Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
Damn is that some straight up racist B.S. there. 25 'sacks of rice.' Wow.
Topic: Evidence | Is HongKongCoin Dev team the Bittrex & Poloniex Imposters in Forum? (Read 2967 times)
April 09, 2014, 05:07:23 PM
Damn is that some straight up racist B.S. there. 25 'sacks of rice.' Wow.
April 09, 2014, 04:56:35 PM
Show us the overview!
When i solo mine it generate to the same adress, but i dont think i ever solo mined a Coingen coin on the other hand.
https://anonfiles.com/file/7bb37fc7cbc2842df4acefe4c1fcc1b8
Why did you premine so many blocks instead of putting the entire premine in the first block like a real developer would do?
When i solo mine it generate to the same adress, but i dont think i ever solo mined a Coingen coin on the other hand.
https://anonfiles.com/file/7bb37fc7cbc2842df4acefe4c1fcc1b8
Why did you premine so many blocks instead of putting the entire premine in the first block like a real developer would do?
April 09, 2014, 05:52:11 AM
Please don't try to distract people by using emotional tactic (nationalism or racism).
So basically, you don't think there is any need for auditing, and you want to do any auditing on the 2.5% premined coin. This is where the SCAM is.
Furthermore, you know your faucet is vulnerable, and you still have chosen it to "distribute" HKC to HK people. This is lack of responsibility. Moreover, this can give you room to escape any bugs found by auditing (in case it happens). This is where the SCAM is.
Last but not least, 2.5% premined HKC is not a small sum of money if HKC project succeeds. Here is my analysis:
1. HKC has max of 600 millions, block reward of 6000, and 2.5% premine. It will end up 15 millions HKC.
2. Auroracoin has a max of 21 million and 25 coins per block. From the technical point of view, 1 HKC is equivalent to 0.119 Auroracoin.
3. Auroracoin had a max market value of 0.1 BTC per coin in early March this year. If HKC reaches similar value, 2.5% premined HKC will have a value of 178,500 BTC.
4. Now (8 April) Auroracoin has a market value of 0.0035 BTC per coin. If HKC reaches similar value, 2.5% premined HKC will have a value of 6,247.5 BTC, which is still a good sum of money.
Unfortunately, as of now, HKC has a market value of 6 satoshi per coin. Then 2.5% premined HKC has a value of 0.9 BTC.
Yes, it is a pointless scam at this moment, but this is not HKC dev's original target.
Luckily miners/traders here understand that HKC suffers from various problems (coingen coin, problematic faucet, no integrity, problematic block explorer, etc), and understand that HKC is SCAM.
So basically, you don't think there is any need for auditing, and you want to do any auditing on the 2.5% premined coin. This is where the SCAM is.
Furthermore, you know your faucet is vulnerable, and you still have chosen it to "distribute" HKC to HK people. This is lack of responsibility. Moreover, this can give you room to escape any bugs found by auditing (in case it happens). This is where the SCAM is.
Last but not least, 2.5% premined HKC is not a small sum of money if HKC project succeeds. Here is my analysis:
1. HKC has max of 600 millions, block reward of 6000, and 2.5% premine. It will end up 15 millions HKC.
2. Auroracoin has a max of 21 million and 25 coins per block. From the technical point of view, 1 HKC is equivalent to 0.119 Auroracoin.
3. Auroracoin had a max market value of 0.1 BTC per coin in early March this year. If HKC reaches similar value, 2.5% premined HKC will have a value of 178,500 BTC.
4. Now (8 April) Auroracoin has a market value of 0.0035 BTC per coin. If HKC reaches similar value, 2.5% premined HKC will have a value of 6,247.5 BTC, which is still a good sum of money.
Unfortunately, as of now, HKC has a market value of 6 satoshi per coin. Then 2.5% premined HKC has a value of 0.9 BTC.
Yes, it is a pointless scam at this moment, but this is not HKC dev's original target.
Luckily miners/traders here understand that HKC suffers from various problems (coingen coin, problematic faucet, no integrity, problematic block explorer, etc), and understand that HKC is SCAM.
No, I do not think there is a need, because the premine is too small to even cover my expenses. My worries are about development, which is why i chose a small premine. Again, many coins with small premines do not audit. Why have you chosen to target me?
