Topic: Ethical issue about ignoring hacked account - page 2. (Read 2381 times)

I've found 2 address in ashapasa's post history

https://archive.fo/Gkth3

Can you sign message from them? It should be good proof.

So,you mean its a normal practice? All that years ,im think that cryptocommunity at first its a most honest community,because all here are build on trust and help each other,and ppl here respect one another and are equal to each other.

Its 11 day in a row,not one day. And where im use word "excuse"? or im ask you to "make excuses"?


So,you are did a mistake here,about me.Its easier way to try explain all only "user  mistake" and "user not using proper password security",but its not always corresponds to reality.Im changed password and not once.My previous post  include all information about what i  do and how its happen.And im never sell my account (even not think about that). Im get information about prices and  how  i can calculate real price of account after my account was hacked.

Im changed password in 2015 and in 2016 years and what? Im was online here and after restarting my  Wi-Fi router im cannot login ONLY in my bitcointalk account,all open exchanges and other services not even logout.Only here im was kick out and my mail address with password was changed in 30 seconds. If my PC was hacked at first was hacked my funds,but exactly not a account on bitcointalk.org and only it. Why i can say that its hacking ,because was changing mail address and passwords and after im try few times to use "Forgot Password" button ,someone login to forum and logout using my account.Now its offline since 04 March 2017 ,no activity ,not any post was not send by hacker from my account (may be only PM). Its first account and first forum where my account was hacked and that is fact. When ppl want to recovery their accounts ,put in requests all needs information and wait months,its a normal? By date since 17 Feb here are starts not one or two  topics with recovery requests(in most times Legendary accounts was hacked/lost),just coincidence of mass users mistakes,not think so. Ignoring requests from other members not better way. Many of ppl are here not one year.Any forum are live only because ppl use it.

There is no authoritative way to say that an account is "hacked".

If a new user buys your account from you with the intention of participating in a signature campaign, but is not experienced enough, nor has done sufficient research to know to ask for a signed message, then your account is not hacked. The presence of a signed message will not prove that an account was hacked.

If someone infects your computer with malware, and is able to steal both your private keys and your passwords, then the hacker will be able to produce a signed message claiming the account was sold, yet it would in fact be hacked.

There are many other situations in which the issue is muddy when dealing with potentially hacked accounts.

For the most part, the forum does not get involved in these kinds of disputes. It is also fairly rare that accounts get hacked because of a security breach on the part of the forum, although this is somewhat more common now because of the 2015 hack -- if your account is getting hacked two years after the fact, then this is really your fault because you very much should have been aware that you should have changed your password. Most "true" account hacks are the result of the end user making some kind of mistake.

Thousands of accounts have quite suddenly and recently been "reactivated". I touched on the subject here,

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17944110
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17974610

A simple problem to deal with, just like the 900 farmed accounts i have listed. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rizzs-500-1670807
theymos, mods and DT do nothing. Why? Because theymos is the "farmer/hacker"?

Edit - I bumped into a hacked account straight after posting here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18151089

As I said, account recovery is a low priority for staff to deal with (apart from special circumstances). It can be up to months before you get your account back.

I'm not going to make excuses for Cyrus as to why he may not answer, however it has only been a day. Wait a few more and try again if nothing is solved.

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, so I will answer what I think you are.
In May 2015 there was a hack on the forum which released everyone's hashed passwords and such. If your password was weak and you didn't change it since then, it is possible for someone to bruteforce the hash and get your password out of it. That accompanied with account sales/scammers is likely a reason that a large number of older accounts are suddenly being hacked. Other than that, it is just people not using proper password security and paying the price for it.

Its still not so easy to recover its with proof too,im wait second week now,all that time myhacked was online twice and by few minutes,most of time accountis offline,im use many resources ,but for all time that im using internet at all i was hacked and its happen here with my  Legendary account,three years using growth from newbie to Legendary with +60 trust points ,sign message,proof from exchanges,from other members of that forum about my identification,Cyrus answer me yersterday after 10 times PM with requests,that he look into it and get  back to me ,and quit again. Anyway if account was using long time with good activity ,real owner have a information that cannot be hacked,why so much request about hacking last time here? May be,because  accounts prices are grow or may be any problems with security here,like in 2015 year or in 2016?

Other than a staked Bitcoin address, how would you suggest that hacked accounts be proven (that does not take a lot of investigation/time by staff)? Email addresses and other such information is not proof, as that can also be hacked.

The optimal solution is not letting your account get hacked in the first place. Doing so is your own problem, and therefore a low priority for staff to clean up after.

That's not the Staff's problem necessarily. If you have sufficient proof, request a DT member flag your account until further notice (however if said proof was already given it is likely that this would have already been done).

What would happen if someone said the Vod account was hacked, and did not provide proof?  Do I deserve to have my account flagged as suspicious without any proof?

I read thymos post about the recovery process, it's helpful but only if you have a bitcoin address used through the hacked account. People who don't have such an account  are asked to forget about recovering their old account and let the  hacker use it as he sees fit; the effort needed to rectify the issue is considered not worth it.

I understand the administrators are swamped with such requests, but to let the hackers basically go free is simply wrong. The hacked account has no use anywhere except for this forum, the hacker who hacked the account can only use the account to swindle, cheat and spam the members of this forum. The more we let this pass the more seedy this forum will become for the detriment of all members.

Is ignoring the problem the only solution? If returning the account to its rightful owner is too time consuming why not just delete the account or at least flag it as suspicious? As a warning to fellow forum members who might be dealing with an unethical hacker through this hacked account.

My account was hacked recently, i had it since 2014, now someone is simply using it as if I never existed in this forum. The account has no monetary value but it still hurts to loss it, it contains my memories, both good and bad that I had in this forum. The thought that the hacker will be using my account to cheat or spam other people in this forum by this account is very disturbing to me. I don't expect to recover my account, just want to notify that the account with the username 'ashapasa' is an hacked account.

The account with the username 'ashapasa' was created by me in 2014 through my email [email protected]
People can figure out simply by looking at my email address that this account is mine. Anyway thanks for reading.