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sr. member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 415
So , how do you know that SvenBomvolen is a banned account?

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=SvenBomvolen (Autobanned)

I did not see Taki and his alt are banned till now for this ban evasion.

Yes, they are not banned until but would surely be banned later if some mod looks through the proofs here.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
[...]
You do not need to worry too much about this, if you are innocent, this is still a light category of accounts connected to Twitter, Facebook, etc., this needs valid proof if this account is one person.

You just focus on the account that is currently happening to you.

So, I report to the mod, the mod who judges that the account is connected or not.

Note:
There are no single profile pages yet, the contents of Twitter or Facebook are the same except for one person, Facebook, Twitter, are private social accounts. So only careless people let Facebook and Twitter accounts be taken by people. And entered into the bitcointalk account profile.


There is a case that covers the profile of Twitter and Facebook, but it's just stealing but the profile of the Bitcointalk account doesn't have a Twitter profile and Facebook.
while all of this contains twiter and facebook.


Post by Remy_5: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/remy5-260566

http://archive.is/x8PmK

Post by axelder: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/axelder-2375110

http://archive.is/eLs1y

Post by OOPSSS: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/oopsss-875150

http://archive.is/hTr3D

Post by jay8291: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jay8291-406281

http://archive.is/ySLi5
How to not worry if my name is mixed with mud here? I guess you would feel the same on my place. If I will stay silent my reputation will never be recovered.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
[...]
You do not need to worry too much about this, if you are innocent, this is still a light category of accounts connected to Twitter, Facebook, etc., this needs valid proof if this account is one person.

You just focus on the account that is currently happening to you.

So, I report to the mod, the mod who judges that the account is connected or not.

Note:
There are no single profile pages yet, the contents of Twitter or Facebook are the same except for one person, Facebook, Twitter, are private social accounts. So only careless people let Facebook and Twitter accounts be taken by people. And entered into the bitcointalk account profile.


There is a case that covers the profile of Twitter and Facebook, but it's just stealing but the profile of the Bitcointalk account doesn't have a Twitter profile and Facebook.
while all of this contains twiter and facebook.


Post by Remy_5: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/remy5-260566

http://archive.is/x8PmK

Post by axelder: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/axelder-2375110

http://archive.is/eLs1y

Post by OOPSSS: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/oopsss-875150

http://archive.is/hTr3D

Post by jay8291: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jay8291-406281

http://archive.is/ySLi5
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
Nice digging out, but I see here is the talk about several cases.

As I already admitted this is one of my accounts which is shutted for more than a year.
I wish to take the last position for full member rank.
Name: Tanic
Rank: Full Member
Post count: 257 plus this one
Wear appropriate sig: Yes
Btc addy: 18HmcqjexaQsVWrPXDw1hTXn25wttTGhzH
Join skype group with btctalk name(sorry its owners rule) https://join.skype.com/AG40BK4sXidX name: tatjanayermakova
Here we can see that all posts made in one campaign. This one was made month after mine. I have two variants of explanation. Or the guy simply copied-pasted my post and didnt correct the skype address, or he done that for purpose to not show his own info.
i want to join
Name         : jay8291
Rank          : Junior Member
Post count  : 44
Wear appropriate sig : yes
Btc addy                 : 13YfFDzx92Yw4C3GDLsFRR5AbusrrYACvn
Join skype group with btctalk name(sorry its owners rule) https://join.skype.com/AG40BK4sXidX  --  DONE

There is some Slight Change in Usersame of skype.

My Skype user is = jay82911.

I see this guy was active a month ago. I will send him PM and try to connect him to the conversation to see what he may say. As you may notice remaining accounts (jay82911, Remy_5, OOPSSS and others) participated in social media campaigns. And if you look at my campaign history you will see I've never participated in any of them. So, obviously here is the point of someone's mistake.

