[EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting - page 3.

suchmoon

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Quote from: marcotheminer on April 20, 2019, 03:24:35 AM

You needn't reserve a post for this.. You seem to do this a couple times: make an OP and make a post reply right after (so essentially a double post).

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

r1s2g3

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I am alive but in hibernation.

I do not think 100 post in a hour is also too much for a shitposter too.You need a bot for this
I am wondering if some new service like "Yobit post making" services open up.

I also expect to see a lot plagiarized post with lot of low quality post.

actmyname

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 01:22:36 AM

As a side note, someone could potentially create many useful posts in a short period of time (although maybe not 100 posts in an hour), if you have sufficient knowledge of bitcoin related subjects.

The metric is really to form a kind of idea on how many posts I can make under the context of "barely-passable" or "sufficient" post quality. If you take a look at a large portion of signatured posts, you'll understand what I'm talking about.

Quote from: marcotheminer on April 20, 2019, 03:24:35 AM

You needn't reserve a post for this.. You seem to do this a couple times: make an OP and make a post reply right after (so essentially a double post). I don't care - but note some people might thing you're doing only it for the signature payout too.

I don't think I've done it too often recently: maybe twice outside of this thread. Doesn't really matter to me what others may perceive as "posting for money". Those that know me should know (to some degree) that I don't just mindlessly post to hit the cap every week. I also trust in DS's ability to not tick a single line "Reserved" post as qualified.

Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 03:29:27 AM

This is not going to do very much. A manager does not need to be "not banned" to do their job as a manager, and they could potentially do their job in its entirety off the forum without even disclosing their account.

Which is exactly what's happening here: something that I've feared. High-count low-effort campaigns that induce spam, hosted off-forum.

o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 03:29:27 AM

This is not going to do very much. A manager does not need to be "not banned" to do their job as a manager, and they could potentially do their job in its entirety off the forum without even disclosing their account.

Fair point. How about blacklisting then, as explained in the post I linked to above. If YoBit don't clean up their act, then YoBit as an entity will be banned from advertising on the forum. I still think we should be handing out escalating bans to the individual spammers though.

Quote from: Quickseller on April 20, 2019, 03:29:27 AM

I have long advocated for reports regarding damage done via individual company's signature campaigns in the form of number of bans issued, and posts deleted (and associated reasons).

I think this would work great with the blacklisting idea. If your campaign has x number of posts deleted for spam, or x number of users banned for spamming, in y number of days/weeks, you get a warning. Repeat offending companies or entities are blacklisted.

Quickseller

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 20, 2019, 03:15:29 AM

We need bans. Bans for [...] managers who enable the spammers.

This is not going to do very much. A manager does not need to be "not banned" to do their job as a manager, and they could potentially do their job in its entirety off the forum without even disclosing their account.

I have long advocated for reports regarding damage done via individual company's signature campaigns in the form of number of bans issued, and posts deleted (and associated reasons).

theymos had previously broached the idea of people subscribing to a signature, but perhaps the "author" of a subscription could (optionally) need to authorize subscriptions so to prevent spammers subscribing to signatures with the intent of making a company/manager look bad

marcotheminer

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Quote from: actmyname on April 20, 2019, 12:56:47 AM

Reserved. (future post archives will be published here for later use)

You needn't reserve a post for this.. You seem to do this a couple times: make an OP and make a post reply right after (so essentially a double post). I don't care - but note some people might thing you're doing only it for the signature payout too.

Otherwise, I agree, this Yobit campaign is going to be a flood of "YOBIT" ads. It's normal though - they are paying top rates and to senior+.

o_e_l_e_o

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As mikeywith cleverly picked up here, some of these spammers seem to write a bunch of posts in advance, save them as drafts, and then just release them all during the next "quota period", which is why they can spam so many posts so quickly. I would add the Stake campaign to the YoBit campaign as being guilty of this behavior.

Quote from: TMAN on April 20, 2019, 02:14:18 AM

Yobit just need a decent manager who will educate the fools about quality over quantity

We need bans. Bans for spammers and bans for managers who enable the spammers. There are some users I've reported 50+ times in the space of a day or two, all their posts are trashed, and then they are back the very next day, posting twice as much to make up for the all their deleted posts. There is a stickied thread in Services saying these users will receive bans for this behavior - this kind of spamming will continue indefinitely until this is enforced.

