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Topic: [EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting - page 2. (Read 1251 times)

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Holy fucking shit. I don't ever want to do that again. What an absolute nightmare, I tell you.

Yeah, 100 posts was way too ambitious. But this data will be great for analysis!

I mean 60 posts in one hour isn't bad! That's enough to get you 0.0072 BTC if you had 3 Sr. Member accounts.

( 0.0072 BTC from the YoBit campaign. )
copper member
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Spear the bees
Holy fucking shit. I don't ever want to do that again. What an absolute nightmare, I tell you.

Yeah, 100 posts was way too ambitious. But this data will be great for analysis!
legendary
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And about op, the experiment sounds nice, but i don't think 100 posts/hour is possible. That's almost 2 post/min. But good luck.

Yeah, he has managed to get 44 posts in 46 minutes as we speak..
They are not essay material but are much better than 90% of the shit out there
I even feel tempted to throw some merit :PPP

But 100/h, that ain't gonna happen unless he goes fully shitpost

legendary
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Yobit just need a decent manager who will educate the fools about quality over quantity

They need a decent Exchange, with decent support, with a decent account on the forum, not the one they have with 130 negative trusts. The signature manager is the las decent shit they have to worry about, LMAO.

And about op, the experiment sounds nice, but i don't think 100 posts/hour is possible. That's almost 2 post/min. But good luck.
legendary
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Talking about shitposting, how is this for a world record: 21 posts in 25 minutes?  Cry Plot twist, dude doesn't even have the required rank to join their campaign (he a member).

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/x2team2017-678034

The type of posts he has made (btw, reported for burst posting):

spread as much as possible ..
yobit has +1450 coins
with +7500 subpairs...  

Here is an avatar for every YoShit supporter out there, it is mandatory, you have to wear it.



image source: yoshit official twitter account
hero member
Activity: 1484
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The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.
Please share some of the posting magic pills with me. I struggle to make 8 on topic posts per day to reach my daily quota. TIA!  Tongue
3 rounds ended for my sig. campaign and I never reached 55 post limits in a single week.


Binance, when windshield wiper bitcoinsv ?
Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?
And, my favorite:
man making dont panic,  calm down, do what you do
Sorry, not that one. This one:
İs not the right time for ico, you must wait for the bear of the month
I mentioned this Yoshit Spammer in this thread, and when I was reading his posts, believe or not I was impressed enough with his posts, A VERY HIGH QUALITY SHITPOSTER.

Then I took a break for some time to calculate how much he will be earning from Yoshit Campaign without any effort. Need to scan the forum for this type of posters and need to make a list for future reference.
legendary
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[tinfoil]Perhaps the Yobit campaign is a false flag operation designed to smoke out dormant shitposters[/tinfoil]

YoBit signature campaign is a sign that the bull market is coming:

Although i'm very new on the forum but based on what i have learnt on the forum, exchange signature campaign can bring about some possibility of a growing bubble in crypto market. Haven seen this signature campaign(yobit.net) running on the forum with higher rank member be involved, draw my attention to the upcoming bubbles, if this can bring about it. If this can bring about a bubble then why can't we all join the campaign to make things work as fast as possible?.
There has been some argument between participants and none-participant about the legitimacy of this yobit.net signature campaign. Just want to hear your opinion on this.

If this's not the right place, kindly re-direct thanks.
We should all join there "to make things work as fast as possible" and bring BTC to a new ATH very soon. Exchange signatures are always a sign of growing bubbles, especially if high ranked-members are involved in the campaign (they can't be wrong - or is it just because of the payment?).
legendary
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Also, look at the bright side, the thought of how many alts/plagiarists/ban-evaders (that have been idle for a while) will be caught/tagged and banned warms my heart.

Is there a way to track what signature banned users had before getting banned?
I know the sig is removed once you get banned but I remember somebody had some sort of way to figure this out when the stake campaign started to attract unwanted attention and was number one there

LE:

YoBit signature campaign is a sign that the bull market is coming:

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We should all join there "to make things work as fast as possible" and bring BTC to a new ATH very soon. Exchange signatures are always a sign of growing bubbles, especially if high ranked-members are involved in the campaign (they can't be wrong - or is it just because of the payment?).

Yeah, imagine MtGox or Bitcoinica starting a campaign.....Mooon!!!!!!



legendary
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Also, look at the bright side, the thought of how many alts/plagiarists/ban-evaders (that have been idle for a while) will be caught/tagged and banned warms my heart.

[tinfoil]Perhaps the Yobit campaign is a false flag operation designed to smoke out dormant shitposters[/tinfoil]
legendary
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And it's a shame that all of them are Sr. Member or above, they are posting like Newbie shitposters.