Like you said, HKC value does not merit a scam. HKC value does not merit ongoing development, which I have done. The last patch I have applied to HKC is worth more than the premine. So why am I doing this "pointless scam"
Isn't the point of a scam to make money? The fact that HKC is low value, yet I continue to support it, is my proof that I did not start HKC for money.
It is my proof that I started HKC for love, because its in my blood.
Again, the faucet is not vulnerable. It works like a standard faucet. You chose to exploit a weakness of all faucets. Everyone knows a faucet can not distribute perfactly, thats why I didn't put 50% in the faucet. Your attack could be made to any coin. Again, false "evidence".
Lucky miners understand that I have invalidated all of your "evidence" yet you continue to repeat it. Because that is your tactic.
Also here are the first 50 blocks of the mine. With all block addresses, and a picture of the wallet because of Vikings statement.
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:13:52 Mined 1DpXWreJrQVS14ws8TermynEi4MpAdFqAp 6000 a7be39451afa4c87361ff0adc24451131cb0919e0e13cf5a5e1bed1ab8f9a33b-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:13:52 Mined 13Vo5DZ9JBoNQwHjPuhCiNGEPaM2jYh2Dk 6000 c39f90b0852f8cd60164f2db21ea07d2e577e2f83d6366e594dfd233453430e5-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:13:49 Mined 1AtVGDdD2UL7H2soUSwBCynX55FdhtsTAY 6000 26484ef002240c66c284820261be37285803eef3de010b6ca3983e32f6cdbe1e-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:13:44 Mined 1MkNbbRXWuupJJa1Nye5rULcBqcKJ2E9yx 6000 1d09bc4e3539167bbfe10bef5bfb26e76b1af1f99679ac6813b27e2a94c94119-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:13:30 Mined 195YvXMQ9yvqREscxXbMAhzx68F6HT9PV1 6000 c44f1a5c63c3ec0c35ac79c96b9347b0d83ec04da5b5d7f7aa158aeb494ebbde-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:13:14 Mined 1L7W2dDbu5ZXKiJxWfGFDAuRrWUkRonx2T 6000 1b150e287c73a0732d31df4a8e9395fc28caf919f4a37b5719249425d680cb2d-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:43 Mined 1FYugoP57FrtvzK2if3kYsPh4Chpyhr9Nt 6000 6f4e33ffe5d78167ecdebcf36f99e64922c1d38e4f6d5d6be78e71fdb712da8c-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:26 Mined 1FcuJvNhpCzrA9HZg1eQyUukZ9TBRgJXKM 6000 940cc50722c1f57a6996005c4c4d0429529aee6a1331e616d8b4da9774d49e11-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:22 Mined 1774ju5T5Zw8QpmTtkFQyqiD5UrYV8dkbm 6000 fb9156f99f503ac27aee5dfb6361f397cdcd534a69069a0eb9e6b5c6ce007582-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:12 Mined 1CUKitU68GRTekjXE5Eu9TapWZ3WnA9JL 6000 e6aa3c88859d3bf14e1c69ad21dde3cc75a247c801a4317ead2979875dfa2eef-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:09 Mined 1Gg5XKZYXtKELDjozYo9aCP9uReXYHsiuL 6000 57d17e1ac17f71990155f1899380de9924612c72e0ca41e91669ee5a4805631c-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:03 Mined 17C7BJysd6vrophHCwvg12FV8xK79NDzVf 6000 702599d73cc99b796a8a5fa7aa977e1632f7123149fa9f7174809dc0de8f61e3-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:12:00 Mined 12kgZDi2yudc5CuDFFdCtFRPg1qJFcQ7gC 6000 2ac514e3129676a6f71f7d68d72f0adecda662454c6b3acb71743a8eebfadcd2-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:11:36 Mined 1CbnLqjZjcaMraUqg9eWVSUviUPrqG3gW5 6000 