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Topic: [FABLE] The Resurrection of YoBit (Read 1968 times)

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Merit: 175
September 27, 2019, 12:04:21 AM
#94
Timely bump.

Yeah right timely bump, their signature is active again my friend just received a notification that they are active again and they have sent notification but I'm ok with the signature campaign even if they have a full member in their campaign, but seldom see many wearing their signature.
copper member
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Spear the bees
April 22, 2019, 04:10:44 PM
#93
Ok there may be few case or i guess many cases but not everyone is same and not everyone writes which could be considered as a spam. Just tell me one thing  are all the red trust are giving on the basis that you could not write good ?
Not exactly sure what you're saying. Red trust should not be given to anyone on the basis of their post quality (poor or not).
Same goes for me here. I used yobit and I always had my money in my pocket. I don't know if the DT members will redtag me for using the signature of yobit and I am asking for a clear instruction to be made.. Maybe PM us first or let us know.. Even now.. The situation is unknown. Yobit has some issues with some customers but I was never one of them so I trust them.. About the redtag.. Don't destroy peoples made accounts please.. Let us know and give us a chance first to remove the sig. Yobit having some scam accusation is normal.. It doesn't mean that they are scammers..if the peoples prove that it is scam.. I will delete the sig immediately.
Considering the fact that you don't have a signature, I'm going to assume banned...

Interesting, considering your claims that you weren't spamming.
sr. member
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Merit: 254
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April 22, 2019, 05:24:31 AM
#92
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.

Yobit signature guidelines just says that they will not accept -ve trusted members but in reality they are accepting and paying it. So Yobit campaign will go on with red tagged users (as they have nothing to fear as they are already tagged and forum is not going to ban them).


Those who are still in support of Yobit, should really check the trust of below profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594



I disagree with you. A lot of red trust has been given to members on false accusations and based on personal revenge from the DT member. I still see many Red trusted Members have much better writing skills than those with no trust at all.

False accusations?
For example, read most of the topics in the last couple of days. There is simply copying messages and messages without meaning. People write 10 posts per hour! Really killing any dialogue with spam.
I think it's time to start punishing this bots.


Ok there may be few case or i guess many cases but not everyone is same and not everyone writes which could be considered as a spam. Just tell me one thing  are all the red trust are giving on the basis that you could not write good ?
sr. member
Activity: 924
Merit: 255
April 22, 2019, 04:32:07 AM
#91
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.

Yobit signature guidelines just says that they will not accept -ve trusted members but in reality they are accepting and paying it. So Yobit campaign will go on with red tagged users (as they have nothing to fear as they are already tagged and forum is not going to ban them).


Those who are still in support of Yobit, should really check the trust of below profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594



I disagree with you. A lot of red trust has been given to members on false accusations and based on personal revenge from the DT member. I still see many Red trusted Members have much better writing skills than those with no trust at all.

False accusations?
For example, read most of the topics in the last couple of days. There is simply copying messages and messages without meaning. People write 10 posts per hour! Really killing any dialogue with spam.
I think it's time to start punishing this bots.
sr. member
Activity: 1002
Merit: 254
Tontogether | Save Smart & Win Big
April 22, 2019, 02:24:49 AM
#90
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.

Yobit signature guidelines just says that they will not accept -ve trusted members but in reality they are accepting and paying it. So Yobit campaign will go on with red tagged users (as they have nothing to fear as they are already tagged and forum is not going to ban them).


Those who are still in support of Yobit, should really check the trust of below profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594



I disagree with you. A lot of red trust has been given to members on false accusations and based on personal revenge from the DT member. I still see many Red trusted Members have much better writing skills than those with no trust at all.
sr. member
Activity: 924
Merit: 255
April 21, 2019, 06:32:43 AM
#89
It is very sad that quite respectable members of the community sell their principles for money. This scamexchange stole 2.89 bitcoins from me and never return. I think it’s not just with me that history happened. Probably from this money advertising will be paid  Lips sealed Angry Angry
And it would be honest to first warn for such advertising, and if it does not help, then paint the trust in bright red.
LoyceV great work mate!
legendary
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April 21, 2019, 06:09:55 AM
#88
Up to 180 now:

#   UserPosts in 24h   Avg post length   Earned merits   DT score
1.Saint-loup46430274
I'm gonna try my best LoyceV impression so please bear with me.
I created a script for mikeywith's topic already, so here's my version of your list:
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   125. Lion BItcoin Shop (Trust: -2: -1 / +0) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
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   130. jualidbitmixer (Trust: -4: -2 / +0) (BPIP)
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full member
Activity: 616
Merit: 167
April 21, 2019, 05:59:02 AM
#87
There are over 200 exchanges on CMC right now. Many of them are awesome and definitely don't encourage spam posts from old senior member accounts that haven't received any merit.

Why the hell do people still use Yobit, just go with a competitor exchange that isn't filled with scam accusations and terrible 'campaigns' that encourage spam session users.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
I am alive but in hibernation.
April 21, 2019, 05:45:25 AM
#86
I think yobit should fix its bug to avoid negative trusted participant.

What do you think about "Yobit" fixing it's own trust summary?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594

A bug in system makes them more untrustworthy.

