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Quote from: HateNATO on December 10, 2016, 03:56:57 PM

not me xd i always win because i have pros stategies and i will always be gamble winner xd i use only freerolls in poker sites and faucets and that is it and i make really good amounts of money Cheesy

Your answer is more conflicting. If you said that you got a pros strategy and always win money in gambling. And later you said you only use free money and faucet amount. If you really got a working method and already made lot money why can't you use already won money to make some more profit instead wasting time in collecting free money? In gambling nothing like pro-strategy.

I think there are no strategies will work like this in gambling. But for you, it's working means why can't you play with real money. You can able to make a big profit. For me, i made back to back win in sports betting but in slot games very rarely I won, and I lost that money in next games. So the long run win will not work for everyone.

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Quote from: HateNATO on December 10, 2016, 03:56:57 PM

not me xd i always win because i have pros stategies and i will always be gamble winner xd i use only freerolls in poker sites and faucets and that is it and i make really good amounts of money Cheesy

Your answer is more conflicting. If you said that you got a pros strategy and always win money in gambling. And later you said you only use free money and faucet amount. If you really got a working method and already made lot money why can't you use already won money to make some more profit instead wasting time in collecting free money? In gambling nothing like pro-strategy.

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not me xd i always win because i have pros stategies and i will always be gamble winner xd i use only freerolls in poker sites and faucets and that is it and i make really good amounts of money Cheesy

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Quote from: dukeneptun on December 03, 2016, 07:44:45 PM

I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(

Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

Right if we can only recover what we lose after a day then probably everyone will really do gambling. It is risky and we cant really never tell when we will win or lose. Thats why we need to do some plans on how to budget or setting limits in gambling. And most of all enjoy it and dont risk all .

That's impossible for just a single day unless you will have a winning streak when you are recovering your losses. But still you are fighting for your fortune and luck when you are recovering your losses. And most of the time, we are still losing when we are hoping to recover our losses. That is why everyone is just losing in the end.

This simple calculation is complex to most but actually someone should understand that whenever you make a bet that is not at all influenced by your previous bets. Some people think that they have lost a lot and not its recovery time but actually each bet you make has its own risks and since there is a house edge you will only loose more and more.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on December 10, 2016, 10:18:34 AM

The best way to not lose is to not play. If you play, you will lose. It may seem like a dumb thing to say, and too simple and basic, but it's the truth. You can mentally masturbate all day about it, but the only way to not lose, is to not play. But remember, if you do not play, you do not win. That is the root cause of taking risks. No risks, no gain, no fun, nothing.

sorry but it is not the accurate answer, there are so many many people who cannot stop playing gambling in any case, therefore they need to adope such kind of strategy thorough which they can minimize their risk of loosing money, therefore i do care while playing gambling,

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The best way to not lose is to not play. If you play, you will lose. It may seem like a dumb thing to say, and too simple and basic, but it's the truth. You can mentally masturbate all day about it, but the only way to not lose, is to not play. But remember, if you do not play, you do not win. That is the root cause of taking risks. No risks, no gain, no fun, nothing.

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Its true, actually. Sports betting I guess is more profitable for one who is betting. However, gambling was actually designed so that people lose and the owner if the site/casino can get a revenue. However, there are ways to minimise your losses. Using an actual strategy like martingale might help you on sites with low house edge, but you also need to know when to stop, or losses are guaranteed.

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Quote from: Positid on December 10, 2016, 01:19:36 AM

Quote from: Yuuto on December 09, 2016, 05:25:28 PM

I don't think that a lot of people recognises that the casino is almost impossible to beat, unless you have a extremely large bankroll and you are playing against a house which has, say only 40 BTC bankroll. Then, your odds of winning is probably a bit more than if you only had 0.0001 BTC.

The more you play, the more the -EV you are playing will affect you.

It's not about the bankroll you have but about the chances you have. You can play with a big bankroll but with the edge that gambling house have you are still subject to lose in the long run. It's not easy to understand as we know that is the reality.

