Errol Spence Jr. Vs Manny Pacquiao - page 3.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on November 03, 2019, 05:08:56 PM

I'm sorry to say that but I don't think this fight will ever happen. Manny can't take the risk to get hurted or even to lose a fight before his match against Mayweather. And after it he won't have any interest to fight against someone else, he will end his career.

Why not if he wanted to fight. As far as I remember the CEO of Mayweather announced that they will not fight against Pacquiao and also he wanted to resign on his boxing career. I don't know if that is an excuse or whatever might be he afraid to fight Manny Pacquaio. Word boxing champion Manny Pacquiao is getting old probably 2-3 years he will resign too from his Boxing career and probably he might focus on being a senator of his country and also have time to his PACTOKEN. Cheesy

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After winning against shawn . Errol Spence Jr. said "i want Manny Pacquiao " on the interview . Are you guys still confident to put money on errol spence line?
For me in my own opinion its a big NO! Even this is not the right time to make a predictions. And perhaps no need at all ?Lol . Imagine that kid want to box the living legend Pacquiao? Oh my gosh it would be a next margarito vs Pacquiao for sure! Lol just saying because i am now not empress on his skill after fighting shawn. wherein they are totally the same what i mean no thrill like hide and seek behind their ears? Ops sorry errol spence fans because Pacquiao speed and power is very amazing and there's no way Errol Spence can place hes head under Pacquiao shoulders. Lol And it's like old man throwing a kid out on the ring. No offense guysl! Peace!

Although its too early to comment but if this fight really happens, i would support the people's man the old man Pacquiao. Pacman has the right experience to push till the end or simply KO the young champ. Looking at the last fights of PACMAN, the old guy still looks strong but nevertheless lets not underestimate the young guy, Spence as he too would have eyes on the prize money but little chances of he be able to use age as his strength against PACMAN

I'm sorry to say that but I don't think this fight will ever happen. Manny can't take the risk to get hurted or even to lose a fight before his match against Mayweather. And after it he won't have any interest to fight against someone else, he will end his career.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 07:38:38 AM

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So, Spence will be more careful than Thurman while fighting Pacquiao.

Spence team are surely studying the recent moves of Manny and they are aware that there is no room for mistake if you are fighting Manny.
I have a little strategy which I want to share,...

For spence to be able to beat Manny, he should not be aggressive in the first 6 rounds of the fight since that's where Manny is very effective, he should keep the game longer and he will just be aggressive once Manny will be gas out.

I saw that weakness on Thurman fight, Manny almost lose since he was hit more in the 2nd half of the match.

Spence is like 3 inches taller than Manny and he also has the power to knock people out. Spence is also the younger fighter. Manny is not good defensively, his defense is his offense. You cannot allow Manny to set-up his combinations unless you are a defensive genius like Floyd Mayweather Jr. or a counter-puncher specialist like Juan Manuel Marquez. Erik Morales was the bigger guy and was aggressive and Manny was having a hard time fighting on back pedal. Morales gassed in the last rounds as he was having weight problems at super-featherweight but was able to beat Manny convincingly. The rematches were different stories though as Morales continued to grow bigger and Manny's camp never allowed him to a catchweight fight. I just think Spence can do what Morales did especially to an old version of Manny.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 03, 2019, 04:15:55 AM

So, Spence will be more careful than Thurman while fighting Pacquiao.

Spence team are surely studying the recent moves of Manny and they are aware that there is no room for mistake if you are fighting Manny.
I have a little strategy which I want to share,...

For spence to be able to beat Manny, he should not be aggressive in the first 6 rounds of the fight since that's where Manny is very effective, he should keep the game longer and he will just be aggressive once Manny will be gas out.

I saw that weakness on Thurman fight, Manny almost lose since he was hit more in the 2nd half of the match.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 03, 2019, 02:34:51 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 03, 2019, 12:05:06 AM

I don't think Pacquiao can knock down Spence since he saw Thurman under estimating him and went down to the canvass.

Thurman was a tough opponent, he is a great champion with real skills in boxing, but he was knock down by Pacquiao, so I don't see any reason Spence will not be knock down if he will be hit by Manny's hard punch, maybe if he will change his style from being aggressive to runner, then Pacquiao would surely not gonna knock him out.

