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June 11, 2014, 02:43:46 AM
#69
not to sound like a luddite, but it seems like we're starting to see a shift in the service industry, which is america's biggest labor pool. once things like that get automated, where will the jobs go? especially in the low skilled industries.

prior to that, jobs in factories and skilled labor were overtaken by improved technology. technology is not the same thing as AI. there's a difference in creating a car are much more cost-effective rates vs. firing all of your mcdonalds employees.

This is from my limited understanding of the situation:

Three decades ago, most of the American population was employed in jobs which required a lot of manual labor, such as coal mining and construction. But with the advancement of technology, the scope for such jobs have declined. Now most of the the population is employed in supermarkets (the biggest single provider of jobs in the US, if I am correct) and other service sector jobs. Requires less manual labor, is safer, and at the same time the average salaries are much higher.

yes, and that's why i said ai + technology would undo the middle class. the thing is, you said most of the labor pool was in the manufacturing/coal mining.. and that's true. what it did was shift from manufacture jobs to the service industry.

what i'm saying is that ai technology will remove the jobs required from the service industry, as it previously did with manufacturing. well then, where do people concentrate on jobs when the services field is overrun by robots?
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June 11, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
#68
not to sound like a luddite, but it seems like we're starting to see a shift in the service industry, which is america's biggest labor pool. once things like that get automated, where will the jobs go? especially in the low skilled industries.

prior to that, jobs in factories and skilled labor were overtaken by improved technology. technology is not the same thing as AI. there's a difference in creating a car are much more cost-effective rates vs. firing all of your mcdonalds employees.

This is from my limited understanding of the situation:

Three decades ago, most of the American population was employed in jobs which required a lot of manual labor, such as coal mining and construction. But with the advancement of technology, the scope for such jobs have declined. Now most of the the population is employed in supermarkets (the biggest single provider of jobs in the US, if I am correct) and other service sector jobs. Requires less manual labor, is safer, and at the same time the average salaries are much higher.
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June 11, 2014, 02:32:10 AM
#67
21st century.. AI, robots.. and how it affects the human economy. more and more, we're going to see our jobs taken over by robots. that's going to lead to a decrease in jobs, which means a wider gap between the people who own and operate the robots and the people who don't. inequality is inevitable.

Oh.. again. The introduction of robots hasn't resulted in unemployment. Rather, it has resulted in commodities getting cheaper. For example, a car which cost some $20,000 to build earlier, was made available for $2,000. Innovation and new technology does more good than harm to the humans (off course with some exceptions like Nuclear weapons).

Technology and automation has resulted in less jobs and lower paying jobs for the masses (it has created a few higher paying jobs for the people who design the automation tools).

Technology does allow everyone to live a better standard of living.

Even Nuclear weapons can be a good thing. They have probably prevented wars from breaking out between countries that have nuclear weapons. The cold war is a good example of this. The US and the former USSR were in an arms race for years and used spies against each-other but never actually attacked each-other with military forces.

I have to agree. There was a very strong deterrent for even getting into a direct shooting war due to the possibility of an escalation to a nuclear exchange. Our arsenal is part of the reason no nation state has attacked the homeland since 1812.
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June 11, 2014, 02:25:15 AM
#66
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Even Nuclear weapons can be a good thing. They have probably prevented wars from breaking out between countries that have nuclear weapons. The cold war is a good example of this. The US and the former USSR were in an arms race for years and used spies against each-other but never actually attacked each-other with military forces.

They never attacked each other en-mass, that's true; but there were a number of small scale conflicts that we were lucky didn't escalate. And I use the word "lucky" in this context intentionally; the Cuban missile crisis is a good example of why, though there are several others.

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not to sound like a luddite, but it seems like we're starting to see a shift in the service industry, which is america's biggest labor pool. once things like that get automated, where will the jobs go? especially in the low skilled industries.

prior to that, jobs in factories and skilled labor were overtaken by improved technology. technology is not the same thing as AI. there's a difference in creating a car are much more cost-effective rates vs. firing all of your mcdonalds employees.