39d03bfb4c0760d99e00ef82347f1049e2d4f9558dce2bb8e1561da81d6a1281-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:11:35 Mined 13zpvaCyxHNaUmsfACz49EV63NqeRiKqvT 6000 670e1eacbd9f8fdc9f2eac32fcae4d70712924ef0b78fc2cb77a5bee91bd244a-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:11:33 Mined 1DEBiVuxZznpvVoBoZqqnaqrHd1Pqq3ZMq 6000 4f1175a834f9ee9d6871149f48c4b3bd20a79f0505b3c9d07ad198e1052469ae-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:11:09 Mined 1Jo4L5eL9DbrPLn3prorGxnmR7motnMhgx 6000 cec8fc0b52d37b9388dd5b7dd00876cc080bed1eed29e8e63a34b467b1c5f895-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:10:40 Mined 1KBcrxb6LF59txfQxaGLHQwRoSkH5g6RTq 6000 76a54f0c95df713b01ed90c945405e8c2f1ad129f8d3b4e272a678640a7e1adc-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:10:20 Mined 1ERTiUy6pDxMXGGMhHs8EUxQWUuMWuagfn 6000 68358377a55e1bee415a8afcdfafb4fa7ee8f34677b9cfa1c8ee8ea6e8cac8c7-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:10:18 Mined 1DVGLRwQu6f1rpBLfKEcu2aPav2vx92eDA 6000 6d883283a7b2827bb527eadce64c17002c5b3a6479a7959bc99e96b92d4c5122-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:10:04 Mined 1399aRyFcKbDyjXadj4KiCrZcZtJhvPPYe 6000 e4be6d678df94b9a476d3ffcbd77866254c307da6bf9a4d430c367f93aae6cef-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:10:00 Mined 1AenzuB9dSBHhLFMXMMeyBkpZn9FkX2WXq 6000 b3d82eff4f9c4d94193cccf45c37c21ac5442fbdac02605da78e19b88ca90916-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:09:58 Mined 18YXvxHMaKxn6si44qv75AVuXYtQFqVKo6 6000 cba06ff32a6449dc97adfcb87763476b56b1c850947095e6646670bfec9038a5-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:09:14 Mined 13WuDyLPP8dLfQWamMr1orryeoyYjQP1WT 6000 53e2fba1e5d8320e087c93f23b2fdbe8c678370b738aac31598e3407fe20b82f-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:09:00 Mined 13PJn2MAZ8DHVAKJHeTTw4GxXWpv5tWhX3 6000 7ee0f5bf0b4d0061420ef2c1205d94342fbed141c534398662a6f2d93bf7e5fc-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:08:46 Mined 1KFBez2SaarnnpRWupujvg7UfgeMKkQWKT 6000 092454e2f169b4775c0a1d741e3551af855228a990781b0f580c183a8a84f009-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:08:44 Mined 1NnMdBDrxFUSagejqWbXGo45U9tgG5qFMB 6000 41e8d2cec2a9e5f4b80c1ff5e04ba7bc0ba69814563557a7a24422a11a8b380e-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:07:44 Mined 154QimBmfHK1ee7bWvG2Gef6YKDndPAeEs 6000 93ee2dd9a3dc9fbed301456602db0f4bb1a76fa224b3c96f082ae7bdb0be3d73-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:07:38 Mined 18aHkGHm9hJRCr77hF4mae3R5BGnyFQ8gZ 6000 e81cd89bca1131edfd35393014a7628bfb04985e8b6e12025e4de8a378ae9e5c-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:07:08 Mined 1L3SfhHdG4afB5U8GS6kTbDu7r4jkJbwWj 6000 dbe1c42e441128790e5661fabfb82d486a31d98404eae95ad7a847984daf28d5-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:06:57 Mined 126UP6Yju2g8tFnYWzke2s9kjXKpWKk3bz 6000 32ed66d01d2ec330d900593567987c963dacbd88b3bd50afc908341b763a3ae2-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:06:24 Mined 1NDPsmnH5ZAuXr5iosUeF9mhzVSEdSGanz 6000 53e055ca0ab1e1ec61128f98987a06d5328f51419074e79ebc526af2f78797be-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:06:23 Mined 14tViXK4CMP4Fm4GzRrtv7yoTgHWxNEuqZ 6000 920ec3e648a41c436d3d367ec69e54eaf7c3b597fe64262cc511e1232c2543a7-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:06:19 Mined 