LoyceV

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Challenge accepted: let's see how many I can report in that hour Tongue

I'm not sure if I'm online though at that time tomorrow.

Quote from: TMAN on April 20, 2019, 02:14:18 AM

Yobit just need a decent manager who will educate the fools about quality over quantity

They choose a different path: they have red trust already (YoBit / Trust: -16: -4 / +0) and have nothing to lose. Yesterday, several topics were created by Newbies including several other Newbies bumping them, so it looks like they hired a spammer instead of a campaign manager.
And with their red trust, managing their campaign won't look good on the campaign manager.

TMAN

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Yobit just need a decent manager who will educate the fools about quality over quantity

hacker1001101001

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Quote from: actmyname on April 20, 2019, 12:47:21 AM

The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.

I think this a very high goal. It's just like postsing new post every 0.6 ~~seconds~~ minutes.Would you really manage to do so ? ( One liner posts are possible but I think a campaign acceptable post should atleast be 2 liner )

BTW, did you mean 100 a day or hour?

Quickseller

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I hope you got permission to do this ahead of time.

It isn’t any secret that it is possible to make large amounts of posts in short periods of time. The merit system has somewhat curtailed this by preventing shitposters (among others) from ranking up. If someone can’t rank up, the ad they display won’t be as attractive to advertisers.

As a side note, someone could potentially create many useful posts in a short period of time (although maybe not 100 posts in an hour), if you have sufficient knowledge of bitcoin related subjects.

actmyname

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Quote from: yazher on April 20, 2019, 12:58:35 AM

I think the only board that is in danger was in the Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion board the rest are just fine

Spam haven boards include (but are not limited to):
Bitcoin Discussion
Mining speculation (not as much)
Technical Support (not as much)
Economics
-> Speculation
Marketplace
-> Gambling
->-> Gambling discussion
->-> Investor-based games ("ponzi alert" spam)
-> Lending ("you need collateral" spam)
-> Service Announcements
->-> Micro Earnings
-> Service Discussion
Trading Discussion
Meta (certain threads)
Politics & Society (certain threads)
Beginners & Help
Off-topic
Any altcoin board

yazher

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I think the only board that is in danger was in the Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion board the rest are just fine, that's when the Yobit signature campaign not yet come. as of today spammers are free to post wherever they like as long as they make it looks like a constructive post, cause there is no rules on Yobit Signature campaign that you cannot post on certain board, rather you are free to post on all Sections.
starting today the forum will be filled with the signature campaign abusers so,

actmyname

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Analysis

59 posts in 60 minutes. Not bad!

If the YoBit campaign continues without any qualms regarding member post quality (mine were 'decent', not good) then these would be the rates for 3 members of the ranks:

_{_{Bitcoin Price: $5300}}

Sr. Member:  0.00708 BTC == $37.53 / hr
Hero Member: 0.00944 BTC == $50.03 / hr
Legendary:   0.01180 BTC == $62.54 / hr

Certainly lucrative, especially if your cost of living is low. With more accounts, you can extend your work day.

Let's consider a limit of 3, though.
Using only 7 hours of their time every week:

Sr. Members make:  $262/w | $1050/mo | $13696/yr
Hero Members make: $350/w | $1400/mo | $18261/yr
Legendaries make:  $437/w | $1751/mo | $22827/yr

I've seen account rings span far more than "just" 3 accounts. This is why people farm accounts.

Zero effort. Very little time. Huge profits.

actmyname

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I type fairly quickly. I maneuver around the forum quickly.

If I were a shitposter, how much could I post? Probably a lot. I'm doing an experiment to test this very theory.

Supposing I had multiple accounts and switching between them was as seamless as going to another board (since I won't be using alts) I could garner a large amount of signature earnings from campaigns that didn't care (too much).

The reason that shitposting is so lucrative is because of the profit. And to really get a sense of what these account farmers are doing, I wanted to see exactly how profitable it could be. For science!

I hate spamming and therefore I will delete my posts as soon as I can (after archiving the posts for further research) but at 12 AM UTC^*, 4/21/2019, I will start my one hour of "quickposts". (I'll try to "look" constructive like many spammers do by picking random bits of knowledge here and there, but in a way where I can pump out as many posts as possible.)

The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.

This is inspired by the new YoBit campaign which will bring forth a wave of spam. Only Moses can save us now. Roll Eyes

*estimated time

EDIT: This is obviously very empirical and only applies to a shitposter that possesses the same traits as I do.

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