Relax guys, there's no such thing as high-ranking accounts shitposting like newbies...according to Saint-loup.  Cheesy

And the campaign is for senor, hero and legendary members only so I don't understand how the forum could be "spammed" by this kind of profiles...

Also, look at the bright side, the thought of how many alts/plagiarists/ban-evaders (that have been idle for a while) will be caught/tagged and banned warms my heart.
legendary
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Sorry, not that one. This one:
İs not the right time for ico, you must wait for the bear of the month
Cheesy

And it's a shame that all of them are Sr. Member or above, they are posting like Newbie shitposters. Only because they were here before Merit was introduced.  Sad

Maybe we should consider a deMerit for wearing a (paid) signature (at least 1 deMerit per month). For wearing a paid signature everyone has to register his account as "enrolled in a paid signature" where he has to tick a checkbox in his profile settings and that will result in 1 deMerit per month. If someone is caught wearing a paid signature and hasn't enabled his account as "enrolled in a paid signature" => red trust

It will take a time to rank their accounts down but I think it's the only possibility to reduce such shitshows at least a little bit.
legendary
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The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.
Of course it is possible, you can probably skip word or two and post shortest post in history of bitcointalk. May the mtmitat be with you:

Binance, when windshield wiper bitcoinsv ?
Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?
And, my favorite:
man making dont panic,  calm down, do what you do
Sorry, not that one. This one:
İs not the right time for ico, you must wait for the bear of the month
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This is not going to do very much. A manager does not need to be "not banned" to do their job as a manager, and they could potentially do their job in its entirety off the forum without even disclosing their account.
Fair point. How about blacklisting then, as explained in the post I linked to above. If YoBit don't clean up their act, then YoBit as an entity will be banned from advertising on the forum. I still think we should be handing out escalating bans to the individual spammers though.


I have long advocated for reports regarding damage done via individual company's signature campaigns in the form of number of bans issued, and posts deleted (and associated reasons).
I think this would work great with the blacklisting idea. If your campaign has x number of posts deleted for spam, or x number of users banned for spamming, in y number of days/weeks, you get a warning. Repeat offending companies or entities are blacklisted.
In order for a company to be blacklisted from advertising they would need to enroll in a signature subscription (with confirmation by the advertiser) service by the forum so to prevent someone from enrolling a bunch of accounts to wear a company's signature to create a bunch of shit posts and get the company banned from advertising.

The threshold for blacklisting from advertising on the forum would be very high. It currently takes a lot for a person to get banned, even temporally for having insubstantial posts with a paid signature, and bans are generally only handed out after a sustained negative behavior and after a number of warnings (often in the form of deleted posts) are given out. The time required to have someone blacklisted would likely be a minimum of multiple months so that a company can evaluate performance and take corrective action.

I do agree we should continue to punish spammers in the form of posting bans, and perhaps signature bans (and perhaps incrementally diminished signature abilities).


This is not going to do very much. A manager does not need to be "not banned" to do their job as a manager, and they could potentially do their job in its entirety off the forum without even disclosing their account.
Which is exactly what's happening here: something that I've feared. High-count low-effort campaigns that induce spam, hosted off-forum.
[/quote]I think this is one result of the long-term systemic abuse abuse of the trust system via the leaving of negative ratings for reasons other than someone reasonably being a scammer. There are a number of by all accounts, legitimately running businesses that have negative trust on bitcointalk, and do not have much to lose by running a signature campaign that spams this place up. Although in this case the rating may be justified.
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Spear the bees
The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.
I highly doubt that it's doable without some the pre-existing text to play with, notice that you need to a post every 36 seconds and that is more than enough to actually just post but the hard  part will be finding WHERE to post.
I'm going to time the writing of an example. The goal is improbable but that's why I set it there. An easy goal means a lack of pressure. Smiley


(25 second timer so that I can ensure enough time to find a thread, quickly read the title and last post and formulate a response in my mind)

I'll be using this as an example thread: Buy every dip!

Reply is below:
It's obvious that the idea of buying every dip makes sense. But the reality is that we don't exactly know when that "dip" hits. I think it's inane to tell people to "buy low sell high" when they can't predict the markets.
(came right off the top of my head by recalling all the general nonsense that's written)

So okay, maybe one post per minute for three-liners (spammers typically choose this) using newlines for padding will work better. Regardless, it'll make for an interesting experiment.
legendary
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The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.


