Eth hardfork incoming - Race to the exits? - page 2.

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Quote from: WhatsBitcoin on July 17, 2016, 06:33:50 PM

I think BMB is trying to say you can't just Humpy-Dumpty your way with words. Language means what it means, you aren't neutral.
But it's off-topic. He's a notorious stray.

It is also impossible to assert one's stance fully without asking them their position either.

Assuming never does anyone any favors.

Let's agree to disagree.

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I think BMB is trying to say you can't just Humpy-Dumpty your way with words. Language means what it means, you aren't neutral.
But it's off-topic. He's a notorious stray.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 06:22:29 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on July 17, 2016, 06:18:25 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

What's interesting is that even though I have my own interests in certain coins and not in others, I do not care if ETH goes up or down.

My question was more of what will people do once they get their ETH back after the hard fork? Will it be a race to the exits?

I was genuinely interested in the psychology of people who had their ETH stolen and now will receive it back and what they will do with it.

I dont care if ETH goes to the moon or to hell.

By my own definition I am neutral as either outcome doesn't really benefit me (at least I don't see it that way).

If I were day trading ETH then sure I would be biased or if I owned some ETH too.

But neither of those claims as Mr. "Mayor" wanted to assert/assume are true.

I need a new handle. Embarrassed

Quote from: ArticMine on July 17, 2016, 06:18:25 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

This is all I'm saying.

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Quote from: ArticMine on July 17, 2016, 06:18:25 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

What's interesting is that even though I have my own interests in certain coins and not in others, I do not care if ETH goes up or down.

My question was more of what will people do once they get their ETH back after the hard fork? Will it be a race to the exits?

I was genuinely interested in the psychology of people who had their ETH stolen and now will receive it back and what they will do with it.

I dont care if ETH goes to the moon or to hell.

By my own definition I am neutral as either outcome doesn't really benefit me (at least I don't see it that way).

If I were day trading ETH then sure I would be biased or if I owned some ETH too.

But neither of those claims as Mr. "Mayor" wanted to assert/assume are true.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 06:04:44 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 05:59:14 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

I feel you need to be more specific on what you are asking and...

In regards to?

If you want to ask questions now perhaps you may want to be more specific about your question.

Now that you've decided to actually ask me as opposed to assuming things, please be clear on your question.

Please stop wasting my time by asking unclear questions.

Let me ask you a question: Do you always shoot first and then ask questions later?

Moreso do you ask unclear questions and then wait for people to attempt to get clarity?

Yeah, I tend to do that. But still...
Where's your cognitive humility, is all? Unless you're trying to move the market, I don't really get the point of this thread. It's a dead horse. When you claim to have no bias, it rings bells and makes you look silly. I'm not trying to be a dick. I promise. Embarrassed

This thread is to ask a simple question.

Obviously you can't seem to take things at face value and are quick to assume there is an ulterior motive.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

Edit: A hard fork to change the ownership of coins is next to impossible to pull of with Monero since it would break any subsequent transactions that used the tainted coins as a mixin.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on July 17, 2016, 06:06:15 PM

i think it's gonna be a fascinating test of how much people truly believe in immutability vs big daddy controlling things. i'm gonna guess that they like having a daddy.

it is important for bitcoin, that carries the standard. the people looking for more bitcoin via other avenues ain't gonna care so much.

I'm afraid the market will react positively to big daddy. I hate that. Angry

But I'm biased that way.

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i think it's gonna be a fascinating test of how much people truly believe in immutability vs big daddy controlling things. i'm gonna guess that they like having a daddy.

it is important for bitcoin, that carries the standard. the people looking for more bitcoin via other avenues ain't gonna care so much.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 05:59:14 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

I feel you need to be more specific on what you are asking and...

In regards to?

If you want to ask questions now perhaps you may want to be more specific about your question.

Now that you've decided to actually ask me as opposed to assuming things, please be clear on your question.

Please stop wasting my time by asking unclear questions.

Let me ask you a question: Do you always shoot first and then ask questions later?

Moreso do you ask unclear questions and then wait for people to attempt to get clarity?

Yeah, I tend to do that. But still...
Where's your cognitive humility, is all? Unless you're trying to move the market, I don't really get the point of this thread. It's a dead horse. When you claim to have no bias, it rings bells and makes you look silly. I'm not trying to be a dick. I promise. Embarrassed

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:54:00 PM

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

I feel you need to be more specific on what you are asking and...

In regards to?

If you want to ask questions now perhaps you may want to be more specific about your question.

Now that you've decided to actually ask me as opposed to assuming things, please be clear on your question.

