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July 01, 2020, 03:47:31 PM
#94


Hello, @Zippy. Just wanted to say thank you for the opportunity. I had received the rewards for evaluation. I got to learn a bit above how hashing, making and using signatures work. I saw that TweetNaCl is available on github. I wanted to know if contributions are welcomed. I have a bit of experience working with frontend technologies. Once again, thank you. If there's a need for further evaluation in the future, I'm up for it.

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July 01, 2020, 02:26:31 PM
#93
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July 01, 2020, 07:49:54 AM
#92
Okay, then I know about it.
You not have to do this!
I was happy to do it...
Of course I'm happy about the extra payment... Thank you very much for this, again.
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July 01, 2020, 06:46:41 AM
#91
I've see you sent me another $10/BTCTC.
So, I've already received a total of $25/BTCTC from you instead $15/BTCTC!
Is that correct?
Otherwise I will gladly return the eventually false routed amount.
I provided a bonus because you went the extra mile with color coding and additional instructions. The extra effort is appreciated.
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June 30, 2020, 08:50:38 PM
#90
Anyways, please let me know I'm doing it correctly -


Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: KDSO1U8PsyxNvAV94iWqOPpbvVsGpxTFF6kiRC3u4Y7Zbb8507DMKDX3UOKH/jUjM4OI2iVDbYVefmOWQ3oWBw==
Public Key: 372Nwk1C2Dl10LV9cMS91D4deoksw0xKLDCXjU6heNs=


P.S. I forgot to save my private key so I generated a new one.
Thanks, this did verify, though it added a space to the hash as usual making it difficult to verify. I'd recommend saving your public key as that key  being an early evaluator is street cred for when the evaluation service is released.

Thank you, do I need to fix it? Or it's fine for now?
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with.
Well there is nothing broken with your message. Its just that any long hash copied and pasted from this forum seems to have space added when pasting the text. Tasks 3 and 4 are canceled as described above in my response to sinereinzz so you're now done with all tasks, thank you for your time! Optionally you can let me know if you understand the concept behind retrocast messaging transactions. I will relay payment within 24 hours.

Thanks for confirming this. I was a bit confused at the start, but after the detailed explanation, I believe now I understand the concept behind it.
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with in the future, thanks!
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June 30, 2020, 03:36:16 PM
#89
I've see you sent me another $10/BTCTC.
So, I've already received a total of $25/BTCTC from you instead $15/BTCTC!
Is that correct?
Otherwise I will gladly return the eventually false routed amount.
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June 30, 2020, 01:46:41 PM
#88
Interesting, slowly a puzzle of your words begins to fit together.
Of course it's a complex subject.
I admire your technical skill and thinking.
An effective application would be great, also to make it easier for me to understand and participate in everything without mistakes.
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June 30, 2020, 01:16:13 PM
#87
Task 2 of 4 Submission:

Evaluation:

Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: jlSdGzZ2AJeTFMg6eIvxIVIjv2rIsdgf4Zhi4UEVGSjF4KIOGgHfzcV+dyNnKCVkjNIqjJrd23KD2A/5Ues+Rg==
Signature: CbahL8t1TE/wp3pmNhSDQ7ubH1tQ2kjs7Fx0p3FD1Yp1T9anJVJNXnjXRDd4J52JSMBTCXlAgvAmCGh5F5yjCw==
Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=


Finally got it right. (Thanks to your new update). sad to hear it's the end of the evaluation. Can we become evaluators in the future when it goes live? Got to learn a thing a two. Thank you.
Good, I was able to verify this, thanks for your time! Yes, you can be a future evaluator, because we will be customizing TweetNaCl to be more Zenoribbon friendly if feathertone (who would be the dev for that) is up for that. He already coded something similar for RSA signatures, so maybe Wireguard standards will also be something realistic. The automated version is ideally no more difficult than what Bitcoin client is already doing though, involving simply running the app and it validates everything in the background.
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June 30, 2020, 01:04:06 PM
#86
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Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.
I am also very interested to learn more about Zenoribbon and to support you in your research as best as I can!
Thanks very much, I suppose I will create a Zenoribbon coding thread to copy all our developments to. I appreciate that offer and will keep you in my IM contact list!

