Everyone looses in the long run - page 51.

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Quote from: choppork on September 25, 2016, 02:29:28 AM

Only those who have control of their minds are the ones that doesn't lose in the long run. There would always be a time when you are in positive profit and a time when you're in a negative profit. A well-disciplined mind would stop gambling once he touches positive profit. At that point, he has profit and he has already recovered all of his previous losses.

On the other hand, a normal gambler would just continue gambling and would try to really hit the jackpot like a boss. That's the reason why most people loses in the long run.

Yeah,

well said,
every gambler should know their limit, especially when they already started winning in the game,
playing wisely is the key secret to maximize the amount the you can win in the game
and also prevent losing at the same time consecutively.

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Quote from: electronicfactura on September 22, 2016, 10:58:10 AM

I say yes to this title that doesn't matter where are you playing with money in the end you will face same destiny. Gambling which many people start for fun and later then reach to point that they are expert and most of them prediction goes well in sports betting. This puts them to take gambling serious and bigger bets is main cause of loosing in the long run.

it is also the start of wrecking their life because of trying to bounce back their loses i guess what ever sports or gambling it is you can never defeat the house you can win but for sure you will keep coming back and lose.

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Only those who have control of their minds are the ones that doesn't lose in the long run. There would always be a time when you are in positive profit and a time when you're in a negative profit. A well-disciplined mind would stop gambling once he touches positive profit. At that point, he has profit and he has already recovered all of his previous losses.

On the other hand, a normal gambler would just continue gambling and would try to really hit the jackpot like a boss. That's the reason why most people loses in the long run.

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Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.

completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.

things make everyone lost in the long run are when they have not a large bankroll enough and a bankroll management that can adjust between your losing and winning. they gamble blindly and in the end you just got losing more and more.

I think that most gambling methods works that way and even if you had a large amount of bankroll you can not predict the thing to bet on and the rink involve in playing gambling will always be there and for the down fall every gambler will only rely on luck alone! but at least there are certain gamblers that can pretty much handle it than becoming addicted over gambling.

bankroll management hold a key role on gambler's statistics to make a profit or not , i believe on that . as long as people stick to the rules and doing a good bankroll management i guess everyone wouldn't lost in the long run' , just mostly. you could gain a profit steady everyday .

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Quote from: isildur1 on September 24, 2016, 09:49:21 PM

This is true but i know a small amount of people who do well as pro gamblers..

A small amount of people make excellent statisticians and natural mathematicians, some people are gifted with the ability to walk a tight rope and juggle throwing knives and other high risk activities. Its such a small amount of people, requiring much skill, discipline and training over many years from an early age even that most of us wont qualify for such things. The smart thing to realise is when dealing with risky tasks is you are extremely lucky to win and be glad at that much, keeping track of all the odds in your head and making it so you come out on top money wise is harder then it appears

The OP is wrong, not everyone loses in the long run but its easily arguably a majority of players

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It is almost impossible to win in the long run with gambling because the chance of you losing is bigger so it is only obvious.
Only with games like poker you can win in the long run because of the skill that is also required.

Well I agree with you if you are aiming to win in the long run with gambling then that is not going to happen at all.

Instead what is going to happen is that you are going to lose in the long run.

He is indeed right there are only some lucky people that had this but its also that you need so much luck that its almost not possible.
Gambling is about losing and winning but at the end the most lost due to the fact they keep playing.

especially if we always rely on luck it is difficult to get a good win in the long run. at least the strategy was also very helpful, as manage bankroll, the right time to bet, not greedy, able to control yourself. not too often bet. because the more often bet the greater the chance for us to continue to lose.

Losing is never a big issue to me, but for people it is because they do not enjoy the act of gambling and they are too greedy of winner the money which is almost impossible in gambling, as soon as you understand that everyone is losing in the long run we will be making ways to limit our bets.

Anyone else here are issue when they are loosing there are lots of crying baby here at it is a big issue to lose if they don't want to lose and they all want is to win well i understand them as i am i want to win also but it is hard to do that.

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This is true but i know a small amount of people who do well as pro gamblers..

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Quote from: Rostadom on September 22, 2016, 03:34:05 AM

Yes, I agree that everyone loses in the long run. The reason for this is because even if a gambler is at positive profit, he'll still continue betting because he's addicted to it and thinks that he'll eventually hit the jackpot.

That's true and while you play in along run you will really not get back what you have lose even if you win I think you will not get all of your loses in just one win, but of course it is also depend on how much the jackpot is.

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I say yes to this title that doesn't matter where are you playing with money in the end you will face same destiny. Gambling which many people start for fun and later then reach to point that they are expert and most of them prediction goes well in sports betting. This puts them to take gambling serious and bigger bets is main cause of loosing in the long run.

