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Topic: EU wants to Control the Internet and Destroy Bitcoin (Read 2122 times)

legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1002
European Union is going to nowhere limiting freedom and destroying what was bulit for ages in Europe.
This idea is just another example how EU is working and directing.

I think that this idea will cost lot of money. EU will collect PI. But in real Internet no one can control everything and therefore I doubt of what is a main reason Sad
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1965
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People have a way to circumvent things they do not want to conform to, be it in the form of formal protests or riots or just creating applications to bypass these restrictions. We have several examples of this, private VPN's / Tor / p2p networks and also Crypto currencies.

In the end, these people are voted into these positions and they can also be removed from these positions, if they do not conform to the needs of the people. ^smile^
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1225
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This is indeed a big thread to freedom of expression,people will resort to blackhat if ever they come to implement that  Europe is where freedom of speech started hundreds of years ago,their citizen will not allow that to happen..
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 251
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Well I think it's a pretty obvious choice - I would like to use an open-source password manager with 1 master password and everything else encrypted within it. Actually I have been using a password manager for a while already and I must say it's a very convenient way of storing all my important passwords in one place. Now it's possible for me to use 15 or 20 character long sophisticated passwords which are very hard to remember otherwise. I think people who are concerned about their online security won't submit to using their ID's for logging in to their accounts even if the government requires them to. There will always be a way for circumventing this obstacle.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1500
Funny read but worrying as well. Eu tried to control the currency and the bank interest is running in negative. But it is virtually impossible to control internet even after publishing government ID card for using internet.

Hackers know the ways to hide their ass. Now the normal people will also follow their ways. There are so many documents available in the internet on how to hide ur ass from the rest of the world. People will follow that.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1004
@RealBitcoin what if that bureaucrats will ensure you that they will keep your stored passwords encrypted for example by MD5 algorithm?
This way it will be really hard for someone to know your private passwords neither hackers nor authorities will have easy access to it.
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1050
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The greater issue I see here is Facebook not the EU. There are many websites that force people to log in with Facebook, and we must keep in mind that Facebook is a member of the PRISM US government surveillance program. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29

Avoiding the companies on this slide is a simple way to significantly reduce the risk of being spied upon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29#/media/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
That would be intresting to watch. Luckily you could transact bitconi without internet .. oh, only cash has such properties. Forgot.
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
Seriously, who will answer the poll with the second option. The way it is formulated even someone which is not anti-Brussels as me will never vote for that option !
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1009
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No I very much doubt it that this proposition for using personal ID as a means of login method will become mandatory at all. The EU officials are more likely trying to suggest this idea as an optional thing but I think it won't be successful anyway even if the bill gets passed. It's highly unlikely the EU users would prefer to share their personal information when they could continue using usernames and passwords as usual.

They will make it mandatory later....

Let me think, how should I store my password?

A) Open-source password manager that keeps passwords encrypted and 1 master password has to be remembered only
B) With bureocrats, that leave my personal ID info exposed to identity theft


It's a very hard choice folks!
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 1022
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when you sign a contract with an internet provider, you are already throwing away your identity imho, this is not much different
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1009
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It is not the first EU bureaucrats are proposing some outright awful legislation. I guess Europeans remember ACTA?
Also horrid inventions like SOPA and PIPA? Do you remember what happened back then?

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA

People will fight for free internet. It is the only medium that is left.

Indeed that was wonderful, even enemies join forces when there is a common threat.

But i fear they will package this as something unharmful, and slip it under our noses.

Tyrrany is always packaged in nice pink packages with pink wrapping.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1016
EU is a bunch of old people and they cant control even their economical situation how they will control something global like internet or how they can detroy something without borders like bitcoin?

If they destroy the internet they destroy bitcoin. Bitcoin cant exist without the internet.

They can not destroy the internet!
Even if they could, this would have huge impacts on so many industries that in hindsight they would highly regret having done so.
So don't worry mate!
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1047
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It's only a proposal, and it's not that different from what many websites are already doing.
When you register on facebook or linkedin, you are supposed to use your real ID. Same thing if you shop online. I guess what makes some politicians worry most is the travel websites where some companies offer the writing of fake comments as a service. You choose an hotel in Italy because you've read great comments about it, but they've all been written by Indians who have never left India. So it should not be compulsory, but there are many things where trust is important, hence the need for some control.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
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If using IDs to login becomes mandatory,i`ll stop using internet  Angry Angry Angry

What if someone hacks that system and steals all the ID information?

Bureaucratic idiots.... Angry

No I very much doubt it that this proposition for using personal ID as a means of login method will become mandatory at all. The EU officials are more likely trying to suggest this idea as an optional thing but I think it won't be successful anyway even if the bill gets passed. It's highly unlikely the EU users would prefer to share their personal information when they could continue using usernames and passwords as usual.
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 6382
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There will always be politicians with "funny" ideas. That doesn't mean that such idiotic things can and will happen.
But showing such "projects" in the newspaper increases the traffic and sales. It doesn't mean anything...
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1137
the last time i heard a funny news like this was US president talking about bitcoin (indirectly) which created a whole lot of meme about the swiss bank in your pocket thing. this one is not even close to it. Cheesy
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
its a fake news. how can they do so. is it possible for a state or so to control the world wide internet. not impossible. such kind of news always wandering in the market but of no use. these are just producing panic nothing less nothing more.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
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consumers should be able to choose the credentials by which they want to identify or authenticate themselves.


From this excerpt it doesn't look like they want to force people to use government/electronic IDs though. They're just proposing that online platforms offer people the option to use verifiable credentials. I think it's perfectly fine as long as people can choose not to use official IDs. One thing's for sure, people using their real credentials are a lot less likely to scam so when doing business these people will hold an advantage over those who prefer to remain anonymous. There are actually quite a few benefits to using official IDs.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
I think this stuff would not be taken seriously, especially commissioning.

What I noticed is the fact it is suggested that a Communist. Look at North Korea, Russia, with their current relic of communism. Total control, paranoid desire for all to follow due to the destruction by the authorities of the state, and hence the excitement and discontent of citizens. They want to stop it and to plant in prison as the novel "1984" Orwell - thoughtcrime.

"Council of Europe Secretary General concerned about Internet censorship: Rules for blocking and removal of illegal content must be transparent and proportionate"

The UN recognized the Internet access a basic right cheloveka.Soglasno document adopted by the UN information network dissemination should be as free and limited only to those situations where it may lead to a violation of someone's rights.

I do not believe this nonsense. Many countries use or plan to use Bitcoin. Global banks and traders also. No one will it all just to destroy.
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