As I just mentioned in the above comment, a coder (Triturian) is coding a communications-by-socket API that should be able to work as both a (paid or unpaid) remote service and as a local service. That API will allow the transaction ledger services to be automated and anonymous. So, the application API is being coded before the application itself.
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June 30, 2020, 12:49:40 PM
#85
If I may ask, what is your next step?
Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.

I meant what are your next steps for your project? The idea behind it interests me and I’m just curious as to where you go from here.
My overall thoughts is the idea is very promising, but as someone mentioned before, any time you have something manually done you open yourself up to potential scammers. It does seem that you have thought that part out so it isn’t as big of a worry as it might be.
One focus right now beyond a manual review security system (as currently uses the TweetNaCl page) is to release a general purpose "universal" API so that any and all "Service Cogs" can connect to each other which would include cogs for transaction of the claimchain ledger. A service cog is basically a web service (like chaimclain ledger evaluation service) that can just as easily be run solely for a local machine as it can be offered as a paid remote service. So, that API will likely use sockets so that there is little difference when a service is run locally compared to remotely.

A service cog will start out as a compliant python script that can function as an anonymous Tor service (in this case for Zenoribbon transaction processing). We really want such services to also be set up if possible, very importantly, over proxy service using one or more hops to enable regular browser interactions without .onion which is not yet widely supported by browsers. The point is to make it easy to set up and resell a device computing power for uncensored web hosting purposes, over Tor or proxy service. The general attitude is that if their is a will, there is a way. And if there is long hard work and dedication to such ends, this will all be accomplished.

The API uses a RAMDISK for memory with the encouragement for all Zenoribbon (or Zeronet) related service cogs to exclusively store all variables on the RAMDISK in human-readable text format. Transparency and total comprehension are really a key feature for Zenoribbon at all angles. The RAMDISK has been coded for release for Linux but has not been released yet. Technically its not a RAMDISK and is actually a tmpfs system, but Windows does not support that and so will need to be a RAMDISK on Windows. That code is due to be released in July.
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June 30, 2020, 08:54:26 AM
#84
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Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.
I am also very interested to learn more about Zenoribbon and to support you in your research as best as I can!
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June 30, 2020, 08:30:39 AM
#83
Task 2 of 4 Submission:

Evaluation:

Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: jlSdGzZ2AJeTFMg6eIvxIVIjv2rIsdgf4Zhi4UEVGSjF4KIOGgHfzcV+dyNnKCVkjNIqjJrd23KD2A/5Ues+Rg==
Signature: CbahL8t1TE/wp3pmNhSDQ7ubH1tQ2kjs7Fx0p3FD1Yp1T9anJVJNXnjXRDd4J52JSMBTCXlAgvAmCGh5F5yjCw==
Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=


Finally got it right. (Thanks to your new update). sad to hear it's the end of the evaluation. Can we become evaluators in the future when it goes live? Got to learn a thing a two. Thank you.
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June 30, 2020, 08:20:19 AM
#82
If I may ask, what is your next step?
Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.

I meant what are your next steps for your project? The idea behind it interests me and I’m just curious as to where you go from here.
My overall thoughts is the idea is very promising, but as someone mentioned before, any time you have something manually done you open yourself up to potential scammers. It does seem that you have thought that part out so it isn’t as big of a worry as it might be.
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June 30, 2020, 08:13:28 AM
#81
If I may ask, what is your next step?
Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.
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June 30, 2020, 07:47:49 AM
#80
Anyways, please let me know I'm doing it correctly -


Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: KDSO1U8PsyxNvAV94iWqOPpbvVsGpxTFF6kiRC3u4Y7Zbb8507DMKDX3UOKH/jUjM4OI2iVDbYVefmOWQ3oWBw==
Public Key: 372Nwk1C2Dl10LV9cMS91D4deoksw0xKLDCXjU6heNs=


P.S. I forgot to save my private key so I generated a new one.
Thanks, this did verify, though it added a space to the hash as usual making it difficult to verify. I'd recommend saving your public key as that key  being an early evaluator is street cred for when the evaluation service is released.