I guess if they get decent amount of neutral /positive user, they might freeze the -ve trusted users account. Money is coming in Yobit accounts and  no idea if anybody actually withdrawn it.
sr. member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 306
April 21, 2019, 05:13:24 AM
#85
Do you know that there's drugs sellers who sells you something that could end up your life being addicted to something that could kill you?
Did the seller oblige you or force you to buy it?
What the hell does that have to do with anything? And legal drugs have warnings on them, doses, and are prescribed by a medical professional. I don't see how this is applicable to yobit.


There's advertisements here and there and there's peoples talking about the benefits of drugs and marijuana and stuffs like that.. Do you just buy drugs because people's advertised it? Recommended it? Don't you make a research first?
If people are advertising hard drugs then that's illegal, and against forum rules. (Although i have yet to see an advertisement here for drugs..?) I'm not sure if i even should respond to this, as it might look like i'm validating your argument, when really, there is none. The comparison you're drawing is ridiculous and nonexistent.

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Thats just an example.. I do have morals.. I didn't attack you neither forced you to join yobit and I already clearly stated my thoughts about yobit.. And I didn't see your post about yobit and I won't see it neither look for it.. Do you know why? Because I smell that you have an issue with them..
Ah. So you're willing to turn a blind eye just so as long as you're getting paid. The only person you're lying to is yourself dude.

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Which is not my business.. You have to go to the police office if they scammed you, not just coming here to quote my own words and understanding them the way you like.. Just stay away from my name.. You are trying to say that I have no morals and in the same time you're trying to convince me to leave the signature compaign? Is that logical?
Sure. You're a sellout. I don't see how it's illogical. By leaving the campaign you could perhaps recover a shred of your dignity.

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FYI, a guy with a good trust just said that we are free to join the sig compaign but we must not spam the forum.. If yobit got proved as a scam platform, then the signature compaign thread will be removed and the members wearing the signature will be tagged.
Again, turning a blind eye until the damage has been done. That's the definition of having no morals, or perhaps just that of being a scammer.



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And If you really want me to leave the signature and to showoff my morals for real, you might be welcomed to contact ChipMixer's compaign manager and leave your spot for me.. I would be honored to join em. Will you do that? Or not? I think you won't do it.. Do you know why?
The answer is simple, just because of money.. You are with them because of the paycheque! So please stop talking about morals and stay away. (or prove that I am wrong and give me your spot).
Ba Byeee!
Sure i am, but they're not the ones fucking over their own userbase with ridiculous pump and dumps, fake coin tickers & shady "Investment programs".

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(update:
Just look at this post :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50694534
This is the same guy that is trying to fight yobit sig's possible spam attemp..Lmao.. He is even in ChipMixer's sig compaign and he just posted a reply that contains only 1 line and like 11 word. Which is a pure spam. Or am I wrong? First, enhance your posts and then, you will be welcomed to give me orders!)
A wise man once said :
'' Don't listen to AdolfinWolf's instructions and speeches because he is already a spammer''.
Now leave me in peace of mind, please.
Post had 56/100 characters. What's your point exactly?
Lol.. Always trying to run away for every argument i mentioned which means that you are trying to act smart.
Don' t just talk about dignity and morals because even mixers might be involved in mixing hacked money or blackhat stuffs.. I am not saying anything but you just have to grow up and stop pointing me using your finger and saying '' scammer ''.. And you don't know me, don't even try to judge me because you're just an animal, a human, and you're not a god to say that I don't have a dignity and I will not remove the signature until the DT members says that we should do that.
Fine?
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
April 21, 2019, 05:03:52 AM
#84
Do you know that there's drugs sellers who sells you something that could end up your life being addicted to something that could kill you?
Did the seller oblige you or force you to buy it?
What the hell does that have to do with anything? And legal drugs have warnings on them, doses, and are prescribed by a medical professional. I don't see how this is applicable to yobit.


There's advertisements here and there and there's peoples talking about the benefits of drugs and marijuana and stuffs like that.. Do you just buy drugs because people's advertised it? Recommended it? Don't you make a research first?
If people are advertising hard drugs then that's illegal, and against forum rules. (Although i have yet to see an advertisement here for drugs..?) I'm not sure if i even should respond to this, as it might look like i'm validating your argument, when really, there is none. The comparison you're drawing is ridiculous and nonexistent.

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Thats just an example.. I do have morals.. I didn't attack you neither forced you to join yobit and I already clearly stated my thoughts about yobit.. And I didn't see your post about yobit and I won't see it neither look for it.. Do you know why? Because I smell that you have an issue with them..
Ah. So you're willing to turn a blind eye just so as long as you're getting paid. The only person you're lying to is yourself dude.

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Which is not my business.. You have to go to the police office if they scammed you, not just coming here to quote my own words and understanding them the way you like.. Just stay away from my name.. You are trying to say that I have no morals and in the same time you're trying to convince me to leave the signature compaign? Is that logical?
Sure. You're a sellout. I don't see how it's illogical. By leaving the campaign you could perhaps recover a shred of your dignity.

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FYI, a guy with a good trust just said that we are free to join the sig compaign but we must not spam the forum.. If yobit got proved as a scam platform, then the signature compaign thread will be removed and the members wearing the signature will be tagged.
Again, turning a blind eye until the damage has been done. That's the definition of having no morals, or perhaps just that of being a scammer.



