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March 09, 2024, 01:16:58 AM
#91
It's sad to hear what happened to those Brighton fans in Rome. I may not be a sports fan, but it's important to be cautious and responsible when traveling to watch in foreign countries. Avoid showing off, prioritize safety, beware of surroundings and local laws, and respect customs to avoid getting into trouble and ensure a safe and enjoyable experience.
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March 09, 2024, 12:00:49 AM
#90
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Woah, talk about some crazy stuff. You just never know these days you've got to be careful out there. Especially in a foreign country and if you are with your friends - drinking- etc etc things could get ugly and fast. What an unfortunate occurance. At the same time if you're on an opposing teams turn you better make sure you act accordingly, there are so many drunk idiots out there that do some really stupid shit, lol.
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March 08, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
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The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.
This is why there are really people who are really that tend to go into stadium or any event place just because they do want to feel up the vibe and it is really that in different ambiance if you are with that the crowd.
This isnt something that you could really be able to experience when you are playing or watching in your own home. This is why even some people do know about the risks involved when it comes to this but still they dont bother. We cant really be able to make out that kind of generalization in all places to be something like this. Its not bad to have some fun without having those kind of doubts and having that kind of control when it comes to actions. The most important part that you do really need to consider out on your actions which it could trigger those possible aggression on which this is something that should be avoided.

Exactly, you have said the biggest reason why people prefer to watch live at the stadium, even though it requires you to spend a sum of money that may not be small for the need to buy tickets or for other needs while you are there, when in fact there are other options that are not troublesome, namely by watching the match at home via broadcast, but this is the difference and you have said the truth that indeed we will feel a very different atmosphere when we are in a crowd of people who support each other's team by singing various slogans and that is indeed exciting.

While when you just watch at home then there will not be too exhilarating chemistry that you feel and maybe you just smile without any lively excitement like when you watch it live at the stadium. Honestly a few years ago in my place also happened bad things like the case mentioned by the OP when the local team that has been an enemy for a long time competed and in the end the situation became so hot and uncontrollable that the match was not even continued and the incident sacrificed dozens of supporters died, but yes, people have never been kapok to watch live. So the point is that what becomes a problem or what can trigger problems is when you are unable to control yourself which can have fatal consequences, if you want to stay safe then you must realize that watching live matches is nothing more than an entertainment event from the excitement of the atmosphere, your goal is only there for entertainment as well as supporting the team of pride and not to trigger possible problems.
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March 08, 2024, 02:45:55 PM
#88

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
Discouraging to the fact that you had fans of a club at your home ground, you chose to welcome them wrongly by stabbing some of them, forgetting that your team and fans would someday come to this people's home ground that you all treated wrongly.

Football games are supposed to be fun and enjoying but some fans are taking it too personally of them to showcase a hateful attitude that if you don't support the team that they are fans too, you have no courage to talk bad against the team they are fan too
Lets not generalized just that because someone stabbed then it would be not already a good place to visit on. Of course it would really be basing up on how many times it did happen and if its already that rampant then it would really be that common sense that you would really be needing to avoid on going into that place but if not then having fun and going into other places isnt really that a bad idea.
Its true that the fun that you would really be able to experience on the time that you do go into those venues or places is that on totally different when you do watch it on your pc screen.

This is why you could really be able to see those fans or bettors who would really be going into those venues just to have that kind of experiencing the real essence that you are on the actual
game on which it isnt really just that because you are betting but also you are showing some support into the team that you are looking forward into.
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March 08, 2024, 02:38:19 PM
#87

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
Discouraging to the fact that you had fans of a club at your home ground, you chose to welcome them wrongly by stabbing some of them, forgetting that your team and fans would someday come to this people's home ground that you all treated wrongly.

Football games are supposed to be fun and enjoying but some fans are taking it too personally of them to showcase a hateful attitude that if you don't support the team that they are fans too, you have no courage to talk bad against the team they are fan too
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March 08, 2024, 08:42:35 AM
#86
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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The report didn't say the visitors were showy like putting on their club jerseys and chanting their club songs. The information is sketchy and it's not certain if the attack was football related. According to the report, the attackers wore masks, meaning they were prepared. IMO, a fight couldn't have sprang up as a result of a disagreement between the rival fans. I think the attackers wanted to make a statement or they were just thieves as the personal belongings of the visitors were also stolen.
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March 08, 2024, 08:18:53 AM
#85
Who knows? This is a psychological thing; weaken the morale of your opponent and there is nothing much they can do in terms of defense and the game yesterday spoke volumes. It was as if Brighton knew that to score a goal will bring about chaos and had to play like they were inexperienced. What are the local authorities doing about this and is there no way the victims can file a report?
 You're right, fans need to be careful when going on things like this but then again it's not as if they know the area is not safe and they still go ahead all in the name of sportsmanship, besides there were more people who went for the game, it's just too unfortunate that they had to be victims. I pray for their speedy recovery, though.
Yep, Brighton played very poor today, the criminals probably happy because their effort gives a result, or they could be a paid criminal. This is really bad for Brighton, I don't see any chance for them to make a comeback.