I know Thurman is a tough opponent, his skills in boxing are matched with Spence. I personally even doubt Thurman is a much tougher opponent than Spence. What I meant with my statement is that, Spence is already aware that Pacquiao is not washed yet , and can knock down any opponents when giving opportunity. So, Spence will be more careful than Thurman while fighting Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 03, 2019, 12:05:06 AM

I don't think Pacquiao can knock down Spence since he saw Thurman under estimating him and went down to the canvass.

Thurman was a tough opponent, he is a great champion with real skills in boxing, but he was knock down by Pacquiao, so I don't see any reason Spence will not be knock down if he will be hit by Manny's hard punch, maybe if he will change his style from being aggressive to runner, then Pacquiao would surely not gonna knock him out.

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 02, 2019, 08:00:56 PM

And that one punch chance the complexion of that fight.

But as far as Spence Jr vs Pacquiao, it could be totally different though as Spence is very tall and Pacquiao could lunge just to get his punch inside. But I wanted to see Pacquiao testing Spence chin though, it hasn't been tested that why this fight is very intriguing to me.

I mean if Pacquaio can knock down a prime Thurman, can he do it to Spence as well? And taking into consideration that Manny is no longer at his best today?

Prime Pacquiao has no problem with tall opponents. Take Margarito as an example. But, right now with Pacquiao's age he will be having a hard time winning any opponents on their prime, yet he still have a slight edge over the younger generation boxer today. Experience wise.

I don't think Pacquiao can knock down Spence since he saw Thurman under estimating him and went down to the canvass.

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Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

It's because Manny Pacquio is a gifted boxer, plus he also trains very hard that's why he can still compete at this level even at his age. I remember one interview of Vince Carter on how his longevity in basketball, his reply that he really take care of his body.

So that is the secret here, learn to listen to your body. But it doesn't mean that they are still in their prime though, Manny can fight high level boxing, but he is no longer at his prime, let's face that fact.

I agree that he is not already in his prime, I just said he looks like he is on his prime because he defeated Thurman and even knock him down.
Thurman was undefeated and was never knock down once in his career, so that punch that hit him has a lot of power that only a person which is known as heavy puncher can do that, Manny looks younger when they fought, that's why I see, but that's just one fight though.

And that one punch chance the complexion of that fight.

But as far as Spence Jr vs Pacquiao, it could be totally different though as Spence is very tall and Pacquiao could lunge just to get his punch inside. But I wanted to see Pacquiao testing Spence chin though, it hasn't been tested that why this fight is very intriguing to me.

I mean if Pacquaio can knock down a prime Thurman, can he do it to Spence as well? And taking into consideration that Manny is no longer at his best today?

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Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

It's because Manny Pacquio is a gifted boxer, plus he also trains very hard that's why he can still compete at this level even at his age. I remember one interview of Vince Carter on how his longevity in basketball, his reply that he really take care of his body.

So that is the secret here, learn to listen to your body. But it doesn't mean that they are still in their prime though, Manny can fight high level boxing, but he is no longer at his prime, let's face that fact.

I agree that he is not already in his prime, I just said he looks like he is on his prime because he defeated Thurman and even knock him down.
Thurman was undefeated and was never knock down once in his career, so that punch that hit him has a lot of power that only a person which is known as heavy puncher can do that, Manny looks younger when they fought, that's why I see, but that's just one fight though.

His discipline on this sport is really commendable. If he doesn't have that, I don't know where he is now. But it is really amusing that we can't stop talking the possible upcoming fights of Pacquiao. His name still ring a bell among the boxing fans. I am curious what will happen for his next fight though...

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Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

It's because Manny Pacquio is a gifted boxer, plus he also trains very hard that's why he can still compete at this level even at his age. I remember one interview of Vince Carter on how his longevity in basketball, his reply that he really take care of his body.

So that is the secret here, learn to listen to your body. But it doesn't mean that they are still in their prime though, Manny can fight high level boxing, but he is no longer at his prime, let's face that fact.

I agree that he is not already in his prime, I just said he looks like he is on his prime because he defeated Thurman and even knock him down.
Thurman was undefeated and was never knock down once in his career, so that punch that hit him has a lot of power that only a person which is known as heavy puncher can do that, Manny looks younger when they fought, that's why I see, but that's just one fight though.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2019, 06:13:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoin31 on November 01, 2019, 06:03:33 AM

Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

It's because Manny Pacquio is a gifted boxer, plus he also trains very hard that's why he can still compete at this level even at his age. I remember one interview of Vince Carter on how his longevity in basketball, his reply that he really take care of his body.