Week 17 (02 November 2018 - 08 November 2018)
Twitter Name: @Dima_zverev85
Link to twitter: https://twitter.com/Dima_zverev85

Week 17 (02 November 2018 - 08 November 2018)
Facebook Name: Dima Zverev
Link to Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zveryuga77


http://archive.is/HTElM

Link post by axelder: http://archive.is/0elGh

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Twitter Profile Link : https://twitter.com/Puncher99
Facebook Profile Link : http://web.facebook.com/rombaldis
[/qoute]

http://archive.is/0elGh

Week Number: 20 (23 November 2018 - 30 November 2018)
Twitter Name: @Puncher99
Link to twitter: https://twitter.com/Puncher99

http://archive.is/jBH1t

WEEK (14.05 - 20.05)
###TWITTER WEEK 1###
Twitter user URL: https://twitter.com/Puncher99

http://archive.is/1zJLk


Sometimes, people tend to merit for a joke, because it makes them feel funny, help them release stresses from trading, or something like that.
Merit abusements or un-abusements on perspectives of each person, despite of the fact that sending 50 or 100 merits to one-line, joking post most likely merit abusements or at least merit inappropriate usages.
I agree with you that theymos wrote that he don't care about that, because with airdropped merits, people can not abuse for too long, and he tend to leave it naturally happen. Of course, for some extremely abused cases like sending 90 or 100 merits to some accounts to boost it to Full Members are very bad abusements.
And, if they abuse like this, they can not go much further. They can go to Senior Members with 240 or 250 merit points abused but they won't be able to move to Hero or Legendary for sure.
There are no "real" rules for giving merit ( I see subsequently it was found to likely be his alt so that is likely abuse). I mean it is not supposed to be given out on political grounds, but of course that is observably not the case. Free choice certainly applies.

There are several instances where large amounts of merit are given out from merit sources for a low value one liner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50280347

I have seen people just more or less ask for some merit and a merit source has just given it to them for fun. 
I am happy to see that at least someone here can say the reality of giving merits. It's up to person how much and whom to give it.


I'm not a spammer or cheater.
I extremely doubt it!

Do you have any proves? You may dig my post history for many years, but you will not find that I pumped some thread with big number of empty posts or alike. Also I didn't sell anything on the forum and just stole coins from possible buyer. I didnt hurt anyone on that way. Your extremely doubts based on nothing.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
I am alive but in hibernation.

I heard about huge merit giveaway in the situation of different kinds of deals between members.

I am interested in knowing what kind of deal is done here.

Though I pointed this abuse earlier on this post above but did not very explicitly mentioned it.

 
By the way I think greeklogos = Taki is evading ban too.



Connected accounts: SvenBomvolen (Banned), greeklogos


So , how do you know that SvenBomvolen is a banned account?
I did not see Taki and his alt are banned till now for this ban evasion.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 155
Sometimes, people tend to merit for a joke, because it makes them feel funny, help them release stresses from trading, or something like that.
Merit abusements or un-abusements on perspectives of each person, despite of the fact that sending 50 or 100 merits to one-line, joking post most likely merit abusements or at least merit inappropriate usages.
I agree with you that theymos wrote that he don't care about that, because with airdropped merits, people can not abuse for too long, and he tend to leave it naturally happen. Of course, for some extremely abused cases like sending 90 or 100 merits to some accounts to boost it to Full Members are very bad abusements.
And, if they abuse like this, they can not go much further. They can go to Senior Members with 240 or 250 merit points abused but they won't be able to move to Hero or Legendary for sure.
There are no "real" rules for giving merit ( I see subsequently it was found to likely be his alt so that is likely abuse). I mean it is not supposed to be given out on political grounds, but of course that is observably not the case. Free choice certainly applies.

There are several instances where large amounts of merit are given out from merit sources for a low value one liner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50280347

I have seen people just more or less ask for some merit and a merit source has just given it to them for fun.  
copper member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
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Looks like a very big ring of alts there. I hope most of the accounts that have proof of connection get red painted at least.
One stupid move of merit abuse is all it took to get this accounts exposed  Grin
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 596
In the case of merit, that was a step to help to my friend who is tired to be nowhere with participations in campaigns with low rank and he wanted to move to another Rank with my help.
Did you help your friend with your own ERC20 wallet address as well? Reference!


I'm not a spammer or cheater.
I extremely doubt it!



Peoples has revealed so many alts of yours so far within a short time, how many do you have exactly?



edit: after my post I've seen bones261 posted the same point almost 3 mins ago while I was writing. Sorry!
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1828

Yeah, I admitted that already. I know the owner of greeklogos profile.

How intimately do you know greeklogos? It seems that you have a rather close relationship since both accounts are using the same keys to accept payments in many situations.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
All the connected accounts should be tagged. Someone should verify the account @Taki and see where he got his merits from. Maybe he got them from his other alternate accounts?