The victims should need to focus to recover themselves, but I believe someone behalf of them already make a report, not sure if the police have caught the criminals or not yet. Correct, it's just unfortunate.
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March 08, 2024, 08:14:49 AM
#84
i'm also concerned about what the two supporters experienced. but this is a problem that might occur when watching a football match, because we don't know what other people are bringing and what they will do to other people. in my opinion, just being careful is not enough, but that is the important role of stakeholders from match organizers to be able to sterilize the stadium area and outside the stadium from sharp objects or other objects which could potentially threaten someone's life. so that incidents like this can be avoided and people can be more comfortable and not have to worry about their personal safety.
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March 08, 2024, 08:09:28 AM
#83
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


Football is one of the sports where they have blind supporters who hate everything that relates to their opponent, I have seen so many incidents like this, like riots, stabbings, and mauling from people coming from the country that beat their favorite team, I agree with your suggestion if you're a tourist or a visitor you should know your limitation and get to know the people on the place you're visiting.
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March 08, 2024, 08:05:00 AM
#82
This is really saddening and at the same time disheartening and if caste isn’t taken, it will reduce the quest for people to travel to other countries for the sake of football and this is actually a wake up to every fan lover to stay very careful and extremely vigilant of their environment and not just when they travel to other countries as this can also happen to anyone and in any country when the show off is really more than expected, it might turn offensive and something bad might happen and that’s why it is always advisable to stay extremely careful when jubilations and celebrations as you might not know who you’re offending.
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March 08, 2024, 07:39:26 AM
#81
Things like this among football fans happen in almost every country, this is clearly the umpteenth incident and what is even worse is that there are quite lot of cases where fights between football team supporters have resulted in large riots and resulted in several people losing their lives.
Incidents like this are actually very unfortunate because football is sport that is full of excitement when as fan can watch proud team compete live.
Not all football fans have this kind of behavior, but similar incidents still occur quite often in the current era.

We must be able to take care of ourselves and always be careful of anyone because truly fanatical supporter will do anything to other supporters that they feel they don't like.
Incidents like this really create negative sentiment among football fans and of course become the focus of various media reporting on them.
My advice is to always look for truly comfortable and safe place when watching football match in another region or in another country because no one knows the intentions and attitudes of other people who meet us in the stadium.
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March 08, 2024, 06:56:44 AM
#80
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 

The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.
This is why there are really people who are really that tend to go into stadium or any event place just because they do want to feel up the vibe and it is really that in different ambiance if you are with that the crowd.
This isnt something that you could really be able to experience when you are playing or watching in your own home. This is why even some people do know about the risks involved when it comes to this but still they dont bother. We cant really be able to make out that kind of generalization in all places to be something like this. Its not bad to have some fun without having those kind of doubts and having that kind of control when it comes to actions. The most important part that you do really need to consider out on your actions which it could trigger those possible aggression on which this is something that should be avoided.
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March 08, 2024, 06:04:43 AM
#79
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Football banter has always been fias battle in Italy especially Rome. However I expect the home team to do more in terms of providing more security for visiting teams and their fans both on and of the pitch because situations like these if not properly handled it could snowball into serious football rivalry that can be dangerous, because the English fans will be waiting for a day or time Roman fans will come back to England for a match for them to retaliate on the attack that was given to them, and the circle will continue over and over again if unabited.
The Romans fans shouldn't be angry if visiting team are having some showoff because it's part of football, is part of the bragging right of football fans across the world.
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March 08, 2024, 05:19:39 AM
#78
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 

The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.
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March 08, 2024, 04:53:00 AM
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It's so weird to me that the intensity of these sporting events can lead to this kind of things happening, damn, stabbing someone because they're not a fan of your team and that they support the other team? That's just stupid and crazy, I don't even think that it's because they've got some kind of money on the line there, the more intense the fan is and rabid they are, the less likely that they've got a money on the line that's on their team. I don't really get people that are like this though, do the players or the team even know that they do exist or remotely know them personally? I could some intensity in the heat of the moment but to get to that point where you hurt others to release that frustrations, that's just horrible in my opinion, ain't no way that it can be justified. That's why I don't go to stadiums to watch sporting events, this type of situation is what I'm scared of, thank God for the television and livestreaming, less chances of getting stabbed by an angry sore loser of a fan.