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Yes, I agree that everyone loses in the long run. The reason for this is because even if a gambler is at positive profit, he'll still continue betting because he's addicted to it and thinks that he'll eventually hit the jackpot.

and if this is happen, then it will need a time when he realize in someday that he loss everything. its true that if we are gambling in the long run, we can loss all of our money. so better to play in short time or we have to choose to not to play gambling for the safest thing that we can do.

playing short time means you gamble once then never gamble again for the rest of your life. If you do big amount of small sessions it still counts as the long run and you can expect to lose your money. Many people lose big amounts of money big placing many small bets and losing track of their spendings quickly.

If you play in dice game for a long run im sure you will lose a lot.. but if you are just gamble in poker that game that we can call is long run game.. and i think you will lose but it is always depends in your luck. that why you are staying long in the game because you are also winning there and you are not satisfied what you had..

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Quote from: Rostadom on September 22, 2016, 03:34:05 AM

Yes, I agree that everyone loses in the long run. The reason for this is because even if a gambler is at positive profit, he'll still continue betting because he's addicted to it and thinks that he'll eventually hit the jackpot.

and if this is happen, then it will need a time when he realize in someday that he loss everything. its true that if we are gambling in the long run, we can loss all of our money. so better to play in short time or we have to choose to not to play gambling for the safest thing that we can do.

playing short time means you gamble once then never gamble again for the rest of your life. If you do big amount of small sessions it still counts as the long run and you can expect to lose your money. Many people lose big amounts of money big placing many small bets and losing track of their spendings quickly.

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Quote from: Rostadom on September 22, 2016, 03:34:05 AM

Yes, I agree that everyone loses in the long run. The reason for this is because even if a gambler is at positive profit, he'll still continue betting because he's addicted to it and thinks that he'll eventually hit the jackpot.

The main reason is gambling is not for giving profit to players but they to should pay for playing those games and get the enjoyment. You will not get both enjoyment and profit so you never should gamble just to make a profit instead just gamble and if your lucky then surely sometimes you will make some good profit.

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Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.

completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.

things make everyone lost in the long run are when they have not a large bankroll enough and a bankroll management that can adjust between your losing and winning. they gamble blindly and in the end you just got losing more and more.

I think that most gambling methods works that way and even if you had a large amount of bankroll you can not predict the thing to bet on and the rink involve in playing gambling will always be there and for the down fall every gambler will only rely on luck alone! but at least there are certain gamblers that can pretty much handle it than becoming addicted over gambling.

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Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.

completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.

things make everyone lost in the long run are when they have not a large bankroll enough and a bankroll management that can adjust between your losing and winning. they gamble blindly and in the end you just got losing more and more.

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Quote from: Rostadom on September 22, 2016, 03:34:05 AM

Yes, I agree that everyone loses in the long run. The reason for this is because even if a gambler is at positive profit, he'll still continue betting because he's addicted to it and thinks that he'll eventually hit the jackpot.

and if this is happen, then it will need a time when he realize in someday that he loss everything. its true that if we are gambling in the long run, we can loss all of our money. so better to play in short time or we have to choose to not to play gambling for the safest thing that we can do.

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Yes, I agree that everyone loses in the long run. The reason for this is because even if a gambler is at positive profit, he'll still continue betting because he's addicted to it and thinks that he'll eventually hit the jackpot.

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Basically while they're gambling the more you play of course higher chance of losing because if you dont have luck and experience better not to gamble. And those who have experience with it and by winning they are just being lucky, because when you do not win the attempt to play again. If you already win, quit already.

The only game where you can win in the long run that I know of is poker because many people have become rich because of that game.
You will have to be really good in order to become rich with it but it is possible to pull it of.

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Quote from: hua_hui on September 22, 2016, 12:54:01 AM

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Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.

completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.

this is how they survive. they are running a business afterall. if they lose it means their business is losing money and such business should be stopped. but it is not like that, they house always wins that is why their business is always bringing in a lot of profit for them depending on how popular they become.

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Quote from: Caladonian on September 21, 2016, 11:21:02 PM

Quote from: hua_hui on September 21, 2016, 09:03:51 PM

Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.

completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.

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For me if you can make profit in the long run then you have skill and lucked on your side because for me theres no 100% chance that you are making profit in the long run because sometimes if you spend too much time on that website you can probably lose everything.

bet discipline so I think it's possible to win in the long term, although it is not possible for you always win, but if you are smart to manage everything up, it should be able to win in the long run. I like playing every weekend and bet on sports betting, always run well and every week there is always benefit.

I doubt that any discipline or strategies can help you win in the long run (meaning you will have positive expectation) just because casino has an edge and there's nothing you can do about it.

Well that is the fact in gambling even how good you are going to gamble and how many good strategies you know and going to apply as you gamble. Still in the end, if you are not going to be a good gambler and disciplined one for sure you are just going to lose a lot of money with gambling. Because the favor is always with the house edge.

Gambling houses are always be a winner in the end of the game. They always have income everyday. So if you do not think twice or trice why you are playing gambling? what is your purpose? You will always end up losing money in the end.

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