1MaNRdtE4M3jPAxbDcGVBqy7FuyQAkv2sT 6000 c4254e1d1c84adf927518bb53ba2cc6091200cd0cb694c5c8bc25848f0d7bdba-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:05:54 Mined 1Cv9sXmQC8WGbiriVCaAFJhtmfNrMbj1zX 6000 5469c1b5c43a6070308ebd79fb4d925dd719b82c5d721bbc0d78b234ee4eb3d1-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:05:43 Mined 1MfanyAV6WzNr7t5kLRZmYXu5R5hJUckGx 6000 444a955e105a698853148ae373a12a72aee642928496ffff1b7b19d89dd21730-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:05:32 Mined 19haCWB1m2jyG4PXoMq81FLfbmEVBwYjf5 6000 65737c2cfea4383b2c1052b819d4c5ae652033250843edab3b7c7253293ab072-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:05:15 Mined 14JYPbS4xkJJzALuSGqZrQM6s8eJZ62FJX 6000 f9bbb59ddcb53a3b9c3bb4c61cb7150f34846ddaff4742a9fa58eb31d6f8879f-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:04:59 Mined 16853UxmzWmscykK8cRifbGeyvEhAxAEt2 6000 aa0c7f057807247bca5b24a7daee0d5631ae13b699547011ce2c6a26a936e1c7-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:04:40 Mined 19Vw1b8ruwixM3ec1Dh27sCBo81ZQWWgZL 6000 d55f0aaab5ca263a2c8a1f08cc180c5e1de67882fa23d8191dcb1782629a37f2-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:04:33 Mined 17mP8JGxJX37gjvYykbhniusc2otEngySg 6000 cae81eebdf8719994df03efc5587e0f6340940a9c8927e50bf51ccca471e0979-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:04:25 Mined 1Cz7CDAiYQCKP5C9FfFtCUebhBSuXunY7L 6000 19207b874d215c9cf508b9debec0816ffdd52b56ef4ec8c9c398b3b6e2b9095c-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:04:00 Mined 19gN1r7KTk7YPEFSCQK3XS9NbiGFXPAuTx 6000 7b1d126671cce57808047ab3ebded62599a5338c143de115ac34a2bc6cb53aad-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:55 Mined 1BTs5vQnufRvN5hcFnzbsar4qCQsgN4vj2 6000 1311e3cf0faa0b4d3f71dcae09325afd913e8a48c421e2e1f1d5f6d7ef322d2a-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:50 Mined 12WJx5pXo9wvBcsqG8LUHEm4k5qQmr5Xki 6000 2f4a517daf6cfe81d3eaa894466148643fb2f6ff4ed7fcfed3fcbdf0e80f137e-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:37 Mined 1Mm4qSpA5p1VT227rtSupw55eH2T41pCQk 6000 78a5b65e028fe0b117a0aeec512329723a6de91469f1e43fab083ae44437ec55-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:28 Mined 12a9euvSWiNHmYANQMCo4XWsJRCVTRhRwV 6000 ccbb1153a44cbd8471f319e8fbe2533c9328d381891db75a35d506f4d3444e29-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:26 Mined 1PMy18FW4u1vGuA3i3Ki5523E9syxi3Jry 6000 70ab90dd9c771a99f3590a4d6435c2e4222f21a7c8c3a49e1df59d4aa96a9dcd-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:18 Mined 12yf5nX58NoFswmNTGVuHPKCGqscK9byYg 6000 500d2a67acd16fcdc9e5f56c29331d8ad4b042c4f5bc8cf0e51d16f31ed3c9ed-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:13 Mined 13EdgsPqm5ETm8FbpABVfafW7rtqv1UKjT 6000 f23023d3118fb5feb92f8d67598efb786133c0b7bd58f5ad421eff0642ad4a95-000
TRUE 2014-03-06T21:03:10 Mined 1H2bEuRh9Fo5LmPF66q69B5WcW7CafCZFn 6000 87ab71db000449231608a9443b8d2bfe4d66759f0ad37aa3289c0479fca54146-000
April 08, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
Out of curiosity, I checked how much the premine is worth. The 25 sacks of rice may be optimistic. Even if the dev cashed out the entire premine, he might get enough for a couple of meals at a restaurant? That assumes the premine numbers are accurate.
If the dev is scamming anyone, it'd be like the most pointless scam ever.