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And If you really want me to leave the signature and to showoff my morals for real, you might be welcomed to contact ChipMixer's compaign manager and leave your spot for me.. I would be honored to join em. Will you do that? Or not? I think you won't do it.. Do you know why?
The answer is simple, just because of money.. You are with them because of the paycheque! So please stop talking about morals and stay away. (or prove that I am wrong and give me your spot).
Ba Byeee!
Sure i am, but they're not the ones fucking over their own userbase with ridiculous pump and dumps, fake coin tickers & shady "Investment programs".

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(update:
Just look at this post :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50694534
This is the same guy that is trying to fight yobit sig's possible spam attemp..Lmao.. He is even in ChipMixer's sig compaign and he just posted a reply that contains only 1 line and like 11 word. Which is a pure spam. Or am I wrong? First, enhance your posts and then, you will be welcomed to give me orders!)
A wise man once said :
'' Don't listen to AdolfinWolf's instructions and speeches because he is already a spammer''.
Now leave me in peace of mind, please.
Post had 56/100 characters. What's your point exactly?
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April 21, 2019, 04:23:01 AM
#83
I think yobit has a bug that's why negative trusted users getting payment from them.

This shitshow is getting better by the hour. No wonder marco and other scammers are topping the list. Rare chance to cash in and obviously they already don't give a shit about the forum.

Up to 180 now:



Can you also check the inactive time between the wearing of this signature and the last post before the signature? Some accounts magically become active for this signature Roll Eyes
 (I have the suspicion that many of them are alt and this will speed up a lot the process to hunt them)
Yes, nowadays altcoin section is almost no good project and also bitcoin payment is low at the same time all people cant be accepted.  The more important thing no one accepts negative trusted people. So, when they got a chance by luck they are trying to proper use of that. I think yobit should fix its bug to avoid negative trusted participant.
legendary
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April 21, 2019, 04:15:06 AM
#82
I think yobit has a bug that's why negative trusted users getting payment from them.

This shitshow is getting better by the hour. No wonder marco and other scammers are topping the list. Rare chance to cash in and obviously they already don't give a shit about the forum.

Up to 180 now:



Can you also check the inactive time between the wearing of this signature and the last post before the signature? Some accounts magically become active for this signature Roll Eyes
 (I have the suspicion that many of them are alt and this will speed up a lot the process to hunt them)
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April 21, 2019, 03:24:42 AM
#81
Yobit signature guidelines just says that they will not accept -ve trusted members but in reality they are accepting and paying it. So Yobit campaign will go on with red tagged users (as they have nothing to fear as they are already tagged and forum is not going to ban them).
I think there is a bug as they sent more payment then they amount they wanted to give, later they fixed that. And on the same way, they will fix the bug of negative trust too then no negative trusted will be paid.
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April 21, 2019, 03:19:42 AM
#80
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.

Yobit signature guidelines just says that they will not accept -ve trusted members but in reality they are accepting and paying it. So Yobit campaign will go on with red tagged users (as they have nothing to fear as they are already tagged and forum is not going to ban them).


Those who are still in support of Yobit, should really check the trust of below profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594

legendary
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April 21, 2019, 01:20:48 AM
#79
That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.
Yes, I think it's only an eastern egg for the eastern week-end. Tuesday it will be over imo.
legendary
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April 21, 2019, 12:51:38 AM
#78
I think yobit has a bug that's why negative trusted users getting payment from them.

This shitshow is getting better by the hour. No wonder marco and other scammers are topping the list. Rare chance to cash in and obviously they already don't give a shit about the forum.

Up to 180 now:

