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Topic: Evidence that 'efxtrader' account changed hands and is now a typical shitposter. (Read 553 times)

legendary
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Unfortunately, this is one thread I neglected to make self-moderated, and cryptohunter has infested it with his idiocy.  Therefore I'm going to lock it.  If efxtrader has any defense, he can PM me and I'll open up a new thread or I'll unlock this one.
legendary
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Sorry for this off topic question but how exactly you fight against shitposting? The member Coolcryptovator is the living example of shitposting and no measures are taken against him, not only that but he got quite a lot of merits.

You fight against shitposting by reporting shitposts to moderators.

Moderators support proven shit posters on DT Sad  so that may not work.

what can be done? I asked him flat out for explanation of this I got .....................................silence.
legendary
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It is not necessary to be a native english speaker to be a good poster.
legendary
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Sorry for this off topic question but how exactly you fight against shitposting? The member Coolcryptovator is the living example of shitposting and no measures are taken against him, not only that but he got quite a lot of merits.

You fight against shitposting by reporting shitposts to moderators.
legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
Sorry for this off topic question but how exactly you fight against shitposting? The member Coolcryptovator is the living example of shitposting and no measures are taken against him, not only that but he got quite a lot of merits.
It is crystal clear that his English is pathetic to say the least yet he has ALL DT support ?

Double standards everywhere. That is why this forum will never be like it used to be.

Also the pharmacist is a proven shit poster but he creates sock puppets to racist troll sig spam under then gets caught out LOL

Talk about double standards

Huge Black Woman is a proven alt of the pharmacist.

Read all about him here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/racism-is-allowed-5096914

Some how though a PROVEN sneaky devious greedy trolling racist sock puppet sig spammer is on DT and a merit source.
copper member
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Sorry for this off topic question but how exactly you fight against shitposting? The member Coolcryptovator is the living example of shitposting and no measures are taken against him, not only that but he got quite a lot of merits.
It is crystal clear that his English is pathetic to say the least yet he has ALL DT support ?

Double standards everywhere. That is why this forum will never be like it used to be.
legendary
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I looked at his post history (not all of his posts, of which there are many), and I'm not so sure about this one.  His English wasn't excellent in 2014 and is about the same right now, except that his posts seem to be very much like all the other bounty shitposters in content--just vapid statements with generalizations that could be made by anyone.  There is a post gap in 2015-16, but it's only a few months and the quality didn't seem to change much after that.

Not enough evidence in this case for me to tag him, but thanks for looking out for these bought/hacked accounts.

All of them are hacked or sold accounts, they were inactive for some time and all woke up in mid-july 2018 to start posting for signature campaigns. I’ve noted their posting gaps and the date when they woke up again:
Looks like Gunthar tagged them all, which I appreciate since I'm not in the mood for any detective work right now and might not be back scouting out the bought accounts for a couple of weeks.
legendary
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I'm on the lookout for high-ranked shitposters with old accounts, because I suspect that some of them have been bought or hacked and have quietly slipped back into the spam megathreads.

I got one for you:

kodtycoon https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kodtycoon-174773

This person was big on spearheading NEM marketing back near its inception, then I was quite surprised to come across one of their posts and see their IQ had dropped about 50 points. They pretty much only use it to apply to sig campaigns these days. I gave them a neutral trust warning that the account had changed hands.
legendary
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Just cut the bullshit. Nobody is going to believe that, therefore you will remain tagged.
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Dear sir,

I don't know how to explain like DT members want because the accusations are only based on assumptions. In this post, I was immediately put to the point of being a defendant and a suspect and must be guilty

First, about my English. Perspective of a person is certainly different about the good or not of someone's language and surely language is written or spoken based on the mood or the person being spoken to. And perspective is certainly not strong evidence.

The second is about changing passwords. Is the person changing the password a proof of trading account? If this happens, surely people will worry about the security of their account because it cannot be changed except with the approval of DT member.

I will accept this accusation if I switch from posting on board Indonesia to the Russian Board for example, but this does not happen in my account.

I am sure that the DT members are people who understand the accusations and certainly do not want to be prosecutors and executors at the same time. And even if it becomes a claimant, it must be based on very strong evidence and not based on assumptions because the assumptions of each person must be different. It would be very unfortunate if DT member made an accusation and immediately sentenced him only based on assumptions.

This incident was like I was accused of having an affair just because I didn't reply to messages for days, and she said the proof was that you didn't reply to my message.  Grin


Regards.
legendary
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Is because i am change to post in english thread so i am accused bought this account?
Nope, but that's part of the evidence.

Its true that i am change my password but its because my security. Someone trying my enter my account. I can not give a prove to you about this but is it a my fault if i am change my password?
I never even mentioned anything about a password change, but explain to me how someone "tried" to gain access to your account, and how you somehow thwarted that attempt by changing your password.  That just doesn't make sense to me.