Thank you, do I need to fix it? Or it's fine for now?
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with.
Well there is nothing broken with your message. Its just that any long hash copied and pasted from this forum seems to have space added when pasting the text. Tasks 3 and 4 are canceled as described above in my response to sinereinzz so you're now done with all tasks, thank you for your time! Optionally you can let me know if you understand the concept behind retrocast messaging transactions. I will relay payment within 24 hours.
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June 30, 2020, 07:46:00 AM
#79
If I may ask, what is your next step?
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June 30, 2020, 07:32:54 AM
#78
Task 2 of 4 Detailed Instructions:
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Nothing works with the public key you have transmitted! But this signature you have posted belongs to MY public key from my contribution in the last night!

I did exactly what you described, I think!
Evaluation:
Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: o8aYBduwhDPPss3IdVLeGqPreJQq7Vyoxwx+8zgMxi9WtgBMEkjp8oZmTAWYcBhjWc7tLYNu9djZlQSfHvEbBw==
Public Key: f74kSSFLWcz8qahPw2c6wEaaGBhacFgaP8zaADyk8BU=


Task 2 Complete, thanks for your time! So, everything is done for now on your end and will be paid. Tasks 3 and 4 and canceled but everyone will be paid as if they were done. While Zenoribbon now technically exists by the homestead claim, which was published as a retrocast message, and there was technically a transaction (the containerization), we don't plan more transactions until we design an EASY way to transact it manually. Manual transactions are supposed to be easy, but are not. So, we will design a better signature verification system. It will be nearly identical to the TweetNaCl page, but with warnings and instructions. Its up to feathertone, who puts together the security kit. feathertone already has a great RSA signature app but it the key lengths are unacceptable and so we'll get a Wireguard type kit, which is basically the TweetNaCl kit but slightly easier to use. RSA is still common but think about what this thread would look like using RSA!
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June 30, 2020, 07:27:57 AM
#77
Task 2 Correction:
The text as copied and pasted from the first link provided is actually:
CONTAINERIZATION
CONTAINER
ZR 0 to 1
CONTENT IDENTIFIER: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
CONTAINER IDENTIFIER: d9533c95c6a0d03e634b124f90c08c58800d3fb368b7f392ac698c66f140a6f7adf84ab27fa4f36 064f9817f17a1e578ee0d25e5c3fdb2c593a1e3f035c02b60
Hash of Containerization Text Above: SHA-512 Base64: a2041a22eec1a991d91fb71c40f6e88549ca64008f6df59834ad7b32e486221fb3f6db7f53738d6 9bd5d340a12b93cb96debcb819b6034d735acfd2d40d06a7c
Hash Signature and Transaction Identifier: Ed25519 TweetNaCl:
0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==

I copied and pasted from the wrong source! So, in any case, the signature would match in your evaluations. This is part of the reason why I'm doing this... to see just how hard it is to do the claims and evaluate manually. Not that easy to do correctly at least when your new at evaluating apparently. But we'll design tools to make it easier for a manual verification before we design the automated tool.

Should I verify this again with the new data?

It'll only take ~3 hours, I'm just at my work now!
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June 30, 2020, 07:22:38 AM
#76
Anyways, please let me know I'm doing it correctly -


Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: KDSO1U8PsyxNvAV94iWqOPpbvVsGpxTFF6kiRC3u4Y7Zbb8507DMKDX3UOKH/jUjM4OI2iVDbYVefmOWQ3oWBw==
Public Key: 372Nwk1C2Dl10LV9cMS91D4deoksw0xKLDCXjU6heNs=


P.S. I forgot to save my private key so I generated a new one.
Thanks, this did verify, though it added a space to the hash as usual making it difficult to verify. I'd recommend saving your public key as that key  being an early evaluator is street cred for when the evaluation service is released.

Thank you, do I need to fix it? Or it's fine for now?
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with.
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June 30, 2020, 07:02:15 AM
#75
Anyways, please let me know I'm doing it correctly -


Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: KDSO1U8PsyxNvAV94iWqOPpbvVsGpxTFF6kiRC3u4Y7Zbb8507DMKDX3UOKH/jUjM4OI2iVDbYVefmOWQ3oWBw==
Public Key: 372Nwk1C2Dl10LV9cMS91D4deoksw0xKLDCXjU6heNs=


P.S. I forgot to save my private key so I generated a new one.
Thanks, this did verify, though it added a space to the hash as usual making it difficult to verify. I'd recommend saving your public key as that key  being an early evaluator is street cred for when the evaluation service is released.
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