#   UserPosts in 24h   Avg post length   Earned merits   DT score
1.Saint-loup46430274
2.DBronze98412560-4: -2 / +0
3.|Admiral|401168-2: -1 / +0
4.RamBahadur.Gurung3850812
5.dimondimon301710
6.muslol67302329
7.Vinalians282870
8.senne273526
9.BestBitcoinOdds2624520
10.marcotheminer262787-125: -7 / +3
11.BeManga252310
12.mtmitat25800
13.pcfli251900-4: -2 / +0
14.FistBump231500
15.Rumhurius2319242
16.Scheede23323283
17.CodyAlfaridzi2237218
18.furylmz222711
19.green5472223791
20.Wawa2013222370
21.Aceeakell212360
22.honghaisea212032
23.Pearls Before Swine2183122
24.X2Team2017211360
25.ChrisPop203862
26.craslovell2021312
27.Judge-Dredd201440
28.meliodas203570
29.snakey203501-8: -3 / +0
30.tenakha202640
31.TribalBob202660
32.tsaroz2028911
33.Fortify19459330: -0 / +3
34.mdayonliner19457358-2: -2 / +2
35.mr_random192270
36.Hellion9318560
37.MonsterV183490
38.Splatters182690
39.tiptopgemdotcom18261010: -0 / +1
40.fuathan1735012
41.micalith172681
42.rijaljun172830
43.rizkyrz172100
44.robelneo173593
45.ShooterXD174011-1: -1 / +1
46.bonker163081
47.Kepasa161560
48.nara1892162128
49.Wayan_Pedjeng163390
50.bangkecol1515064
51.codehtcmail153481
52.FoBoT153230
53.Wendigo1529828-2: -1 / +0
54.Blowon143400
55.generous141590-2: -1 / +0
56.HellDiverUK142001
57.Nevsky142360
58.TillKoeln143500
59.webmir141710
60.jualidbitmixer133380-2: -1 / +0
61.Reatim133001
62.richjohn133095
63.artur11110000121885
64.BlackMambaPH12331920: -0 / +2
65.DaveF125955720: -0 / +2
66.Fatunad124314
67.fcmatt121921-2: -1 / +0
68.Virtual miner124162
69.yvesp110123561
70.aioc113382
71.D ltr114551
72.Quidat113894
73.samputin116023
74.simplelisten113081
75.sonerbo112891
76.tyoA7X111941-4: -2 / +0
77.BartS103954
78.djsugar104061
79.Icygreen10400124
80.-Joni-101060
81.markus124104510
82.matchi2011103683
83.Omega Weapon103921
84.rocku12345103540
85.Strongkored102840-2: -1 / +0
86.Anonylz94361
87.Mihaylovic93710
88.PHI16189198591
89.trannamtan93640
90.adel hmdt83982
91.bobyhodob82880
92.btcdevil834427-2: -1 / +0
93.mistanama83410
94.rolik200181270
95.Vesperion81750
96.Bitdonator73040
97.Ferris41973790
98.mdzahed13474390
99.medsi27470010: -0 / +1
100.TCTDev776210
101.AngelSky634837-2: -1 / +0
102.binhvo1505637311
103.Darooghe64842
104.emersonlogan6262380
105.gamer41566496010: -0 / +1
106.janggernaut6364010: -0 / +1
107.Mandoy66188
108.mmo4me.201661856
109.sempak63320
110.teosanru63462
111.Asmonist52060
112.bamboylee53481
113.CryptInvest566194
114.onlinedragon56781
115.shimbark12353570-2: -1 / +0
116.skarais52210
117.2double046898
118.bittamak41550
119.coupable49826
120.ranlo4429210: -0 / +1
121.Text43550
122.vamp842470
123.VieleSind44550
124.A-Bolt323885
125.Aqualung8931685
126.Bacchu32740
127.danherbias0733660
128.idontcare31890
129.lembang31900
130.paulk1108731780
131.Triffin33640
132.ysakay33079
133.Bardman238411
134.bias21341
135.cryp24x22740
136.djonkar25000
137.dmcx24310
138.EpyxZ23910
139.InvoKing227563
140.martinyin21230
141.murazor21764
142.pginvest23250
143.psihotoc22051
144.Salmen24898
145.SushiNoTomato22830
146.target22939
147.Belligerent Fool11721
148.Chinesegandalf12360
149.hdtqisg11210
150.kurbeks1265
151.Myrik_BY121615
152.pinkflower12759
153.plast55511400
154.Vivik1780
155.babos8383000
156.bigon000
157.bileq009
158.botatrada000
159.Burmik123007
160.Enticed87000
161.fl32biz000
162.freegold000
163.hashman000
164.hxtop000
165.imbest000-2: -1 / +0
166.kpcian0029-4: -2 / +0
167.lab rat hoax002
168.Lion BItcoin Shop000-2: -1 / +0
169.matveevka000-2: -1 / +0
170.Muhtaixa001
171.RagingBull000
172.rudin123000
173.SaracenRomero213002
174.secone000
175.shadabahmed000
176.sHeRiLyN1618000-2: -1 / +0
177.Skarner21000
178.tungaqhd004
179.Xinarae*005
180.yavwa000

These are users who have "1450 COINS" in their signature (i.e. likely a Yobit signature) and have posted recently. It's not 100% complete because I may have missed some posts or not retrieved some user profiles yet.
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April 21, 2019, 12:43:50 AM
#77
1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget.

What kind of math did you use for this?
I think marco considered 150 user and 10 posts average per day and 0.00015BTC average payment per post.
Edit:

I think if they spam they will be banned and in this way, average posts might be below 10 per day.
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April 21, 2019, 12:40:31 AM
#76
1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget.

What kind of math did you use for this?

LE:
I think marco considered 150 user and 10 posts average per day and 0.00015BTC average payment per post.

The problem is not from where he got the numbers, but 15*15 will never make 75 Tongue
The result would be in that case 0.255

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April 21, 2019, 12:39:19 AM
#75
That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

Why are you giving them free advertising?
I saw from a bitcointalk post that they received 0.0003BTC per post (first time) and now they are receiving according to the announcement rate. Also, I saw there that negative trusted user getting payment from there. I think yobit has a bug that's why negative trusted users getting payment from them. So, it is not free and thinks yobit will soon stop to give payment to a negatively trusted people.
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April 21, 2019, 12:32:53 AM
#74
That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

Why are you giving them free advertising?
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April 20, 2019, 11:57:11 PM
#73
That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.
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April 20, 2019, 07:58:35 PM
#72
~snip~
Nice work mate.
Have you read the posts of dimondimon? If not, please read some of his posts I bet you will be entertained.  Cheesy



Now as the list is almost ready, bitcointalk polices should run an investigation to find the cheaters... It is possible, some users will try to abuse Yobit campaign as they do not have a manager I guess.
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April 20, 2019, 07:37:02 PM
#71
https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/ shows the signatures they're supposed to use so it can be detected quite accurately.

