Everyone looses in the long run - page 49.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

i think not every one but most of the people loses in the long run, because have personal experience about some people, as i saw some people who won a lot of money and then quit gambling for ever, and now leading a happy life.

This happens like once in a million. You can't really control your money and run away with it forever.. Because if you want to get $1k in a month or $250k per week in winnings it's the same thing, you can lose if unlucky or you can win it if you're lucky.

True, this are things that gambler should really have to considered first. The amount that you will be aiming to earn like your example is the same amount that you are also be going to lose too

That's necessary when you are in gambling, you need to know your goal whether how much you wanted to earn and lose, that is how to control your self in gambling because in most cases it is hard to control when we are winning or losing a big amount of money.

Not true when you have a target to stop after hit your winnings target and when you are closer with your winnings target it will make you a hurry to achieve it and sometimes you will get a defeat because you are not careful.

Well its a nature of gambling so you should be care about your funds if you want the real profit make sure to secure first your winning profit before you can start your new game..

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

i think not every one but most of the people loses in the long run, because have personal experience about some people, as i saw some people who won a lot of money and then quit gambling for ever, and now leading a happy life.

This happens like once in a million. You can't really control your money and run away with it forever.. Because if you want to get $1k in a month or $250k per week in winnings it's the same thing, you can lose if unlucky or you can win it if you're lucky.

True, this are things that gambler should really have to considered first. The amount that you will be aiming to earn like your example is the same amount that you are also be going to lose too

That's necessary when you are in gambling, you need to know your goal whether how much you wanted to earn and lose, that is how to control your self in gambling because in most cases it is hard to control when we are winning or losing a big amount of money.

Not true when you have a target to stop after hit your winnings target and when you are closer with your winnings target it will make you a hurry to achieve it and sometimes you will get a defeat because you are not careful.

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Casino are setup to make sure that they can gain money. And where does these money come from, it came from the gamblers. The games that they have are carefully designed so that the gambler will always be in a disadvantage situation that make you lose most of the time. However, they also dont want to let the advantage to be so big until you see as no hope of winning.

completely right they will allow you to win little by little allowing you to think that you are getting advantage coming from it but for sure playing on a long run will take that advantage from you and start collecting their earning from your money keeps you lose from time to time you play.

Yup, that is the power of probability. There is hope that you can win by luck but the more you play, the power of probability will creep in and drain away all your profit and eat into your bankroll. So trying to win the casino is very hard in the long run and that is also why in this world, there are more and more casino popping out especially in this decade we even had Macau's casinos overtook LA.

things make everyone lost in the long run are when they have not a large bankroll enough and a bankroll management that can adjust between your losing and winning. they gamble blindly and in the end you just got losing more and more.

I think that most gambling methods works that way and even if you had a large amount of bankroll you can not predict the thing to bet on and the rink involve in playing gambling will always be there and for the down fall every gambler will only rely on luck alone! but at least there are certain gamblers that can pretty much handle it than becoming addicted over gambling.

bankroll management hold a key role on gambler's statistics to make a profit or not , i believe on that . as long as people stick to the rules and doing a good bankroll management i guess everyone wouldn't lost in the long run' , just mostly. you could gain a profit steady everyday .

What about the persons that already being addicted with gambling I think even if he can manage his bankroll the addiction would still kick in and I think his deduction over his bankroll management will be gone because an addicted person in gambling will lose over his control when it comes to gambling and will keep on playing until his money goes to waste or rather keeps on playing even if he doesn't have money he would do something regardless on making a loan or borrowing money so he could satisfy his hunger over gambling.

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Quote from: zend7 on September 27, 2016, 08:52:28 AM

There is a way to not losing in sports betting but however there are certain requisites which very few people in real life have them.

1. Very large bankroll
2. Follow a good tipster not those of the forum for the time being ( usually betadvisor websites offer tipsters with odd more than 2 that rarely lose 3-4 times in a row)
3. Double your bet after every loss until you win (huge bankroll needed as I am saying)
4. Take your profit.

Risky but it shows it can be done.

Sports betting must be an exception among all other gambling types. Moreover, in my opinion sports betting is not a gambling, as it has room to apply our knowledge. Sports betting might get more chances to make more profits in long run whereas other gambling are not like that.

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There is a way to not losing in sports betting but however there are certain requisites which very few people in real life have them.