Yeah its not about how much is your bankroll. But sometimes those who have big bankroll are the one who win big. Maybe because they do big bets and only play in a short period of time.

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Quote from: dukeneptun on December 03, 2016, 07:44:45 PM

I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(

Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

Right if we can only recover what we lose after a day then probably everyone will really do gambling. It is risky and we cant really never tell when we will win or lose. Thats why we need to do some plans on how to budget or setting limits in gambling. And most of all enjoy it and dont risk all .

That's impossible for just a single day unless you will have a winning streak when you are recovering your losses. But still you are fighting for your fortune and luck when you are recovering your losses. And most of the time, we are still losing when we are hoping to recover our losses. That is why everyone is just losing in the end.

that is when greediness prevailed you are right that hoping to recover losses will only result to more losses and it is very impossible to get back what you have loss the day after that instances but instead you are more likely to lose a certain amount again for the second time .

Chasing the losses and trying to compensate by winning in events is really hard task and happens rarely to lucky users. Better is to forget the loss and just focus to win the events. Chasing the losses gets you trapped into big loss, because you place big amounts to gain the entire loss in a single event.

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Quote from: dukeneptun on December 03, 2016, 07:44:45 PM

I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(

Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

Right if we can only recover what we lose after a day then probably everyone will really do gambling. It is risky and we cant really never tell when we will win or lose. Thats why we need to do some plans on how to budget or setting limits in gambling. And most of all enjoy it and dont risk all .

That's impossible for just a single day unless you will have a winning streak when you are recovering your losses. But still you are fighting for your fortune and luck when you are recovering your losses. And most of the time, we are still losing when we are hoping to recover our losses. That is why everyone is just losing in the end.

that is when greediness prevailed you are right that hoping to recover losses will only result to more losses and it is very impossible to get back what you have loss the day after that instances but instead you are more likely to lose a certain amount again for the second time .

Chasing losses is really a very very bad idea because it will push you to bet even more because of the aims you had and this thing will normally lead you to lose even more same as you stated which is correct. Recovering losses is impossible in my own opinion even though there are times that you could able to recover but you will eventually lose up again. That's why its important not to chase and just let that lose called it enough for today.

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Quote from: dukeneptun on December 03, 2016, 07:44:45 PM

I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(

Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

Right if we can only recover what we lose after a day then probably everyone will really do gambling. It is risky and we cant really never tell when we will win or lose. Thats why we need to do some plans on how to budget or setting limits in gambling. And most of all enjoy it and dont risk all .

That's impossible for just a single day unless you will have a winning streak when you are recovering your losses. But still you are fighting for your fortune and luck when you are recovering your losses. And most of the time, we are still losing when we are hoping to recover our losses. That is why everyone is just losing in the end.

that is when greediness prevailed you are right that hoping to recover losses will only result to more losses and it is very impossible to get back what you have loss the day after that instances but instead you are more likely to lose a certain amount again for the second time .

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Quote from: Yuuto on December 09, 2016, 05:25:28 PM

I don't think that a lot of people recognises that the casino is almost impossible to beat, unless you have a extremely large bankroll and you are playing against a house which has, say only 40 BTC bankroll. Then, your odds of winning is probably a bit more than if you only had 0.0001 BTC.

The more you play, the more the -EV you are playing will affect you.

It's not about the bankroll you have but about the chances you have. You can play with a big bankroll but with the edge that gambling house have you are still subject to lose in the long run. It's not easy to understand as we know that is the reality.

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I don't think that a lot of people recognises that the casino is almost impossible to beat, unless you have a extremely large bankroll and you are playing against a house which has, say only 40 BTC bankroll. Then, your odds of winning is probably a bit more than if you only had 0.0001 BTC.

The more you play, the more the -EV you are playing will affect you.

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Quote from: prtty2gal2 on December 09, 2016, 04:46:33 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 29, 2016, 02:18:01 AM

Even you will control your emotion gambling is just made for the gamblers to lose in the end. Because this is where the gambling sites are getting their profit for rolling the amount that the gamblers lose is being used for making the gamblers attracted for the bigger bankrolls of the house edge. But still no one will be able to beat the house, trust me.