I'm gonna try my best LoyceV impression so please bear with me.

Edit - updated list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50699097
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April 20, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
#70
-snip-
Seems like you didn't even look at my post, where i provided clear evidence and links of their fraudulent behavior..

i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.
Ahh. So someone else has to determine whether or not what you're advertising is a scam in order for you to remove your signature.

You really have no morals at all, do you?


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I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
Roll Eyes

Do you know that there's drugs sellers who sells you something that could end up your life being addicted to something that could kill you?
Did the seller oblige you or force you to buy it?
There's advertisements here and there and there's peoples talking about the benefits of drugs and marijuana and stuffs like that.. Do you just buy drugs because people's advertised it? Recommended it? Don't you make a research first?
Thats just an example.. I do have morals.. I didn't attack you neither forced you to join yobit and I already clearly stated my thoughts about yobit.. And I didn't see your post about yobit and I won't see it neither look for it.. Do you know why? Because I smell that you have an issue with them.. Which is not my business.. You have to go to the police office if they scammed you, not just coming here to quote my own words and understanding them the way you like.. Just stay away from my name.. You are trying to say that I have no morals and in the same time you're trying to convince me to leave the signature compaign? Is that logical?
FYI, a guy with a good trust just said that we are free to join the sig compaign but we must not spam the forum.. If yobit got proved as a scam platform, then the signature compaign thread will be removed and the members wearing the signature will be tagged.
That's enough for me. I will be wearing the signature until I find something that could help me financially..
And If you really want me to leave the signature and to showoff my morals for real, you might be welcomed to contact ChipMixer's compaign manager and leave your spot for me.. I would be honored to join em. Will you do that? Or not? I think you won't do it.. Do you know why?
The answer is simple, just because of money.. You are with them because of the paycheque! So please stop talking about morals and stay away. (or prove that I am wrong and give me your spot).
Ba Byeee!

(update:
Just look at this post :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50694534
This is the same guy that is trying to fight yobit sig's possible spam attemp..Lmao.. He is even in ChipMixer's sig compaign and he just posted a reply that contains only 1 line and like 11 word. Which is a pure spam. Or am I wrong? First, enhance your posts and then, you will be welcomed to give me orders!)
A wise man once said :
'' Don't listen to AdolfinWolf's instructions and speeches because he is already a spammer''.
Now leave me in peace of mind, please.
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April 20, 2019, 06:17:41 PM
#69
I also wonder why they didn't bother add merit as requirement on their rules since they mention "Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign."
We can call the rule as pseudo rule on post quality. They don't care about post quality, but they add that rule because other campaigns have it.
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April 20, 2019, 05:45:53 PM
#68
Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"...
Check this guy and his post history.
If I could then I'd have made a list of these experts within an hour. Sadly, no spreadsheet to check, manual search would take some time.

Maybe Loyce can do it fast?  Roll Eyes

Yeah, I asked the same thing, more and more accounts are now resurrected with this signature: Smiley


Maybe @loyceV can scrap who is using the signature ans when was the last activity before wearing the signature, sadly I have no skill to do it.

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April 20, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
#67
Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"...
Check this guy and his post history.
If I could then I'd have made a list of these experts within an hour. Sadly, no spreadsheet to check, manual search would take some time.

Maybe Loyce can do it fast?  Roll Eyes
HCP
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 04:45:42 PM
#66
Damn... Looks like I need to pay more attention... I used YoBit a loooooong time ago when I was selling some coins as they had the lowest fees at the time... I never had any issues with withdrawals etc.

However, it looks like they have totally sold out and are just doing whatever they can to make some $$$... Undecided

It does indeed look like they're just ramping up the advertising to try and capture more fools and part them from their money with these shady "investments" Undecided

I don't see this situation working out well for anybody... Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"... Participants are likely to get tagged as either spammers or spam promoters... Less educated users might fall for the "scams" being promoted Undecided

At least the campaign is limited to Sr. Member and up... That might make one or two users a bit more cautious as they stand to lose a bit if their account gets banned for spamming... Or tagged... As opposed to newbie/jr throwaway accounts.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
#65
-snip-
Seems like you didn't even look at my post, where i provided clear evidence and links of their fraudulent behavior..

i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.
Ahh. So someone else has to determine whether or not what you're advertising is a scam in order for you to remove your signature.

You really have no morals at all, do you?


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I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
Roll Eyes
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April 20, 2019, 03:40:46 PM
#64
If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure.
Aha. But as long as you earn money, it doesn't matter if people get screwed over, does it?

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.
I'm inclined to agree.