Perhaps admin could reverse this merit but I don't think it will happen.
Terrible suggestion. Admins can't go around reversing merit abuses for 1000 accounts daily.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
I doubt one more thing about the @Tanic account. Even though the account has been inactive for a long time but still functioning, it hasn't been archived.
And what about this one, is this also one person.

1. Tanic
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tatjanayermakova-661185 [tatjanayermakova] [archived]
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/done-23518 [done]
4. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jay8291-406281 [jay8291]
5. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/remy5-260566
[Remy_5]
6. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/axelder-2375110
[axelder]
7. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/oopsss-875150
[OOPSSS]

Connected evidence:

i want to join
Name         : jay8291
Rank          : Junior Member
Post count  : 44
Wear appropriate sig : yes
Btc addy                 : 13YfFDzx92Yw4C3GDLsFRR5AbusrrYACvn
Join skype group with btctalk name(sorry its owners rule) https://join.skype.com/AG40BK4sXidX  --  DONE

There is some Slight Change in Usersame of skype.

My Skype user is = jay82911.

http://archive.is/OTymh

I wish to take the last position for full member rank.
Name: Tanic
Rank: Full Member
Post count: 257 plus this one
Wear appropriate sig: Yes
Btc addy: 18HmcqjexaQsVWrPXDw1hTXn25wttTGhzH
Join skype group with btctalk name(sorry its owners rule) https://join.skype.com/AG40BK4sXidX name: tatjanayermakova


http://archive.is/vOU5r

Week 17 (02 November 2018 - 08 November 2018)
Twitter Name: @Dima_zverev85
Link to twitter: https://twitter.com/Dima_zverev85

Week 17 (02 November 2018 - 08 November 2018)
Facebook Name: Dima Zverev
Link to Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zveryuga77

http://archive.is/0YhCC


http://archive.is/HTElM

Link post by axelder: http://archive.is/0elGh

[qoute]
Twitter Profile Link : https://twitter.com/Puncher99
Facebook Profile Link : http://web.facebook.com/rombaldis
[/qoute]

http://archive.is/0elGh

Week Number: 20 (23 November 2018 - 30 November 2018)
Twitter Name: @Puncher99
Link to twitter: https://twitter.com/Puncher99

http://archive.is/jBH1t

WEEK (14.05 - 20.05)
###TWITTER WEEK 1###
Twitter user URL: https://twitter.com/Puncher99

http://archive.is/1zJLk
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1375
Slava Ukraini!
I almost fell in depression from all of that. I just cannot to loose this profile. It's everything to me in the connection with crypto currencies.
I have like 10 merits left and I promise to not repeat such things ever again, in both case as helping to someone I know or being paid for such services. Could my reputation to be recovered, please?
You had to think before doing that. Now it's too late to apologize. Every action has a consequence, you have to accept that.
Anyway, even with red trust you still can continue using this forum, you just lost chance to be accepted into signature campaigns.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 2061
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You and your friend greeklogos seems to have been joining the same signature campaigns within minutes/seconds apart  Roll Eyes :

MOONX Sig & Avatar campaign(Closed)

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I found one more account connected to greeklogos and already banned one SvenBomvolen:

Username: SvenBomvolen

BTC Address: 1BqQHgPGK83HSNQDPpbD4sBP6CMkSaYzhG

Btctalk name: TianaStam
Rank: Member
Current post count: 127
BTC address: 1BqQHgPGK83HSNQDPpbD4sBP6CMkSaYzhG

edit; does anyone else have trouble with bpip? can't search for profiles...
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
OK, what bad I've done?
Well, you helped a serial shitposter to rank up by giving an outrageous amount of merits to him.  I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you obviously aren't a case of someone not realizing the significance of the merit system.

You do realize why the merit system was implemented, right?  It was to prevent shitposters from ranking up by making it really hard for them to earn merits.  By giving this dork a whopping 40 merits for a post that didn't even deserve a single one, you're enabling someone to continue to shitpost for money--and it's not appreciated.  Glad you at least admitted your motivation for doing this.
I just have nothing to hide and wish to clean up myself with all of this story. I do not care of merits at all, cause of I'm on forum for long time and I am satisfied with my position. I simply wanted to help and look where it bringed me.
I almost fell in depression from all of that. I just cannot to loose this profile. It's everything to me in the connection with crypto currencies.
I have like 10 merits left and I promise to not repeat such things ever again, in both case as helping to someone I know or being paid for such services. Could my reputation to be recovered, please?

