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legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 2061
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Please stop playing dumb. hasmukh_rawal and crptotrader007 connected both via eth and btc addresses:

The current signature campaign i am working in is over and so I would like to apply for your campaign.
Name: hasmukh_rawal
Rank: Member
Profile Link : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hasmukhrawal-1049654
BTC address: 3A7zerVLsJmyNTPmBo8APJJDjJ1oEtYZV7

Looking forward to be a part of the campaign. Will change the signature as soon as you accept me.


Link to your Tweet about Stamps: https://twitter.com/crptotrader007/status/936817297968152577
Twitter followers: 1457
Twitter audit link: https://www.twitteraudit.com/crptotrader007
Bitcoin address: 3A7zerVLsJmyNTPmBo8APJJDjJ1oEtYZV7
Telegram username: @crptotrader




Bitcointalk Username: hasmukh_rawal
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hasmukhrawal-1049654
ICOForum Username: hasmukhrawal
ICOForum Profile Link: https://icoforums.net/user/hasmukhrawal
BTT Rank:  Member : Full member
ETH Wallet Address: 0x89eea1800aeeFaca6Ec81DaE3e94b488aeeD6a5f

Bitcointalk username: crptptrader007
ETH address: 0x89eea1800aeeFaca6Ec81DaE3e94b488aeeD6a5f
hero member
Activity: 2702
Merit: 716
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I agree, juggling with 20ish accounts at a time must be mentally and physically wearying.
Wait what ? I seriously have no idea about the accounts nikjain422,Sahyadri
Might be alt accounts of crptotrader007 or somebody else.

This and hasmukh_rawal are the only 2 accounts I hold.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 2061
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Do you still think I have done anything wrong

I do

Flagging an account doesn't take much time but building it while complying the rules does take a lot of hardwork and time.

I agree, juggling with 20ish accounts at a time must be mentally and physically wearying.

User: nikjain422
Postion to Apply: Jr. Member
Posts Start: 42
Address: 38QMoiXdgWJrgRRWhTBtZgtdrKKPeePem1

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Bitcointalk Name - crptotrader007
Bitcointalk Profile Link-  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crptotrader007-1133747
Rank - Full member
Bitcoin Wallet Address- 38QMoiXdgWJrgRRWhTBtZgtdrKKPeePem1
Wearing Appropriate Signature - yes

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Another connection between pawanjain and hasmukh_rawal

Hello Lutpin
kindly change my bitcoin address to 35udw85sr4h5m1pteVSjaNJiTfQLU5nZfk

thanks

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I am interested in the new signature campaign.
My BTC address : 35udw85sr4h5m1pteVSjaNJiTfQLU5nZfk

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Let's get back to nikjain422 and co; Findings by Timelord2067



And another senior account found...

Link to your Tweet about Stamps: https://twitter.com/Nikhiljain422/status/936824461218553856
Twitter followers: 1379
Twitter audit link: https://www.twitteraudit.com/NikhilJain422
Bitcoin address: 13b5KoPzkHKJzLi4RbGKCGvFUHaMbA6ebW
Telegram username: @nikjain422

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Bitcointalk name: Sahyadri
Bitcoin Address: 13b5KoPzkHKJzLi4RbGKCGvFUHaMbA6ebW
Rank: Full.Member
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sahyadri-911871
Email Registered at Stamps or Stamps wallet address: SxP62120f123af5f9cd608c62c46400b02cdb6d1e20f089fde1d45503c108967a56
Telegram username: @Sahyadri01

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Sahyadri 2.0

Bitcointalk name: Sahyadri
Bitcoin Address: 3N57S4dWVsGvwWNVix34tovU21K5xfjdns
Rank: Full.Member
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sahyadri-911871
Email Registered at Stamps or Stamps wallet address: SxP62120f123af5f9cd608c62c46400b02cdb6d1e20f089fde1d45503c108967a56
Telegram username: @Sahyadri01
Hello Sir, please change my btc address from  13b5KoPzkHKJzLi4RbGKCGvFUHaMbA6ebW
To
3N57S4dWVsGvwWNVix34tovU21K5xfjdns

Thank you.