I highly doubt that it's doable without some the pre-existing text to play with, notice that you need to a post every 36 seconds and that is more than enough to actually just post but the hard  part will be finding WHERE to post.

you need to stay on-topic somehow ( you can't afford to risk your posts being reported for being off-topic ), so even with copy-paste you can't paste something like "thank you sir for the nice project, i am sure this ICO will be successful" in say a thread in Reputation.


Therefore to be able to post at that rate you will need the following.

1- A list of all the threads you going to use.

2- A good portion of what you plan to type ready to be copied and pasted.



on a human-only level i highly doubt you can achieve that rate without at least 1 of the two points, however , going on semi-automated / fully/automated method, you can certainly achieve much "better  Roll Eyes" results.


however, Shitposting does not have to be this efficient, i think i personally can do up to 20 "acceptable" posts per hour , so if if i have 5 hours a day i can do 100 posts a day ( i won't do that  Roll Eyes ).
hero member
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The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.
This is inspired by the new YoBit campaign which will bring forth a wave of spam. Only Moses can save us now. Roll Eyes
Even when you can do it, I don't think you should do it. Instead, if you can, you should scrap data to count how many posts published by Yobit supporters are one line shit posts, and how many percentage one line shit posts per total posts published by Yobit supporters.
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Spear the bees
I do not think 100 post in a hour is also too much  for a shitposter too.You need a bot for this
Assuming I average 110 wpm == 550 cpm, I can probably make at least one post per minute.


Just did a few to practice. Should be good enough to hit at least 60 posts/hour.

At current YoBit rates, assuming Sr. Member accounts only, that would be 0.0072 BTC == $38/hr. That grows to $64/hr with Legendary accounts.

If we assume that the account farmers only have Sr. Member accounts (they require 3 per hour) then you would need 24 for an 8-hour work day. (give or take an hour)




Good luck with the testing, it'll be fairly rapid to fake the "constructive" replies - just expand, expand, expand.. Especially useful threads for that are the "who is your bitcoin heir" type threads
Ah, yes. The ever-so-frequent post-padding that spammers decide to insert into their posts to obfuscate the very fact that they are just rambling with the same nonsensical bullshit that is ingrained into their mind after countless hours of frequenting the forum and posting the same vapid and generic replies to posts which that quote thereof and will do the same routine of agree and expand or rephrase in a different way, without adding any extra content.

See how easy it is? That took less than a minute to type, I believe.
legendary
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I hate that Bitcoin Discussion has become a spam section, because it should be where all the good threads get created, but whatever.  Theymos is OK with it, so I won't fret.
Completely agree with you here, but don't understand the logic behind it at all. Bitcoin Discussion should be the main discussion board on the forum, which, after all, is called bitcointalk. As it stands, it's barely usable. Many smart and experienced users don't even visit it, and the few that do are rapidly drowned out by endless amounts of spam. I've reported thousands of posts on it in the last few months, but every day it just fills up again more rapidly than can be dealt with. Given that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, I'm going to have to take a break from reporting for the sake of my own sanity.

I don't think it's beyond redemption, however, by any means. It could be cleaned up quite rapidly, but we need some top down changes. Several mods dedicated just for that board (most boards could benefit from this). Higher merit requirements to display signatures, applicable to all ranks. More liberal bans for repeat spammers. Those three changes would remove the incentive to spam, get rid of the users who continue anyway, and prevent necrobumping and useless threads before they gain traction and turn in to yet another spam megathread.
legendary
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You needn't reserve a post for this.. You seem to do this a couple times: make an OP and make a post reply right after (so essentially a double post).

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.


Ok fair enough, thanks for the correction - I had never realised that.. I will refresh myself on forum rules..

Good luck with the testing, it'll be fairly rapid to fake the "constructive" replies - just expand, expand, expand.. Especially useful threads for that are the "who is your bitcoin heir" type threads (yes, that's in Bitcoin discussion currently, I quickly looked for an example...). Isn't that more off-topic semi-random discussion? Could there be an off-topic-but-related section somehow?
legendary
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I think the only board that is in danger was in the Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion board
Those two sections are beyond redemption anyway and can't be shat upon any more than they are already.  The Yobit participants could still make constructive posts and hit the maximum amount allowed per day by the campaign, but I'm not optimistic about that actually happening.  If the shitposts stay mainly in those two sections, the damage will be somewhat contained at least.  I hate that Bitcoin Discussion has become a spam section, because it should be where all the good threads get created, but whatever.  Theymos is OK with it, so I won't fret.

I also expect to see a lot plagiarized post with lot of low quality post.
Me too, and I'd imagine it's going to be damn hard to catch all of them.  Yobit really should tighten up their campaign standards.

Good luck with your extra-super-scientific experimenty thing, actmyname.  Let me know which journal you're going to publish the results in.
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