And about gap posting, i am forget what i do between 5 days but its clearly not more than a year or months.
Uh, I showed in the OP where the enormous gap was, and it was more than 5 days:

Then there's a huge gap, and when the account resumes posting on December 1, 2017 it is on the Indonesian local board with this:
semuanya masih menanti bro Smiley btw yang gajian duluan malahan peserta bounty telegram ni yah

He continues to post in Indonesian up until March 26, 2018, and after a gap of a few days he starts writing in English again on April 7, 2018--only this time, the quality of English has turned from eloquent into something that should look familiar to those of us who fight against shitposting:
From my opinion, there is something positive from that policy. That policy can avoid from criminal action like money laundrying and for goverment, that policy can prevent from massive outflow capital.

And no, your defense is weak and doesn't clear up anything.  It only exposes you as a liar as well as an account buyer or a hacker.
Sir, i am Indonesian and i can not sure you my english is good but because my english grammar mistake, i am breaking the rules?
This has nothing to do with the quality of your English or your nationality.  It has to do with account buying/hacking.
legendary
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Sir, i am Indonesian and i can not sure you my english is good but because my english grammar mistake, i am breaking the rules?

Nope you were not tagged because you broke any rule if you break rules you'll be banned. Your account was tagged by DT's because it has change of hands (ownership) written all over it.  Read this reply to understand more.  After you applied to join a signature campaign you started posting in english again but this time the english isn't the same like your previous ones.  The tag is just as a warning as this account can't be trusted but you're free to continue posting in forum.
legendary
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Dear sir,

I want to defend my self that i am not bought this account. Is because i am change to post in english thread so i am accused bought this account? Yes, I am Indonesian and i am change to english post because the topic in local indonesia board limited and its more various in english post.

Its true that i am change my password but its because my security. Someone trying my enter my account. I can not give a prove to you about this but is it a my fault if i am change my password? And about gap posting, i am forget what i do between 5 days but its clearly not more than a year or months.

Hopely with this information can clear something.

Regards

You went from speaking flawless English to making simple grammar mistakes. This whole accusation couldn't be more obvious.

Sir, i am Indonesian and i can not sure you my english is good but because my english grammar mistake, i am breaking the rules?

Let me keep this simple. Look at the post history of your account:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9726169
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9715888
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9663690
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10278426

All of these posts are written in (near) perfect English. Your current posts are written in poor English. It is highly obvious that you are not the original owner of the account, hence the negative feedback that people left you.
full member
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GoMeat - Digitalizing Meat Stores - ICO
Dear sir,

I want to defend my self that i am not bought this account. Is because i am change to post in english thread so i am accused bought this account? Yes, I am Indonesian and i am change to english post because the topic in local indonesia board limited and its more various in english post.

Its true that i am change my password but its because my security. Someone trying my enter my account. I can not give a prove to you about this but is it a my fault if i am change my password? And about gap posting, i am forget what i do between 5 days but its clearly not more than a year or months.

Hopely with this information can clear something.

Regards

You went from speaking flawless English to making simple grammar mistakes. This whole accusation couldn't be more obvious.

Sir, i am Indonesian and i can not sure you my english is good but because my english grammar mistake, i am breaking the rules?
legendary
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฿uy ฿itcoin
Dear sir,

I want to defend my self that i am not bought this account. Is because i am change to post in english thread so i am accused bought this account? Yes, I am Indonesian and i am change to english post because the topic in local indonesia board limited and its more various in english post.

Its true that i am change my password but its because my security. Someone trying my enter my account. I can not give a prove to you about this but is it a my fault if i am change my password? And about gap posting, i am forget what i do between 5 days but its clearly not more than a year or months.

Hopely with this information can clear something.

Regards

You went from speaking flawless English to making simple grammar mistakes. This whole accusation couldn't be more obvious.
full member
Activity: 924
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GoMeat - Digitalizing Meat Stores - ICO
Dear sir,

I want to defend my self that i am not bought this account. Is because i am change to post in english thread so i am accused bought this account? Yes, I am Indonesian and i am change to english post because the topic in local indonesia board limited and its more various in english post.

Its true that i am change my password but its because my security. Someone trying my enter my account. I can not give a prove to you about this but is it a my fault if i am change my password? And about gap posting, i am forget what i do between 5 days but its clearly not more than a year or months.

Hopely with this information can clear something.

Regards
legendary
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I do this on my own time and receive no compensation for doing it.  Why don't YOU look into who's paying for these morons to post?
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Right..
That's sort of what I was getting at, wondering if you thought it would be worthwhile to also look into who is paying such megathread shitposters for their megathread shitposts, and on what grounds, and what standard..

