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Quote from: boltz on June 24, 2022, 01:17:35 PM

Is a day with 2-0 games on Dota and so far I'm not missing out.

Had this 2 great bets today on NaVi in Dota 2 and both hit.

Also , it was nice to hear from NaVi players that they are having personal coaches right now and all those coaches have a main coach on their own so nice things might happen with NaVi as they seems more focused than ever or at least last few years.

Congrats and wow for having personal coach for each of them. Did they said that through an interview? If it's true then they're now truly investing for each of their own player.

Usually, it's only one coach for the entire team.

So with NaVi, they're having 6 different coaches? That's a lot of budget for them to have but every time when TI is near, every team is doing something like this for better development to qualify there.

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Watched some league earlier today and didn't expect most of the favorites to drop maps and OMG pulled an upset against LNG. Anyway looking forward to some LEC later as Fnatic vs Mad Lions is the last game of the day and the most interesting one as well. I got Mad Lions @2.16 and hoping for an upset as Fnatic got their first loss against exceL while Mad Lions lost against Rogue.

Quote from: boltz on June 24, 2022, 01:17:35 PM

Is a day with 2-0 games on Dota and so far I'm not missing out.

Now I'm blasting Nemiga vs Cybercats , had Nemiga on 1st map and also 2nd map as I'm rowing with 2-0 day.

It looks like Nemiga was close to losing the second map as Cybercats were leading 8k+ networth but they turned it around and win the game, nice work in taking Navi on both maps.

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Is a day with 2-0 games on Dota and so far I'm not missing out.

Had this 2 great bets today on NaVi in Dota 2 and both hit.

Also , it was nice to hear from NaVi players that they are having personal coaches right now and all those coaches have a main coach on their own so nice things might happen with NaVi as they seems more focused than ever or at least last few years.

Now I'm blasting Nemiga vs Cybercats , had Nemiga on 1st map and also 2nd map as I'm rowing with 2-0 day.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 23, 2022, 04:19:54 PM

Holy molly! The first major upset of the Roobet Cup, FURIA losing 2-0 to 9z, Anyone couldn't have foresaw this.

They lost the first map after leading 15-8, and succumb to 10 straight round losses, still got it square in the first OT but couldn't get a win.

Quote from: Harkorede on June 22, 2022, 11:18:27 AM

Those suckers are the only one to ruin this beautiful ~10 Odds, every other team came through.. whew!

Of all the bets you've made, the only ones I see as risky. There was a Mouz - Imperial match. There are a lot of experienced ex-stars in the Imperial team, brazil's best players like Fer and Fallen, I thought they would be effective against mouz but when I watched the match, I saw how bad they were. The Imperial team may be the weakest link in the C group. By the way, the furia match was a very unexpected result.

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Quote from: vennali on June 24, 2022, 06:43:24 AM

Is it just me that, even though chinese DoTA has very high production and good casters now..but it still feels like its rigged? random pauses and crazy moves after pause. Like carry randomly farming in the dead lane showing on the map..while the teammates are far away on the other side of the map or really poor smoke plays. Even in Tier 1 Dota. One of the reasons why I feel most matches go into 3 maps or there are some shocking losses out of the blue.

It was odd because you are viewing the game without fogged and you know the posyof the enemy team while the players point of view is very different because they are just predicting and anticipating enemy movement. Sometimes carry do that especially if they are really want to complete the items since dead lanes is the least place a carry will farm and enemy team will not anticipate it which means the carry will get a free farm if he can do it quickly. This is the gambe they are risking assuming the enemy is not in the nearby camp. Chinese dote in Tier 1 is far from rigged because it will be caught easily if they are doing in purposed those technicality issue that you point out.

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Quote from: vennali on June 24, 2022, 06:43:24 AM

Is it just me that, even though chinese DoTA has very high production and good casters now..but it still feels like its rigged? random pauses and crazy moves after pause. Like carry randomly farming in the dead lane showing on the map..while the teammates are far away on the other side of the map or really poor smoke plays. Even in Tier 1 Dota. One of the reasons why I feel most matches go into 3 maps or there are some shocking losses out of the blue.

For the tier 1 teams, I've been one of the people amazes by their play style and gameplay. But about production, I don't know because I don't watch them. I don't look at the castings there because I can't understand it.

If it's related to their players, sure that they've been one of the best and always never disappoints.

