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Topic: Extortion (A Felony) Committed on Forums, Mod inaction? Against Rules? - page 2. (Read 743 times)

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Can default trust members put negs on somebody and then tell them to pay up to remove it? Obviously the community will revolt against such an activity,

Pay up to whom? if you could ask them to pay to the forum I don't see how that could result in a community revolting, would you consider paying the fee for evil IPs as extortion? or maybe paying for copper membership is also an extortion attempt?

But because forum owners charge those fees nobody says anything.
Stop trolling us for one unhandled report, I've got 27 unhandled reports but you don't see me trolling people for them.
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Can default trust members put negs on somebody and then tell them to pay up to remove it?

Yes they can, and I would be very surprised if they were banned for it.  They would likely be removed from DT by whomever had them listed, and painted red for days, but the staff in "official" capacity likely wouldn't act.

If you really think this is some felonious assault you need to contact law enforcement.  They would contact theymos with appropriate legal documents and theymos would comply or fight it, both of which I believe he has done before.  Those are the proper channels to follow not complaining about a bad report and banning another user.

Frankly you sound a little butthurt about a single report not being handled and a user not being banned.
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But if the forum isn't thwarting provable criminal activity, what has it become? What will the community turn into?

I mean the core of the community (we have a bit of a spam issue ATM LOL) will become what it has always been.  A community based on open, borderless, permissionless, trustless, decentralized technology we call the blockchain.

The forum is not judge jury and executioner over every contract made on the forum.  Learning how to transact and navigate a borderless, permissionless, trustless technology is not always easy or safe.  But everyone will learn when it is the new norm!!  Cool
We're not talking about a contract, we're talking about criminal extortion. Can default trust members put negs on somebody and then tell them to pay up to remove it? Obviously the community will revolt against such an activity, so why is this any different? Why is this person protected to try to extort people into silence? Why is staff not policing the rules about illegal activity? Report is still "unhandled".



legendary
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But if the forum isn't thwarting provable criminal activity, what has it become? What will the community turn into?

I mean the core of the community (we have a bit of a spam issue ATM LOL) will become what it has always been.  A community based on open, borderless, permissionless, trustless, decentralized technology we call the blockchain.

The forum is not judge jury and executioner over every contract made on the forum.  Learning how to transact and navigate a borderless, permissionless, trustless technology is not always easy or safe.  But everyone will learn when it is the new norm!!  Cool
hero member
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Like I said. Had a look and I disagree.

Let's see if staff steps in... like that'd ever happened...
Well, it's always in the best interest of a website/marketplace/forum to operate not only within their own rules, but the laws of the places they allow access to their website as well. To limit liability and prevent investigations, which I assume is why that rule is there to begin with.

I give up, you are right. Has staff commented on it by now?
No, it is still an 'unhandled' report. Hilarious did comment informally here, before I showed the extortion. Basically he said they don't moderate scams. He also seems displeased at the current state of admin... but what happened and is provable by the PM and also the pictures of the PM is that criminal extortion occurred, which is a felony, not just some shitty scam. I'm happy you agree.

So no, any formal comment on the reported PM that was engaged in illegal activity has not been stated.
legendary
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Like I said. Had a look and I disagree.

Let's see if staff steps in... like that'd ever happened...
Well, it's always in the best interest of a website/marketplace/forum to operate not only within their own rules, but the laws of the places they allow access to their website as well. To limit liability and prevent investigations, which I assume is why that rule is there to begin with.

I give up, you are right. Has staff commented on it by now?
hero member
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Like I said. Had a look and I disagree.

Let's see if staff steps in... like that'd ever happened...
Well, it's always in the best interest of a website/marketplace/forum to operate not only within their own rules, but the laws of the places they allow access to their website as well. To limit liability and prevent investigations, which I assume is why that rule is there to begin with.
legendary
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Like I said. Had a look and I disagree.

Let's see if staff steps in... like that'd ever happened...
hero member
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If you have to ask, it doesn't make sense to talk to you. Report your issue and see if the staff reacts.
I asked because I could probably show you why those things aren't "illegal". Also, I'm not sure what "DS" is an acronym for (digital goods?). Illegal things would include drugs or alcohol (without a license). Breaking ToS of companies is not "illegal" but does open whoever the seller is to civil lawsuits (like that'd ever happen, lol). So like microsoft keys aren't illegal, paypal accounts aren't illegal, discounted giftcards aren't illegal. Until there is proof they were obtained illegally, those things are not illegal and don't fall under the forum rule. However, extortion like the one noted is not only provable, it is also highly illegal in all countries.
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Is this the same Bitcasino.io evading their negative trust by registering a new account? people have scammed millions of dollars by using this forum, what makes you think anybody would care about your campaign payments?
legendary
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As a Hero Member, you should know: Scams are not moderated. So unless something happened that puts the forum at risk, no one will do anything. However, you could contact staff and see if something happens.
Scams no, selling illegal goods and criminal activity like credit card fraud etc.? Yes, those are moderated. This is exactly the same scenario as in selling illegal goods or credit card fraud.

