Question is what will happen to all the people who applied for campaign... maybe yobit2 scenario?
My suggestion would be to ignore the lemmings. Unlike yobit's investbox bullshit that broke the proverbial camel's back, this is not an obvious ponzi.
Topic: Eventually, 1xbit has launched its new Signature campaign. (Update: 26-05-2021) - page 2. (Read 1147 times)
August 10, 2020, 07:39:14 PM
My suggestion would be to ignore the lemmings. Unlike yobit's investbox bullshit that broke the proverbial camel's back, this is not an obvious ponzi.
August 10, 2020, 06:49:23 PM
They opened topic to offer 'fake helping people' who accused them for scam before, just so they could start their new bounty campaign.
Super fast way to get many negative feedbacks on their profile.
Question is what will happen to all the people who applied for campaign... maybe yobit2 scenario?
I am waiting to see how this story will end
Super fast way to get many negative feedbacks on their profile.
Question is what will happen to all the people who applied for campaign... maybe yobit2 scenario?
I am waiting to see how this story will end
August 10, 2020, 05:39:27 PM
And after all, did they solved at least one scam accusation?
No. They opened a thread offering to resolve issues, waited for a couple of days, got a couple of complaints, and rejected them. It seems to have been a show with no real intent to fix anything.
August 10, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
There is several warnings about 1xbit in campaign thread given, so this why probably some users withdraw their applications. Seems that many people applying immediately after seing open campaign without making even minimal research about website that they are going to promote.
1xbit don't have escrow for their campaign, but I doubt that they are going to scam participants - it probably would be too much even for 1xbit. What is more concerning that they didn't hired campaign manager and they are going to manage campaign themselves.
And after all, did they solved at least one scam accusation? Because I haven't seen anything.
1xbit don't have escrow for their campaign, but I doubt that they are going to scam participants - it probably would be too much even for 1xbit. What is more concerning that they didn't hired campaign manager and they are going to manage campaign themselves.
And after all, did they solved at least one scam accusation? Because I haven't seen anything.
August 10, 2020, 04:50:28 PM
I noticed that there were a lot of members withdrawing their applications in the campaign thread. Did I miss a thread in which someone threatened to tag campaign participants? There could be no other reason for a bunch of people deciding not to participate, and I've never seen the first few pages of a campaign ANN thread look like 1xbit's does.
I think this thread is in question, he caused a mass withdrawal.
they automatically write the application post, now withdraw their application instructed by previous experience with Yobit campaign and tagging users from there. plus it's not some serious money offered there, not worth the risk to ruin account because of 1xbit.
August 10, 2020, 04:39:56 PM
I noticed that there were a lot of members withdrawing their applications in the campaign thread. Did I miss a thread in which someone threatened to tag campaign participants? There could be no other reason for a bunch of people deciding not to participate, and I've never seen the first few pages of a campaign ANN thread look like 1xbit's does.
Edit:
Ah, I guess this is a bunch of old issues coming to the fore because of this thread. I understand now, though I barely remember their name.
That being said, 1xbit is doing nothing to clear their name from the initial scam accusation, so I'm sure the tags will remain till that happens.
Man, I don't even remember what the deal is with 1xbit; I'll have to look at their feedback after posting this. Anyway, not addressing multiple scam accusations is the tactic Yobit has taken for years, and it's not the right way to handle things if you're the business being accused of scamming. Edit:
Ah, I guess this is a bunch of old issues coming to the fore because of this thread. I understand now, though I barely remember their name.
August 10, 2020, 04:29:21 PM
Actually, flag is invalid:
Anyone supporting this flag please think this through. I think type 2 or 3 flags should be created by actual victims and if evidence is there - you can support those, making type 1 redundant. Failing to do that, to base a type 1 flag on circumstantial evidence you need to be able to show how an average person is at high-risk of losing money with 1xBit.
August 10, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
Did you even fall the whole accusation against bestchange how it was concluded? When did bestchange ever scam anyone? Can you point it out? Stop this crap of comparing the bestchange situation to serial scammers like 1xbitLol, they did ignore what i wrote in the other thread of theirs. Stupid Move. Good luck getting rid of the new negative ratings on your profile 1xbit_official. You just made things worse.
I don't want to be the prophet of doom but the attempt to clean their negative ratings using a signature campaign could be a total fail. Just remember what happened to the likes of Yobit, Livecoin, p2pb2b2... 
August 10, 2020, 03:03:32 PM
I also tagged them and will only remove my tag, if they resolve all ongoing scam accusations.
When they said they are here to resolve all issues, I don't think they really mean that.I guess a lot of them don't even know anything about 1xbit and scam accusations against them. OK, now they have gone red and things are different.
Yep, not everyone here is familiar with shady gambling sites so when such users see signature campaign they just join it. It is good to see that users are withdrawing their applications. (Archived for record http://archive.is/8hPpF)OP, why have you refereced the thread by 1xbit in the flag? Once that is deleted, it will be an invalid flag.
Actually, flag is invalid:Quote
You must link to a topic documenting your specific concerns. Someone visiting your topic should get a clear idea of what this flag is about. The topic must not be self-moderated.
August 10, 2020, 02:10:07 PM
And how could a player cheat?
The definition of cheating here depends essencially on the casino's T&C.
Users are usualy accused of cheating when:
- multiaccounting
- arbitraging
- using VPN/proxy to connect from a banned country
- abusing bonuses
- exploiting vulnerabilities on the website or taking advantage of bugs on the game itself
- double spending a deposit transaction on casinos accepting zero-confirmation transactions
...
