Topic: ETH collapsing. NxT UP. (Read 2922 times)

ETH's rise is somewhat coincident with NXT's fall, but not the cause.

NXT got off to a terrible start with distribution limited to a tiny handful of whales.

Then it was hollowed out by multiple forks of its code and socioeconomic ecosystem (NEM/SYS, and/or whatever they were called).

For over a year, NXT has been a solution in a futile search for a problem to solve.

It's old, outdated, and dying, just like the language in which it was written.

I hope you guys are right, ETH sucked out all innovation and capital out of NXT like a vampire.

And now it turns out to be a shady scam, it is unbelievable. I always trusted NXT, it is my friend coin, ETH is just a piece of scam in my views.

Insider: Oracle has lost interest in Java

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2987529/java/insider-oracle-lost-interest-in-java.html

Sep 30, 2015

New sources are stepping up questions about Oracle's stewardship of the Java development platform

There has been a lot of scuttlebutt lately about Oracle and a supposed de-emphasis on Java within the company. The rumblings are getting louder.

From the apparent dismissal of Java evangelists to an email alleging a shrugged-shoulders attitude about Java, Oracle’s commitment to the platform has come into question.

The email, sent to InfoWorld on Tuesday by a former high-ranking Java official, claimed to feature details from inside Oracle. It said the company was becoming a cloud company, competing with Salesforce, and "Java has no interest to them anymore." The subject line cited "Java -- planned obsolescence."

Not to be a jerk or sound arrogant, but I think it's pretty obvious what the deal is.

For the most part, no one gives a shit what kind of tech you roll out or what it's potential is.

Most of the people in the crypto space are day trading junkies who care if they can flip the shit for a profit in the next 5-30 minutes.

Building complex projects in Greece? Conferences? What does that do for them? You aren't gonna draw in their lot like that. (Who make up the majority atm)

People like Bitcoin because it's simple and works in doing what it claims it can do. These 2.0 platforms are just a big ? for most people. Failing to see your own weaknesses and thinking of how to compensate for them is one of the biggest blunders to be had IMO.

You're right. I thought https://www.freemarketlite.cc/ would at least get a few people selling, but no. I thought integrating shapeshift allowing paying to list items with btc/btcd and easy nxt account creation would encourage sellers, but apparently not. I'm not a marketer, but freemarket is lightyears beyond what is available on other platforms. Just wish people would give it a try, even if it's just the centralized passthru service.

Then join the Slack...or look on www.nxtforum.org , or www.nxter.org, or try Twitter, or check out one of the occasional Nxt threads on BTT......it's not that hard.

This is why everyone should be in slack, you can see what's going on in realtime, and see through the troll FUD.

The NXT community on Bitcointalk is a funny one. They have one attack dog who keeps barking at others

iCE, the picture you are attempting to create just doesn't fit with any of the facts I have.
You, again, seem to have no grasp of how the Nxt community works.
I don't think I've ever even commented on a Pangea Poker thread, let alone been involved in its development. Try asking here:
https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/pangea-poker/
or BTCDdev......

jl777 [10:11 AM]
getting the low level protocol working was tricky

jl777 [10:12 AM]
the proof of concept code was just not clean enough, so it is now split into a generic hostnet777, cards777 and pangea

jl777 [10:12 AM]
the hostnet allows any node to become a host for a spontaneous group, eg. poker table, jumblr group, p2p games, etc

jl777 [10:13 AM]
the cards777 allows the decentralized shuffling and dealing of both faceup and facedown "cards", it actually is just any set of small numbers

jl777 [10:14 AM]
the poker listings is just a test program for hostnet to make sure all the pm, broadcast, blindcast modes are working

jl777 [10:14 AM]
so it is cheating with a hardcoded testloop without any chance for out of sequence

jl777 [10:15 AM]
i have to now make a poker protocol that allows for all the various states and recovers to make sure the game completes

jl777 [10:16 AM]
but considering i have gone from no algo, to solving the mental poker protocol, to proof of concept to a hostnet/cards777 that is fully tested and working in 2 weeks, i feel like it is good progress

jl777 [10:17 AM]
just need a good day of progress to get the state machine working and then I need to use peggy for the real money betting,

jl777 [10:18 AM]
goals for this week is to release a working command line version that allows for testing of basic functions

jl777 [10:19 AM]
as it is being tested, i will do the peggy integration

jl777 [10:33 AM]
pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p0 $353
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p1 $366
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p2 $70
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p3 $184
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p4 $172
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p5 $19
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p6 $-2
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p7 $-122
      pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|       pair  Q|two pairs  K  Q|       pair  Q|       trip  Q|       pair  Q|->P7 $-122  trip  Q N6254 p8 $-140

jl777 [10:34 AM]
seems the community cards had a pair of Q

jl777 [10:35 AM]
but for now I just want to make sure the protocol is stable. with 9 players it is taking about 4 seconds for the entire game, which seems fast enough

jl777 [10:35 AM]
of course over real network it will take a lot longer, but even 30 seconds is fine

jl777 [10:35 AM]
heads up games go at several per second, far faster than people can play

jl777 [10:36 AM]
but there could be hosted bot tournaments where they play at that rate

