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copper member
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March 23, 2017, 01:18:00 AM
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I have been in touch with the hacker. He has assured me he has just now returned your password to ashapasa account.
Please confirm.

Yes account has been returned, thank you so much for your help. He apologized and said he bought the account and that he is not a hacker.

Again thanks a lot.

Could be anyone claiming this. In order to avoid potential ethical issues I better leave a negative rating. Just to make sure.

For thos not getting it: Its a hyperbole in the hopes that OP will understand the problems with what they are asking for.
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ashapasa is now a slave account on the same rota as these other "reactivated" accounts.

So, if you don't mind elaborating; what's a slave account?
jr. member
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Yes account has been returned, thank you so much for your help. He apologized and said he bought the account and that he is not a hacker.
Again thanks a lot.
Would it be possible for you to post something similar from the Justice11 account? Just to know that this isn't the hacker trying to take attention away from the case.

 Cheesy thanks for your concern. I really did get my account back. Thanks a lot you guys, people like you restore my faith in basic human kindness.  Smiley
Congrats mate and wellcome back Smiley
newbie
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Yes account has been returned, thank you so much for your help. He apologized and said he bought the account and that he is not a hacker.
Again thanks a lot.
Would it be possible for you to post something similar from the Justice11 account? Just to know that this isn't the hacker trying to take attention away from the case.

 Cheesy thanks for your concern. I really did get my account back. Thanks a lot you guys, people like you restore my faith in basic human kindness.  Smiley
jr. member
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Guys, sorry if I am asking a too basic question..

If someone still controls the email used for opening the BCT account, isn't it a breeze to recover the access by just resetting the password via email? Am I missing something?

Do all of these problems arise when the person lost access both to BCT account and email address?



@mellon, I am sorry to hear this happened to you. Unfortunately I am not sure how I can help. Just tell me if you think I can help somehow. As far as I know, such issues take a lot of time and effort to be resolved here on BCT. Lets hope it gets resolved soon though.
Hi mate. Ty for your attention to my problem,glad to see you,at this stage only theymos or Cyrus can solve my problem(exactly in my situation waas changed email address and password  in less than  one minute time when im reset my Wi Fi router),but anyway separate thanks for support and if you are needs any help or etc., you know now as to find me now,just PM me and im do all that i can to do for help you mate. Best of all to you and good luck.
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
Yes account has been returned, thank you so much for your help. He apologized and said he bought the account and that he is not a hacker.
Again thanks a lot.
Would it be possible for you to post something similar from the Justice11 account? Just to know that this isn't the hacker trying to take attention away from the case.
sr. member
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I have been in touch with the hacker. He has assured me he has just now returned your password to ashapasa account.
Please confirm.

Yes account has been returned, thank you so much for your help. He apologized and said he bought the account and that he is not a hacker.

Again thanks a lot.
Vod
legendary
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Guys, sorry if I am asking a too basic question..

If someone still controls the email used for opening the BCT account, isn't it a breeze to recover the access by just resetting the password via email? Am I missing something?

Do all of these problems arise when the person lost access both to BCT account and email address?


When someone hacks a BCT account, they change the email address.

You can see this on the trust page.
legendary
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Guys, sorry if I am asking a too basic question..

If someone still controls the email used for opening the BCT account, isn't it a breeze to recover the access by just resetting the password via email? Am I missing something?

Do all of these problems arise when the person lost access both to BCT account and email address?



@mellon, I am sorry to hear this happened to you. Unfortunately I am not sure how I can help. Just tell me if you think I can help somehow. As far as I know, such issues take a lot of time and effort to be resolved here on BCT. Lets hope it gets resolved soon though.
hero member
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I have been in touch with the hacker. He has assured me he has just now returned your password to ashapasa account.
Please confirm.
jr. member
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Im not wish you to be hack,but never say never. And why i must accept your position if its not have any sense exactly in my situation? Im easy agree with you about possible ways how user can put its accounts in danger.You are make a mistake when You are make a mistake in your conclusions about me and the fact that you can surprise me with your knowledge of security. You refuse to consider the fact that I have observed all the basic principles of security, ignore the fact that this is the first hacked account in my Life and it is very strange that it occurred on this forum. But this is all the lyrics.
Indeed, let's just agree to disagree on this.

