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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 23, 2016, 06:13:10 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 05:55:09 PM

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 03:39:43 PM

Smart move.

How so?

Looking at the interest, pretty sure they would have got a lot more with an auction ... unless giving up profits for the taking is a "smart move" for some reason I'm not getting.

Maybe, maybe not. You would have to ask Ms. Vranova. Auctions are more complicated, take time and there is a time value to money. There is no auction site that takes payment by bitcoin so Trezor would have to hold an in house auction. They did not choose to do so.

I'll ask directly.

You said it was a "smart move" not to hold an auction ... why do YOU say that?

I say they lost money by not doing so.

You're right, we could probably have squeezed more profit out of this but I consider this a fair deal for everyone + our resources (time, effort) are valuable too.
At this moment, there is only one Metallic left.

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 23, 2016, 06:13:10 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 05:55:09 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 23, 2016, 05:42:17 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 03:39:43 PM

Smart move.

How so?

Looking at the interest, pretty sure they would have got a lot more with an auction ... unless giving up profits for the taking is a "smart move" for some reason I'm not getting.

Maybe, maybe not. You would have to ask Ms. Vranova. Auctions are more complicated, take time and there is a time value to money. There is no auction site that takes payment by bitcoin so Trezor would have to hold an in house auction. They did not choose to do so.

I'll ask directly.

You said it was a "smart move" not to hold an auction ... why do YOU say that?

I say they lost money by not doing so.

Smart move because:

1) Immediate income in bitcoin from sale at a price they determined the market would bear. I was surprised they set the price that high. I expected $800 but still bought one. Did you?
2) Avoided hassle of running an auction.

Not really interested in arguing the point, why don't you ask Ms. Vranova directly? I have work to get to.

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 05:55:09 PM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 23, 2016, 05:42:17 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 03:39:43 PM

Smart move.

How so?

Looking at the interest, pretty sure they would have got a lot more with an auction ... unless giving up profits for the taking is a "smart move" for some reason I'm not getting.

Maybe, maybe not. You would have to ask Ms. Vranova. Auctions are more complicated, take time and there is a time value to money. There is no auction site that takes payment by bitcoin so Trezor would have to hold an in house auction. They did not choose to do so.

I'll ask directly.

You said it was a "smart move" not to hold an auction ... why do YOU say that?

I say they lost money by not doing so.

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 23, 2016, 05:42:17 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 03:39:43 PM

Smart move.

How so?

Looking at the interest, pretty sure they would have got a lot more with an auction ... unless giving up profits for the taking is a "smart move" for some reason I'm not getting.

Maybe, maybe not. You would have to ask Ms. Vranova. Auctions are more complicated, take time and there is a time value to money. There is no auction site that takes payment by bitcoin so Trezor would have to hold an in house auction. They did not choose to do so.

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 03:39:43 PM

Smart move.

How so?

Looking at the interest, pretty sure they would have got a lot more with an auction ... unless giving up profits for the taking is a "smart move" for some reason I'm not getting.

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They obviously decided not to hold an auction and set what they thought was a price the market would bear. Smart move.

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 11:47:14 AM

Only ten left should be gone by end of the day.

5 left. Wow these are collectors

Should have held an auction to get a true market price.

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 11:47:14 AM

Only ten left should be gone by end of the day.

5 left. Wow these are collectors

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Only ten left should be gone by end of the day.

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Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 23, 2016, 10:52:23 AM

Will be interesting to see how long those twenty aluminum case Trezors last before selling out.

ONLY 18 left I already got 2

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Will be interesting to see how long those twenty aluminum case Trezors last before selling out.

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Quote from: georgem on March 22, 2016, 07:22:47 AM

Quote from: AussieHash on March 22, 2016, 01:57:19 AM

Quote from: georgem on March 21, 2016, 07:04:55 PM

Is it still just 512 kByte that has to be divided between bootloader, metadata and firmware?

Yes

hm, that's a little lame for a 99$ device.

But now I understand why they don't openly mention this.

You might find Stellaw blog interesting. He examines and explains firmware and hardware of Trezor.

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Quote from: Coiner.de on March 22, 2016, 09:12:23 AM

They don't run Linux on this.

Well obviously.

Quote from: Coiner.de on March 22, 2016, 09:12:23 AM

No need to store anything.

So the program running on this device doesn't perform any read/write operation on anykind of datastructure? Not even a few (kilo)bytes?
Not even during initialization? There must be atleast one write operation, right? When we import a seed?

I know that the CPU has embedded Flash, but does it also have embedded Data Memory?

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Sorry, but "deterministic wallet's don't work like that".
Accounts are also computed on the fly. No need to store anything.

They don't run Linux on this.
They don't need to have heaps of unused but energy wasting RAM and Flash just for bragging rights.

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Quote from: AussieHash on March 22, 2016, 01:57:19 AM

Quote from: georgem on March 21, 2016, 07:04:55 PM

Is it still just 512 kByte that has to be divided between bootloader, metadata and firmware?

Yes

hm, that's a little lame for a 99$ device.

But now I understand why they don't openly mention this.

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Quote from: georgem on March 21, 2016, 07:04:55 PM

Is it still just 512 kByte that has to be divided between bootloader, metadata and firmware?

Yes

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I found some clarification in this video here: https://player.vimeo.com/video/147404505

So we are talking about some kind of "embedded Flash" memory here?

Is it still just 512 kByte that has to be divided between bootloader, metadata and firmware?

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Hey everybody, I just ordered a trezor and can't wait to receive it and start my experiments with it.

I was wondering, on the specification site it just mentions the CPU Type and Screen Resolution etc,
but there is no info about what RAM (how much, what kind) this device uses:

http://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-faq/hardware.html

So, how much RAM is actually available on the device itself?

I'm asking, because is there for example a limit on the amount of private keys I can store?

And yes, before someone gives me an answer along the lines of "deterministic wallet's don't work like that"... I'm more talking about maximum amount of "accounts"!

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 15, 2016, 04:23:11 PM

I gave up on blackphone when they said they wouldn't be selling them for bitcoin ... even got a snotty letter back from some high-up marketing idiot saying something like "why would we do that?".

Selling a privacy-centric crypto-laden smartphone and doesn't understand why someone would want to buy one for bitcoin ... i mean what an idiot company.

Edit: apologies in advance to trezor guys for off-topic.

Buy any recent Samsung phone, install Signal, ChatSecure and Tor. Pay cash. I mean, what else is a Black Phone anyway? (Use private wifi with Tor and/or VPN; create brand new google account from a subway station with free wifi.)

Sorry for the OT too. LOL.

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