Ethereum GPU Mining Optimisations for Pools

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Quote from: NiceHashSupport on August 29, 2016, 03:05:35 AM

OP, would you mind doing some tests on NiceHash pool? Thanks!

I did a short 40 minute test when Claymore did the original Nicehash Dagger support over a month ago - everything looked OK, no rejects!

The Nicehash Decred stratum has around 1.9% reject rate, which again is acceptable.

Obviously, a lot of people who do not want to own GPU's (heat and noise reasons) can purchase hashpower at Nicehash at up to 9% discount - varies with the bidding process.

However, you need a really good mining pool, with fast servers and fast Alt coin network to make those tight margins work out.

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OP, would you mind doing some tests on NiceHash pool? Thanks!

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 28, 2016, 03:01:31 PM

Quote from: Alehandros on August 28, 2016, 02:48:33 PM

I enjoyed this thread, thanks for sharing. Its thought provoking as I'm losing around 10-9% efficiency and always assumed it was down to the pool

Yelp, you can get very close to ETH calculator, after deductions for pool fees and Claymore fees

guess I'm gimped as I have Intel boards with AMD GPUs :/

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 28, 2016, 02:08:40 PM

But, a large number of people will mine and keep the SC in new active wallets.

Do you mean just keep them here https://sia.tech/apps?

What is the difference from keeping them at Polo?

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Quote from: Alehandros on August 28, 2016, 02:48:33 PM

I enjoyed this thread, thanks for sharing. Its thought provoking as I'm losing around 10-9% efficiency and always assumed it was down to the pool

Yelp, you can get very close to ETH calculator, after deductions for pool fees and Claymore fees

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I enjoyed this thread, thanks for sharing. Its thought provoking as I'm losing around 10-9% efficiency and always assumed it was down to the pool

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Quote from: bitwhizz on August 28, 2016, 01:07:12 PM

Extra Watts Dual mining is 27%.

R9 290 uses 45watts.

This costs (in UK) £0.10 more each day.
The extra SC (SIA) is worth £0.27 more each

Therefore, not really much reason not to Dual mine, plus there is an extra 2.5 Eth at pool each day.

Is that for one 290 card that you get £0.27 more each card? So the extract earning is £0.17 per card.

That might not worth the dual mining.

It is marginal, there is no doubt about that. But, a large number of people will mine and keep the SC in new active wallets.

They have a really good wallet and SC looks very promising for the future!

SC difficulty has gone up by 18% - since I originally posted, so daily SC is now worth £0.21 per R9 290.

It is marginally, but of interest as an extra crypto-currency investment to accumulate.

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Extra Watts Dual mining is 27%.

R9 290 uses 45watts.

This costs (in UK) £0.10 more each day.
The extra SC (SIA) is worth £0.27 more each

Therefore, not really much reason not to Dual mine, plus there is an extra 2.5 Eth at pool each day.

Is that for one 290 card that you get £0.27 more each card? So the extract earning is £0.17 per card.

That might not worth the dual mining.

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Quote from: unsoindovo on August 27, 2016, 03:59:12 PM

Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 01:19:40 PM

Quote from: Amph on August 24, 2016, 01:06:26 PM

about that 121 watt for a 1070 mining eth+sia, how much is the hashrate for both? i don't remember such a low wattage for dual mining

Not overclocked, Windows 7 and not Linux

25.55mhs for each card, total 51.1 mhs

426mhs for each card, total 852mhs

It may be the MSI model, because people are reporting higher ETH mhs with different manufacturer's card, but they may have bigger power draws.

For example, I use to have some 750TIs mining Lyra2re2:

Palit 750TI Storm Dual X used 75watts.

EVGA 750TI FTW used 55watts.

Pretty much the same hashrate on Lyra2re2 algo when I had them!

The EVGA model used 26% less electricity.

So, pick your 1070's out carefully - there can be a big difference in electricity usage between models and between different manufacturers.

no one knows a report to understand better which GPU for dual mining with your miner???
something like this:
MANUFACTURER:MODEL:GB:SINGLE MODE:DUAL MODE:MH/s:WATT

i want to buy 4 GPU... but i do not know what.
no benchmark about gtx 10603GB in dual mining?

I can't give you any advice on the 1060's - I don't have any and not many people have posted stats on them. It is a very new release.

PM Claymore, to check that he is supporting the 1060's.

I've found GPUs with longer warranties tend to have lower electricity consumption, in order to prolong GPU lifespan.

Remember mining difficulty tends to go up around blockbuster ALTs like ETH - so it can be too time consuming to be worthwhile.

Many times, buying the ALT can be more lucrative then GPU mining it. I have often skipped GPU purchases and bought the Alt with cash.

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 01:19:40 PM

Quote from: Amph on August 24, 2016, 01:06:26 PM

about that 121 watt for a 1070 mining eth+sia, how much is the hashrate for both? i don't remember such a low wattage for dual mining

Not overclocked, Windows 7 and not Linux

25.55mhs for each card, total 51.1 mhs

426mhs for each card, total 852mhs

It may be the MSI model, because people are reporting higher ETH mhs with different manufacturer's card, but they may have bigger power draws.

For example, I use to have some 750TIs mining Lyra2re2:

Palit 750TI Storm Dual X used 75watts.

EVGA 750TI FTW used 55watts.

Pretty much the same hashrate on Lyra2re2 algo when I had them!

The EVGA model used 26% less electricity.

