he indeed suffer a lose to Pacquiao.

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Quote from: lienfaye on November 03, 2019, 06:19:15 PM

A rematch for Mayweather and Manny would be interesting because their past fight is not really intense and entertaining. But just like what you said team Mayweather opted to not have a rematch, maybe because they want to left the history that Mayweather defeated Manny and dont want the latter to regain his status.

Probably but Mayweather is a better fighter than Manny, so there is nothing to be afraid of.
I think he just want more money so this fight until now is still not happening, getting the biggest payout in his career is probably his target here.

maybe that time he will know who Jack Ma is, because he will become a billionaire then, in usd.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 03, 2019, 04:19:27 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on November 03, 2019, 04:08:56 PM

I'm sorry to say that but I don't think this fight will ever happen. Manny can't take the risk to get hurted or even to lose a fight before his match against Mayweather. And after it he won't have any interest to fight against someone else, he will end his career.

Why not if he wanted to fight. As far as I remember the CEO of Mayweather announced that they will not fight against Pacquiao and also he wanted to resign on his boxing career. I don't know if that is an excuse or whatever might be he afraid to fight Manny Pacquaio. Word boxing champion Manny Pacquiao is getting old probably 2-3 years he will resign too from his Boxing career and probably he might focus on being a senator of his country and also have time to his PACTOKEN. Cheesy

A rematch for Mayweather and Manny would be interesting because their past fight is not really intense and entertaining. But just like what you said team Mayweather opted to not have a rematch, maybe because they want to left the history that Mayweather defeated Manny and dont want the latter to regain his status.

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Quote from: Natalim on November 03, 2019, 06:02:01 PM

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 06:38:38 AM

For spence to be able to beat Manny, he should not be aggressive in the first 6 rounds of the fight since that's where Manny is very effective, he should keep the game longer and he will just be aggressive once Manny will be gas out.

I'm sure the team of Pacman know that too and they will make an adjustment about it. I know Pacman is a versatile fighter, he can change quickly his pace once he knows his weakness. I've seen it on his fight with Mayweather, despite of having an injury he still could hurt Mayweather during that time. So I'm sure he will gonna do it for Spence too.

The injury was just an excuse, he could have announce it prior to the match, it was just putting bettors into the hole expecting Manny could win but he can't due to his shoulder injury. Next time, it's wise not to bet on this two if they will fight, just enjoy as we don't know who will win and what excuses they going to throw after the fight.

Well, as far as I know it is not an excuse since he left his coach after that—that means he's like being played by the promoter and his coach. How come someone who's always going to church would lie to the public because he lost since he's too weak? That doesn't make sense. And AFAIK a lot of bettors was disappointed with the final result not because Pacman did not do anything to win but with the judges favouring on Mayweather's side.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 06:38:38 AM

For spence to be able to beat Manny, he should not be aggressive in the first 6 rounds of the fight since that's where Manny is very effective, he should keep the game longer and he will just be aggressive once Manny will be gas out.

I'm sure the team of Pacman know that too and they will make an adjustment about it. I know Pacman is a versatile fighter, he can change quickly his pace once he knows his weakness. I've seen it on his fight with Mayweather, despite of having an injury he still could hurt Mayweather during that time. So I'm sure he will gonna do it for Spence too.

The injury was just an excuse, he could have announce it prior to the match, it was just putting bettors into the hole expecting Manny could win but he can't due to his shoulder injury. Next time, it's wise not to bet on this two if they will fight, just enjoy as we don't know who will win and what excuses they going to throw after the fight.

Not really exciting to see Manny and Mayweather on the ring again. Not Mayweather could attract more boxing fans but rather see the disappointment, it only Manny makes more excitements. If wherein with the camp of Manny, better to decline to this offer cause it is something a business can't be done again and there is a huge possibility that Mayweather would still win (pretty obvious), not just because of Manny's injury but also Mayweather is clever enough.

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Quote from: Oceat on November 03, 2019, 05:17:26 PM

Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 06:38:38 AM

For spence to be able to beat Manny, he should not be aggressive in the first 6 rounds of the fight since that's where Manny is very effective, he should keep the game longer and he will just be aggressive once Manny will be gas out.

I'm sure the team of Pacman know that too and they will make an adjustment about it. I know Pacman is a versatile fighter, he can change quickly his pace once he knows his weakness. I've seen it on his fight with Mayweather, despite of having an injury he still could hurt Mayweather during that time. So I'm sure he will gonna do it for Spence too.

The injury was just an excuse, he could have announce it prior to the match, it was just putting bettors into the hole expecting Manny could win but he can't due to his shoulder injury. Next time, it's wise not to bet on this two if they will fight, just enjoy as we don't know who will win and what excuses they going to throw after the fight.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 03, 2019, 04:19:27 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on November 03, 2019, 04:08:56 PM

I'm sorry to say that but I don't think this fight will ever happen. Manny can't take the risk to get hurted or even to lose a fight before his match against Mayweather. And after it he won't have any interest to fight against someone else, he will end his career.

Why not if he wanted to fight. As far as I remember the CEO of Mayweather announced that they will not fight against Pacquiao and also he wanted to resign on his boxing career. I don't know if that is an excuse or whatever might be he afraid to fight Manny Pacquaio. Word boxing champion Manny Pacquiao is getting old probably 2-3 years he will resign too from his Boxing career and probably he might focus on being a senator of his country and also have time to his PACTOKEN. Cheesy

I'm really surprised about that. Mayweather was the first one to provokes Pacman and ask for a new fight, he even insulted him in july on Instagram. You could read what he said : "I find it real ironic how every time Pacquiao's name is brought up in the media, my name is always attached to it.
This man's entire legacy and career has been built off its association with my name and it's about time you all stop using my brand for clout chasing and clickbait and let that man's name hold weight of its own. For years, all you heard was that " Floyd is afraid of Manny Pacquiao". But what's funny is, when we finally fought, I won so easily that everyone had to eat their words! All of the so called boxing experts, critics and jealous American "fan base" either went mute and ran for cover or made every excuse in the world as to why I should give Manny Pacquiao a rematch. My take on all this bullshit is that y’all are just upset that I broke Rocky Marciano's record and hate the fact that a Black, high school dropout outsmarted you all by beating all odds and retiring undefeated while maintaining all my faculties simply by making smart choices and even smarter investments. Ultimately, I will always have the last laugh!"

"Let's stick to the facts! Bob Arum is no longer your promoter, so when it comes to @mayweatherpromotions & PBC events I’m the HNIC!
Bottom line, I make more money than you; I beat you, then I signed you! I was only at your fight supervising you, my employee, as any real BOSS would do. You made $10Million for 12 rounds, when I just made $9M in under 3 minutes playing around in an exhibition with a pizza delivery guy! I beat you mentally, physically and financially!
Remember, you fight cause you have to, I fight when I want to!"

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 06:38:38 AM

For spence to be able to beat Manny, he should not be aggressive in the first 6 rounds of the fight since that's where Manny is very effective, he should keep the game longer and he will just be aggressive once Manny will be gas out.

I'm sure the team of Pacman know that too and they will make an adjustment about it. I know Pacman is a versatile fighter, he can change quickly his pace once he knows his weakness. I've seen it on his fight with Mayweather, despite of having an injury he still could hurt Mayweather during that time. So I'm sure he will gonna do it for Spence too.

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