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BTT name: crptotrader007
BTT url: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crptotrader007-1133747
current posts: 198
Bitcoin address: 3N57S4dWVsGvwWNVix34tovU21K5xfjdns
Avatar and personal message: Done

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hero member
Activity: 2702
Merit: 716
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I decided not to go against the rules and I left the campaign not only with one but both of my accounts.
~snip wholehearted/touching story~

That's a beautiful story bud, if I weren't immune to bullshit I'd be shedding tears right now. It's just that when it comes to signature campaign abuse, one thing I learned it's never one or two accounts, there are always more and more. You people have no shame.
I know you would have encountered dozens of people with some bullshit story to save their accounts which is why you think all the stories are bullshit. I guess you haven't read the story of ' The boy who cried wolf', call it bullshit too ? Anyway, I don't have any reasons to lie bud. It is what it is and I have whatever the truth was.

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This is your third alt account - crptotrader007
It's definitely not my account but yeah I do know this person. He is one of the people I have educated towards crypto.
I have had a meetup with him once too but that was all. Most of our conversations took place on calls and texts.
As I said, I used to charge a very little fee for educating people towards crypto I did charge him as well. But little did I knew he would put my address on the campaign for cutting down on transaction fees.
Most of the times he used to do exactly what I did like enrolling in the same campaign/copying my application posts (editing it later)etc...
I have even warned him so many times and what else can I do apart from that. It's not my mistake.

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You and your alt enrolling in the same signature campaigns minutes apart:
As I said, the guy used to follow me and  used to join campaigns which I did. It's hard to see the actual truth and easy to portray it as something else.
I have literally told the person to stop doing this act but I guess it was too late by then since he had already done this with some campaigns.

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This is my favorite part, you were appointed to be the manager of the YuTü.Co.in bounty campaign. Look who you got accepted, I guess it wasn't much of a choice? smh
Yeah I was a part of the YuTü.Co.in project but then thats a different story. Things got messed up and I left the project(or they elected me out whatever they say).
My part was to promote the campaign in whatever way I can. We held a bounty campaign too where I was the manager but we did not receive a good response.
We barely got a few participants. I had no choice but to invite crptotrader007 to join the campaign since I cannot do it myself. This is the reason why I had selected him for the campaign.

It's hard to believe isn't it but I am telling the truth and I really have no reasons to lie. It might again sound bullshit to you but I can't do anything about that. People do judge others.
I really want to contribute much towards the forum bud since I like it so much around here. I have genuinely tried to obey all the rules so I request you not to blame me without knowing the actual truth.

P.S: Let me know what have you done to create awareness about crypto towards other people. Also, I am amused to know your skills of tracing an account and would be obliged if you teach me this.
May be this way I would be able to contribute much towards the forum.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 2061
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I decided not to go against the rules and I left the campaign not only with one but both of my accounts.
~snip wholehearted/touching story~

That's a beautiful story bud, if I weren't immune to bullshit I'd be shedding tears right now. It's just that when it comes to signature campaign abuse, one thing I learned it's never one or two accounts, there are always more and more. You people have no shame.

This is your third alt account - crptotrader007

ETH connection: 0x89eea1800aeeFaca6Ec81DaE3e94b488aeeD6a5f

Bitcointalk username: crptptrader007
ETH address: 0x89eea1800aeeFaca6Ec81DaE3e94b488aeeD6a5f

Bitcointalk Username: hasmukh_rawal
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hasmukhrawal-1049654
ICOForum Username: hasmukhrawal
ICOForum Profile Link: https://icoforums.net/user/hasmukhrawal
BTT Rank:  Member : Full member
ETH Wallet Address: 0x89eea1800aeeFaca6Ec81DaE3e94b488aeeD6a5f

