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legendary
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March 21, 2016, 01:33:39 AM
I think the profitability of mining Ethereum has increased a bit because of the fall in crude oil prices. It is now cheaper to generate electricity from gas.

So I am thinking that it is possible to forecast profitability by looking at the cost of generating electricity, or something related to that.


No I don't think it works that way.
sr. member
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March 21, 2016, 12:42:35 AM
I think the profitability of mining Ethereum has increased a bit because of the fall in crude oil prices. It is now cheaper to generate electricity from gas.

So I am thinking that it is possible to forecast profitability by looking at the cost of generating electricity, or something related to that.
sr. member
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March 20, 2016, 09:46:38 PM
my point was most asics spend more in electricity than they earn in bitcoin now.
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 08:52:55 PM

BTC mining is still profitable. I have a few asics running, they're profitable, just not as much as gpu mining is at this moment.


Do you have free electricity?  Otherwise then no they probably aren't.

Even 10 cents profit is profit, thus profitable.

 Wink

nothing is free. Yes even 10 cents profit is a profit. may be not that much profit, but it is also a profit

Its better to sell the card for like $150 then make 10 cents a day profit.
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March 20, 2016, 03:56:18 PM

BTC mining is still profitable. I have a few asics running, they're profitable, just not as much as gpu mining is at this moment.


Do you have free electricity?  Otherwise then no they probably aren't.

Even 10 cents profit is profit, thus profitable.

 Wink

nothing is free. Yes even 10 cents profit is a profit. may be not that much profit, but it is also a profit
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 03:28:12 PM

BTC mining is still profitable. I have a few asics running, they're profitable, just not as much as gpu mining is at this moment.


Do you have free electricity?  Otherwise then no they probably aren't.

Even 10 cents profit is profit, thus profitable.

 Wink
sr. member
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March 20, 2016, 03:09:50 PM

BTC mining is still profitable. I have a few asics running, they're profitable, just not as much as gpu mining is at this moment.


Do you have free electricity?  Otherwise then no they probably aren't.
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 01:55:19 PM
blake and Eth is the sweet spot even for now. Do not know how long Pow phase of Eth will exist but hope decred will get loads of hashes from gpu miners like us
hero member
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March 20, 2016, 01:34:54 PM
Decred is also very new and there is a much more restrictive supply so if and when new money comes in then it will have a greater effect on coin price.
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 01:13:17 PM
Hopefully Decred gets a nice boom for their price over the coming months and that will give a second home to gpu miners as well, that should spread out the hash rate more and slow diff increases.

Decred doesn't have a large market cap, only like $2.5 million
hero member
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March 20, 2016, 01:02:22 PM
Hopefully Decred gets a nice boom for their price over the coming months and that will give a second home to gpu miners as well, that should spread out the hash rate more and slow diff increases.
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March 20, 2016, 04:05:02 AM
Besides ETH, most alt coins were garbage. Had very low market caps and I made like $0.25 per day with a 280X for like the last 12 months. Quark was good for like a month or so but besides that, there was nothing to mine really.

DASH is bad for mining due to the nodes stealing most of the mining profits.

INCLUDING Eth - fixed for you.
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
we earned/ mined $0.30 max with 970 even few months ago. We are getting $5+ per day. hope this profitable time will exist for a while

Exactly its was pretty bad that most just sold their GPUs on eBay and bought an Antminer since they were less of a hassle to manage.
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March 20, 2016, 04:29:04 AM
we earned/ mined $0.30 max with 970 even few months ago. We are getting $5+ per day. hope this profitable time will exist for a while
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 04:03:43 AM
Besides ETH, most alt coins were garbage. Had very low market caps and I made like $0.25 per day with a 280X for like the last 12 months. Quark was good for like a month or so but besides that, there was nothing to mine really.

DASH is bad for mining due to the nodes stealing most of the mining profits.
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March 20, 2016, 03:38:22 AM
there are other coins that are profitable, or offer the same profit as ethereum, if they dump ethereum they will pump another one, some miners will leave and other will remain, you can bet that at least one remain profitable, if not, you wait for the second coming of "a etheruem like coin"
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 01:59:24 AM
Is there any clear schedule by when the ETH will become POS only coin ? Who knows it ? I asked several times but no one was able to answer. I think if POW phase remains viable, we will get profit like now for couple of months. Because there are ETH haters also and they will switch to another coins. New miners will enter into ETH mining and naturally some miners will leave ETH.

The POS switch is up to the devs. Nobody knows exactly when it will take place. Could be next month or next year.
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March 20, 2016, 12:58:29 AM
Is there any clear schedule by when the ETH will become POS only coin ? Who knows it ? I asked several times but no one was able to answer. I think if POW phase remains viable, we will get profit like now for couple of months. Because there are ETH haters also and they will switch to another coins. New miners will enter into ETH mining and naturally some miners will leave ETH.
legendary
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March 19, 2016, 08:52:32 PM
I highly doubt it will remain profitable until POS. Maybe by profitable you mean making $0.20 a day with a 280X?

Right now a 280X makes $5 per day.

In the last 30 days, the hashrate pretty much doubled, but the price went up quadruple, so its ok.

Assume price stays where it is. Assume starting hashrate of 1400Gh/s which is where we are at right now. Hashrate went up by 750Gh/s every month.

In 30 days, a 280X will make $3.25 per day.
In 2 months, $2.41
in 3 months, $1.92
in 4 months, $1.59
in 5 months, $1.36

Only way how a 280X will make $5 constantly for the next 6 months is if it surpases BTC in marketcap, which is highly unlikely.

Enjoy the profits right now while they last because it won't always be like this. Trust me I was around for the BTC, and LTC mining days, even X11. These days everybody is smart and they do what they can to maximize profits.

But who knows, the hashrate increase is based on adding around 1250 R9 280X GPUs a day, so maybe there will be hopefully supply shortages.


Or the devs who own 72,000,000 ETH will start dumping and cause the price to crash.

legendary
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March 19, 2016, 08:39:24 PM
Its common sense that if something is very profitable more and more people are going to want to get into it.

It doesn't take a genius to start mining. Its basically free money. Hence it will become more and more competitive and that will cut into everyones profits.

The next month or so should be very good profits for most. But in 6 months or so, maybe the ones with cheap electricity will be only able to mine.

The only roadblocks I can see are if GPUs get sold out everywhere and that will halt the difficulty jumps but right now there is still massive supply everywhere and even Nvidia cards can mine ETH unlike the Litecoin AMD day.

BTC is a perfect example, its was very profitable during certain times but then everybody wanted a piece of the pie and right now the profits are very very low for most. Only the ones with free electricity make good money with Bitcoin.




I disagree and think it will remain profitable until ETH goes PoS. You cannot compare it with Bitcoin mining, as when the ASICs started, GPUs quickly became obsolete due to the arms race, not because more people got involved. In fact, this caused the opposite to happen as the price of dedicated ASICs started to out-price home miners, the amount of individual miners declined. As long as the Ethereum algorithm remains ASIC resistant, or at least until PoS, it will remain viable to mine.

While it is indeed true that more people will look to bring more GPU's online, this is in itself limited as to how far it can scale. The early ASIC's effectively replaced 10 GPUs, then later on 20, and now 100 or even 1000's in equivalent hashing power. Multiply a large BTC miner today with 100's of such ASICs now and you can see this represents 100's of thousands, or even millions of GPU's worth of hashing power, which would have been impossible to scale to if mining remained in the hands of GPU only.
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