There are different ways for users to cheat but the problem and what happens usually is that casinos use the above excuses to ban whover they want without having to provide any evidence.
August 10, 2020, 01:21:53 PM
I added some more food supplies to: @ 1xbit_official, to warn, "the food they serve is very poisonous" there are many fraud cases that have not been resolved by their team and site.
People can only add such food supplies to other people who don't have a position here, who don't have people to BACK them. On the other hand, there are other poisonous food which everyone knows poisonous but react as delicious because a group of people are saying delicious. Thanks to the group for saying so. Otherwise, some people wouldn't have their meal as they couldn't eat poisonous food.I supported the flag because 1xbit/bet deserve that.
Edit- OP, why have you refereced the thread by 1xbit in the flag? Once that is deleted, it will be an invalid flag.
August 10, 2020, 01:15:48 PM
They just moved their resolution thread back to the reputation board from archival and edited the title and content of the thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54938685
Let's see: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5266815.htmlBut keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
Why would you do that? And how could a player cheat? Usually, that shouldn't be possible. August 10, 2020, 12:43:10 PM
but seems lots of users applying them even they are aware of 1xbit shady behavior.
20 bucks is 20 bucks I guess a lot of them don't even know anything about 1xbit and scam accusations against them. OK, now they have gone red and things are different.
There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
No user would rescind his feedback because a website launched a signature campaign, in the case of best change, they were able to clear their websites name and even at that, the red tags still remained, but then their signature campaign went on for months and the users in the campaign were paid smoothly as well the fact that there was no fresh issue against their website, so it's fair to say the website can be trusted and thus almost every user who had initially left a negative, revised it to a positive or neutral. That being said, 1xbit is doing nothing to clear their name from the initial scam accusation, so I'm sure the tags will remain till that happens.do not compare these two situations. BestChange successfully solved all (one) accusations against them. even those that are not directly their fault.
Feedbacks like "Multiple active scam accusations against this site (1xBit)" they look much more serious, and it takes more effort than signature campaign if they want to improve his rating.
August 10, 2020, 12:29:38 PM
There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
No user would rescind his feedback because a website launched a signature campaign, in the case of best_change, they were able to clear their websites name and even at that, the red tags still remained, but then their signature campaign went on for months and the users in the campaign were paid smoothly as well the fact that there was no fresh issue against their website, so it's fair to say the website can be trusted and thus almost every user who had initially left a negative, revised it to a positive or neutral. That being said, 1xbit is doing nothing to clear their name from the initial scam accusation, so I'm sure the tags will remain till that happens.
August 10, 2020, 12:04:15 PM
Even after I and several other people posted warnings in their bounty campaign thread, there are still people applying.
It looks like some people really don't care what they're promoting if they make at least a few bucks - what a shame.
I also tagged them and will only remove my tag, if they resolve all ongoing scam accusations.
It looks like some people really don't care what they're promoting if they make at least a few bucks - what a shame.
Edit: Tagged from my end and it will remain same until they solve all the accusations.
I also tagged them and will only remove my tag, if they resolve all ongoing scam accusations.
August 10, 2020, 11:55:38 AM
There are people like JollyGood who would change their negative into neutral just when a campaign is launched .. just like Jolly changed his feedback for bestchange so maybe a good idea to run a campaign, pay some coins to dogs and get the negative feedback removed. Well done.
August 10, 2020, 11:27:08 AM
but seems lots of users applying them even they are aware of 1xbit shady behavior.
20 bucks is 20 bucks In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
Can you say exact reason for:they now basically saying that I was multi accounting and arbitraging with them which is a complete joke
Explain how this person cheated your site and your reasoning behind stealing their funds. August 10, 2020, 11:04:39 AM
Thread is back to reputation, we were planning to post directly to scam accusation thread, but some users find it negative that's why we moved the thread back in reputation board.
if your account was banned by a mistake, we will solve it.
In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
But keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
if your account was banned by a mistake, we will solve it.
In other cases, all I can is to tell the exact reason for banning.
But keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
You haven't solved anything and your reasons don't make sense. In a he said / she said scenario I would trust SyGambler far more than I would trust you unless proven otherwise.
Removing the thread like that without explanation looked like an attempt to bury complaints expressed in the thread. It took red trust to bring it back therefore red trust will stay so that you don't get tempted to pull something like this again.
August 10, 2020, 10:56:29 AM
I know blaming them wouldn't change anything. As you mentioned in the recent case, probably they are friendly to resolve accusations against them. But 1xbit is different from them since even they deleted their resolution thread. They are thinking simply to run a campaign would clean their old bad records. But most probably it will fail when gamblers will encounter again their ToS drama.
Without resolving accusations they are just trying to run their signature. Isn’t it enough for you to detect that they are quite aggressive in this field ? I am completely agree with "Royse777" and we should stop talking about them. It was their responsibility to resolve all the issues before running the campaign but sorry to say that our expectations was too much high. Anyway, Let them follow their way and follow your own.
Edit: Tagged from my end and it will remain same until they solve all the accusations.
August 10, 2020, 10:40:19 AM
I added some more food supplies to: @ 1xbit_official, to warn, "the food they serve is very poisonous" there are many fraud cases that have not been resolved by their team and site.
@Coolcryptovator, create a flag.
Everyone can talk, but until now you have not shown the results, that you finish it.
@Coolcryptovator, create a flag.
But keep in mind, even if the player has cheated - he will get deposited funds back.
We need proof, 1xbit site victim funds, if you return it to the victim.Everyone can talk, but until now you have not shown the results, that you finish it.
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