You and your alt enrolling in the same signature campaigns minutes apart:

CLOSED - Signature campaign for the HODLER Open Source Multi-Asset Wallet

[BOUNTY][PAYING ETHEREUM WEEKLY]-CREBIT.IO-Decentralized P2P Lending Platform

🔴🚀Arianee🔵 Signature Campaign🔵From Member To Legendary[FULL]

[END]⭐ICOForums.net | Signature Campaign | ETH Weekly Payment⭐



This is my favorite part, you were appointed to be the manager of the YuTü.Co.in bounty campaign. Look who you got accepted, I guess it wasn't much of a choice? smh

Quote from: crptotrader007
BitcoinTalk Profile: crptotrader007
Telegram ID      : crptotrader007
Wearing Signature   : yes
Wearing Avatar and Text : yes
ETH Address  : 0xb26ca9F540E729AB114870095a2EA697E2c388F6
Accepted
copper member
Activity: 2940
Merit: 4101
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@ThePharmacist

Thanks

I feel my time on the forum is over. I can't handle it anymore. Is there a way to delete the account from the forum?
Thank you and goodbye.

No dude, there is no way to delete an account. Bye!


hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
I feel my time on the forum is over. I can't handle it anymore. Is there a way to delete the account from the forum?
Thank you and goodbye.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 596
I'm not a spammer or cheater.
I extremely doubt it!
Do you have any proves? You may dig my post history for many years, but you will not find that I pumped some thread with big number of empty posts or alike. Also I didn't sell anything on the forum and just stole coins from possible buyer. I didnt hurt anyone on that way. Your extremely doubts based on nothing.
On the basis of this reference I said what I said. Do you still want to say that it's not cheating?
Unfortunately, campaign managers haven't enrolled you in two campaigns, but the third campaign has accepted greeklogos.

Campaign managers haven't accepted you, that's not the case here, the case is you have attempted to cheat the campaigns by applying with your main and alt. Whereas every campaigns has a common term "Do not apply with multiple accounts".

Yes, you haven't scammed anyone and I'm very thankful to you.
But you have attempted many times to cheat signature campaigns. And lastly you have abused the merit system.

All these are considered prohibited in Bitcointalk.
hero member
Activity: 2702
Merit: 716
Nothing lasts forever
Nobody is perfect bud. I have made mistakes in my past but what matters is how you learn from the mistakes and improve yourself. I had faced time when I had no job and my financial status was so low that I had to walk miles to save a few bucks.Signature campaigns helped me a lot in handling my expenses and I thank the forum for that with all my heart. It was during those times when I committed this mistake. The mistake I did was not to read the campaign rules clearly. Although I did apply for it at the same time, once I read the rules clearly, I decided not to go against the rules and I left the campaign not only with one but both of my accounts. You can also see this in the spreadsheet (post count is same) of that campaign.
Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FKIXSX7mdYykkF29Ls0_vP1y54IraFvExAyNvWciJ2w/edit#gid=0

While the forum rule is that alt accounts are accepted and few of the trusted members here have alt accounts too, I have tried not to spam/shitpost/or any activity which is against the forum rules. I respect the forum for whatever it is. After that incident I have tried not to commit such mistakes again. Do you still think I have done anything wrong or something that is against the forum, if yes please let me know before anybody flags my account. Flagging an account doesn't take much time but building it while complying the rules does take a lot of hardwork and time.

