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newbie
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Updating firmware is not a concern. Your 24 word seed is your bitcoin; you can step on your Trezor or Ledger and destroy it, and restore your seed to a new one in 10 minutes. Back in business. You should be eager to update; firmware needs to be updated to incorporate new coins, new features. Case had a popular hardware wallet a year ago that is worthless now because they never updated firmware to adjust fees.


Thank you for the reminder, I forget some of the basic ins-and-outs of Bitcoin.  Yeah, not being able to adjust fees is a big drawback.  I only have gotten to know just the parts of the Bitcoin Ecosystem that I actually use, the rest, ah no...  I am glad I have all seeds safely stored away.

I was always super hesitant to update firmwares too because with technology everything that can go wrong, always goes wrong with me.  I was forced to do it because my trezor screen all the sudden just went black and became unusable out of nowhere.  Of course my default feeling was that I probably wrote the seed down wrong or something like that.

When you are using a hardware wallet your seed is your bitcoin and you need to get comfortable with wiping your hardware wallet and restoring from seed so you can prove to yourself that there is no danger to firmware updates. You really do want to be on the latest firmware whatever your choice of wallet.

This.

I would recommend sending a small change on the TREZOR first when you set it up. Then wipe the device and restore using Advanced Recovery method (the safest method). If you have successfully recovered your TREZOR with some coins on it, then you will know for sure that the seed is correct.

Firmware updates do not wipe the device, unless the update went wrong (you have to redo the update) or the firmware is unofficial (device wipes itself). It is important to stay up to date, but we do not force anyone to update unless it's a security update. Knowing the seed works is a good reassurance and let's you stay updated regularly.
legendary
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Updating firmware is not a concern. Your 24 word seed is your bitcoin; you can step on your Trezor or Ledger and destroy it, and restore your seed to a new one in 10 minutes. Back in business. You should be eager to update; firmware needs to be updated to incorporate new coins, new features. Case had a popular hardware wallet a year ago that is worthless now because they never updated firmware to adjust fees.


Thank you for the reminder, I forget some of the basic ins-and-outs of Bitcoin.  Yeah, not being able to adjust fees is a big drawback.  I only have gotten to know just the parts of the Bitcoin Ecosystem that I actually use, the rest, ah no...  I am glad I have all seeds safely stored away.

I was always super hesitant to update firmwares too because with technology everything that can go wrong, always goes wrong with me.  I was forced to do it because my trezor screen all the sudden just went black and became unusable out of nowhere.  Of course my default feeling was that I probably wrote the seed down wrong or something like that.

When you are using a hardware wallet your seed is your bitcoin and you need to get comfortable with wiping your hardware wallet and restoring from seed so you can prove to yourself that there is no danger to firmware updates. You really do want to be on the latest firmware whatever your choice of wallet.
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
Updating firmware is not a concern. Your 24 word seed is your bitcoin; you can step on your Trezor or Ledger and destroy it, and restore your seed to a new one in 10 minutes. Back in business. You should be eager to update; firmware needs to be updated to incorporate new coins, new features. Case had a popular hardware wallet a year ago that is worthless now because they never updated firmware to adjust fees.


Thank you for the reminder, I forget some of the basic ins-and-outs of Bitcoin.  Yeah, not being able to adjust fees is a big drawback.  I only have gotten to know just the parts of the Bitcoin Ecosystem that I actually use, the rest, ah no...  I am glad I have all seeds safely stored away.

I was always super hesitant to update firmwares too because with technology everything that can go wrong, always goes wrong with me.  I was forced to do it because my trezor screen all the sudden just went black and became unusable out of nowhere.  Of course my default feeling was that I probably wrote the seed down wrong or something like that.
full member
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got this error from two different webmailers trying to send an email to [email protected].
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legendary
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Updating firmware is not a concern. Your 24 word seed is your bitcoin; you can step on your Trezor or Ledger and destroy it, and restore your seed to a new one in 10 minutes. Back in business. You should be eager to update; firmware needs to be updated to incorporate new coins, new features. Case had a popular hardware wallet a year ago that is worthless now because they never updated firmware to adjust fees.


Thank you for the reminder, I forget some of the basic ins-and-outs of Bitcoin.  Yeah, not being able to adjust fees is a big drawback.  I only have gotten to know just the parts of the Bitcoin Ecosystem that I actually use, the rest, ah no...  I am glad I have all seeds safely stored away.
legendary
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Updating firmware is not a concern. Your 24 word seed is your bitcoin; you can step on your Trezor or Ledger and destroy it, and restore your seed to a new one in 10 minutes. Back in business. You should be eager to update; firmware needs to be updated to incorporate new coins, new features. Case had a popular hardware wallet a year ago that is worthless now because they never updated firmware to adjust fees.
legendary
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Anyone have a good and simple how to for cold wallets? I want to buy one (maybe Trezor), but i never used something like this.
Any good articles or videos?


I'm just a plain ol' Joe, but I have used three hardware wallets: Trezor, Ledger Nano (older one) and the digitalbitbox.  Of the three, I like the digitalbitbox the best.  It seems stronger (tougher) than the other two, and I have not had to update any firmware (hopefully that won't happen) like I had to do with BOTH of the others.  Updating firmware is scary, at least for me.
legendary
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Update: there does seem to be a problem, I'm getting this js error when connecting to https://wallet.trezor.io

Code:
00:55:59.753 SyntaxError: in strict mode code, functions may be declared only at top level or immediately within another function1 app.fc2c4806f82bb84f5284.js:186227:19

and doesn't progress beyond displaying (non-rotating) gears and "Loading ... TREZOR Wallet is starting" message.


https://old-wallet.trezor.io/#/ still works, so it is not the browser or trezord, etc set-up.