I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
I don't even try to make their faces look like angels! I don't know how to respond to a person like you who's asking alot of questions..
Peoples aren't forced to signup into Yobit, even if somebody finds the link in one of the signatures, a research is a must! as you know: ''The law does not protect the dupes" ... I mean, i don't force peoples to join yobit.. And even peoples must make a research..if they do, they will findout about the issues and they are free to risk their funds and signup or to just walk away.. Don't try to make us responsible for the people's issues.. They trusted a platform which has an unknown owner.. and you still talking? -_-
Even some DT members had an experience with Yobit Signature, why did you just ask the DT members to Redtag us all?
Any solid proof you got there? because i only can see some comments on twitter but i didn't found like something that really makes the platform guilty .. and Again! I am not defending them and i only had like one day with them in the signature, i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.
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April 20, 2019, 02:49:23 PM
#63
I will laugh for a long time if this strange exchange blocks the withdrawal of awards to some participants of the bounty campaign.
As YoBit did with the money of some of the people who traded on this exchange.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 12:52:43 PM
#62
I haven't even made my rounds but reported my first. It was a thread I created and the guy just dropped the same generic semi passable spam.

I'd say the most annoying part of this is that you need to be on these fools steady so they don't get paid for shitposts. Does anyone know when the daily counter gets reset? For most spam I tend do do a sweep on Thursday and Friday hoping to catch campaigns near cutoff days.

In regards to anyone wanting to wear the Sig for the campaign. I would say go for it as long as you aren't planning on being a spammy shitposter. Until the exchange has been proven to have scammed users, or can be proven to be a Ponzi, it's your decision if you want to promote them.

Moving forward if there becomes a consensus that they have proven themselves to be criminal, or have crossed the line of what the community can tolerate. I would say a warning be put out to anyone wearing the signature that they will be tagged for promoting Yobit. I don't believe we are there yet, I honestly don't know much about them at this time.
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April 20, 2019, 12:47:38 PM
#61
I reported 3x higher than usual, even though i usually only report spam on boards with very few spam.
It would be great to see amount of user banned, deleted post and total post made before and after YoBit Signature Campaign "resurrected".

I also wonder why they didn't bother add merit as requirement on their rules since they mention "Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign."
We should see a lot of ban for spamming to get payment from yobit. They have not mentioned merit requirement because they know only a few people got/getting merit. If they post merit requirement then they will not get sufficient participant. I hope they will get less benefit from their participant than us as we are promoting them by creating multiple topics about them which is negative but negative marketing can be one of the best marketing. ANd it is happening to them.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
#60
If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure.
Aha. But as long as you earn money, it doesn't matter if people get screwed over, does it?

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.
I'm inclined to agree.
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April 20, 2019, 11:20:33 AM
#59
My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

Essentially those that wear the signature are promoting scams if the accusations hold true. We would also be promoting spam IMO.

I think you've answered your own question here. I don't know the extent of the accusations with this particular exchange and how much truth there is to them or not but they seem to be quite distrusted by the community. If the claims are accurate then I don't think people should be advertising for them because they're making the problem worse. People should be made aware of the issues surrounding the exchange and why supporting them is bad. If people are happy to promote a scam exchange then I think negative feedback would be acceptable. My feedback means nothing though so I would leave that to the DT big bois.

So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.
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April 20, 2019, 09:26:45 AM
#58
This one is writing in English on the Italia board Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50686903

The account is popped up after this signaure from a long inactive status so is probably an alt of someone else.

Maybe @loyceV can scrap who is using the signature ans when was the last activity before wearing the signature, sadly I have no skill to do it.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 09:12:18 AM
#57
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No it doesn't make you automatically a spammer but it does make you an associate to Scam/Spam as you're associating yourself (wearing a signature) of a proven scam exchange that engage in fake IEO, Ponzi scheme, list fake coins, pump and dump scam, scam their customers off their coins etc and don't forget anybody advertising a proven scam project is liable to be tagged too. You want some proof of their scammy behaviors? READ not forgetting, the YOBIT representative account on forum have also be red tagged for all this scam accusation.
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April 20, 2019, 09:01:13 AM
#56
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

I don't think anyone in this thread said or implied that. There might be decent posters in the campaign but with Yobit having no on-site campaign manager there is real concern that this will get out of hand.
For this, I want to say several sites promoting ico and they run a signature campaign on bitcointalk but they do not post about that on bitcointalk. What you will say about those? And as they do not post that here scam detector can't make any accusation. So, yobit is safer than those. Many people already told that yobit sending payment, so payment is not an issue. Now issue about spamming but on their rules, they mentioned spamming not allow. So, if participant spam they will remove spammer. Though it may take longer than a bounty manager from here. And yet we may tell that yobit is a scam exchange! Many people may face a problem and as a large exchange they might have few issues and all the poster who posts against someone are not right.

However, you may call it as Ponzi for https://yobit.net/en/investbox/
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 08:53:21 AM
#55
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