P.S: I have tried to contribute much towards the forum and the crypto community in general. Besides that I have also encouraged people to use crypto and provided them crypto knowledge whatever I had.
When I had no job, I have also educated other people to learn about crypto and this was one of the ways I started earning money through crypto.
legendary
Activity: 3458
Merit: 6948
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Since we're about the Merit system...
I wanted to deserve a post that is in the Russian forum but I have the following message that tells me "You cannot merit that post" I've never seen this message before. I ask because I have never seen anyone asking the question, even if I have searched a little with the search feature.
You'll get that message if you have the section on ignore.  If you un-ignore the section and then go back and try to merit the post, it should work.  It's a pain in the ass that you have to do that, but maybe in 2075 when the new forum software gets launched there'll be a fix. 
copper member
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Since we're about the Merit system...
I wanted to deserve a post that is in the Russian forum but I have the following message that tells me "You cannot merit that post" I've never seen this message before. I ask because I have never seen anyone asking the question, even if I have searched a little with the search feature.
legendary
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I feel sorry for Taki.

Wow, feeling sorry for someone who has abused signature campaigns with multiple high-ranked accounts. Really? I wonder where does all this empathy come from?  Roll Eyes

BTC connection:

hello yahoo , would like to apply for your campaign.
Btctalk name: pawanjain
Rank: sr.member
Current post count:1143
BTC address: 3A7XsWneHzbQ3Tcw2PZgN9Khr7dDAPBJQx
Wear appropriate signature:yes
Wear avatar:yes

I confirm receiving another 0.017BTC for the contest:

3A7XsWneHzbQ3Tcw2PZgN9Khr7dDAPBJQx
here is my btc address. Thanks for the consolation prize.
Wapinter told me to send my btc address to you.

ETH connection:

Applying for Sr.member . Will start posting after the current round ends
Bitcoin Talk Name: pawanjain
Bitcoin Talk Profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pawanjain-900041
Rank: Sr.member
Post Count (including this post): 841
BTC Address: 3A7XsWneHzbQ3Tcw2PZgN9Khr7dDAPBJQx
ETH Address : 0xeF22923235d362Ed5ba31FD2eD3Dc5c84D24EB2a

#JOIN
Bitcointalk username:  hasmukh_rawal
Forum rank: Full Member
Posts count:  232
ETH address: 0xeF22923235d362Ed5ba31FD2eD3Dc5c84D24EB2a

And most importantly joining the same campaign with your alt account:

Accepted

Bitcointalk Username: pawanjain
Rank: Sr.Member
Current post count:  1146
Bitcoin wallet address: 3A7XsWneHzbQ3Tcw2PZgN9Khr7dDAPBJQx
DEPOTWALLET Address: will apply once selected
Wear appropriate signature: Yes
Wear avatar: Yes
Bitcointalk Username: hasmukh_rawal
Rank: full member
Current post count: 459
Bitcoin wallet address : 3A7zerVLsJmyNTPmBo8APJJDjJ1oEtYZV7
DEPOTWALLET Address: later
Wear appropriate signature: Yes
Wear avatar: Yes

The campaign is now full
All participants are required to comply to all rules mention in page 1 of this thread to qualify for weekly payouts.
hero member
Activity: 2702
Merit: 716
Nothing lasts forever
Somebody is in deep trouble here. I can't even imagine how hard it would be for somebody having a Hero rank to loose his profile as well as reputation, the latter is most important.
I am strictly against merit abuse and I don't think people should take it for a joke. The think Taki did is wrong and I know bitcointalk never forgives anybody for breaking any of it's rules regardless of the rank.
This is the reason why every merit I give to others is damn precious to me. To be honest, I still have most of the airdropped merits and I will only merit to posts which are truly deserving though it takes time.
Besides that, I have never merited a post more than a single merit because I think meriting a post is like highlighting a quality post and even a single merit can do that task.
Why to waste multiple merits for a single post ? I feel sorry for Taki because if I were in his place it would be very hard for me.
legendary
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I don't know why are you ignoring the above listed facts but the person you are explaining is evading a ban.
Lol, I didn't ignore anything--I was looking for Taki's replies when I last checked this thread and missed that connection. 

Well, now.  If Taki is ban-evading, all of this pleading on his part is going to be so much more futile than it already is.  Also please don't PM me, Taki.  Even if I had any pull with the members who tagged you, I would not be inclined to help you.  I pretty much said what I think you ought to do, which is to accept the consequences of your actions. 