Although, I understand what you've said about something suspicious even in tier 1 plays and I can't also ignore that and sometimes those plays were really questionable.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 23, 2022, 04:19:54 PM

Those suckers are the only one to ruin this beautiful ~10 Odds, every other team came through.. whew!

devastating, 1.1x odds Lips sealed

BR teams are having shockingly bad performances lately,, But, i would go for another big acca with main favorites (obviously without Furia bots), seems like they're taking this tournament seriously, and with a 250k prize pool who wouldn't (:

but I'll leave CSGO for another day, been waiting for more LEC Summer action all week and it's finally here! i've got Vitality ml x1.76 and Fnatic x1.68

and for those LoL fans, reminder that tomorrow we'll have: V5 - RNG and DWG KIA - T1 🔥🔥

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Is it just me that, even though chinese DoTA has very high production and good casters now..but it still feels like its rigged? random pauses and crazy moves after pause. Like carry randomly farming in the dead lane showing on the map..while the teammates are far away on the other side of the map or really poor smoke plays. Even in Tier 1 Dota. One of the reasons why I feel most matches go into 3 maps or there are some shocking losses out of the blue.

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Holy molly! The first major upset of the Roobet Cup, FURIA losing 2-0 to 9z, Anyone couldn't have foresaw this.

They lost the first map after leading 15-8, and succumb to 10 straight round losses, still got it square in the first OT but couldn't get a win.

Quote from: Harkorede on June 22, 2022, 11:18:27 AM

Those suckers are the only one to ruin this beautiful ~10 Odds, every other team came through.. whew!

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 22, 2022, 08:37:21 PM

I was also eyeing this series but I decided to skip it since it's too unpredictable for me. Tongue

The fact that it is unpredictable was the reason that I decided to take this over bet. I mean both teams are currently not in their best condition right now so either of them would be able to win a map from each another so yeah glad that this one hit the spot

Quote from: ralle14 on June 22, 2022, 08:37:21 PM

Fnatic vs Talon seems like a solid matchup later today and i'll probably go with the over 2.5 as all of their series have ended up 2-1.

Decided to go for winner bet, picked Talon for this and the odds was 1.99 so I thought it would be a good odds considering that Talon had beaten Boom Esports recently but it seems Fnatic is just so much better compared to Talon. My other option was the over bet but glad that I decided not to take it, saved a couple of bucks because I didnt take this lol

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on June 23, 2022, 08:26:38 AM

Btw, random thought: Imperial's world rank #15 doesn't make sense. 2 wins in the last 10 matches, a few shocking results like getting 2-0'd by TeamOne and losing to Enterprise the other day. Next rank update will put them in between 30-40 rank at best which is their actual level right now. Grim

I agree, they're given too much credit just because of their performance during the major and they'll most likely go down the rankings given their inconsistency.

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on June 22, 2022, 10:44:34 PM

Talon is in 1st rank while Fnatic is in 2nd, both are never lost in 2 last game. Talon is still my favorite because the last 10 games have 9 wins and 1 loss (RSG) while Fnatic is not enough good, with 10 games 5 wins, 3 losses and 2 draws.

Underwhelming series as Fnatic came out on top and they're just the better team on both games while Talon had a rough performance. Game 2 was closer than the first as Talon dominated the laning phase but they still crumbled during the mid game.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 22, 2022, 07:37:31 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on June 21, 2022, 09:52:14 PM

That's going to be a long haul for Puppey and his teammates to meet enough DPC points for the upcoming TI. I think that they'll still be able to meet it and get there.

Their only way to qualify through points is to get at least the top 4 in the Tour and win the major since they'd need around a thousand points given that half of the top 12 in the DPC rankings already have a thousand points. Tbh it seems unlikely and they'd probably have a better shot at qualifying through the regional qualifiers.

Yes, if they can't meet the DPC points requirement.

They really have to go through the hardest way and that's through the regionals. I also see that there are two slots for the "last chance qualifiers".

So I'm guessing that all teams that are qualified for that regional qualifiers will have all of their last chance. I think those will be the teams that would be 2nd place for the qualifiers and they'll get to fight for the two slots for the TI.

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Quote from: Balmain on June 23, 2022, 10:27:25 AM

In the Eternal Fire-Ence match, Ence, who was the team from 12-6 on the dust 2 map and found the first 15th round, was able to win the EF round in the last round and take the match to overtime. Eternal Fire had a lot of trouble defending b on the CT side, and Ence was the one who dominated the game on T'side with their mid to b rotations easily.

Ence won the match with a 19-17 advantage in overtime. Players other than Imor and Xantares could not contribute much extra to the team, and also the fact that the game is online is a disadvantage for EF players due to the ping difference.

Ence have not had it as easy as anyone one would have anticipated, the narrowly won the first map, and got blown in their own map pick, it was 13-2 at the half, but were able to make it to 10, however it was not enough, Eternal Fire have taken the second map in a well deserved fashion.

I expect a better sense of urgency from Ence in the 3rd map, I've got Ence -3.5 @ 1.90

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In the Eternal Fire-Ence match, Ence, who was the team from 12-6 on the dust 2 map and found the first 15th round, was able to win the EF round in the last round and take the match to overtime. Eternal Fire had a lot of trouble defending b on the CT side, and Ence was the one who dominated the game on T'side with their mid to b rotations easily.