In this case of the Merit sending its an abuse on the merit system and also with your statement here it shows that you are connected with this Account !
Yeah, I admitted that already. I know the owner of greeklogos profile.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 3290
In the case of merit, that was a step to help to my friend who is tired to be nowhere with participations in campaigns with low rank and he wanted to move to another Rank with my help.

In this case of the Merit sending its an abuse on the merit system and also with your statement here it shows that you are connected with this Account !
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 7005
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OK, what bad I've done?
Well, you helped a serial shitposter to rank up by giving an outrageous amount of merits to him.  I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you obviously aren't a case of someone not realizing the significance of the merit system.

You do realize why the merit system was implemented, right?  It was to prevent shitposters from ranking up by making it really hard for them to earn merits.  By giving this dork a whopping 40 merits for a post that didn't even deserve a single one, you're enabling someone to continue to shitpost for money--and it's not appreciated.  Glad you at least admitted your motivation for doing this.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
OK, what bad I've done? I never participated with all of those accounts in the same campaign. As you can see half of them old and not used for more than a year. I never cheated anyone sinse I'm on the forum.
In the case of merit, that was a step to help to my friend who is tired to be nowhere with participations in campaigns with low rank and he wanted to move to another Rank with my help. I was reading that giving of merit is up to person who gives, so what is bad with that? Sarcasm posts are getting merits, shit posts are getting merits, who knows what is going on on local boards with that.
I'm not a spammer or cheater. There is no case for ban or for such high negative trust.
sr. member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 415
By the way I think greeklogos = Taki is evading ban too.



Connected accounts: SvenBomvolen (Banned), greeklogos

Connected address: 1BqQHgPGK83HSNQDPpbD4sBP6CMkSaYzhG

Hello! I would like to join your campaign.
Username: SvenBomvolen
Rank: Hero Member
Starting post count: 1197
Profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/svenbomvolen-662493
BTC address: 1BqQHgPGK83HSNQDPpbD4sBP6CMkSaYzhG
Thank you!


BTT name: greeklogos
BTT url: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/greeklogos-800530
current posts: 566
Bitcoin address: 1BqQHgPGK83HSNQDPpbD4sBP6CMkSaYzhG
Avatar and personal message: I will update it after your prove that I'm accepted.
Thank you!
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
@greeklogos, @Taki, not only have 2 accounts.
Also he has 3 accounts that he manages.
One more account connected @Tanic.

1. greeklogos
2. Taki
3. Tanic

Bitcointalk Name: Taki
Bitcoin Address: 18HmcqjexaQsVWrPXDw1hTXn25wttTGhzH

( archive )

Link post by Tanic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16329788

Update:
Waves address: 3P4B783SzierQ7grvhr9URh8VEScHxHE6gi


( archive )

Link post by greeklogos: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22122536

[qoute]
WAVES Address: 3P4B783SzierQ7grvhr9URh8VEScHxHE6gi


Tanic is not active for many months, so it cannot be counted. Actually I suggested long ago that the forum should to delete such long time inactive accounts. Besides Satoshi's normally.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
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See link; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50363129

I'm not sure what to think about this; is this abuse, or do the rules of free market and free choice apply here? The post doesn't look exceptionally good to me, especially since "better" (imo) answers had already been given.. (although perhaps Taki sees this differently..?)

Is this sort of behavior generally frowned upon, or is this perfectly fine?

Just wondering.

There are no "real" rules for giving merit ( I see subsequently it was found to likely be his alt so that is likely abuse). I mean it is not supposed to be given out on political grounds, but of course that is observably not the case. Free choice certainly applies.

There are several instances where large amounts of merit are given out from merit sources for a low value one liner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50280347

I have seen people just more or less ask for some merit and a merit source has just given it to them for fun.  

So, no to answer your question I don't think it is possible to get merit removed for abuse or get anything much done about  it unless it can be proven to be their alt .  Then again i have seen merit removed from excellent posts.  I guess it is not usually worth worrying about it if you see excessive merit passed around for posts that look to have very  low value.

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