I don't think anyone in this thread said or implied that. There might be decent posters in the campaign but with Yobit having no on-site campaign manager there is real concern that this will get out of hand.
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Spear the bees
April 20, 2019, 07:17:44 AM
#54
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.
You know that's not what I'm implying. Stop trying to wring a debate out when there isn't one. YoBit induces spamming != YoBit campaign members are spammers.
Knowing Yobit, and they way they operate their exchange, i really don't feel as if they deserve much of a chance. [...]
Any exchange involved in the shady act of market manipulation via pump & dumps (knowingly advertising thereof) is absolutely out of the question. I forgot about this, actually.
As I said before I just really hope this campaign doesn't affect posts and their contents to the point that you have to actually look for a good quality post among countless spams and shitposts.
It will. I'm sorry.
This is why signture campaigns shouldn't be announced out of this forum. I mentioned this long time ago, that there must be a strict set of rules about running campaigns for both managers and participants. At least, participants spreadsheet should be publicly displayed.
Where's the enforceability, though? How do you isolate signature campaigners from people who have regular/personal signatures? How do you tackle members that state, "I'm not getting paid for this."
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 06:59:11 AM
#53
snip...
Luckily the campaign only accepts Sr. Member and above but who knows if some of those participants lose their post quality just to get paid. But there are surely lot of Newbies who will try to promote that campaign which will lead to spam.
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I don't understand your last sentence. Only Sr. Members and above are accepted, so how Newbies can try to promote campaign? Or you're talking about bought accounts?
There is an active running referral program with Yobit, offering 20% of comission for every trade the referral makes.
Yesterday, i reported two threads of two newbie accounts (guess they are alts) in my local board.

OP of this topic deleted the body of his thread (as he can't definetly delete it) and lock it.
As the campaign has no managers, i think this user is somehow related to Yobit. (see his sent feedbacks)

That's why most of board full by Yobit signature. However, I don't think there is any way to prevent them.
This is why signture campaigns shouldn't be announced out of this forum. I mentioned this long time ago, that there must be a strict set of rules about running campaigns for both managers and participants. At least, participants spreadsheet should be publicly displayed.
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April 20, 2019, 06:46:36 AM
#52
Do you think 20 post per day is a good requirement for such campaign?
Where you see the 20 posts requirement of the project. They mentioned the highest 20 posts will be count. So if you count a single post then you will be paid for that. 20 posts are maximum not minimum.

Yeah, but the problem with these kind of campaigns is when they allow and pay users for that amount of posts per day they create some kind of a competition for lower quality posters so that everyone wants to reach the maximum number of posts daily to get paid more, specially when there is no quality control over who is going to get picked for these postings except I think the neg trust...

As I said before I just really hope this campaign doesn't affect posts and their contents to the point that you have to actually look for a good quality post among countless spams and shitposts.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 06:44:20 AM
#51
Yobit just give opportunities to spammers. I am not saying that all participants are spammer but, most of them. They are very clever and they run new signature campaign by their exchange. They have not bothered to open new thread for their campaign. This is oppurtunity for them who are not accepted any btc signature due to spam. Seems Yobit just need rank. I don't think they are considering or maintain any quality of post. That's why most of board full by Yobit signature. However, I don't think there is any way to prevent them.
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April 20, 2019, 06:44:08 AM
#50
Where you see the 20 posts requirement of the project. They mentioned the highest 20 posts will be count. So if you count a single post then you will be paid for that. 20 posts are maximum not minimum.
I have read the entire Signature campaign thread (as there are only few content) and I fully understood everything. Even if it's max post or not it is still a requirement. And, do you think stupid people who's after some penny will only make a single post or let us say just about 3 to 5 posts per day? I bet NOT, those people will take advantage and surely make 20 posts per day in order to receive higher payments.

I hope that I explained it well Bud.

~snip
I understand what you feel and it's good to know that you have good intentions for the forum. Everyone has a chance and I'm not forcing you to back out from joining Yobit, actually I'm not telling anyone not to join Yobit as well. Just take the risk.

Also, I didn't mention anything about scam in Yobit. Seems like you misunderstood something.
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April 20, 2019, 06:33:53 AM
#49
~snip
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Unless you don't spam then you won't be called "Spammer". But have you guys didn't realised or notified something? Do you think 20 post per day is a good requirement for such campaign? You've been here for years but seems like you doesn't know anything about possible spam. By just observing their campaign I immediately noticed that it will only bring spam to the forum as there are no proper rules, proper requirements and designated number of participants for the campaign. Besides all of that you guys are still so proud to wear their signature.
If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure. Yobit having scam accusations didn't mean that they are really scammer.. Maybe they use '' selective scam '' but the scammed person's should shout out loud so we can hear them.. We never encourage scam and we never want to destroy our beloved Bitcointalk.. Even if I post 50 posts a day, I won't spam the forum and I will try my best to provide a good content here.. Just give us a chance to use their signature for the moment and if the other sig compaigns allows us to join and earn.. We would support em.. But many compaigns are providing unreal requirements.. We always put high efforts but no one ever gave us even 1 merit.(excuse me for being angry).. How the hell could us join good compaigns if they are putting hard requirements?.
We found out that Yobit's sig compaign is the only one gaving us that rate so we will wear the signature and support them because it's a win-win for us and for them. When talking about the fear of spamming the forum, the DT members could red-tag all the spammers if found.
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April 20, 2019, 06:10:37 AM
#48
Do you think 20 post per day is a good requirement for such campaign?
Where you see the 20 posts requirement of the project. They mentioned the highest 20 posts will be count. So if you count a single post then you will be paid for that. 20 posts are maximum not minimum.
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April 20, 2019, 06:06:11 AM
#47
~snip
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Unless you don't spam then you won't be called "Spammer". But have you guys didn't realised or notified something? Do you think 20 post per day is a good requirement for such campaign? You've been here for years but seems like you doesn't know anything about possible spam. By just observing their campaign I immediately noticed that it will only bring spam to the forum as there are no proper rules, proper requirements and designated number of participants for the campaign. Besides all of that you guys are still so proud to wear their signature.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 05:32:06 AM
#46
Seeing all those red-trusted users joining the campaign, i'm afraid that the tool which kept users out of prominent campaigns (DT tagging), is going to become useless.

