EU and Greece talks fail! another cyprus moment looms! - page 2.

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Quote from: Brewins on February 16, 2015, 10:58:05 PM

Quote from: countryfree on February 16, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

Most if not all Euro zone countries have financial problems.

Greece and Portugal already caused trouble to Euro zone, Greece leaving might start a trust crisis or something

When the Spaniards and the Portuguese will see what happens if Greece leaves the Euro, they'll shut their mouth. There won't be any domino effect. Greece will just collapse if it leaves the Euro. Thousands of Greeks will emigrate to other countries, and there will be people starving among those who stay, I mean people dying from hunger, if the country leaves the Euro. Imagine that all civil servants, all policemen, will no longer receive a salary, and that the people who have money in the bank will not be able to withdraw it. Nobody wants that, unless those who don't understand the situation.

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Quote from: cuddaloreappu on February 16, 2015, 08:23:29 PM

talks between greece and European union have failed miserably and now if this continues the eurozone will break down with greece exit and euro will tumble down..

financial markets across world will have shocks from this..greece will have to find a new currency..

A lot of capital will flow out of greece which means there is a chance that people will use bitcoin to protect their money..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSnAyJ_0AmU

It would be crazy if they accept bitcoin as their currency .

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Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on February 16, 2015, 10:22:33 PM

Can someone tell me how all of this started exactly? Why is Greece having issues, moreover wanting to/having to ditch the Euro?

Hotspots: Greece (1/2) - MaxKeiserTV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bISfaVkszo0

Hotspots: Greece (2/2) - MaxKeiserTV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnsWEXqhd7M

Keiser Report: Greece, Beware Bureaucrats & Bankers Bearing Bailouts (E716) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gg3qK_gYkI

Keiser Report: Hidden Truth About Greece (E714) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84j6DzzzyK8

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Cyprus should have been the wake-up call to everyone to have a "Plan B" and even a "Plan C" re preserving wealth... And, IIRC, it was the middle class in Cyprus who got screwed the worst.

BTC is perfect for taking out a large amount of wealth. I read at Zero Hedge recently that sales of gold coins are up sharply in Greece. I would think that Bitcoin would be an even easier way to get some money OUT of Greece.

I would be looking very hard at buying BTC were I a Greek...

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Quote from: cuddaloreappu on February 16, 2015, 08:23:29 PM

talks between greece and European union have failed miserably and now if this continues the eurozone will break down with greece exit and euro will tumble down..

financial markets across world will have shocks from this..greece will have to find a new currency..

A lot of capital will flow out of greece which means there is a chance that people will use bitcoin to protect their money..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSnAyJ_0AmU

wait ..what?! people are going to use bitcoin to protect their money? like they did last time and lost 80% of their investment..
I agree the situation looks bad for them, but i doubt that it has anything to do with bitcoin.
And EUR stability wont be affected much by this, its only Greece, its small and miserable, EU will swallow it, like it allways did.
cheers

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Been saying it all along and I got told as a crazy individual by claiming Greece would go out of the EUR. It's happening guys.

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Impose capital controls in Greece or repeat the mistake of Cyprus

Anyone in Greece should be preparing for this now.

Check this article out today:
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/607c4bd4-b5e9-11e4-a577-00144feab7de.html?siteedition=intl#axzz3S0aNG78l

By Hans-Werner Sinn

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Another crisis, another insidious bout of capital flight. In Greece today, as in Cyprus three years ago, depositors are withdrawing bundles of euro notes to be spirited out of the country. Most of all, investors are rushing to make electronic transfers to banks elsewhere in the eurozone. In December 2014 alone, €7.6bn were sent abroad, equivalent to about 4 per cent of Greece’s economic output.

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In 2012, Cyprus was in a similar bind. Wealthy Cypriots (and foreigners who had deposits there) tried to whisk their funds to safer places, draining liquidity from the island’s banks and threatening them with insolvency.

The Cypriot central bank kept the system afloat by lending out €11bn of newly created money under a protocol known as Emergency Liquidity Assistance. These funds were in effect borrowed from other eurozone central banks, which put euros into the new accounts outside Cyprus that were being set up by fleeing investors.
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Quote from: Brewins on February 16, 2015, 10:58:05 PM

Quote from: countryfree on February 16, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

Most if not all Euro zone countries have financial problems.

Greece and Portugal already caused trouble to Euro zone, Greece leaving might start a trust crisis or something

Let them see what happen when Greece default and Greece must ask to the market to loan money to the government.

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Quote from: Brewins on February 16, 2015, 10:58:05 PM

Quote from: countryfree on February 16, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

Most if not all Euro zone countries have financial problems.

Greece and Portugal already caused trouble to Euro zone, Greece leaving might start a trust crisis or something

So that is a good sign if they leave. Euro as currency for everyone was a bad idea after all. European Union must fall.

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i don't think it will have any impact on bitcoin price
but yes, it will affect EURO against other currencies
1USD = 1EUR seems possible

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Live and enjoy experiments

Most people in the market no longer expect BTC price responding to this kind of events, but... you never know, expect the unexpected.

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU

Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on February 16, 2015, 10:22:33 PM

Can someone tell me how all of this started exactly? Why is Greece having issues, moreover wanting to/having to ditch the Euro?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpTAuivTqKE#t=50m11s

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Quote from: countryfree on February 16, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

Most if not all Euro zone countries have financial problems.

Greece and Portugal already caused trouble to Euro zone, Greece leaving might start a trust crisis or something

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Biggest fail is to think that cyprus had any effect on BTC price at all.

Remember remember the 5th of November

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Reverse engineer from time to time

Can someone tell me how all of this started exactly? Why is Greece having issues, moreover wanting to/having to ditch the Euro?

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Quote from: countryfree on February 16, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

Lol, things may not be as simple as you think. Like said before by the poster above, domino effect will ensue. It's all about giving an image. This damages EUR image.

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If they do leave, high chances euro will be able to restructure back their system and grew stronger. However, more interesting is the impact on how Greece is going to find a way to settle back all the bailout funds provided to them from the eu countries. They cannot continue forever like this.

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU

Domino effect no matter how this plays out, things will be ugly.

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Quote from: countryfree on February 16, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

That is true but what if Spain, Portugal and Italy for example one day decide same as Greece? In my opinion, Greece is only test but lot of countries in EU have big debt problem.

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There's no reason why the Euro zone should explode because of one smallish country leaving the club.
Then, it's very different from Cyprus, there aren't many wealthy people with big assets in Greek banks.

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