In the my first post in this thread, I indicated that I fulfilled all the necessary conditions for recovery, but the account has not been returned to me yet, you explain it to yourself that the requests about recovery have a low priority for administrators,so its mean that administrators not want to help users in their main,real important for users,sort of available problems,I'll ask you again, is this normal,really? so it should be?
I never said it was normal; the speed of account recovery is generally rather terrible on this forum (and seems to have been for a long time). As to why:
I'm not going to make excuses for Cyrus

If it were up to me there would be lots of changes made to the way that this place is run, but it isn't. It's not 'interesting' as to why I didn't answer your question, it is simply because I have no idea.
That place have a problem,how we can see and  in my point of view,its more deeper than it seems at first sight.Any problems can be solved,if ppl want to solve it. Im well know that not only recovery accounts can taking much time here,any type of problem .that needs to ask administrators about help can getting more time in last year,why and what a result wants to get theymos ,using same practice ,know only theymos.But middle results we are all well see,main part of active community (real helpful ppl and members who are at firstgoing here for getting new information and disscussion ,who are care aboutcommunity) decreases. Of course theymos make a huge work and  much more than respected person.But why not to make any new rules about time of reactionand solving requests,may be vote for administratorwho are was work only with recovery requests ,if they are not have enought time and huge number of requests  about recovery? Waiting so long without any normal feedback cannot getting any good feelings,especially when unclear what is the time to wait and there are no real visible reasons for the solution. Anyway thank you for discussion and best of all to you Smiley
legendary
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Im not wish you to be hack,but never say never. And why i must accept your position if its not have any sense exactly in my situation? Im easy agree with you about possible ways how user can put its accounts in danger.You are make a mistake when You are make a mistake in your conclusions about me and the fact that you can surprise me with your knowledge of security. You refuse to consider the fact that I have observed all the basic principles of security, ignore the fact that this is the first hacked account in my Life and it is very strange that it occurred on this forum. But this is all the lyrics.
Indeed, let's just agree to disagree on this.

In the my first post in this thread, I indicated that I fulfilled all the necessary conditions for recovery, but the account has not been returned to me yet, you explain it to yourself that the requests about recovery have a low priority for administrators,so its mean that administrators not want to help users in their main,real important for users,sort of available problems,I'll ask you again, is this normal,really? so it should be?
I never said it was normal; the speed of account recovery is generally rather terrible on this forum (and seems to have been for a long time). As to why:
I'm not going to make excuses for Cyrus

If it were up to me there would be lots of changes made to the way that this place is run, but it isn't. It's not 'interesting' as to why I didn't answer your question, it is simply because I have no idea.
jr. member
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"Regardless, there is no point in focusing on how your account got hacked now; it is in the past." - Lol,stop throlling me,enought.
I don't feel like giving a rundown on every possible way that you could have put your account in danger, so it's best to just focus on getting it back. I don't see how that is trolling at all.

Wish you never be hacked "wise" man. Or if that would be done,read at first your own posts here.
I've never had my Bitcointalk account hacked and probably never will. I stand by what I wrote, and you're probably only ignoring it because you don't want to accept it.

Good Luck.
Thanks, you too.
"I've never had my Bitcointalk account hacked and probably never will. I stand by what I wrote, and you're probably only ignoring it because you don't want to accept it." - Im not wish you to be hack,but never say never. And why i must accept your position if its not have any sense exactly in my situation? Im easy agree with you about possible ways how user can put its accounts in danger.You are make a mistake when You are make a mistake in your conclusions about me and the fact that you can surprise me with your knowledge of security. You refuse to consider the fact that I have observed all the basic principles of security, ignore the fact that this is the first hacked account in my Life and it is very strange that it occurred on this forum. But this is all the lyrics. Much more interesting why you are not answer on one question(twice in a row).In the my first post in this thread, I indicated that I fulfilled all the necessary conditions for recovery, but the account has not been returned to me yet, you explain it to yourself that the requests about recovery have a low priority for administrators,so its mean that administrators not want to help users in their main,real important for users,sort of available problems,I'll ask you again, is this normal,really? so it should be?
newbie
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Is ignoring the problem the only solution? If returning the account to its rightful owner is too time consuming why not just delete the account or at least flag it as suspicious? As a warning to fellow forum members who might be dealing with an unethical hacker through this hacked account.

What would happen if someone said the Vod account was hacked, and did not provide proof?  Do I deserve to have my account flagged as suspicious without any proof?

The issue is not about lack of proof but lack of one particular type of proof, there are more than one way of proving theft. The person who hacked my account sent me a message he will give me my account back after I sent a message asking for the return of my account. I am hoping he will. If he does not return my account, does not the fact that he basically admitted the theft by replying through the stolen account prove the account is mine.
newbie
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I've found 2 address in ashapasa's post history

https://archive.fo/Gkth3

Can you sign message from them? It should be good proof.

Thanks for your help but I don't have that bitcoinwallet anymore, it's an old deleted one from 2014. I wrote a message to the hacker and he said he will return it  Huh . So I will wait to see if he does. Also thank you rizzarolla
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
"Regardless, there is no point in focusing on how your account got hacked now; it is in the past." - Lol,stop throlling me,enought.
I don't feel like giving a rundown on every possible way that you could have put your account in danger, so it's best to just focus on getting it back. I don't see how that is trolling at all.