Ence won the match with a 19-17 advantage in overtime. Players other than Imor and Xantares could not contribute much extra to the team, and also the fact that the game is online is a disadvantage for EF players due to the ping difference.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 22, 2022, 02:36:57 PM

Getting this one next

https://i.imgur.com/ipCQ7PI.png

it's been a while since i last saw a Dpc NA ticket, not many people here follow the na scene
Looks like TSM are struggling a bit in the league, TSM era lasted 3 months 😂

Quote from: edgycorner on June 22, 2022, 07:45:42 PM

My preds for tomorrow's roobet matches:
Astralis 2-0 Movistar
Outsiders ML - Forze
Ence 2 - 0 EF
Mouz ML - Imperal
Furia 2 - 0 9z

Les gooooo

same. We're in for some one-sided series today, except maybe Outsiders v forZe, their last meeting was in the Major and it ended 2-1 outsiders

Btw, random thought: Imperial's world rank #15 doesn't make sense. 2 wins in the last 10 matches, a few shocking results like getting 2-0'd by TeamOne and losing to Enterprise the other day. Next rank update will put them in between 30-40 rank at best which is their actual level right now. Grim

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 22, 2022, 02:36:57 PM

Getting this one next

Im an EG fanboy since they start and we know how to play EG as aggressive a thanks that Bullba does not make a pick of spam storm spirit again for Abed. For game one it is quite a normal draft with the counter of viper against bristle back and they take a risk with the Sniper safe lane against LC. Of course, it is already dominated the game and EG manage to win Game 1. In the next game Syllabear takes too much time to get a farm and the late game is the key but in the early to mid-game they commit multiple mistakes making them lose the clash and TSM wins game 2. With game 3 it is all smooth because of the Razor offlane but because of failed gank with the shaman but still they manage to win the game because of too much disable.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 22, 2022, 08:37:21 PM

Fnatic vs Talon seems like a solid matchup later today and i'll probably go with the over 2.5 as all of their series have ended up 2-1.

Talon is in 1st rank while Fnatic is in 2nd, both are never lost in 2 last game. Talon is still my favorite because the last 10 games have 9 wins and 1 loss (RSG) while Fnatic is not enough good, with 10 games 5 wins, 3 losses and 2 draws.

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Quote from: boltz on June 22, 2022, 12:08:46 PM

Well , I had Gaiming Gladiators taking a map from OG on dota and of course it didn't happen as OG simply mopped the floor with GG and with my bet too Grin

. Now I wait for Nigma vs Brame to begin as an Ultra kill bet on 1st map could be possible if Sumail has a great start and Kuroki will draft well as he does lately.

I also liked the handicap on GG but they're underperforming these past few series so I went with OG @1.45 as they showed signs of life after losing against Tundra last week. Nigma with the usual 2-0 and Brame slowly falling off as they're not playing with their full lineup.

Quote from: arallmuus on June 22, 2022, 02:36:57 PM

Getting this one next

I was also eyeing this series but I decided to skip it since it's too unpredictable for me. Tongue

Fnatic vs Talon seems like a solid matchup later today and i'll probably go with the over 2.5 as all of their series have ended up 2-1.

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Quote from: Harkorede on June 22, 2022, 11:18:27 AM

Thanks for the well wishes, but I think there could big upsets to winner of this tournament, I decided to not take big risks with this parlay bet, but still nothing seemed to be guaranteed, Entropiq are currently giving BiG quite a run for the money, and BiG need a come in the 2nd half of map 2 to get the game even, and now we head to Mirage for map 3 where all is still up grabs. BiG however, seem to have better success rate in Mirage compared to Entropiq and I hope that comes to play here.

Congratulations on your parlay That's a nice hit.
True, online CS is full of surprises. Even today we were going to witness Complexity beat Cloud 9 on inferno .-.
They choked during the final stages of the map, thanks to junior.

Entropiq played some good CS today. I had a small bet on Entropiq +1.5 maps, they didn't disappoint me.

My preds for tomorrow's roobet matches:
Astralis 2-0 Movistar
Outsiders ML - Forze
Ence 2 - 0 EF
Mouz ML - Imperal
Furia 2 - 0 9z

Les gooooo

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 22, 2022, 07:37:31 AM

I also have a bet on Team Nigma -1.5 @1.54 later today, they should take down Brame 2-0 as they've been looking less impressive these past few games.

https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/14064426-1296-4976-ad27-921f72ea1e24

I was about to take this one but I decided not to because Brame was one of team that originally was 1st division team and they have beaten Nigma previously so I thought they would be able to take atleast 1 map. It turns out that the new Nigma is pretty much on a whole another level now compared to them so Im kinda excited that this actually gives me a glimmer of hope that Nigma might qualify for TI Roll Eyes

Getting this one next

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