Please stop wasting my time by asking unclear questions.

Let me ask you a question: Do you always shoot first and then ask questions later?

Moreso do you ask unclear questions and then wait for people to attempt to get clarity?

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Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 05:23:59 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 05:16:28 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 04:20:45 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 03:57:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 03:41:08 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 02:52:54 PM

Being completely ubiased as I own 0 ETH

lol =)

I am unbiased. I have no vested interested in ETH or DAO or the outcome of it either way.

I'm calling it from a completely neutral stand point.

No skin in "this game".

Oh. You were serious. No offence dude, but that's not how bias works. There is no unbiased position here. Look closer.

In your opinion there is no unbias position.

You are welcome to believe that.

I believe I share your bias, but your refusal to acknowledge it isn't honest. You must be daytrading.
Carry-on. Roll Eyes

Assuming ones stance doesn't prove anything but how foolish you appear to me given you don't know what you are talking about.

Carry on Kiss

Honest admission doesn't come from projecting your assumptions upon others.

Perhaps you should admit that you are assuming and thus now possibly look foolish for doing such a thing instead of just asking me what I am or am not doing.

I won't bite. Cheesy

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Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 05:16:28 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 04:20:45 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 03:57:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 03:41:08 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 02:52:54 PM

Being completely ubiased as I own 0 ETH

lol =)

I am unbiased. I have no vested interested in ETH or DAO or the outcome of it either way.

I'm calling it from a completely neutral stand point.

No skin in "this game".

Oh. You were serious. No offence dude, but that's not how bias works. There is no unbiased position here. Look closer.

In your opinion there is no unbias position.

You are welcome to believe that.

I believe I share your bias, but your refusal to acknowledge it isn't honest. You must be daytrading.
Carry-on. Roll Eyes

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I think there will be three or four rounds of big drops. The first will be the big one, some guys will sell their coins and as the price goes down I see a panic sell coming into play for those who would like to hold.
After that, I expect a strong rebuying phase followed by smoother repetitions of this circle until the price finally stabilizes.

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 04:20:45 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 03:57:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 03:41:08 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 02:52:54 PM

Being completely ubiased as I own 0 ETH

lol =)

I am unbiased. I have no vested interested in ETH or DAO or the outcome of it either way.

I'm calling it from a completely neutral stand point.

No skin in "this game".

Oh. You were serious. No offence dude, but that's not how bias works. There is no unbiased position here. Look closer.

In your opinion there is no unbias position.

You are welcome to believe that.

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I can tell by myself who has DAO tokens, i will not sell as i expect the price to go up again after the fork and trading/changing hands ETH is done.

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

My guess is there will be a drop off then the shorts will all get squeezed out then the real dump will begin After that support hits. But doing a quick short should be safe during the panic selloff of the lemmings.

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Quote from: ifinta on July 17, 2016, 04:01:37 PM

Quote from: Ultrabat on July 17, 2016, 03:48:13 PM

Quote from: lethos3 on July 17, 2016, 03:38:38 PM

They will hard fork to take funds away, how does this increase confidence as its an attack on the one core aspect of what makes a cryptocurrency a cryptocurrency: no central banks.

Quote from: Ultrabat on July 17, 2016, 03:36:13 PM

After the hard fork, people are more confident about the Ethereum. So I think the price will rise as a result.

Investors will get their funds back from the thief, so they will have more confidence in the Ethereum.

I don't understand. If the thief sell all prey, how can get back investors their funds? What will happens the people they spend bitcoins for ethereum, dao (or the prey eq) in last days?

There will be a hard fork next Wednesday, the investors will get their money back according to the vote by the miners.

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Quote from: Ultrabat on July 17, 2016, 03:36:13 PM

After the hard fork, people are more confident about the Ethereum. So I think the price will rise as a result.

The hard fork shows you can't trust Ethereum, and you can't trust Smart Contracts. It also shows a central authority has all the power, making the DAO not "Decentral" as the name would suggest.
If I would have invested in the DAO, I would indeed sell all. Then again, I sold my (not so much) Ethereum long time ago.

I really hope Ethereum gets punished for doing a hard fork, forking for financial gain is exactly what a cryptocurrency shouldn't do.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 03:57:27 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 17, 2016, 03:41:08 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 17, 2016, 02:52:54 PM

Being completely ubiased as I own 0 ETH

lol =)

I am unbiased. I have no vested interested in ETH or DAO or the outcome of it either way.

I'm calling it from a completely neutral stand point.

No skin in "this game".

Oh. You were serious. No offence dude, but that's not how bias works. There is no unbiased position here. Look closer.

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