Checked the DS section, have to disagree. For the "moderated" part.
What illegal activity is going on there lol?

If you have to ask, it doesn't make sense to talk to you. Report your issue and see if the staff reacts.
hero member
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As a Hero Member, you should know: Scams are not moderated. So unless something happened that puts the forum at risk, no one will do anything. However, you could contact staff and see if something happens.
Scams no, selling illegal goods and criminal activity like credit card fraud etc.? Yes, those are moderated. This is exactly the same scenario as in selling illegal goods or credit card fraud.

Checked the DS section, have to disagree. For the "moderated" part.
What illegal activity is going on there lol?
legendary
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As a Hero Member, you should know: Scams are not moderated. So unless something happened that puts the forum at risk, no one will do anything. However, you could contact staff and see if something happens.
Scams no, selling illegal goods and criminal activity like credit card fraud etc.? Yes, those are moderated. This is exactly the same scenario as in selling illegal goods or credit card fraud.

Checked the DS section, have to disagree. For the "moderated" part.
hero member
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As a Hero Member, you should know: Scams are not moderated. So unless something happened that puts the forum at risk, no one will do anything. However, you could contact staff and see if something happens.
Scams no, selling illegal goods and criminal activity like credit card fraud etc.? Yes, those are moderated. This is exactly the same scenario as in selling illegal goods or credit card fraud. I believe these are rules to limit the liability of BTC from actual criminal activity and police interventions.
legendary
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As a Hero Member, you should know: Scams and personal bitching is not moderated. So unless something happened that puts the forum at risk, no one will do anything. However, you could contact staff and see if they will do something about it, which I doubt.
hero member
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extortion is a federal and state crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison (in USA).

So call the cops...
LOL Grin if it was done in real life, sure. The capabilities of police to unmask this individual on the internet, who probably doesn't even live in the same country... they'd subpoena BitcoinTalk for information requests. There's a lot of barriers there, and I wouldn't want the police knocking down the door of a forum I like a lot, and has provided a lot for me and for many others. But if the forum isn't thwarting provable criminal activity, what has it become? What will the community turn into?
legendary
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extortion is a federal and state crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison (in USA).

So call the cops...
hero member
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Unreal if this is allowed to continue and he can do it to other people. 97% accuracy across over a hundred reports, let's hope this doesn't fall into the 3% because he has friends in high places.

You've just been told this isn't a forum issue. If it isn't breaking forum rules then the moderators will not deal with it.
Committing crimes is breaking the forum rules... extortion is a federal and state crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison (in USA). All other countries have anti-extortion laws. I've sent report tickets in, they are all "unhandled" right now. I'm not saying he should be put in prison or anything, but that illegal activity has occurred,  is provable, and is not being dealt with. That is a Meta (talking about the forum) issue if I've ever seen one. I'm agreeing that maybe asking for a little help on how to report somebody is not belonging in the meta thread (probs belongs in beginner and help), but now it has morphed into it. I'll change the title and stuff to make it more appropriate now. I follow all rules.



This guy was paid in entirety for his Week #1 of work.

He is acting like I stiffed him out of some money, which is 100% false.

So his only problem is the fact he was booted from my Campaign.

Jeremy, this does not discount the fact that you are extorting people for censorship, which is illegal. Also, Libertarians and the Bitcoin community hate censorship. You can't just simply say sorry for committing a crime like it never happened. Should murders be allowed to say sorry and not face punishment? You threatened me to take down my posts, or else I would not have payment you agreed to pay already. That is criminal extortion/blackmail.
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he is a full mamber but his don't have any knowledge for bitcoin and other cryptocurrency coin. his all post is spaming post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43282423
legendary
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This guy was paid in entirety for his Week #1 of work.

He is acting like I stiffed him out of some money, which is 100% false.

So his only problem is the fact he was booted from my Campaign.

He fails to understand that I was going to boot him even if he hadn't acted up.

His post quality isn't that good, and I replaced him with a Legendary member with better quality posts.

On top of that, he is not doing the forum and favors by spamming the same thing in numerous threads.



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