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jl777 [3:19 PM]
peggy will be used to allow betting in fiat equivalents

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jl777 [3:38 PM]
i am just doing the low level API in a way that allows for any poker (or card game) or any other game of chance can be implemented

jl777 [3:39 PM]
stress test appears to be solid:

jl777 [3:39 PM]
airs  A  K|       pair  A|       pair  A|two pairs  A  3|       pair  A|       pair  A|       pair  A|       trip  A|       trip  A|->P7 $-290  trip  A N10328 p7 $-290
two pairs  A  K|       pair  A|       pair  A|two pairs  A  3|       pair  A|       pair  A|       pair  A|       trip  A|       trip  A|->P7 $-290  trip  A N10328 p8 $-266
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p0 $382
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p1 $564
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p2 $73
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p3 $301
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p4 $190
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p5 $16
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p6 $-68
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p7 $-292
two pairs 10  5|fullhouse  5 10|fullhouse 10  5|two pairs 10  8|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  5|two pairs 10  9|two pairs 10  5|->P2 $73    fullhouse 10  5 N10329 p8 $-266

jl777 [3:40 PM]
N10329 means over 10,000 simulated games in ~12 hrs

Yay!...iCE, iCE, baby.
Had a feeling like something was missing from this thread.....and that was relentless negativity, coupled with a shaky grasp on the facts.
Like: I'm not a coder, iCE. Check my profile if you don't believe me.

And I actually turned down the gig on Agistri, and went to Rotterdam to talk motorbikes and Lambos instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak1iojpiHpM 

Ethereum announces that they've nearly run out of cash, won't be able to finish the project.......and the price goes up.
Nxt rolls out a major project in Greece with few hitches, and has a great conference presence in Rotterdam with loads of good PR......the price drops.

Just wanted to give another update on this project.  Nothing is happening, there is no team getting anywhere.  We are looking for developers that can get things done, and hoping for more investors to come forward and support that nothing is getting anywhere.  Once we figure out what decentralized poker is we can then consider setting the goals and scope of our project straight.  If anyone has any information on what we are doing, or what we should be doing then please let us know.  As you can see other projects aren't doing shit either, so take that as a sign that your money should be with us, and you should give us more money.

Thx for all the support and belief in our BS!

Also if anyone has any solutions for all the unsolved problems we still have PLEASE LET US KNOW!!!

is it anonymous?

https://nxtforum.org/freemarket/anonymity-on-freemarket/msg145896/#msg145896

"hardcore privacy will be implemented when the rest of the work is done.
Also we want to see Telepathy in action - it prevents blockchain analysis and does not reveals IP adresses. With the help of some ephemeral passwords it will help to build rock solid privacy."


Is that part finished? 

Good points, guys....the two main weaknesses I can see in Nxt right now are marketing and accessibility.
All the tech works pretty much perfectly, that's been proven over the last 2 years. Devs and community are solid, too.
But we do need better/more marketing, and a genuinely easy user experience.

Luckily, I've been working like a little maniac (as part of the Nxt Foundation) on a solution for our marketing shortcomings, and we are also exploring ways of making Nxt (and thru Nxt, crypto in general) more accessible for the average guy in the street. The NAUT/Drachmae project has been a real learning experience in a lot of ways.

So yeah, onwards and upwards.....

@sumantso
Damelon is still very much around, he just got a bit fed up with BTT for some reason.
I'll pass on your regards......

 
 

not much activity on the forum named after the most unique, useful, and buzz worthy crypto tool the world has ever seen!

https://nxtforum.org/freemarket/

Marketing 101:  When you keep your development news on the DL, your investors, put your equity price on the down low.  Nothing wrong with the secretive mad scientist approach, just don't expect your investors to invest in what they know nothing about.

If it's the Supernet, we're waiting on, then talk it up man, market it yourself here...to me... Let me know that when they get the Supernet bugs all worked out that they will be diving into the Freemarket development, and targeting a Q2 2016 release date.  Do you know why Ethereum is so far ahead?  Not because they are doing anything that you can't do, but because they are giving investors clarity...regular updates... Even if it's just "we will do POW for a year, then POS for a year with a 50% tax on miners to pay devs for more development.  Sounds silly, but clarity and transparency is everything to an investor, which is why immutable ledgers are the holy grail for investors, and why your tears are only making this tip of the iceberg bigger.