it's also worrying to hear such incidents especially since there are really many fans who want to watch the game. As usual, the team they admire doesn't know them so they can hurt each other just because they are different from the team they support, and we don't control other people's minds, why don't we just let them choose who they want to support, right? Surely there are other reasons why they have reached the point of being hurt and possibly even resorting to violence. Since Live telecast via online is now a trend, it seems like it's better to just watch it that way, at least you know you're safe inside your home.
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March 08, 2024, 04:14:48 AM
#76
It's so weird to me that the intensity of these sporting events can lead to this kind of things happening, damn, stabbing someone because they're not a fan of your team and that they support the other team? That's just stupid and crazy, I don't even think that it's because they've got some kind of money on the line there, the more intense the fan is and rabid they are, the less likely that they've got a money on the line that's on their team. I don't really get people that are like this though, do the players or the team even know that they do exist or remotely know them personally? I could some intensity in the heat of the moment but to get to that point where you hurt others to release that frustrations, that's just horrible in my opinion, ain't no way that it can be justified. That's why I don't go to stadiums to watch sporting events, this type of situation is what I'm scared of, thank God for the television and livestreaming, less chances of getting stabbed by an angry sore loser of a fan.
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March 08, 2024, 03:38:39 AM
#75
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
For fanatical supporters, they have a different way of supporting than ordinary supporters, they will not even hesitate to commit criminal acts if they meet opposing supporters. In my country this also happens very often, especially if it is two teams that have a very high rivalry, this will be balanced by the rivalry of the supporters too. This is indeed a very unfortunate thing to happen in football, with this bad incident indirectly tarnishing the good name of the sport itself.
Interestingly, this seems to be a tradition passed down from generation to generation, even though it has claimed many victims, they will continue to do it. There are lots of similar cases, although perhaps now bad incidents have decreased more than in the past. However, even though it is decreasing, it cannot be a justification for what a few people do. I would call this an individual, because those who act like this are a small part of the existing supporters. In fact, they are the ones who harm other supporters or even harm the team they like.

There will always be crimes, no matter what place you are in. Maybe it just highlighted Rome in this case as obviously, there are a lot of teams and fans in that city and they are really die hard fanatics and could start a fight or brawl after the game and there could be stabbing as we all know, they could be carried away with emotions and their decision is clouded and will do to protect their clubs.

Yes, this could be an isolated case and I don't think this happens very frequently. But if it did though, for sure it will garner a lot of attentions for media and portray the city as not safe. I don't think it will change as well, we just need to be very careful, not to harm anyone or protect ourselves at all times.
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March 08, 2024, 03:12:41 AM
#74
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It is not the first time that such violent are happening because of football. Even inside the stadium you see something like insults from fans to player based on racism and throwing things at them. It's just normal to see people act out of anxiety.
People or groups of fans like this are fans who are too fanatical about the club they support, and this is also a matter of who is stronger as a loyal supporter.
You must know Indonesia which is a country full of hustle and bustle of very fanatical fans such as Bonex, Vikings and several other fan clubs.

There was even a dark incident that happened at the Malang Kanjuruhan Stadium in 2022 which killed hundreds of supporters because they were dissatisfied with the results of the Arema Malang Vs Persebaya match.
This is the most memorable incident to date, because some fanatical supporters who became provocateurs made conditions even more conducive.

https://fulcrum.sg/indonesias-kanjuruhan-stadium-tragedy/
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March 08, 2024, 02:54:57 AM
#73
The conclusion is don't travel to Rome or you could be stabbed. Grin

I think they want to give a physiologic effect to Brighton players, so they're playing with feeling in anxious. Roma should be in favored position, there's no way for them to lose.

As a sport fan, of course it's nothing new when the fanatic fans will do anything in order to destroy the opponent fans. We can see it in anywhere especially on Ronaldo vs Messi debates.
Who knows? This is a psychological thing; weaken the morale of your opponent and there is nothing much they can do in terms of defense and the game yesterday spoke volumes. It was as if Brighton knew that to score a goal will bring about chaos and had to play like they were inexperienced. What are the local authorities doing about this and is there no way the victims can file a report?
 You're right, fans need to be careful when going on things like this but then again it's not as if they know the area is not safe and they still go ahead all in the name of sportsmanship, besides there were more people who went for the game, it's just too unfortunate that they had to be victims. I pray for their speedy recovery, though.
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March 08, 2024, 02:45:22 AM
#72
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
For fanatical supporters, they have a different way of supporting than ordinary supporters, they will not even hesitate to commit criminal acts if they meet opposing supporters. In my country this also happens very often, especially if it is two teams that have a very high rivalry, this will be balanced by the rivalry of the supporters too. This is indeed a very unfortunate thing to happen in football, with this bad incident indirectly tarnishing the good name of the sport itself.
Interestingly, this seems to be a tradition passed down from generation to generation, even though it has claimed many victims, they will continue to do it. There are lots of similar cases, although perhaps now bad incidents have decreased more than in the past. However, even though it is decreasing, it cannot be a justification for what a few people do. I would call this an individual, because those who act like this are a small part of the existing supporters. In fact, they are the ones who harm other supporters or even harm the team they like.
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