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March 07, 2024, 12:14:32 PM
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It is very bad, and that is man inhumanity to man. Stabbing someone who came on a vacation to watch a match should not be treated as such. That is a pure wickedness I don't know how football fan takes arguments or banters so seriously while the footballers are making there money on a cool way every week while some people kill themselves for nothing the funny part is that a footballer would play for a club this season and maybe baught by another club nest year. You can see that footballers don't keep malice because there business is not a permanent business which a club can hire you at any moment. Somany youth have lost there life due to gamble anguement yet this footballers in question is waxing stronger and making money every week. It pains me to see that poor minded people kill themself all because of football anguement.

Please let us control our tongues and know what to ague about that will not cut our life short all in the name of gambling argument because it has taken alot of life. Let Us not lost our life for people that are making there money. Just take a look at players like Messi and Ronaldo how long they have been in football yet I haven't heard anything about them arguing but they make their money an becomes more popular.
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March 07, 2024, 12:10:23 PM
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Edit: BBC provide a better information, "Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome" here is the link https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-68501921

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Brighton fan Joey Thorpe told BBC Radio Sussex: "We were walking home from a bar and being casual, no chanting and in normal clothes. We just got jumped from behind by about six guys all in balaclavas, all wearing black and hiding their faces."
There is no indication whether the attackers were Roma supporters.

I thought as much, thank you for this link and the information. This is why it's very necessary to read the content of the news before assuming anything. The bloggers nowadays mislead people with their attention catching headlines. I was wondering how such thing would happen when securities are around to protect every fans.

However, the way some fan base react to opponents fans when their team lost a match as if their life depend on it is very uncalled for. Sometimes, I do avoid watching match in a public viewing center because of things like this. Some people are not tolerating at all and can get angry unnecessarily. Football in particular is a game of fun and your team can not be a loser forever. When you are mocked for losing today, you might win tomorrow and laugh. There's no point in harming someone supporting a different team no matter how they mock your team.
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March 07, 2024, 11:47:02 AM
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In my opinion, cases like these are things that happen every day, unfortunately there are people who leave their homes and stay on the streets to commit crimes and when you investigate the case well you will discover that the criminals who keep committing these types of crimes are people who They have financial conditions that allow them to live without depending on crimes, so they commit these crimes for pleasure. in other words, they are sick people who, in addition to being arrested, sentenced to spend years in prison, must also have psychological support, if there are cameras in many streets in that place, it may be possible to identify the criminals, I know that in this article it says that the criminals were covered by masks on their faces, but having cameras in every corner of the city

At some point these criminals will remove the masks from their faces and with this the cameras will capture their faces and with computer programs it will be possible to identify who they are and the police will be able to arrest them. now this is something shameful for Italy, which must invest more in security, although cases like these are in frightening numbers in all countries, countries must still start investing a lot in security, increase the number of police on the streets, increase cameras in cities , increase the security budget. Rich countries focus a lot on increasing the budget for the military and forget about the police and as a consequence we see cases like these
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March 07, 2024, 11:40:39 AM
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May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

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Lol, they didn't die...

Okay I now understand better well anything anyone is doing let's just be careful and guided thanks alot for your humble opinion and response...

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The force said they have spoken to the men in hospital and they are "OK".
Moreover, how are these news related to gambling? It's not even related to the soccer match itself, since the two English men were stabbed on a neighbourhood, near Colosseum, by a group of six or seven masked people. It was probably a robbery attempt and not a fight among soccer fans.

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.
That is a common crime, like we use to see in third world countries in a daily basis. What shocks here is that Italy wasn't supposed to be presenting this kind of scenario to their tourists, considering it's a first world country in the heart of western European continent. Criminality is spreading fast in Europe these days. Right after the attack, 1000 police officers were deployed to the streets, however, why didn't they do this before the occurred? After all, it's better to be safe than sorry.
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March 07, 2024, 11:37:57 AM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.
Fans banter has always been something we have Experienced over the years and it's not just found across Europe alone but also in other countries where they do play football and other sports so it's very important we stay away from it because just like this which has been reported, some can actually be very intensed to the point it could claim lives but if we  avoid them well enough, we wouldn't have to be victims to know how such things happen, sometimes been careful about the banter may not be enough as some one can just be affected just by been around the area where such is happening, been conscious of our location too at some point is key and important.

Especially in away games fans should be careful not to be the reason a problem is started so they don't eventually get into issues that will cost them their lives or resources even, going to enjoy the game and go back home there after should be the aim of the fans and not to go make trouble.
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March 07, 2024, 11:16:34 AM
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May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

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Lol, they didn't die...