So that is the secret here, learn to listen to your body. But it doesn't mean that they are still in their prime though, Manny can fight high level boxing, but he is no longer at his prime, let's face that fact.

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Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

Manny is very far from his prime bro, he was just so amazing back then. The reckless, one-handed Manny of old could overwhelm anyone of his weight.

Now, he is a more cautious boxer which a good development to avoid another tragedy like that Marquez lucky punch.

That makes him special, he knows how to adjust, he is still aggressive but not as aggressive as when he was still young.
Despite that, its still entertaining to watch him fight especially if his opponent is ready to fight toe to toe, and he should choose a fighter who is willing and I believe Spence is willing as he showed he can fight a street fight by defeating Shawn Porter.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2019, 06:13:59 AM

Quote from: bitcoin31 on November 01, 2019, 06:03:33 AM

Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

Manny is very far from his prime bro, he was just so amazing back then. The reckless, one-handed Manny of old could overwhelm anyone of his weight.

Now, he is a more cautious boxer which a good development to avoid another tragedy like that Marquez lucky punch.

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Quote from: bitcoin31 on November 01, 2019, 06:03:33 AM

Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

Manny is just exceptional, not every athlete can compete and win against a very young opponent but Manny prove he can that's why the fans loves him more. Some say he should retire but I don't think he would do that, he can still fight and just beat an undefeated boxer, it looks like he is back in his prime, so let's see what will happen to his next bout, hopefully its another entertaining fight.

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After winning against shawn . Errol Spence Jr. said "i want Manny Pacquiao " on the interview . Are you guys still confident to put money on errol spence line?
For me in my own opinion its a big NO! Even this is not the right time to make a predictions. And perhaps no need at all ?Lol . Imagine that kid want to box the living legend Pacquiao? Oh my gosh it would be a next margarito vs Pacquiao for sure! Lol just saying because i am now not empress on his skill after fighting shawn. wherein they are totally the same what i mean no thrill like hide and seek behind their ears? Ops sorry errol spence fans because Pacquiao speed and power is very amazing and there's no way Errol Spence can place hes head under Pacquiao shoulders. Lol And it's like old man throwing a kid out on the ring. No offense guysl! Peace!

Although its too early to comment but if this fight really happens, i would support the people's man the old man Pacquiao. Pacman has the right experience to push till the end or simply KO the young champ. Looking at the last fights of PACMAN, the old guy still looks strong but nevertheless lets not underestimate the young guy, Spence as he too would have eyes on the prize money but little chances of he be able to use age as his strength against PACMAN

Age doesn't matter as long as he can do what ever before, But we know Manny is strong until kow but not just like before he is so much stronger and one of the best boxer in the history of boxing and even his old Im still with him and I believe in him that once it happen this fight Manny can win and possible or high chance Errrol spence jr will Knock out because even he is younger than Manny it is not base on that.

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So there's no excitement at all, and I think Manny is not serious to fight him again if he will do an exhibition rather than a face to face fight.

It's not what the public are thinking, if the rematch will happen, I am sure both fighters will again enjoy their big paycheck, probably the purse is bigger than the previous fight. We were so disappointed in the first fight as we are expecting a good fight, but it ended up a boring fight and Manny our favorite loss against Mayweather which a lot of people still disagrees with the decision until now.

I agreed with wht you said because the previous fight between the two (Manny and Mayweather) dont have the burning flame as expected which was the reason why I also believed is somehow not about the fight but the fight but the money involved and I'm sure almost all Mayweather fans like myself we agree that if the money is not good Mayweather wont fight him.

It's all about the greediness of Mayweather, if they will fight they will get the biggest payout compared to other boxing that are still active right now but maybe he wants more, for sure he will not avoid Manny since he beat him last time with a very convincing win per judges scorecard.

Not just the greed of Mayweather, but the whole boxing organization. I can see Manny is pushing this to happen for a redemption purposes, but aside from him the whole organization including the Mayweather team is just after for the massive payouts.
That's why I will always gonna tell this, It's not going to be an entertaining match. Instead, why wont we look at the other way, there are a lot of best boxers in the world and they are all on their prime.

