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Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet - page 101. (Read 966173 times)

donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
I just realized that the case still being discussed after two years of development.
legendary
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CEO Bitpanda.com
That is actually the protective sticker still on. Only thing broken is the plastic piece
hero member
Activity: 692
Merit: 500
https://i.imgur.com/4wepfqO.jpg
Not sure what to do really. I really can't justify buying a new one really.

The front she'll looks like it is disintegrating. I would contact support for an RMA.
hero member
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Plastics vary a lot in strength.  It seems worth requesting a tougher type of plastic from the case maker.  For such a small object, the extra cost should be small too.
legendary
Activity: 1680
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CEO Bitpanda.com
Now I have no idea how to keep the trezor with me all the time Sad

That little plastic bit where the cord wraps around seems pretty sturdy. Im sure you can think of something to interface with that.

That is the liitle hook that I was talking about earlier. That thing broke too. Now I can't attach anything to my trezor anymore Sad

I could post a pic when I come home.



Not sure what to do really. I really can't justify buying a new one really.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
Now I have no idea how to keep the trezor with me all the time Sad

That little plastic bit where the cord wraps around seems pretty sturdy. Im sure you can think of something to interface with that.

a zip tie?
full member
Activity: 162
Merit: 109
I see now the seriously bug

Have you reported it alredy to TREZOR support? If not, please do.
Next line in quoted by you message tells that i reported Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1001
CEO Bitpanda.com
Now I have no idea how to keep the trezor with me all the time Sad

That little plastic bit where the cord wraps around seems pretty sturdy. Im sure you can think of something to interface with that.

That is the liitle hook that I was talking about earlier. That thing broke too. Now I can't attach anything to my trezor anymore Sad

I could post a pic when I come home.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Now I have no idea how to keep the trezor with me all the time Sad

That little plastic bit where the cord wraps around seems pretty sturdy. Im sure you can think of something to interface with that.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1001
CEO Bitpanda.com
I nearly forgot:

PSA: Don't trust the little band on the trezor and the little hook, that holds the band. IT WILL TEAR and then you can potentially lose your trezor. I had my trezor on my keyband and first the connection from the black band to the metal tear, and then a week later the little hook, where the band is connected to the trezor broke off completely.

Now I have no idea how to keep the trezor with me all the time Sad
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
I'm sorry, but I am not following/understanding your comments. I'm very intrigued to understand how you are integrating Trezor for signing and proving a document existence.  Can you walk through a specific example (step by step) for my beginner mind?

Thanks!

rambling on:

imagine two documents, one is description of what you are about to prove. this will be signed by trezor and will have no footprint in the blockchain. but i consider it a nice to have, since it explains to someone not familiar with "proof of existence" how the second document is special. there is no other integration of trezor. the examiner can just read a howto prove a document existence and verify it's signed with a key corresponding to an address which balance would be used for the actual proof.  

i think you got it right. trezor does not help here. i just find it neat to sign digital things and verifying the signature. the proof of existence can not be done this way.
sr. member
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Mr. Slush, Mr. Stick, and Satoshi Labs. I'm interested in a discount for bulk quantities. Sort of like a Group Buy. Actually, it is for a potential Group Buy. I'd only want a few personally, but I can see hundreds of others wanting their own.

Please contact [email protected]. Thanks!
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
Mr. Slush, Mr. Stick, and Satoshi Labs. I'm interested in a discount for bulk quantities. Sort of like a Group Buy. Actually, it is for a potential Group Buy. I'd only want a few personally, but I can see hundreds of others wanting their own.
The problem is most tin-foil hatters would want their Trezor shipped directly to them from Satoshilabs. For those wanting a group buy discount, 3 days mining on slush's beta qualifies for 33.6% off.