So, pick your 1070's out carefully - there can be a big difference in electricity usage between models and between different manufacturers.

no one knows a report to understand better which GPU for dual mining with your miner???
something like this:
MANUFACTURER:MODEL:GB:SINGLE MODE:DUAL MODE:MH/s:WATT

i want to buy 4 GPU... but i do not know what.
no benchmark about gtx 10603GB in dual mining?

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Are you using stock BIOS on that R9 290, or are you using one of the BIOS from TheStilt?

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 08:49:48 AM

Quote from: DrX on August 24, 2016, 08:43:57 AM

Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 08:14:38 AM

Quote from: sp_ on August 24, 2016, 08:07:56 AM

You need to use the "frontier diff". Some calculators still use the old reward wich is higher than the current reward.

Etherscan calulator is showing:

0.328ETH per day for 50.64mhs minus 1% mining pool fee.

That's what i'm getting...

Then don't waste my time posting with fake newbie account - this is an ANN for people who getting 10%-25% below the ethereum calculator.

You can't read English, can you:

"Many GPUs rig owners have been reporting getting 10%-25% less shares or payouts for mining Dagger (Ethereum) at the pools, when compared to the mining calculators. I decided more than 2 weeks ago to research this topic for the benefit of the GPU rig owners' community."

What is wrong with you?

There is nothing fake about my account, everyone is a newbie at start....but sorry i missed the part "when compared to the mining calculators"...

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Quote from: Amph on August 24, 2016, 01:33:52 PM

mmh i think you can do a better thing at 140w with 30MH foer eth and 600 on sia? i've not tested this so mere speculation

Yeah,

I understand you can do better with a different implementation of Nvidia 1070

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mmh i think you can do a better thing at 140w with 30MH for eth and 600 on sia? i've not tested this so mere speculation

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Quote from: Amph on August 24, 2016, 01:06:26 PM

about that 121 watt for a 1070 mining eth+sia, how much is the hashrate for both? i don't remember such a low wattage for dual mining

Not overclocked, Windows 7 and not Linux

25.55mhs for each card, total 51.1 mhs

426mhs for each card, total 852mhs

It may be the MSI model, because people are reporting higher ETH mhs with different manufacturer's card, but they may have bigger power draws.

For example, I use to have some 750TIs mining Lyra2re2:

Palit 750TI Storm Dual X used 75watts.

EVGA 750TI FTW used 55watts.

Pretty much the same hashrate on Lyra2re2 algo when I had them!

The EVGA model used 26% less electricity.

So, pick your 1070's out carefully - there can be a big difference in electricity usage between models and between different manufacturers.

Amph

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about that 121 watt for a 1070 mining eth+sia, how much is the hashrate for both? i don't remember such a low wattage for dual mining

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 03:58:24 AM

He/She has them on Intel Chipset/CPUs, when openCL needs AMD GPUs to be on AMD chipsets/cpus

He/She is sending 312mhz to poolside, but because they are on wrong chipset/cpu their efficiency to solve jobs is equivalent of:

254.3mhs

So, the stratum pool will assign jobs at 312mhs, but the rigs will solve those jobs at 254.3mhs.

Other GPU owners will then, be given more duplicate jobs to make up for that guy or gals inefficient rigs - this reduces the blocks found by the mining pool and reduces the mining payouts for everyone at at that mining pool!

this is a total bull shit.
dude you don't understand what you are talking about.

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Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 11:00:42 AM

Quote from: nerdralph on August 24, 2016, 10:39:15 AM

You don't need to worry about young people. However there seems to be at least one old prude reading this thread...

Well, at least you've posted before Grin

I found this digression in one of your posts interesting:

"I grew up in a rural area; knew how to shoot, drive a tractor, and handle a chainsaw by age 12. However I find intolerance is far more pervasive in rural areas than urban. It was nothing to hear nigger and paki jokes at school, and if you valued your life you didn't come out as gay until after you left town. I didn't realize how bad it was until I moved away for university (and suddenly found out some of my friends were gay)."

What part of USA are you from?

The 51st state, AKA Canada. :-)

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China is a much more open and transparent place to operate for economic entrepreneurial minded people and business minded people - one of it's economic selling points.

When it comes to crypto-activities and crypto-business they are quite open about what you get for you hashpower.

Currently, f2pool.com is paying: 0.00638993 ETH per 1 Mhash/s pay by share.

50.63mhs would earn you 0.32352ETH today!

Please note pool fees are 3%, therefore net earnings a day will be 0.3138ETH.

As you can see: Etherscan is completely accurate for those lucky people mining ETH in China

The Ethereum Foundation is telling you the truth, about what you should be getting on the Etherscan Calculator.

Don't trust Ethereum Calculators by some anonymous bloke on the internet!

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Quote from: nerdralph on August 24, 2016, 10:39:15 AM

Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 09:57:36 AM

Quote from: sp_ on August 24, 2016, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: thevictimofuktyranny on August 24, 2016, 09:42:53 AM

Yelp, but if you don't PM the Ethereum Foundation about this, how will they be able to fix it?

Fuck The Ethereum Foundation...

There is no reason to swear SP_ , young people could end up reading this thread!

You need to set a good example to the young one's.

You don't need to worry about young people. However there seems to be at least one old prude reading this thread...

Well, at least you've posted before Grin

I found this digression in one of your posts interesting:

"I grew up in a rural area; knew how to shoot, drive a tractor, and handle a chainsaw by age 12. However I find intolerance is far more pervasive in rural areas than urban. It was nothing to hear nigger and paki jokes at school, and if you valued your life you didn't come out as gay until after you left town. I didn't realize how bad it was until I moved away for university (and suddenly found out some of my friends were gay)."

What part of USA are you from?

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