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The force said they have spoken to the men in hospital and they are "OK".
Moreover, how are these news related to gambling? It's not even related to the soccer match itself, since the two English men were stabbed on a neighbourhood, near Colosseum, by a group of six or seven masked people. It was probably a robbery attempt and not a fight among soccer fans.

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.
That is a common crime, like we use to see in third world countries in a daily basis. What shocks here is that Italy wasn't supposed to be presenting this kind of scenario to their tourists, considering it's a first world country in the heart of western European continent. Criminality is spreading fast in Europe these days. Right after the attack, 1000 police officers were deployed to the streets, however, why didn't they do this before the occurred? After all, it's better to be safe than sorry.
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March 07, 2024, 10:43:27 AM
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So sad my condolences to their beloved families we have to be very careful with anything I am doing more to anything called competition. As a person when you go to a foreign land you just have to be very careful on a normal not to talk of competitive stuff that involves crowd which is supporting differently this is something we should know that no body will come to your house and make jest of you then you will be Happy and comfortable with that act only you should be able to understand this...

I wonder why you will go to someone's country a foreign land as football fan you went then and start been nonchalant of yourself  making alot of noice showingoff more than the host team immensely now it has leads to uncessary banter which leads to your death I am not happy with the whole thing but we should learn how to comport ourselves not everything we will take to heart start making troubles and problems for Yourself and other people......

As a visitor where ever you go try be very  reserved and behave yourself immensely........

May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

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March 07, 2024, 10:38:57 AM
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This is very bad to hear. How can fans be stabbed all because they are not supporting their club in a country that is not theirs. I will not say that foreigners should be careful but the stabber should be known and be given the right punishment like to imprison him or her for years if the fans did not die or sentence him with capital punishment if any of the fans die.
Yeah those suspects don't respect other peoples decision especially supporting the rival team. Though different races, cultures, behaviors and attitudes but we don't really know the whole story here maybe they are having verbal atercations which is very common between supporters in a sports but yeah we should not be hostile or being provocative to other supporters just to avoid some kind of danger. We should also maintain awareness to our surroundings stay out of the aggressive crowds that might cause any injuries if something bad will happen.
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March 07, 2024, 10:23:14 AM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.



That's very alarming, considering the victims come from foreign soil and just come to show support to their team, the perpetrators are ultra-supporters, and the authorities should see to it that such a thing will not happen again or they will lose foreign visitors and revenues coming from tourists and the government of other countries will issue travel alerts for that country.

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Police have said 1000 officers will be deployed at the match.
I don't think this is enough they should employ more CCTV and civilian officers, football is one of the games where there are so many fanatics and they will go to the point of harming the fans of the opposite team, to bent their anger and frustration whenever their favorite team losses a game.
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March 07, 2024, 10:19:58 AM
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Quote from: Agbamoni link=topic=5487928.msg63771510#msg63771510

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

football comes with a whole lots of intrigues and emotions and sometimes supporters takes it almost more serious than the players and team management. It's very normal for most supporters to go all out to show their love for a particular team and I can say that it's one of the factors that makes soccer what it is at the moment.

Coming down to this context, going too extreme to the extent of killing an opponents fan is not just irresponsible and uncalled for, it's a crime that is punishable by the law. The least thing the club should do is to to take all necessary measure  measures that will see to it that the perpetrator of the act is brought to book. You can't be careful enough and everyone has the right to support whoever team he chooses to without fear of being intimidated or molested be the host team. If this isn't taken seriously, events like this will repeat itself and with time fans will become scared to wash games outside of their home.
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March 07, 2024, 10:11:48 AM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


This is why you should be in a low key mode if you are foreign in an area when watching sports with fan based. There’s always a die hard fan that resorting to violence once their home team didn’t win the game while the foreign guys support the enemy team since it’s hot in the eyes of home fans.

This is always happening in my country even on a small sports tournament locally. People that is just visiting is always being a victim of harassment and violence just because their team is winning while they arr supporting hard.
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March 07, 2024, 10:10:54 AM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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The reasons people watch football while on vacation is because they needed some entertainment. It's not right to involve in argument that involve life and death, as a stranger in a place you haven't been to before or a place you are not familiar with try not to put yourself in trouble. It is only trouble that will make such incident to happen. IMO the two Brighton fans were there for entertainment but ended with a qural that involves injuries. Let's learn from them. The people that also stabbed the Brighton fans might be the fans of the Brighton opponents.

The link didn't say they were arguing with those 7 men, the two were just tourists and watching the game. The article is just not saying anything about how it happened.