1. Very large bankroll
2. Follow a good tipster not those of the forum for the time being ( usually betadvisor websites offer tipsters with odd more than 2 that rarely lose 3-4 times in a row)
3. Double your bet after every loss until you win (huge bankroll needed as I am saying)
4. Take your profit.

Risky but it shows it can be done.

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Everyone loses in the long run because we are in gambling and the house always wins, that is the fact that every gambler should know. Gambling sites are created to make money and we are not.

That is why a lot of government allows casino to be built cause they will know that casino will earn a lot of money and from then, they can have a huge tax on the casino to get more growth for the government. However, the issue is whether the country is able to protect its citizen from creating any social issues.

Government are after of the big taxes they can collect in a casino because they know how profitable a gambling industry is, but this time gamblers are smarter, they adopt to bitcoin to get rid of tax laws and to maximize their income, no one tax you if you are anonymous.

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Those who play skill based games have a far better chance of winning in the long when they play often then those who play games of chance exclusively. Any game that takes a house edge is a losing proposition in the long run. One has a lot better chance of coming out ahead playing poker as opposed to slots, dice, plinko, or roulette. There is a significant amount of skill involved in the game of poker; whereas, games of chance alone don't provide many options other than bankroll management schemes, which are rarely effective and often abused.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 26, 2016, 04:41:34 AM

Everyone loses in the long run because we are in gambling and the house always wins, that is the fact that every gambler should know. Gambling sites are created to make money and we are not.

That is why a lot of government allows casino to be built cause they will know that casino will earn a lot of money and from then, they can have a huge tax on the casino to get more growth for the government. However, the issue is whether the country is able to protect its citizen from creating any social issues.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

thats true, i think it is better to just stay away from gambling because gambling websites will always make you lose money

That's why we should play these games only sometimes when you want some fun but most of the gamblers want to chase the winning from these games so they end up losing lot of money in gambling and that's why many new gambling houses are coming up.

Because once you have gambling site you will really make money. And if you have it, even if you play again and again that is okay as long as you know that you can earn more than what you have spend, that is just fine. Right?

Unless you own 100% of the gambling site, then you will not lose your money. For those who only own a part of it, you will stand to get back a small percentage of losses. And if you own the casino, it is quite pointless to gamble cause overall, you wont lose or gain anything when you play and that will remove the main point of gambling.

Owning or just partly an owner(investor) has the same probability of making profit, the reality will always happen that gamblers loses in the long run therefore the answer would be always be the casinos are profitable, now if you invest you take part of the profit base on percentage of ownership.

If investing is so much profitable as everybody here is saying in a casino bankroll then what is the casino gain for offering such opportunity especially when the casino is a big and known one ? I know there are a few well established casinos like crypto-games which offer such option but the number of the games there to play for gamblers is very small compared to other casinos so I guess that's why they want to make it attractive by offering investments.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

thats true, i think it is better to just stay away from gambling because gambling websites will always make you lose money

That's why we should play these games only sometimes when you want some fun but most of the gamblers want to chase the winning from these games so they end up losing lot of money in gambling and that's why many new gambling houses are coming up.

Because once you have gambling site you will really make money. And if you have it, even if you play again and again that is okay as long as you know that you can earn more than what you have spend, that is just fine. Right?

Unless you own 100% of the gambling site, then you will not lose your money. For those who only own a part of it, you will stand to get back a small percentage of losses. And if you own the casino, it is quite pointless to gamble cause overall, you wont lose or gain anything when you play and that will remove the main point of gambling.

Owning or just partly an owner(investor) has the same probability of making profit, the reality will always happen that gamblers loses in the long run therefore the answer would be always be the casinos are profitable, now if you invest you take part of the profit base on percentage of ownership.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

thats true, i think it is better to just stay away from gambling because gambling websites will always make you lose money

That's why we should play these games only sometimes when you want some fun but most of the gamblers want to chase the winning from these games so they end up losing lot of money in gambling and that's why many new gambling houses are coming up.

Because once you have gambling site you will really make money. And if you have it, even if you play again and again that is okay as long as you know that you can earn more than what you have spend, that is just fine. Right?

Unless you own 100% of the gambling site, then you will not lose your money. For those who only own a part of it, you will stand to get back a small percentage of losses. And if you own the casino, it is quite pointless to gamble cause overall, you wont lose or gain anything when you play and that will remove the main point of gambling.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 26, 2016, 04:41:34 AM

Everyone loses in the long run because we are in gambling and the house always wins, that is the fact that every gambler should know. Gambling sites are created to make money and we are not.

