Topic: Extended Ranks Proposal - page 2. (Read 647 times)

^ at least rank was making sense, why would you want to separate staff and mods?

Proposal updated

What degradation? Just because some members have the legendary rank doesn't mean they have more deeds than a newbie, junior, or another member.
We shouldn't give a fuck to the ranks because they don't mean much other than a member is a long time user (or not)

It's just a discussion platform to talk with like-minded people. We don't come here to show who has the biggest cock. I don't think I have to do more than others, we all have to be considered at the same level, no matter the rank.

I see what you mean, but don't worry, members are not blind, even if they're silent

Yeah I understand that, but we have so many things already at our disposal to make distinction between power user and just some casual forum member. Right there on profile you can see someone else's activity and merit, and then if you have that browser extension you can see bpip ranking, DT status etc so is another rank really needed? And what when many people reach that rank, should we get new ones, making forum look like some endless mmorpg grind.


You mean back in the good ol' days where all you had to do is write one mindless shitpost each day (might as well been one of those bounty authentication posts) and in a couple of years you got Legendary rank. Classic rose-tinted glasses case.


In what universe is 2-3 years short period of time? You can farm as much merit as you want, but you can't speed the activity.


It's not buggy, it just has some RNG element to it. AFAIK, activity number needed to reach Legendary is decided when you create the account. I personally wouldn't mind if its fixed number like for other lower ranks, but don't mind this either. What's the rush anyway, is there something that you can do with Legendary that you can't with Hero rank?

Have you noticed that some people reach Legendary rank on time. While others waiting a long time.
And all due to the fact that the Legendary rank does not have clearly defined requirements for activity.
Therefore, it is imperative to enter at least one more rank above Legendary

At now the Legendary rank achievement is very buggy

There is no short time, the terms of the rank-up calculating time remain the same as 10 years ago. Anyway I haven't seen this one yet, and if you know when you said it there were a lot of members who were offended that until now they haven't gone 1 level higher since the start of 2018. Let alone wanting all of their accounts to rank up, they would even feel lucky if just one of their accounts made it to the new rank.

It can be automated. As long as "address" has BTC, they will have the badge, once they don't have BTC, badge will be removed. So, it will be changing everyday depending on the holding lol.
But still, this is something which people have to attach their address with the forum and make it public as you said people will have to sacrifice their privacy, I too agree this is something not a good idea. I'm not sure if Jet Cash did a joke here lol but his tone seems to be serious.

This would require everyone to sign a message from their BTC address, which would mean they have to sacrifice their privacy, and someone would have to check it all before the badge is awarded - it doesn’t seem very applicable.

Maybe there could be a badge for the longest BTC holder in signature campaigns - someone who hasn’t spent a satoshi in years - I know for sure there are such members

This is a Bitcoin forum. I think it would be useful to know how many members actually believe in Bitcoin. Maybe a badge for all members who hold more than a certain level of Bitcoin. Perhaps 0.1 would be useful at its current value.

The new ranks from the table above looks bogus with the so many gold coins attached to them. They look funny with that. What we have at present is only a gold coin difference to the next rank and that makes it very easy to understand and interpret. Beside that, the suggested new ranks all have Legendary to their names. That makes it absurd. If there will be new ranks they should have new names. Ranking up to legendary is not easy to achieve. Yes, those who already are there will think it is easy and I guess that is why they think Theymos should increase the stakes.

Well, I'll look at you when the user's activity & merit achievements starts to get close to the marks above 9000

Do not exaggerate, but it's looking good

The one who is motivated only by some new rank is on the wrong forum, because rank does not make anyone better or worse, some other things are much more important.

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I understand that it is important for some to be prominent and different from others, whether they have earned 5000 or 10 000 merits, or made 100 000 good reports - but we do not need new ranks for that, each such member can get a special badge, maybe change the color of the coins below the name  - and for those who have been on the forum for more than 10 years and have been active in the last 1 year, recognition could be given by adding the word "veteran" to the profile.

I'm not a massive advocate for a new rank, neither do I care about status that much, and there's plenty of others that don't, but there are definitely users on this forum which are motivated by this sort of thing, and that could potentially be good for the forum. I do definitely see the downsides, and I definitely don't think the forum needs a new rank, but if implemented correctly it could potentially contribute positively to the forum. What the criteria should be I don't really know.

