The difference between 900m3 and 9000m3 is 900%, and given that the topic is heat/cooling every meter matters.
Yes, I understand, however, even if it was 9000m³, I think the math would still hold correct for comparisons.
Selling wood in square meters is just plain dumb lol, especially firewood which doesn't have the same thickness most of the time, if it was some MDF sheets that would make sense, where I live, unless the thickness is identified, wood is always sold in cubic units, but ya, the world is crazy.
I need to correct myself. I didn't mean m². I men't simply 'm'. What I mean is that they measure 1m³ of firewood but they don't say m³. They simpy mention 'm'.
For instance:
I ask him: For hoow much you sell your firewood???
He replies: 50€ per meter!
But they measure 1m³ despite the fact that, while speaking, then only mention "per meter". They don't mention "per cubic meter".
You need to calculate how many KW of heat you need, this isn't something we can help you with, we can only speculate, we don't know what the outside temperature is and what type of insulation your room/greenhouse it makes a world difference.
Ok, I see that we need more specific context, so I'll give it here and is a way for me to be able to come back here in the future and see exactly the asusmptions I did to get to the numbers.
So, I'm considering a greenhouse. Period. No heating homes nor any other enclosed spaces. Let's talk only about greenhouses. Just to try to narrow the discussion. And this greenhouse is one of those with hard walls, not made of plastic or whatever it is. I'm also not sure what is the exact material of the greenhouse.
Also, I'm going to consider the actual temperatures of my local/national weather report site for this day - 06-03-2024, around 11:00 am.
Let's consider 3ºC of outside temperature, and target temperature of 17ºC inside the greenhouse. So, delta of 14ºC, for the worst case scenario. And even if we have a variation of 4ºC or 5ºC around the day, let's ignore it! Let's pretend the plants or whatever we are growing inside doesn't car for such variation, beacuse in nature, all plants in the world will suffer temperature variations of probably more than this!
Another note is that yes, I'm aware that the miner wants to run constantly without power outtages, that's why I mentioned I was thinking to build the valve system to redirect the air flow in/out of the greenhouse based on temperature and humidity inside the greenhouse. Turning the miner off is out of the question, for the sake of math. heheh.
About the amount of time to heat up the space, yeah, I want to check that too, just to learn if I should include it in the report or not. I mean, if there is a gigantic difference, then maybe I should change something to make that difference smaller, otherwise, maybe I don't even need to mention it in the report!
Regarding the amount of time I need to recover from a power outtage, I don't ahve any specific requirement. Let's just assume that if we can recover the temp in less than a day, we will be fine.
Yes that's right, it's the correct formula, obviously, this assumes no heat loss and even distribution of heat, which both don't happen in a real world sncerio, there will always be heat escaping the room depending on the insulation and the outside temp, and even heat distribution in such volume is difficult, so if the room temp was even at 20c across the whole room, and assuming no heat loss, it would be maybe only 1 degree hotter on one side of the room, and 10 degrees hotter on another spot, but ya, the average would be 5c.
For now let's assume no heat losses nor even heat distribution is needed.
Water as you already know has a higher heat capacity than air it's 4186 J/kg°C vs 1005J/kg°C, but I think you are reading the labels wrong, I don't know what a water boiler labels mean, we don't use them hear, but I suppose whatever the rating is -- it's for the output capacity of the boiler, i.e it gives you 500KW worth of heat, you use it to heat air or water is a different subject, so you shouldn't be looking at things this way, also why the hell would you use 9000m3 of water in your calcs, that's a lot of water to be boiling. Cheesy, you want to stick to 900m3 of air since that is what you need to heat.
I was just trying to stick with the same numbers. What is valid for 9000m³ woul also be valid for 900m³ in terms of comparison, I think. But ok, let's go for the 900m³.
About my way of thinking regarding the biofuel boiler / burner, I'm not sure I understand how I can compare the system rated power with the one of a miner!
As I mentioned somehwere in this thread, a S21 rated power output is 3500W, however I think this is rather 3500Wh. Meaning it uses 3500W of power every hour. Regardless, I will consider all the input power will be converted into heat, so the output power for heating purposes, will be the same 3500Wh.
For the boiler / burner system, with the data me and the guy exchanged was for 9000m³ of greenhouse volume, so we did the math for that volume and he got to the conclusion that a 400kW or 500kW system would be needed. But now we are considering 900m³ of volume, so the boiler / burner system will be much "smaller" both in wattage and in cost. That's why I was sticking to the 9000m³ of volume, because he told me te price of these systems. For 900m³, I have no idea! And in their site, they don't show prices for any of their products!
... also why the hell would you use 9000m3 of water in your calcs, that's a lot of water to be boiling. Cheesy, you want to stick to 900m3 of air since that is what you need to heat.
Yes, I see that that is a mistake of me. However, if I understand, these boilers / burners, consume biofuel to heat up water. And in turn, this water will travel pipes along the greenhouse to heat up air. I hope I'm correct here! Or maybe not, I'm not sure here! Maybe it heats air that is blown into the greenhouse by ducts too! I have to make sure of this!
also why the hell would you use 9000m3 of water in your calcs, that's a lot of water to be boiling. Cheesy, you want to stick to 900m3 of air since that is what you need to heat.