Hmm, to professional youtube/facebook like giver, professional forum poster, etc..  Grin
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June 11, 2014, 01:57:47 AM
#65
21st century.. AI, robots.. and how it affects the human economy. more and more, we're going to see our jobs taken over by robots. that's going to lead to a decrease in jobs, which means a wider gap between the people who own and operate the robots and the people who don't. inequality is inevitable.

Oh.. again. The introduction of robots hasn't resulted in unemployment. Rather, it has resulted in commodities getting cheaper. For example, a car which cost some $20,000 to build earlier, was made available for $2,000. Innovation and new technology does more good than harm to the humans (off course with some exceptions like Nuclear weapons).

Technology and automation has resulted in less jobs and lower paying jobs for the masses (it has created a few higher paying jobs for the people who design the automation tools).

Technology does allow everyone to live a better standard of living.

Even Nuclear weapons can be a good thing. They have probably prevented wars from breaking out between countries that have nuclear weapons. The cold war is a good example of this. The US and the former USSR were in an arms race for years and used spies against each-other but never actually attacked each-other with military forces.
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June 11, 2014, 12:36:52 AM
#64
21st century.. AI, robots.. and how it affects the human economy. more and more, we're going to see our jobs taken over by robots. that's going to lead to a decrease in jobs, which means a wider gap between the people who own and operate the robots and the people who don't. inequality is inevitable.

Oh.. again. The introduction of robots hasn't resulted in unemployment. Rather, it has resulted in commodities getting cheaper. For example, a car which cost some $20,000 to build earlier, was made available for $2,000. Innovation and new technology does more good than harm to the humans (off course with some exceptions like Nuclear weapons).

not to sound like a luddite, but it seems like we're starting to see a shift in the service industry, which is america's biggest labor pool. once things like that get automated, where will the jobs go? especially in the low skilled industries.

prior to that, jobs in factories and skilled labor were overtaken by improved technology. technology is not the same thing as AI. there's a difference in creating a car are much more cost-effective rates vs. firing all of your mcdonalds employees.
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June 11, 2014, 12:20:58 AM
#63
21st century.. AI, robots.. and how it affects the human economy. more and more, we're going to see our jobs taken over by robots. that's going to lead to a decrease in jobs, which means a wider gap between the people who own and operate the robots and the people who don't. inequality is inevitable.

Oh.. again. The introduction of robots hasn't resulted in unemployment. Rather, it has resulted in commodities getting cheaper. For example, a car which cost some $20,000 to build earlier, was made available for $2,000. Innovation and new technology does more good than harm to the humans (off course with some exceptions like Nuclear weapons).
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June 11, 2014, 12:11:40 AM
#62
What do you think were the most significant events of the 19th, 20th or 21st century? Wars, Revolutions, Political Ideology, Technological innovations? What events do you think truly changed the world?

The advent of social media will probably be the single "event" that will change the world over the next 100 years. Probably not for the better as it can give a small number of people an outsized vote on issues (like paying to have a one sided video/post go viral).
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June 10, 2014, 10:45:43 PM
#61
21st century.. AI, robots.. and how it affects the human economy. more and more, we're going to see our jobs taken over by robots. that's going to lead to a decrease in jobs, which means a wider gap between the people who own and operate the robots and the people who don't. inequality is inevitable.

It's only inevitable if we continue to rely on the current system; which itself is not the only option.

I'd personally recommend something more radical, but simple solutions to mitigate the increase in inequality might be possible for now, though they are only short term solutions at best: reduce working hours to account for the lack of jobs; pace automation in a way that allows humans to gradually adapt; test and implement universal income (like mincome); etc.
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June 09, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
#60
21st century.. AI, robots.. and how it affects the human economy. more and more, we're going to see our jobs taken over by robots. that's going to lead to a decrease in jobs, which means a wider gap between the people who own and operate the robots and the people who don't. inequality is inevitable.
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June 09, 2014, 06:18:46 PM
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What do you think were the most significant events of the 19th, 20th or 21st century? Wars, Revolutions, Political Ideology, Technological innovations? What events do you think truly changed the world?