Wish you never be hacked "wise" man. Or if that would be done,read at first your own posts here.
I've never had my Bitcointalk account hacked and probably never will. I stand by what I wrote, and you're probably only ignoring it because you don't want to accept it.

Good Luck.
Thanks, you too.
jr. member
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So,you mean its a normal practice? All that years ,im think that cryptocommunity at first its a most honest community,because all here are build on trust and help each other,and ppl here respect one another and are equal to each other.
Don't be silly. This community has some of the worst scumbags of any community I've been in before. Accounts get hacked and stolen on a regular basis. - Im ask you again ,its normal situation? If its normal for you and for admins and mods ,here soon was only staff with tonns of farming accounts.

Its 11 day in a row,not one day.
Cyrus answer me yersterday

And where im use word "excuse"? or im ask you to "make excuses"?
I meant that I don't know why Cyrus doesn't recover accounts faster, so I'm not going to pretend like I do and give excuses for it.

So,you are did a mistake here,about me.Its easier way to try explain all only "user  mistake" and "user not using proper password security",but its not always corresponds to reality.Im changed password and not once.My previous post  include all information about what i  do and how its happen.And im never sell my account (even not think about that).
Did you reuse the password anywhere else that could have been hacked? Was your password random, or made up of dictionary words? Did you log into your account anywhere that the connection could have been snooped?
There are several questions that you have to ask if an account gets compromised. Regardless, there is no point in focusing on how your account got hacked now; it is in the past.
"Regardless, there is no point in focusing on how your account got hacked now; it is in the past." - Lol,stop throlling me,enought. Wish you never be hacked "wise" man. Or if that would be done,read at first your own posts here. Good Luck.
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
So,you mean its a normal practice? All that years ,im think that cryptocommunity at first its a most honest community,because all here are build on trust and help each other,and ppl here respect one another and are equal to each other.
Don't be silly. This community has some of the worst scumbags of any community I've been in before. Accounts get hacked and stolen on a regular basis.

Its 11 day in a row,not one day.
Cyrus answer me yersterday

And where im use word "excuse"? or im ask you to "make excuses"?
I meant that I don't know why Cyrus doesn't recover accounts faster, so I'm not going to pretend like I do and give excuses for it.

So,you are did a mistake here,about me.Its easier way to try explain all only "user  mistake" and "user not using proper password security",but its not always corresponds to reality.Im changed password and not once.My previous post  include all information about what i  do and how its happen.And im never sell my account (even not think about that).
Did you reuse the password anywhere else that could have been hacked? Was your password random, or made up of dictionary words? Did you log into your account anywhere that the connection could have been snooped?
There are several questions that you have to ask if an account gets compromised. Regardless, there is no point in focusing on how your account got hacked now; it is in the past.
jr. member
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ashapasa is now a slave account on the same rota as these other "reactivated" accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pieppiep-49366
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shiunsai-74353
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/strunberg-84739
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mega-125571
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pungopete468-194388
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ashapasa-232031
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/whale123-256026
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sj2199-303997
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tazmania-315811
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/patrickmh-452046

If you check the post history's they multi post march 4/5/6 then on march 11 all 1 post applying for secondstrade campaign on after the other.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18147835
(i believe most/all have just been kicked from bitmixer campaign?)
Only ashapasa does not apply to secondstrade. Probably saw this thread had been started?
All march posts are identical in lengh/style (or lack of)
All march posts are on "rota"

Obvious really, except apparently to mods or admin or DT1 who all cry "nothing can be done" - if they respond at all.
Funny that.

Can I ask you to check my two accounts,all info about is here ,if you are have a free few minutes for that?
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ashapasa is now a slave account on the same rota as these other "reactivated" accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pieppiep-49366    pieppiep
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shiunsai-74353    shiunsai
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/strunberg-84739    strunberg
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mega-125571  mega
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pungopete468-194388  pungopete468
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ashapasa-232031  ashapasa
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/whale123-256026  whale123
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sj2199-303997  sj2199
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tazmania-315811  tazmania
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/patrickmh-452046  patrickmh

If you check the post history's they multi post march 4/5/6 then on march 11 all 1 post applying for secondstrade campaign on after the other.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18147835
(i believe most/all have just been kicked from bitmixer campaign?)
Only ashapasa does not apply to secondstrade. Probably saw this thread had been started?
All march posts are identical in lengh/style (or lack of)
All march posts are on "rota"

Obvious really, except apparently to mods or admin or DT1 who all cry "nothing can be done" - if they respond at all.
Funny that.

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