If my "Group Buy" is officially endorsed by the manufacturer, then it can be arranged that the units will ship directly to the end buyers. I am of course, looking for a price point better than $79.
hero member
Activity: 692
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Mr. Slush, Mr. Stick, and Satoshi Labs. I'm interested in a discount for bulk quantities. Sort of like a Group Buy. Actually, it is for a potential Group Buy. I'd only want a few personally, but I can see hundreds of others wanting their own.
The problem is most tin-foil hatters would want their Trezor shipped directly to them from Satoshilabs. For those wanting a group buy discount, 3 days mining on slush's beta qualifies for 33.6% off.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1912
The Concierge of Crypto
Mr. Slush, Mr. Stick, and Satoshi Labs. I'm interested in a discount for bulk quantities. Sort of like a Group Buy. Actually, it is for a potential Group Buy. I'd only want a few personally, but I can see hundreds of others wanting their own.
jr. member
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I appreciate your thoughts and nod, nod and agree. you solved the pruning risk elegantly (keeping a copy of the block which contains my proof of existence tx), argument about keeping the document so why not bundle it with support data, it all makes perfect sense and I will adopt it in my argumentation as viable options of doing things.

as for keeping the document secret, that is ok 'cause my use case is about testaments and using rather higher fee but satoshi tokens for the stamping. now it can be reversed, using old coins, zero fees and spending them afterwards as usual.

how trezor fits here nicely is to sign message that describes the signing/timestamping with an address that would be used to actually timestamp a document. so that it all can be verfied in one eintopf of documents and signatures that are loosely related but can reveal much more info if the right off-blockchain data is added to it and is examined.

I'm sorry, but I am not following/understanding your comments. I'm very intrigued to understand how you are integrating Trezor for signing and proving a document existence.  Can you walk through a specific example (step by step) for my beginner mind?

Thanks!
cor
full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 100
can you please look into my question about a bulk oder? I'm waiting for more than a week now.

Are you referring to a question posted here or to our support? Please let me know via private message which email address you used in case you've contacted us via support. I'll have a look. 
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 268
I see now the seriously bug

Have you reported it alredy to TREZOR support? If not, please do.
full member
Activity: 162
Merit: 109
I see now the seriously bug
I already reported to team of Trezor
The site MyTrezor.com generates same receive addresses for accounts.
I don't know - it's only my bug or not but i see it in two accounts.
After getting coins to new address i see new address as previously generated address as receive address.
It happens after Path: m/44'/0'/1'/0/74 for example.
May be affected all wallets.
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
If you happen to be a fellow Slush Pool miner, there's a unique discount waiting for you.   Kiss

http://satoshilabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/SlushPool_Trezor.png

 Now you tell me! After I already bought 3 for full price. Been on Slush pool over 3 years

you and me, we both ...

To prove your pdf existed, I would go a similar route as you took: I would hash the doc, convert the private key to an address and verify that the address has received money in the past. ...
Please note: you should move the money from that address. Anyone with the document can access it.
Excellent! Thanks.

you should not move all money from that address as the bitcoin paper describes pruning of transactions from blockchain for empty addresses. if you need your proof to be preserved longterm this is a risk to be aware of

This is a valid concern and I've thought about that: I think it's save to remove the money. There will most likely always be a complete transaction history available and it's good practice to keep the unspent transaction output set as clean (small) as possible because it has to be accessed quickly by servers/wallets.

Also: you'll have to keep the document itself anyways. So why not keep the block with the relevant tx in it along with it?

EDIT: another minor point: If you're concerned of losing the ability to prove existence due to the money being removed from the address, you would also have to keep your document secret to avoid someone else removing the money.

EDIT2: sorry for all the offtopic babble.

+1 apology for being off (trezor) topic here
I appreciate your thoughts and nod, nod and agree. you solved the pruning risk elegantly (keeping a copy of the block which contains my proof of existence tx), argument about keeping the document so why not bundle it with support data, it all makes perfect sense and I will adopt it in my argumentation as viable options of doing things.

as for keeping the document secret, that is ok 'cause my use case is about testaments and using rather higher fee but satoshi tokens for the stamping. now it can be reversed, using old coins, zero fees and spending them afterwards as usual.

how trezor fits here nicely is to sign message that describes the signing/timestamping with an address that would be used to actually timestamp a document. so that it all can be verfied in one eintopf of documents and signatures that are loosely related but can reveal much more info if the right off-blockchain data is added to it and is examined.

sorry for my rambling. i'm just very excited atm, been working on and off on probative value of electronic documents for a couple of years now and you just stimulated an are of my brain in an unexpected way
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