Because this boxing match really wants to happen, Mayweather wants to pay big, including all the other organizations, they don't want to fight with others despite being at the top, but Mayweather and Manny are prestigious matches with big pay.

The fans want it to happen and Manny either there's no genuine proof that the fight will happen.
Oasisman, I supported what you said because the two fighters and their camp are both greeds. I believe you guys will agree that Manny was not 100% in his best when the fight took place and why would he still get on it if not for the money involved.
All this was a little off-topic. Errol Spence Jr confidence won't make him a better opponent for Manny

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Quote from: Ararbermas on September 29, 2019, 10:33:28 AM

After winning against shawn . Errol Spence Jr. said "i want Manny Pacquiao " on the interview . Are you guys still confident to put money on errol spence line?
For me in my own opinion its a big NO! Even this is not the right time to make a predictions. And perhaps no need at all ?Lol . Imagine that kid want to box the living legend Pacquiao? Oh my gosh it would be a next margarito vs Pacquiao for sure! Lol just saying because i am now not empress on his skill after fighting shawn. wherein they are totally the same what i mean no thrill like hide and seek behind their ears? Ops sorry errol spence fans because Pacquiao speed and power is very amazing and there's no way Errol Spence can place hes head under Pacquiao shoulders. Lol And it's like old man throwing a kid out on the ring. No offense guysl! Peace!

Although its too early to comment but if this fight really happens, i would support the people's man the old man Pacquiao. Pacman has the right experience to push till the end or simply KO the young champ. Looking at the last fights of PACMAN, the old guy still looks strong but nevertheless lets not underestimate the young guy, Spence as he too would have eyes on the prize money but little chances of he be able to use age as his strength against PACMAN

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Quote from: Natalim on October 31, 2019, 07:26:15 PM

Quote from: stadus on October 31, 2019, 07:18:51 AM

We can't prejudge it, yes the first fight was boring, but let's hope this rematch is different.

It will only get better if its going to be a close fight and Manny winning at the end, if its still the same that Mayweather are dictating the fight through his running, hitting, and hugging, it would still the same with the first fight and the same disappointment by the fans, let's that Manny being fully healthy now would increase his chance of winning the fight, then people would say its the best fight in boxing because Mayweather loss.

Lol, style makes a fight, that the saying in the boxing world. I may hate to say this but the style of Mayweather won't change because he won the first match via that strategy. I'm a fan of Manny but if this fight would push through i have my money on Mayweather. They both are not in their prime now but for me Mayweather is still a fresh fighter between the two as Floyd is more of a defensive fighter while Manny is an offensive oriented fighter.

Bottomline, this fight is just a money generator for the two boxers. Entertaining or not, Floyd doesn't care as long as cash is flowing into his account.

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Quote from: stadus on October 31, 2019, 07:18:51 AM

We can't prejudge it, yes the first fight was boring, but let's hope this rematch is different.

It will only get better if its going to be a close fight and Manny winning at the end, if its still the same that Mayweather are dictating the fight through his running, hitting, and hugging, it would still the same with the first fight and the same disappointment by the fans, let's that Manny being fully healthy now would increase his chance of winning the fight, then people would say its the best fight in boxing because Mayweather loss.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 30, 2019, 10:23:25 PM

Not just the greed of Mayweather, but the whole boxing organization.

Mayweather still has the final say if he wants a rematch or not, even if the whole organization likes to happen but if he demands a big purse, it will be impossible to take place.

Quote from: Oasisman on October 30, 2019, 10:23:25 PM

I can see Manny is pushing this to happen for a redemption purposes, but aside from him the whole organization including the Mayweather team is just after for the massive payouts.

Redemption and Money, otherwise, he could have already give a rematch to Horn when he lose that fight, for a boxer, their main intention is to make money and that is why they want a big fight all the time.

Quote from: Oasisman on October 30, 2019, 10:23:25 PM

That's why I will always gonna tell this, It's not going to be an entertaining match. Instead, why wont we look at the other way, there are a lot of best boxers in the world and they are all on their prime.

We can't prejudge it, yes the first fight was boring, but let's hope this rematch is different.

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