In any case, it would be one hell of a task for a bounty manager to find every one of these bought accounts.  It took me about 20 minutes to compile enough evidence just to bust this one account, so I highly doubt a BM is going to go through all of his applicants checking for this stuff, even if he cared to do so.  Nor do I think it's their responsibility.  They want members who are going to post and I'll bet most BMs don't care whether the account has changed hands or not.  That's a battle that only some of us have chosen to fight.
I don't think it is the bounty managers responsibility to worry about sold accounts or most anything they deserve a tag for, but it is the managers responsibility to hold some standard of post quality.
What that standard is and what should be done about it I don't know but this account is probably atleast close to borderline..

This thread probably isn't the place to discuss the topic anyway. I will think about it for a while and maybe discuss it later..
Anyway, good job..
member
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Yes, but it may take some time.  I appreciate the input--those are exactly the kinds of accounts I would suspect are bought/hacked, though I haven't looked at their posting history yet. 

It's not surprising they haven't ranked up higher than they did because of those gaps.
No problem, they seem to be inactive right now (2 of them enrolled in Ethereum Classic Vision signature campaign, but stopped posting after 1 week). Most of the evidence is already archived (posting gap).
legendary
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If you have some additional time, you can have a look at a farm of 13 bought accounts.
Yes, but it may take some time.  I appreciate the input--those are exactly the kinds of accounts I would suspect are bought/hacked, though I haven't looked at their posting history yet. 

It's not surprising they haven't ranked up higher than they did because of those gaps.
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If you have some additional time, you can have a look at a farm of 13 bought accounts. I detected their abuse last year and compiled the evidence, I'll just copy the important part referring to the bought accounts. All accounts are only Members but I think if the aren't tagged they might be sold again:  

All of them are hacked or sold accounts, they were inactive for some time and all woke up in mid-july 2018 to start posting for signature campaigns. I’ve noted their posting gaps and the date when they woke up again:  


AccountRegistration datePosting gap last postPosting gap next postArchive
wedar001January 16, 2014, 08:28:23 AMSeptember 20, 2016, 01:35:03 PMJuly 14, 2018, 03:25:44 AMhttp://archive.is/QUEqw#selection-343.5-343.31
littleheartDecember 05, 2013, 10:32:37 AMSeptember 28, 2017, 12:26:15 PMJuly 14, 2018, 03:45:52 AMhttp://archive.is/h3CbE#selection-1603.5-1603.31
harmJune 01, 2011, 08:33:07 AMApril 23, 2013, 10:05:23 PMApril 10, 2018, 08:06:12 PMhttp://archive.is/YdC3e#selection-1047.1-1047.32 started normal posting also on July 14,2018
5stringerJanuary 12, 2013, 07:24:57 PMApril 07, 2014, 01:30:31 PMJuly 14, 2018, 04:11:51 AMhttp://archive.is/nyeoe#selection-1463.1-1463.32
dudeguyMay 10, 2013, 02:43:42AM August 21, 2013, 01:50:22 AMJuly 14, 2018, 04:15:10 AMhttp://archive.is/HN0to#selection-1051.5-1051.31
CycleSurferDecember 09, 2013, 03:05:07 PMDecember 16, 2014, 04:05:08 AMJuly 14, 2018, 04:22:55 AMhttp://archive.is/l2A2s#selection-1183.5-1183.31
philXOctober 27, 2013, 09:46:37 AMJune 16, 2015, 10:52:33 AMJuly 14, 2018, 04:34:23 AMhttp://archive.is/Rkrng#selection-347.5-347.31
madokaJanuary 09, 2014, 03:43:01 PMNovember 22, 2016, 12:40:04 PMJuly 16, 2018, 04:46:35 AMhttp://archive.is/AMkZN#selection-1047.5-1047.31
AaronVanWJanuary 06, 2014, 01:21:20 PMOctober 08, 2015, 12:58:33 PMJuly 14, 2018, 04:48:39 AMhttp://archive.is/pKgJ9#selection-347.5-347.31
pryzhJanuary 15, 2014, 11:10:53 AMMay 20, 2015, 10:18:53 AMJuly 14, 2018, 05:30:42 AMhttp://archive.is/x5yPH#selection-903.5-903.32
VasyaApril 29, 2013, 02:28:42 PMMay 21, 2015, 04:30:47 PMJuly 16, 2018, 04:57:07 AMhttp://archive.is/ff7G1#selection-1599.5-1599.31
funkenschusterFebruary 09, 2013, 01:23:46 PMNovember 12, 2015, 12:55:28 PMJuly 14, 2018, 05:50:59 AMhttp://archive.is/HIH36#selection-1463.5-1463.31
SFminerNovember 22, 2013, 07:43:23 PMJuly 29, 2016, 01:37:12 PMJuly 17, 2018, 07:18:37 AMhttp://archive.is/KxX1P#selection-969.5-969.31


My complete report is here. Originally, I reported them for cheating a bounty. I've tagged them when I made my report, but I'm not on DT.

Edit: It's a mix of former Chinese, German, Dutch and Russian accounts.

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