... anyone else seeing this problem or just on my set-up?

No problem here but wallet.trezor.io seems to be having a problem with the bitcoinfees.21.co API; fees set way too high. Until Trezor fixes the issue probably a good idea to use Electrum instead.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo

Update: there does seem to be a problem, I'm getting this js error when connecting to https://wallet.trezor.io

Code:
00:55:59.753 SyntaxError: in strict mode code, functions may be declared only at top level or immediately within another function1 app.fc2c4806f82bb84f5284.js:186227:19

and doesn't progress beyond displaying (non-rotating) gears and "Loading ... TREZOR Wallet is starting" message.


https://old-wallet.trezor.io/#/ still works, so it is not the browser or trezord, etc set-up.

... anyone else seeing this problem or just on my set-up?
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 257
Can i send from trezor to another address that trezor provides.
Just a relocation of funds?

You will have to pay the transaction fee but of course you can do this.  Not exactly sure why you would want to do it.

Also, maybe this might help (from earlier in this thread):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18529944

Thanks, i did it. Even says sent to myself in description XD
I need it for linking byteball with btc.
As an aside:  to link to byteball it is better to use the signature option, then you do not have to move your BTC just link all the addresses that currently have BTC using the signature bot.  Also, the distribution already happened, right?  I do not know when the next byteball distribution will happen.  Do you?

I am doing it that way with signatures, it's just that i had some complications and i had t move them to be able to link them with signature on another byteball client with new address.
As 2weiX said, distribution is next full moon in june, but this time dividend is 20% on every byteball you hold plus 0.0625 GB per btc. It used to be 10%
You also get blackbytes, but i dont know what to do with them yet. Everybody is selling them cheap. Maybe it's time to accumulate.
legendary
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Can i send from trezor to another address that trezor provides.
Just a relocation of funds?

You will have to pay the transaction fee but of course you can do this.  Not exactly sure why you would want to do it.

Also, maybe this might help (from earlier in this thread):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18529944

Thanks, i did it. Even says sent to myself in description XD
I need it for linking byteball with btc.
As an aside:  to link to byteball it is better to use the signature option, then you do not have to move your BTC just link all the addresses that currently have BTC using the signature bot.  Also, the distribution already happened, right?  I do not know when the next byteball distribution will happen.  Do you?

every full moon, iirc (I kid you not).
legendary
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
Can i send from trezor to another address that trezor provides.
Just a relocation of funds?

You will have to pay the transaction fee but of course you can do this.  Not exactly sure why you would want to do it.

Also, maybe this might help (from earlier in this thread):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18529944

Thanks, i did it. Even says sent to myself in description XD
I need it for linking byteball with btc.
As an aside:  to link to byteball it is better to use the signature option, then you do not have to move your BTC just link all the addresses that currently have BTC using the signature bot.  Also, the distribution already happened, right?  I do not know when the next byteball distribution will happen.  Do you?
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 257
Can i send from trezor to another address that trezor provides.
Just a relocation of funds?

You will have to pay the transaction fee but of course you can do this.  Not exactly sure why you would want to do it.

Also, maybe this might help (from earlier in this thread):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18529944

Thanks, i did it. Even says sent to myself in description XD
I need it for linking byteball with btc.
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1137
All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
Can i send from trezor to another address that trezor provides.
Just a relocation of funds?

You will have to pay the transaction fee but of course you can do this.  Not exactly sure why you would want to do it.

Also, maybe this might help (from earlier in this thread):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18529944
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 257
Can i send from trezor to another address that trezor provides.
Just a relocation of funds?
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
So really no way to use trezor.io with Firefox??

whats the problem? I use TREZOR with Firefox without any problem... if you use NoSrcipt, unclick the ABE permission only

Update: there does seem to be a problem, I'm getting this js error when connecting to https://wallet.trezor.io

Code:
00:55:59.753 SyntaxError: in strict mode code, functions may be declared only at top level or immediately within another function1 app.fc2c4806f82bb84f5284.js:186227:19

and doesn't progress beyond displaying (non-rotating) gears and "Loading ... TREZOR Wallet is starting" message.


https://old-wallet.trezor.io/#/ still works, so it is not the browser or trezord, etc set-up.
newbie
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So really no way to use trezor.io with Firefox??

whats the problem? I use TREZOR with Firefox without any problem... if you use NoSrcipt, unclick the ABE permission only
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
So really no way to use trezor.io with Firefox??
DNN
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I heard Trezor is one of the best hardware wallets out there, also the first one to be released.
There's also Ledger and KeepKey. Anyone aware of any good comparison about the different brands/models?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-bitcoin-hardware-wallets-secure-your-coins-899253

Thanks for the reply, that is a very good thread! Smiley
legendary
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
I heard Trezor is one of the best hardware wallets out there, also the first one to be released.
There's also Ledger and KeepKey. Anyone aware of any good comparison about the different brands/models?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-bitcoin-hardware-wallets-secure-your-coins-899253
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