The answer to your point is very simple. Let's imagine for HKC with max of 600 millions, block reward of 6000, and 2.5% premine. It will end up 15 millions HKC.
Auroracoin has a max of 21 million and 25 coins per block. From the technical point of view, 1 HKC is equivalent to 0.119 Auroracoin.
Auroracoin had a max market value of 0.1 BTC per coin in early March this year. If HKC reaches similar value, 2.5% premined HKC will have a value of 178,500 BTC.
Now (8 April) Auroracoin has a market value of 0.0035 BTC per coin. If HKC reaches similar value, 2.5% premined HKC will have a value of 6,247.5 BTC, which is still a good sum of money.
Unfortunately, as of now, HKC has a market value of 3 satoshi per coin. Then 2.5% premined HKC has a value of 0.45 BTC.
Yes, it is a pointless scam at this moment, but this is not HKC dev's original target.
Luckily miners/traders here understand that HKC suffers from various problems (coingen coin, problematic faucet, no integrity, problematic block explorer, etc), and understand that HKC is SCAM.
April 08, 2014, 10:32:31 PM
Yes, it is impossible to trace the premined HKC. Thanks for listing all search outputs here.
The HKC block chain explorer is problematic. It never gives you a correct wallet address. All HKC wallet address should be starting with "1", but all HKC wallet addresses in outputs are starting with "2".
I have pointed out this problem before in HKC ANN thread before. Unfortunately, people there just said that I told lies and made this up... This is really crazy that truth is being buried by tons of lies. I am so glad that MiningViking also found problems in HKC blockchain explorer and posted the output HKC wallet addresses, and then proved that I was not telling lies (well.. at least on the problem of HKC block chain explorer).
I also think that something has been hidden. This is why I refused to do auditing for HKC dev team. Even I found some problem. People there will just say again that I am telling lies and make this up... Truth will be again buried by tons of lies.
Nothing has been hidden, the only thing that has been exposed if your lack of understanding.
The block explorer was created as part of a bounty, We do not run it. If it is not functional, then install ABE for yourself, so that you can do your research. Go and find someone who knows how coins work, and ask them before you keep making yourself look stupid.
This is a good excuse that the block explorer is not run by HKC dev team, when people have found that there are any problems. All coin team dev should have the responsibility to find someone to make a functional block explorer for public use.
Obviously, HKC dev you do not think it is your responsibility. Then what is your responsibility? How do you think HKC can make a revolution in the HongKong financial system when you are not responsible for this and that?
Everybody in bitcointalk knows who is stupid.
HKC dev cannot even differentiate the differences between the wallet addresses starting with "1" and those starting with "2". LOL
April 08, 2014, 09:39:36 PM
Yeah but he have spread them over 1 wallet id / block..
block 50:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
block 51:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
block 52:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
So impossible to trace, i guess this was done intentionally..b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
Quite a task to double check 2500 blocks that way.
The only reason you would do like this is to hide something.
Are you a mental midget? The coins were solo mined with bfgminer using default settings. That is the normal output from mining a block. All of the coins end up in 1 address.Please go start a coin and mine it, so you can educate yourself or Please consult someone who knows something about how coins work before making wild accusations. [/size][/b]
Everybody please try to use the HKC blockchain explorer (link below) to search info of block 50 - 52. Then you will know that MiningViking is telling the truth.
Another possibility is that the outputs of the HKC blockchain explorer are wrong. For the latter case, it is strange that such problem cannot be picked up by the HKC dev. Well.. for people using coingen coin as a cryptocurrency for launching, I could understand that they may not have the capability to pick up such simple mistakes.... LOL
http://hkc.exploreblocks.com:2754/chain/HongKongCoin
April 08, 2014, 08:55:55 PM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
Check the first 2500 Blocks in the Blockexplorer.
Regards
Yeah but he have spread them over 1 wallet id / block..
block 50:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
block 51:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
block 52:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
So impossible to trace, i guess this was done intentionally..b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
Quite a task to double check 2500 blocks that way.
The only reason you would do like this is to hide something.
Yes, it is impossible to trace. Thanks for listing all search outputs here.
The HKC block chain explorer is problematic. It never gives you a correct wallet address. All HKC wallet address should be starting with "1", but all HKC wallet addresses in outputs are starting with "2".