In terms of technology:

19th century
The battery.
Electric dynamo.
AC motor and transformer.

20th century
Transistor
The integrated circuit & the microchip.
The flip-flop circuit invented.
First computer controlled by software.


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June 09, 2014, 05:39:05 PM
#58
What do you think were the most significant events of the 19th, 20th or 21st century? Wars, Revolutions, Political Ideology, Technological innovations? What events do you think truly changed the world?

19th Telephone
20th Internet
21st To Be Decided but I'll say a future development in Nanotechnology or Artificial Intelligence
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June 09, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
#57
I know the russians tested bombs near a village, and the radiation wreaked havoc.. but it's not the same thing.

Russians tested the nuclear weapons in remote sparsely inhabited areas, such as Novaya Zemlya in the Arctic and Kamchatka.



He is talking about the 400 experiments in northern Kazakhstan where they build and a new city just for that of course with work power from the traditional soviets labor camps.

The site was cleaned and the waste removed not long ago in 2010 2012 after being abandoned for 20 years.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08/30/btsc.chance.nukes/index.html

You won't get this kind of information from RT.

yeah, vice recently did a piece on how it has affected the khazakstanis.. it was the chernobyl before chernobyl.

another event that changed the course of human history: agriculture. up until that point, we were nomadic, moving from place to place as the natural resources permitted. it allowed the settling of cities.
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in defi we trust
June 09, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
#56
I know the russians tested bombs near a village, and the radiation wreaked havoc.. but it's not the same thing.

Russians tested the nuclear weapons in remote sparsely inhabited areas, such as Novaya Zemlya in the Arctic and Kamchatka.



He is talking about the 400 experiments in northern Kazakhstan where they build and a new city just for that of course with work power from the traditional soviets labor camps.

The site was cleaned and the waste removed not long ago in 2010 2012 after being abandoned for 20 years.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08/30/btsc.chance.nukes/index.html

You won't get this kind of information from RT.
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June 09, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
#55
2008 - Bitcoin Cheesy
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June 09, 2014, 08:40:21 AM
#54
1929: The day the Stock Market Crashed
It was devastating economic event that shattered millions of life and created tidal wave of effects around the world. Remember October 29, 1929.
legendary
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June 09, 2014, 08:23:07 AM
#53
I know the russians tested bombs near a village, and the radiation wreaked havoc.. but it's not the same thing.

Russians tested the nuclear weapons in remote sparsely inhabited areas, such as Novaya Zemlya in the Arctic and Kamchatka.

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June 09, 2014, 08:22:20 AM
#52
What you all will say about “The Great Tsunami”?. Of all tsunamis, the worst that the world ever faced was the Indian Ocean tsunami of 26th December, 2004. It had originated near Indonesia, and had submerged quite a few islands from Indonesia, Sri Lanka and the Andaman & Nicobar Islands. Indira Point no longer exists as the southernmost tip of India.
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June 09, 2014, 07:03:07 AM
#51
The Stock Market Crash of 2008

Rock Bottom

In September of 2008, the American economy was sent reeling. The New York Stock Exchange plummeted on numerous occasions. The stock market fell 345 points in one day on September 5th. By the end of the month, the stock market had lost 20% of its entire value.
The financial and economic crash of 2008, the worst in over 75 years, and was a major geopolitical setback for the United States and Europe. This damage has put the American model of free-market capitalism under a cloud .
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June 06, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
#50
i'd also add hiroshima.. up until to around that point in time, the world didn't have the technology to annihilate mankind.

Nope. It was the Nazis who first developed the nuclear weapons. But they never got the chance to use them. Even the USA developed the nuclear weapons based on the Nazi technology.

"up until around that point in time," not to mention that it was the first time that a bomb was dropped on an entire population of people.. which sent ripples across the world. up until that point, there was only a threat of it happening. i know the russians tested bombs near a village, and the radiation wreaked havoc.. but it's not the same thing.
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