As long as we don't become like one of those gaming servers like I pointed out earlier.

Then it's decided, the new rank will be called "fossil" or "part of the furniture" .

Maybe, earned merit could be a contributing factor to getting a certain rank, might potentially increase the motivation for users to get more merit that they earned, I don't know.

While it definitely is something that artificially changes the way users act, it does actually provide motivation. When there's a limited rank that only a select few will ever reach, then some genuine users will be motivated by that. Unfortunately, you do have the flip side, where the status hungry users then try their absolute hardest, despite it potentially being detrimental to the forum.There's pros, and definitely cons to adding an exclusive type of rank.

If we think about it well, adding more ranks may increase the work of mods because it means an increase in the number of posts and thus an increase in the possibility of spamming.

The only beneficiary will be the signature campaigns, as it means that it is easy to distinguish high-ranking accounts with the possibility of giving them a little more money than the rest of other members.

Currently there is no point to add more ranks, perhaps it is better to focus on getting things like a custom title, new Positions (like VIP, Donator) a special star and so on.

Currently, there is no difference between a hero and a legendary member.

Conservation of current system of ranks is a direct path to degradation. Many reaching Legendary rank lose motivation for further useful deeds.

People need in development

A long time ago Legendary rank sounded proud and divine. But now Legendary rank means nothing. Some farmers pump this rank in a short time. This rank has turned into something like a Newbie


-I am God
-Yo're not a God
-Blasphemy
https://youtu.be/lNwzawXu4v8?t=55

+1, while I would put "getting into the realm of bullshit" instead that bold part, as that's what making up new ranks just for the sake of it looks like to me.


This also serves as an answer to those asking for increased merit requirement for current ranks as they don't realize that very few managed to reach Legendary rank since merit system kicked in, compared to the amount of new members.


This sums it up really, its all about the ego and that's the one thing I noticed on all forums; after they spend a lot of time on some forum, some people start taking it way too seriously and even substituting real life accomplishment with the forum ones. I am not saying that all people asking for more ranks are doing that, but I've experienced that more than once in the real life.

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All these demands for the extra titles, ranks, badges and whatnot reminds me of the image below. Do we really need that? 

just an opinion, I think adding a new rank is unnecessary. I feel like a badge(similar to the art badge) that will be exclusive to members who reached certain merit/activity after reaching the required merit/activity for legendary would suffice.

Hero and Legendary already seem pompous enough names, which are difficult to surpass without going into the realm of the gods. Adding a prefix to Legendary seems to sell short on the pompous scale …

If meeting the current Activity required for a Legendary is between 2 and 3 years roughly, meeting 5K would take over 13 years, and 10K over 27 years. Not much of an incentive in real terms, and seemingly more relatable to becoming an aged relic on the forum, so as to say.

Since the Merit System was set in motion(*), 182 Legendary members (48 from scratch) have ranked-up needing Merits in the process, and 173 Heroes (71 from scratch). Not that many considering (besides all those pre-Merit System ranked members also existing).

There could be room for additional ranks, although I wouldn’t say that there is any seemingly good reason for it beyond elevating the ego of those that would meet the requirement, at most. Currently:

73 Accounts surpass 2K Activity + 2k Merits (earned+airdropped)
7 Accounts surpass 3K Activity + 3k Merits (earned+airdropped)
1 Account surpasses 4K Activity + 4k Merits (earned+airdropped)



(*) https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up?:language=es-ES&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

That's an idea I can get behind--not only because it'd be a much-needed (IMO) addition to the ranking system but because a title like that would showcase just how uncensored bitcointalk is.  There are forums out there--many of them, in fact--where you wouldn't even be able to write "motherfucker" in a post without having it deleted by a mod.  So I second that suggestion.

And that's why such members who do stick around long enough to earn the highest rank ought to be rewarded with such, regardless of what it's named.  Maybe 4000 activity is a bit much, but a new rank based on activity and a hard-to-achieve number of merits should at least be considered by Theymos.  I've written much the same thing every time this issue pops up.

I don't think you're wrong; I even thought he'd rejected the idea out of hand, but there's been talk of this for so long that I lose track in my head of what Theymos's most recent opinion is on any given suggestion.  Seems like he so rarely gives one, and when he does I probably miss it.