I have pointed out this problem before in HKC thread before. Unfortunately, people there just said that I told lies and made this up... This is really crazy that truth is being buried by tons of lies. I am so glad that MiningViking also found problems in HKC blockchain explorer and posted the output HKC wallet addresses, and then proved that I was not telling lies (well.. at least on the problem of HKC block chain explorer).
I also think that something has been hidden. This is why I refused to do auditing for HKC dev team. Even I found some problem. People there will just say again that I am telling lies and make this up... Truth will be again buried by tons of lies.
April 08, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
Check the first 2500 Blocks in the Blockexplorer.
Regards
Yeah but he have spread them over 1 wallet id / block..
block 50:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
block 51:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
block 52:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
So impossible to trace, i guess this was done intentionally..b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
Quite a task to double check 2500 blocks that way.
The only reason you would do like this is to hide something.
Are you a mental midget? The coins were solo mined with bfgminer using default settings. That is the normal output from mining a block. All of the coins end up in 1 address.Please go start a coin and mine it, so you can educate yourself or Please consult someone who knows something about how coins work before making wild accusations.
Also hongkongcoin qt has been updated for logo, and openssl vulnerability has been patched. Please update your wallets.
http://hongkongco.in/hongkongcoinqt.zip
April 08, 2014, 11:57:30 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
Out of curiosity, I checked how much the premine is worth. The 25 sacks of rice may be optimistic. Even if the dev cashed out the entire premine, he might get enough for a couple of meals at a restaurant? That assumes the premine numbers are accurate.
If the dev is scamming anyone, it'd be like the most pointless scam ever.
April 08, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
Check the first 2500 Blocks in the Blockexplorer.
Regards
Yeah but he have spread them over 1 wallet id / block..
block 50:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
c39f90b085... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gpdNLbz9q2QH9GAnLrdeYqQQL9xFTn2Rtj: 6000
block 51:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
a7be39451a... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2gzx6nF5KPF6LjPpv5QbJcSvQedy2xP2eid: 6000
block 52:
Quote
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
So impossible to trace, i guess this was done intentionally..b51be4ea12... 0 0.106 Generation: 6000 + 0 total fees 2h8cRhj3HMBvBRmXTsw9pEhjV8DvcgEdMKW: 6000
Quite a task to double check 2500 blocks that way.
The only reason you would do like this is to hide something.
April 08, 2014, 10:24:41 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
Check the first 2500 Blocks in the Blockexplorer.
Regards
April 08, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
Thanks for this constructive suggestion. This could help a bit, however we still could not trace whether the premined HKC coins go (because the owners of the wallet addresses are anonymous).
Proper auditing by a third party is a must.
true but just seeing it in the blockchain would give a pretty good idea if its there or not.
April 08, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
Thanks for this constructive suggestion. This could help a bit, however we still could not trace where the premined HKC coins go (because the owners of the wallet addresses are anonymous).
Proper auditing by a third party is a must.
April 08, 2014, 08:35:18 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
blablablablablablabla + insert picture
Show us the premine in the block explorer instead.
You could end this discussion pretty easy but you choose to not do so.
April 08, 2014, 05:58:10 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
I offered a challenge to cryptobuddy to prove that I was dumping, and he wouldn't accept that challenge. I even setup a block explorer and offered to shutdown the coin if he could find any evidence.
He is all talk. An epic troll.
.I refused because I don't think I am a capable person to do the auditing.
Everybody has its roles and capability. As I have been named as a "anti-HKC" person .... even I found any problem in the HKC giveways, HKC dev team can still say I tell lies, I have a hidden agenda and want to kill HKC, etc.
Therefore, it is much fair to find a reliable third person to do the auditing.
I would suggest HKC dev team to employ a certified accountant or invite a very honorable senior bitcointalk member to do the auditing.
Could you HKC dev stop trolling in this thread by posting the huge HKC coin logo? Removal of the posted logos will be appreciated.
April 08, 2014, 05:52:47 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
I offered a challenge to cryptobuddy to prove that I was dumping, and he wouldn't accept that challenge. I even setup a block explorer and offered to shutdown the coin if he could find any evidence.
He is all talk. An epic troll.
