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Topic: everyone is saying that Mark Karpeles is bad (Read 2493 times)

hero member
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Your *what* is itchy?
Starbucks is about to be his best friend, when he cashes in the btc he stole and becomes #1 customer.

that'll get him what...2 venti mocha's and a scone?
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Does anyone have an address for him? He holds quiet a lot of my money and I wish to contact him about it in person. He started gox through fraud and I doubt he had much money of his own at the time, any personal wealth he has now was gained through gox imo.
I wonder on his personal holdings, web sites and net cafes etc, what does that add up to?

For those who wish the matter to just go away, they remind me of the type who tells a victim of rape to go clean themselves up as it is unpleasant to look at them. We are not bots but very real people.
legendary
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but he found like 900,000 BTC in the past month (i read the articles).  so doesn't that make him a "good" guy, the likes of Dorian?

if your name indicates you write for a magazine as your day job. then please find a new career.

he didnt FIND coins.. he remembered/admitted where he hid them. but only after american lawyers demanded that he goes to america to be deposed..
newbie
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His failure put bad image on every bitcoin user. Because of him cryptocurrencies will take long time to recover.
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I don't know if he's bad or good, but he's disorganized and irresponsible. He's making all of us Bitcoin people look bad. People ask me, "is bitcoin not safe?" And I have to explain to them that Bitcoin is safe, it's the Bitcoin exchanges that can be unreliable. It's like if a bank gets robbed, you don't blame the U.S. dollar; so when a Bitcoin bank gets robbed, you mustn't blame Bitcoin.
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When you find something in your wallet not belonging to you is it stealing or finding....
legendary
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lol. "found." right...

Just like he found the 200,000 BTCs in a forgotten wallet two weeks ago. How shameless can this guy get?
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but he found like 900,000 BTC in the past month (i read the articles).  so doesn't that make him a "good" guy, the likes of Dorian?

lol. "found." right...
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Circa 2010
Now I didn't get Gox'd mind you, but I kind of don't want the US go.v (or any other govs) getting involved with taking him to face justice. That is against what Bitcoin is all about. How can we claim to be decentralized and controlled by no government, but want them to step in and get involved when a problem happens? I've heard BTC referred to as the Wild West right now because it's unregulated, and I actually kinda like that metaphor. It's true though, there ARE definitely scammers and gangsters out there. It's up to us to stick together, spread good, trusted word-of-mouth about companies amongst each other, and build a stronger community where only the trustworthy (secure) businesses survive.

Just because we want it to be decentralised and not actually controlled by a government doesn't mean we condone or should condone theft from others. I'm personally fine with him facing court considering he either tried to seal the coins or was just grossly negligent and incompetent - to the point he should never ever run an exchange again (not that I think he will).
sr. member
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Clarification please

How, exactly, does the FBI have a shred of jurisdiction over a French guy with a company based in Japan?

What'd I miss here?
Mtgox is registered in usa too.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
Now I didn't get Gox'd mind you, but I kind of don't want the US go.v (or any other govs) getting involved with taking him to face justice. That is against what Bitcoin is all about. How can we claim to be decentralized and controlled by no government, but want them to step in and get involved when a problem happens? I've heard BTC referred to as the Wild West right now because it's unregulated, and I actually kinda like that metaphor. It's true though, there ARE definitely scammers and gangsters out there. It's up to us to stick together, spread good, trusted word-of-mouth about companies amongst each other, and build a stronger community where only the trustworthy (secure) businesses survive.

Too late now, the Gov's are involved.
The Wild West is/was "fun", but you don't steal over $500,000,000 without facing serious legal issues.
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Now I didn't get Gox'd mind you, but I kind of don't want the US go.v (or any other govs) getting involved with taking him to face justice. That is against what Bitcoin is all about. How can we claim to be decentralized and controlled by no government, but want them to step in and get involved when a problem happens? I've heard BTC referred to as the Wild West right now because it's unregulated, and I actually kinda like that metaphor. It's true though, there ARE definitely scammers and gangsters out there. It's up to us to stick together, spread good, trusted word-of-mouth about companies amongst each other, and build a stronger community where only the trustworthy (secure) businesses survive.
legendary
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You don't just 'lose' 100,000BTC - 900,000BTC, if I ever was responsible for that much money it would most likely be at the corner of my mind constantly and I'd have to check it, hell I don't even have a lot of gemstones and silver yet but I'm constantly worrying about losing them, but then again, I seem to have more of a conscience than he does.

I don't like to pass judgement very often before all the evidence is out but it honestly looks to me like he was planning a getaway with all that cash and somebody ratted him out then the authorities caught up to him, so now he's going to invent any excuse he can to make himself look innocent. My alarms went off when he started blaming the Bitcoin code because if there was a problem that big then people would have been all over it because it's open source and all the altcoin devs would be running around like headless chickens.

We'll have to wait and see though whether or not he can produce any evidence to back up his claims or he's just going to keep making more excuses.
legendary
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I am sure that soon he'll find the coins. The US authorities have taken all the necessary steps to bring him to face the justice. The only way for him to avoid a lengthy prison sentence now is to return those coins back to their rightful owners.

I'm looking forward to seeing his excuse the day he says he found all the coins.
legendary
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I am sure that soon he'll find the coins. The US authorities have taken all the necessary steps to bring him to face the justice. The only way for him to avoid a lengthy prison sentence now is to return those coins back to their rightful owners.
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GOOD Dev
Eitherway, he's still not giving any coin found back and has no reason to.  He just has to watchi his back in public for now on.
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a "thief" is someone who carries a gun and threatens people.  Mark isn't like that.  I know him personally.  He is a good guy  Grin Grin
OK, be so kind as to tell him, to release their coins to MtGox users.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
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Well, yes, he's bad.
Losing or stealing half a billion dollars worth of customer assets makes you a bad guy.

A strange world in which we live in. Steal $100, and you go to jail. Steal hundreds of millions of $$$, and you are still free!

That's because the godvernment has them.
legendary
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but he found like 900,000 BTC in the past month (i read the articles).  so doesn't that make him a "good" guy, the likes of Dorian?

Where in the world did you come up with 900,000 number?Huh  All articles say mtgox "found" a wallet with 200,000 BTC.  That's not even a quarter of what Mark Karpeles and his associates lost/stole from people that trusted (WHY???) them. And he tanked bitcoin in the process.

Look at the guy, does he look trustworthy to you? If you say "yes" then good luck with all the money you still have.


that was the first article, the second article was the 700,000 BTC.  and he DOES look trustworthy.  i'd trust anyone who drinks Starbucks(R) every day.  at least he's not buying guns

Link please.
You can prove this?
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