Topic: Extended Ranks Proposal (Read 786 times)

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I was just hoping to enter the largest holders Hall of Fame, but who knows, they may recognize me in the years to come

If Theymos wants to add another rank, I think it will be cool, but it should be added one and not three at a time. The activity should be that people that joined the forum 9 - 10yrs ago will automatically qualify and then merit should be 10,000 merits.

Reason
This will be an honour to users that have been here for long and still working hard till date.

For your suggestions about Jr staff and Jr moderator, I do not think it is necessary, maybe unless you want to place them on a different salary scale.

I'm under the impression that you don't want to introduce new ranks as too many scripts and statistic tables depend on the current number of ranks

I am with you on this one. Of what use will it be adding more ranks to the forum and how does it applies to helping cryptocurrency in the real word? It virtually means nothing and even if it were to be considered, it doesn't mean it would stop there (addition of new ranks) and one of two occasions might happen along the way.

* Either it would become boring along the way of accumulation of the necessity or
* You find out it made no difference from the legendary we now have.

The names attached doesn't mean much but the contributions coming off users beating it do. There have been newbies in the past that have been said to know so much to be a newbie or beginner where as, there are ranked up users that doesn't know much for the ranks there bare.

Should we view these ranks like the institutions of learning, we might clip to the idea that, we don't need any other ranks to make a user feel special or separate from the others. Professionalism through high schools just defines what you've been exposed to and is expected to have known. Some will represent it in every way, others won't and the best way to see that isn't the names you carry about as a professional but what is produced through you, the problems you solve in the field. Your content as a user defines your ranks the more better than your the name tag.

There is an argument for adding additional ranks below Legendary and not grandfathering people into the resulting higher ranks.

1000 merit isn’t easy to achieve and not many will get there. 400-500 is much easier and more will earn this much merit. There could be some criteria to adjust the initial airdropped merit downwards and some working towards getting legendary status could need to get less merit, while those with a lot of merit could have a higher rank.

There's a flaw in your proposal that allows users to become a "Mega Legendary" prior to acquiring the Legendary rank.

If you're referring to those who already have the activity points while suddenly receiving ridiculous amounts of merits for questionable posts, then there are certain users that leave negative ratings for that and even if they try to cover their tracks, we still have a few ways of viewing them...

Are you implying that the amounts in their addresses are directly related to how much they actually believe in BTCitcoin?

Nope, that *user* is the only one and I'm a fan of his/her listing website

I honestly don't see any need for rank extension here, cus it probably not going to benefit any one, even if it was going to benefit someone, it might just be few persons, then the question we should ask ourselves is "is it worth the stress?".

There several other important things to improve on if actually we want to make the forum better, and one that I've been thinking about is how to bring scam rate on this forum to the barest minimum, most especially in the altcoin section,  and my suggestion is those in charge can develop or create a criteria which every altcoin wanting to list on this forum must meet before they can allowed to create an Announcement thread here as well as launch a campaign, this will really help bring the amount of scam altcoins that starts from this forum down, and also reduce the many abandoned projects here as well as give bitcointalk more credibility out there.

It doesn't have to be a dead end. You can continue to make progress on the forum (if that is your goal).
You can, for example, continue to help the community and thus earn merit, or you can do some other skillful deeds.


What are the purpose and significance of these ranks?

Why is it a dead end ?
The most of the Users dosnt get to that Rank and dont care about it .
I guess it makes no sense to add a new or more Ranks , for sure it can be some encourage for a few but not for all.
We still waiting for the badges from theymos and i think we will not get new Ranks in the next years.
Then you should start with yourself.

But where does it end? Someone will have 10.000 activity points tomorrow, and they get a higher rank than Legendary. What happens when someone gets 20.000 activity points, or 30.000 if anyone ever gets to that? Will theymos continue creating new ranks for each significant milestone or do we stop somewhere?
It's just new badges and glitter, it doesn't make the forum better in any way.

Current ending Legendary rank - is a dead end

Superhumans with more than 10,000 activity/merits will soon appear. Are you going to ignore them?

It's time to stop thinking in obsolete patterns

Why we should compare Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalks? Do you think our forum policy must follow Altcoinstalks policy? Anyway, having many ranks doesn't make Altcoinstalks forum better than Bitcointalk. To be honest, I don't see any advantages to having the Mythical and Padawan ranks. That only makes a more complicated rank system on the forum. So, why we must follow it?

Mate, if we want to appreciate those people who have dedicated their efforts and time here, doesn't mean should grant them with new higher ranks in this forum. Admin can choose other ways that can be more efficient than creating new ranks. For example, by making a different color on their tags. That is simpler and easier, isn't it?

That's just another proof that bitcointalk doesn't need more ranks in order to be successful.

Looking now at their ranks and on top of totally overdoing it, some of their rank don't even make much sense. Take for example "Padawan" rank which is the 2nd highest rank on altcointalk. That word comes from Star Wars universe and generally means apprentice, begginer, someone who just started learning while for them that's one of the highest possible ranks. If anything, that should be one of the lowest ranks.

Even altcointalks has more ranks


https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=183665.0

Another bad suggestion that was shared many times before in the pas as its not like we have bunch of quality new users that are ranking up very fast. On the contrary, situation is completely different and it's not an easy task for an average member to reach Full Member, let alone Legendary.

Keep in mind that one of the main purposes of merit system is to simply prevent spammers and shitposters ever reaching higher ranks and not to make it very hard for decent members to rank up.

Why stop there? Why not introduce Semi-Newbie > Newbie > Uber-Newbie and apply that to all ranks.
The suggestion doesn't improve the forum at all, so the chances that theymos introduces these new ranks are slim to none.

However you justify it, the end result will be that it will become harder to rank up. I don't like it. It's better if it stays the way it is. The requirements that you had to fulfill should be the same as those that new members have to respect when they join in my opinion. 

IMHO we dont need to add another title for the ranks because its already good enough, better not having like super legendary can be adjusted to like tier, for example


Or just adding a token symbol for the additional ranks i guess make more simple too.

In my own perspective. Must be better if the next color of the half gold and silver coin must be full silver and it's very nice to view, color gold next on half is very redundant, I think that if we have a new coin badge under the staff and moderators names we must choose a other color of the coins or it may silver coins until in the end.

Just a suggestion for these proposals.

My comment was serious. Obviously it would be optional  and many members have a Bitcoin address in their profiles or signatures, so privacy is not really an issue.

You put is nicely but I do not think alot of people will agree with you as they see the difference in ranks to mean superiority and intelligence. Even signature campaigns make that statement. If not, there will not be difference in payments. Campaigns will not pay someone in my rank the same thing as legendary members eventhough I have been long here in the forum before them.