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April 08, 2014, 05:43:28 AM
Premine dumped, dev buys 25 sacks of rice and live happily ever after.
April 08, 2014, 05:20:08 AM
Totally agreed...
Especially when a Coingen coin could be used to make a City coin.
And .. when such crap coin.. there are people trying hard to defense, support and promote!!!
Especially when a Coingen coin could be used to make a City coin.
And .. when such crap coin.. there are people trying hard to defense, support and promote!!!
HongKongCoin has not created any imposter accotunts. Cryptobuddy aka Cryptohubby is a serial liar and has worked 24/7 to post negative inaccurate comments about HKC. All of his lies have been disproven. Check his post history here and on cryptocointalk and you will see. I think he might have a profit motive, because posting lies about HKC seems to be his full time job.
About HKC
HongKongCoin was the first country coin to distribute locally. We have been open and honest, the premine was only 2.5 percent and we have been successfully infusing the coins to HK'ers.
This is no auditing step for monitoring in what proportion of 2.5% premined HKC will go the hands of real Hong Kong people. It is possible that eventually most of those premined HKC will be owned by the HKC dev and sold out to make a good profit. This is where the SCAM is.
Now you understand why HKC dev keeps asking people to go to Bittrex to buy HKC, instead of minting HKC.
Purchase Hong Kong Coin HKC @ Bittrex.com
April 08, 2014, 05:14:31 AM
Be Careful! 
...to listen to lies!
Hongkongcoin team is most honest in world...
How to prove that HongKongcoin is most honest in world?
Laugh my head off.
The HongKongcoin dev said he was born in HK, however, he refused to provide any evidence. This is what you say "most honest"?
Here is the evidence for his honesty:
........ YOU ARE A WORTHLESS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING. I WANT YOU GONE. ALSO I DO NOT SPEAK CANTONESE AND DO NOT CURRENTLY LIVE IN HONG KONG BUT I WAS BORN IN HONG KONG AND MADE THIS COIN BECAUSE IT IS IN MY BLOOD. EVEN THO I DO NOT NEED TO BE FROM HONG KONG TO CREATE ANY COIN I WANT.
MY IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS WILL NOT BE GIVEN OUT. I WILL ESPECIALLY NOT GIVE IT TO A LUNATIC. DO YOU WANT SATOSHI NAKAMOTO'S DOCUMENTS TOO. YOU FUCKING LUNATIC. ......... YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
Lunatic troll of the year cryptobuddy wants me to post my ID, so he can come and stalk me. Not gonna happen Buddy
Maybe you should post your ID. Lets see if your really from Hong Kong.
I have mentioned before. I could easily prove that I live in Hong Kong. I can easily switch on my TV and take some photos to show you the real-time TV programs in Hong Kong. I could also go outdoor and take some real life video of the Hong Kong people's vivid living. Anyone how needs these pieces of proof, please PM me.
P.S. I thought you (HongKongCoin dev) hated trolling with big bold letters, but now you are using them to troll in my thread.
April 08, 2014, 05:11:37 AM
Be Careful!
...to listen to lies!
Hongkongcoin team is most honest in world...
How to prove that HongKongcoin is most honest in world?
Laugh my head off.
The HongKongcoin dev said he was born in HK, however, he refused to provide any evidence. This is what you say "most honest"?
Here is the evidence for his honesty:
........ YOU ARE A WORTHLESS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING. I WANT YOU GONE. ALSO I DO NOT SPEAK CANTONESE AND DO NOT CURRENTLY LIVE IN HONG KONG BUT I WAS BORN IN HONG KONG AND MADE THIS COIN BECAUSE IT IS IN MY BLOOD. EVEN THO I DO NOT NEED TO BE FROM HONG KONG TO CREATE ANY COIN I WANT.
MY IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS WILL NOT BE GIVEN OUT. I WILL ESPECIALLY NOT GIVE IT TO A LUNATIC. DO YOU WANT SATOSHI NAKAMOTO'S DOCUMENTS TOO. YOU FUCKING LUNATIC. ......... YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
Lunatic troll of the year cryptobuddy wants me to post my ID, so he can come and stalk me. Not gonna happen Buddy
Maybe you should post your ID. Lets see if your really from Hong Kong.
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