If a person have full control over themselves in gambling he can make money even in long run, but I think those people who have no control other themselves they can really lose everything in gambling even in one day of gambling, in my opinion one should be careful while playing gambling still we need to agree everyone looses in long run, it is a hard fact to digest.

There are only a few gambling games that you can be profitable in the long run. That will be Sports Betting and cards game like Poker and Blackjack. Why? Because this games are dominated by skills and strategy that affect the result of the bet. With sports betting having knowledge over the competing team can make your prediction more precise, while experience and clever strategy in cards game can also affect the outcome of the game.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 29, 2016, 02:18:01 AM

Even you will control your emotion gambling is just made for the gamblers to lose in the end. Because this is where the gambling sites are getting their profit for rolling the amount that the gamblers lose is being used for making the gamblers attracted for the bigger bankrolls of the house edge. But still no one will be able to beat the house, trust me.

If a person have full control over themselves in gambling he can make money even in long run, but I think those people who have no control other themselves they can really lose everything in gambling even in one day of gambling, in my opinion one should be careful while playing gambling still we need to agree everyone looses in long run, it is a hard fact to digest.

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Quote from: lite on December 04, 2016, 03:10:59 PM

Quote from: dukeneptun on December 03, 2016, 07:44:45 PM

I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(

Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

It is quite challenging to recover any losses from gambling. It is better to use that money and earn profits slowly instead of trying again gambling. Gambling can be good only for fun but chasing for profit will be quite a dangerous thing to do.

8 BTC winning in gambling is a quite a big money. But don't know can repeat same again.

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Quote from: dhampir-D on December 04, 2016, 07:34:18 PM

I have seen cases of successful people, but so far I have not witnessed cases of people who have had many victories, with no defeat.

Whether in games or in the market, statistics do not lie, there are always ups and downs. The important thing is to identify the best opportunities, to have more wins than losses at the end of the day.

Because that's not possible in gambling, we might see someone winning in the long run which is very rare but winning all the time is like cheating at all. Though you cheat, it will not last long since gambling sites are way smarter than us, they are operating without emotion but uses math to give games that has their advantage. Let us not complicate things much, gambling should be for fun to us while for them it's for the profit.

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I have seen cases of successful people, but so far I have not witnessed cases of people who have had many victories, with no defeat.

Whether in games or in the market, statistics do not lie, there are always ups and downs. The important thing is to identify the best opportunities, to have more wins than losses at the end of the day.

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Quote from: lite on December 04, 2016, 03:10:59 PM

Quote from: dukeneptun on December 03, 2016, 07:44:45 PM

I won about 8 btc today, but im still a big loser in the long run. ;(

Most of us are losers in the long run, but hey at least you recovered something. 8 btc is a lot of money(to me), i would too love to recover some of my losses.

Right if we can only recover what we lose after a day then probably everyone will really do gambling. It is risky and we cant really never tell when we will win or lose. Thats why we need to do some plans on how to budget or setting limits in gambling. And most of all enjoy it and dont risk all .

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Quote from: tabas on December 04, 2016, 07:18:42 PM

Quote from: angaper on December 04, 2016, 02:36:27 PM

Casinos and gambling sites never lose, so someone is paying their bills, and it is undoubted that their clients are doing it. Of course it is clear that there are exceptional cases of fortunate gamblers that have been able to gain millions, but perhaps 95% of gamblers do end up losing money.

That's the reality about gambling sites we are the ones that are becoming the source of their profit and for paying their bills. That's why the advantage is always to them, they will allow us to win for big amount occasionally but they will still recover that eventually for they always letting their gamblers to lose in the end.

Are you sure ..? /> as I see from all the gambling sites are only a small part that actually benefit in the gambling. I mean it is just those who know gambling well a benefit and that amount is very little. There is indeed a lot of people who benefit in the gambling. but the advantage is only temporary because once the benefit they are getting greedy and brutal in doing gambling so that they get next is a whopping

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