But obviously, those 7 men who attacked them knew they were tourists and knew they are going to be helpless if they robbed them.
What is crazy is that they separated the two, each of them is treated in a different hospital.
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March 07, 2024, 10:01:07 AM
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Some fans are fanatical, are the youth who support Brighton rioting or what?

But clearly this is not something good and even bad behavior where they or some tourists will be afraid if they are approaching this exciting news. And with the pleasure of watching the Europa League match will end up being tragic for them because it is too risky when it happens like this.
Better to watch football from home while betting it will be fun too. But I admit that watching live matches will be more different sensations.
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March 07, 2024, 09:56:50 AM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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The reasons people watch football while on vacation is because they needed some entertainment. It's not right to involve in argument that involve life and death, as a stranger in a place you haven't been to before or a place you are not familiar with try not to put yourself in trouble. It is only trouble that will make such incident to happen. IMO the two Brighton fans were there for entertainment but ended with a qural that involves injuries. Let's learn from them. The people that also stabbed the Brighton fans might be the fans of the Brighton opponents.
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March 07, 2024, 09:56:40 AM
#16
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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That's very sad, sometimes I keep imaging how someone will just stabbed his follow human for no just cause. is very sympathetic I just pray those victims survive the incident,football is just part of intertainment and also for fun,I'm still  wondering why  fans always make a big deal out of it.
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March 07, 2024, 09:56:15 AM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
This is the thing that i dont like when trying out to go into other places on which you are really that having that kind of hesitation when it comes safety or security. You cant really be able to make yourself having
that kind of fun just because you are really that minding about having other people would really be having that kind of intent on which they might be touched up on the time that you do cheer up on your favorite team
and turns out that they do get offended and they would really be that trying out to do harm into you without you knowing or noticing and this is one of the reason on why i dont really like
in going into those other places not unless if we are talking about home.

When it comes to security then you should really be that careful because you dont know on how people been thinking off you, not unless if the said city does have that less crime rate
then i might be that confident but if not then you would really be skeptical on going into these places.
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March 07, 2024, 09:47:09 AM
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No one can tell if there was an argument between the two stabbed Brighton fans, and the five Romans. From my own perspective, I think that they were attacked, as the visitors were easily noticed by the indigenes of Rome. Why I said so is because, their wallets was stolen, so it might be that they were robbed by street gangsters.

Travelling to another country to support your club to me is touring, and that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be vigilant with people around us or careful, because it is not everyone that we see have good mind for strangers, some can take advantage of you as a visitor and steal from your or kill you in the process of stealing from you. We should also not involve in any argument over there. I am happy that the two Brighton fans did not die.
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March 07, 2024, 09:32:29 AM
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There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

I understand the caution aspect of it that you are trying to move into but football and fans go together and fans need to be protected especially in foreign land. If every fan is that careful then people won't travel to watch teams play. There is a responsibility that home fans should have over their strangers, to hit a fan is different from stabbing or causing bodily injury, that is purely a case of attempted murder and not just assault to the victims. The police are already on their case and I believe they will get them and punish them so that it will also be a lesson to other fans . I know Italian fans are violent but they don't have to inflict injury on the fans when it is not a crowd fight.
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March 07, 2024, 09:30:01 AM
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You see those sets of people called "die-hard fans." They can go to any length when an argument is raised against their supporting team. When ever one comes across such a set of people, the best thing to do is to avoid them and walk away because they can do some crazy stuff just to prove a point. 
 
This incident might be a result of disagreement between those who lost their lives and those who perpetuate that act. It's very heartbreaking for the relatives of those people who lost their lives to travel alive and come back home in a body bag.
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March 07, 2024, 09:29:30 AM
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I think it's only in my country where the price of a person's life seems cheap just because of fanatical football fans, I'm sure everyone doesn't agree with that, every home fan must give priority to the visiting supporters, no matter who visits, apart from that, visiting supporters must also You can really respect the home fans so that undesirable things don't happen, I believe that by maintaining behavior and attitudes that are not excessive, everything will be safe, sometimes the supporters are now very fanatical in an excessive way.

I read about the victim's wallet being stolen which means there is another motive besides the banter said by the OP from the two supporters, I know that it is not easy to protect ourselves in another country because any security definitely depends on ourselves, I am also not a football supporter who is a very fanatic or someone who likes watching live football events from their favorite team, I just think simply, namely watching at home is more calm and comfortable for me than watching live, especially in another country, even though it is my favorite team. I think a case like this will definitely be resolved easily by the existing security forces.  Wink
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