And why did you give me all those merits for my last post?  That looks like an obvious attempt to buy some help, so don't drag me down with you.  Looks like you might not only be getting permanent red trust but a permaban as well.  We'll see how this all plays out.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 155
The point is:
If you send huge amount of merit to a boring, one-line, non-sense, uncontructive, incomprehensive post, and the receivers can get benefits from those merits to rank up to higher level. It is merit abusements.
In contrast, if you send same amount of merits to Legendary, who can not rank up more, it is less likely merit abusements.
In such cases of huge amount of merits sent to Legendary, it should be called as merit inappropriate usages, not merit abusements.
It means Legendary can send their sMerits around, to constructive, helpful posts as their ways to support lower rank users and stimulate them to contribute more; or they can send their smerits to joking posts, as their ways to relax, something like this.
I do not defend such approach because it is one of the way to destroy valuable smerits, and I don't support it.

Why there are a bit difference?
If you look deeper, you can easily see that merits strongly correlated with rank system, and user ranks, right?


To sum up, there are two indicators to identify merit abusements:
- Amount of merits sent to one posts
- The role of those merits to receivers (can help them rank up or not)

Maybe, it is a little bit un-fair treatments between Legendary and other ranks, maybe I am wrong somehow, but it is my thoughts.  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 415
-Snip-

Thank You for stating, but I think some users here would have already reported it.



Hard to say how I'd feel, since I wouldn't send 40 merits to either a friend or an alt account.  I have a feeling I'd probably know I deserved whatever was coming to me and just move on, which is what you should do.  Lauda and TMAN don't often remove negs as far as I know, so you're going to have a hell of a hard time getting rid of the ones you got.

I don't know why are you ignoring the above listed facts but the person you are explaining is evading a ban.
legendary
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Yeah but not 40 Merit’s. Come on!
And that's the point here.  Forty merits for a single post, especially to a low-ranked shitposter, is excessive in the extreme.  Had Taki given something like 2 merits for that post, nobody would ever have noticed.  Instead, he's suffering the consequences for helping a friend who might not be a friend at all. 

I guess you would feel the same on my place. If I will stay silent my reputation will never be recovered.
Hard to say how I'd feel, since I wouldn't send 40 merits to either a friend or an alt account.  I have a feeling I'd probably know I deserved whatever was coming to me and just move on, which is what you should do.  Lauda and TMAN don't often remove negs as far as I know, so you're going to have a hell of a hard time getting rid of the ones you got. 

As far as staying silent goes, that's your best bet.  If you keep making noise, you're going to end up on ignore lists and have your PMs blocked, and that'll make it near impossible to get anyone to remove their tags.
legendary
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Yes, they are not banned until but would surely be banned later if some mod looks through the proofs here.

I'm not sure how often mods look through topics to ban people, you can make it easier for them by reporting the posts where Taki and greeklogos have both shared this addy: 0xea5944EDdF486BC43Ab9Be4Be34De7486B15E69e

and point out that SvenBomvolen has also used the same address and is banned now.

Hello Yahoo! I would like to work with you again in this signature campaign!
Btctalk name: SvenBomvolen
Rank: Hero Member
Current post count: 1503 (including this one)
BTC Address: 1BqQHgPGK83HSNQDPpbD4sBP6CMkSaYzhG
ETH address(non exchange): 0xea5944EDdF486BC43Ab9Be4Be34De7486B15E69e
Wear appropriate signature: Done!
Thank you in advance!
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 155
Yeah but not 40 Merit’s. Come on!
This is why I wrote this part.
despite of the fact that sending 50 or 100 merits to one-line, joking post most likely merit abusements or at least merit inappropriate usages.
legendary
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Sometimes, people tend to merit for a joke, because it makes them feel funny.....snip the rest.....

Yeah but not 40 Merit’s. Come on!
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