Gambling sites are made to fulfill the needs of the addicted gamblers that doesn't want to make some efforts to go outside of their homes just to gamble.

And yeah, they are running also for profit but I guess there are still gambling sites that are playing fair against to their gamblers.

SO if you don't want to lose in the long run better play smartly.

Gambling industry has been profitable for many year, having said that it only proved that more gamblers are losing compared to the successful gamblers, we should know our place and do the right thing because only few succeeds while the rest of us will lose in the long run.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 26, 2016, 04:41:34 AM

Everyone loses in the long run because we are in gambling and the house always wins, that is the fact that every gambler should know. Gambling sites are created to make money and we are not.

Gambling sites are made to fulfill the needs of the addicted gamblers that doesn't want to make some efforts to go outside of their homes just to gamble.

And yeah, they are running also for profit but I guess there are still gambling sites that are playing fair against to their gamblers.

SO if you don't want to lose in the long run better play smartly.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

thats true, i think it is better to just stay away from gambling because gambling websites will always make you lose money

That's why we should play these games only sometimes when you want some fun but most of the gamblers want to chase the winning from these games so they end up losing lot of money in gambling and that's why many new gambling houses are coming up.

Because once you have gambling site you will really make money. And if you have it, even if you play again and again that is okay as long as you know that you can earn more than what you have spend, that is just fine. Right?

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

That is all about business and of course the owners does want to earn only they don't care if their players are going to lose money. And they are even happier if their players are losing big amount of money to their business. Because that is how they are earning and it is the players fault if they are losing big money in the end.

the casino owner only 1 , and the players are thousands and even millions.

if you think logically yes there is n way casino lost , as they can choose as they wish to make thousands people lost and just let 1 or 2 player only to win , in this case most people will always lost their money in casino.

That's the reality that some gamblers failed to accept, instead they still play hoping that they can win more money or get back their loses, I pity them because I have been in the situation before.

yes the only thing make a gambler deserve to think are to hope they are one of not many lucky guy who allowed by the casino owner (the house edge) to win between thousands loser .

so basically everything back to the luck you have when you gamble.

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Everyone loses in the long run because we are in gambling and the house always wins, that is the fact that every gambler should know. Gambling sites are created to make money and we are not.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

i think not every one but most of the people loses in the long run, because have personal experience about some people, as i saw some people who won a lot of money and then quit gambling for ever, and now leading a happy life.

This happens like once in a million. You can't really control your money and run away with it forever.. Because if you want to get $1k in a month or $250k per week in winnings it's the same thing, you can lose if unlucky or you can win it if you're lucky.

True, this are things that gambler should really have to considered first. The amount that you will be aiming to earn like your example is the same amount that you are also be going to lose too

That's necessary when you are in gambling, you need to know your goal whether how much you wanted to earn and lose, that is how to control your self in gambling because in most cases it is hard to control when we are winning or losing a big amount of money.

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Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

i think not every one but most of the people loses in the long run, because have personal experience about some people, as i saw some people who won a lot of money and then quit gambling for ever, and now leading a happy life.

This happens like once in a million. You can't really control your money and run away with it forever.. Because if you want to get $1k in a month or $250k per week in winnings it's the same thing, you can lose if unlucky or you can win it if you're lucky.

True, this are things that gambler should really have to considered first. The amount that you will be aiming to earn like your example is the same amount that you are also be going to lose too

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Quote from: Universat on September 25, 2016, 11:03:54 PM

Quote from: purebitco on September 25, 2016, 06:56:11 AM

Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

i think not every one but most of the people loses in the long run, because have personal experience about some people, as i saw some people who won a lot of money and then quit gambling for ever, and now leading a happy life.

This happens like once in a million. You can't really control your money and run away with it forever.. Because if you want to get $1k in a month or $250k per week in winnings it's the same thing, you can lose if unlucky or you can win it if you're lucky.

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Quote from: Universat on September 25, 2016, 11:03:54 PM

Quote from: purebitco on September 25, 2016, 06:56:11 AM

Of course that they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers, so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then

i think not every one but most of the people loses in the long run, because have personal experience about some people, as i saw some people who won a lot of money and then quit gambling for ever, and now leading a happy life.

wow nice to know that theres someone who really control their earnings from gambling, hope he wont look back and tried to gambled again he may lose back again, thats the reality for playing long time the risk of losing even you already gained from it but if you are not satisfied you will keep coming back then loses in return.

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