Should we not actually give them a chance to prove themselves? See if they clamp down on the shitposters/spammers... before we start threatening to tag everyone involved? Huh
Knowing Yobit, and they way they operate their exchange, i really don't feel as if they deserve much of a chance.

They're a bunch of money-laundering scammers, who try to f* over anyone using their platform with useless ICO's, shittokens, frozen withdrawals/selective scamming, random coin delistings, internal server lag, pump and dumps (orchestrated by the adminstrators of the site themselves!), falsifying ticker names to defraud "ignorant" investors.. The list goes on and on.

Not to mention, they're running a LITERAL ponzi scheme on their website. https://yobit.net/en/investbox/
I thought users advertising ponzi schemes usually got tagged rather quickly?  Roll Eyes

EDIT: Holy shit these IEO's are a scam too. They're literal dogshit.


They can increase their advertising efforts all they want, i am DEFINITELY not touching their exchange with a ten-feet pole.


Not trying to moral-high horse anyone here for making a few bucks, but you got to draw a line somewhere, sometime.


legendary
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April 20, 2019, 05:16:58 AM
#45
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.
Same goes for me here. I used yobit and I always had my money in my pocket. I don't know if the DT members will redtag me for using the signature of yobit and I am asking for a clear instruction to be made.. Maybe PM us first or let us know.. Even now.. The situation is unknown. Yobit has some issues with some customers but I was never one of them so I trust them.. About the redtag.. Don't destroy peoples made accounts please.. Let us know and give us a chance first to remove the sig. Yobit having some scam accusation is normal.. It doesn't mean that they are scammers..if the peoples prove that it is scam.. I will delete the sig immediately.

Agree with you completely. I am using Yobit occasionally from last 4 years. I always get my withdrawals. Yesterday when I received their mail about campaign, I was to enthusiastic to join it. However, the daily limit of 20 posts are too much, I agree. But that's not necessary. Participants can do less than that and I am certainly ain't going to write anything above 10 a day.
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April 20, 2019, 04:33:57 AM
#44
When people will try to earn by creating spam post and the spam will happen for an increasing number of the post then they should be punished. Not all the participant only those people who will break forum rules should deserve a ban. And those people who will make any scam for which community will be looser then they should deserve the negative tag. So, for wearing signature of yobit participant can't deserve Negative tag until yobit proved as a scam exchange.
HCP
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April 20, 2019, 03:37:58 AM
#43
Just because everyone else seems to have condemned this entire campaign (and all the participants) before it has even really started... But did anyone actually bother to read the campaign ToS?

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★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

Any user who hasn't made a post in over a month will also be removed.

Should we not actually give them a chance to prove themselves? See if they clamp down on the shitposters/spammers... before we start threatening to tag everyone involved? Huh

Don't get me wrong... I'm not here to promote YoBit as the poster boy for campaign management... And chances are high that there will be some shitposters/spammers striving for the 20post/day "target"... But I think YoBit deserves to be given the opportunity to  demonstrate that they are capable of running a "forum friendly" campaign before just shitlisting the campaign and all the participants.
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April 20, 2019, 02:46:34 AM
#42
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.
Same goes for me here. I used yobit and I always had my money in my pocket. I don't know if the DT members will redtag me for using the signature of yobit and I am asking for a clear instruction to be made.. Maybe PM us first or let us know.. Even now.. The situation is unknown. Yobit has some issues with some customers but I was never one of them so I trust them.. About the redtag.. Don't destroy peoples made accounts please.. Let us know and give us a chance first to remove the sig. Yobit having some scam accusation is normal.. It doesn't mean that they are scammers..if the peoples prove that it is scam.. I will delete the sig immediately.
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April 20, 2019, 01:49:26 AM
#41
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.
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April 20, 2019, 01:04:02 AM
#40
For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse.
Not now. It should happen only when scam accusation on Yobit demonstrated that the Yobit exchange is truly a scam one. Maybe it is likely a scam one, but who knows.

More like you saying, ok lets all watch bitcoincash try success lets not call it a shitcoin until it demonstrate some quality of a shitcoin lol. The community have to learn that coming together and taking a decision as a community will send these scammers a strong message that, "the community is strong and will always unite to make a decision". but all they see are disagreement, greediness etc in the community that's why they take advantage of these weakness. Just because the exchange haven't scam others doesn't mean it isn't a scam exchange, their actions reported by numerous users speak for them and instead of them clearing the air on these accusations what do they do, they stay mute most time not even responding to a support ticket, email or tweet.

These guys don't have the best interest of the forum at hand and the best thing the forum can do is try to discourage her members from associating with the exchange. Don't forget the more (reputed) well known higher rank users wear their signature the more confident people think of giving this exchange a chance as clearly if you're smart you can make some money off the trading of shitcoins listed on the platform but this shouldn't be encouraged, it causes more damage than good. Posting of 20 meaningful post per day isn't hard I can do that but no matter how constructive I try to be that'll just be spamming. It won't be healthy to the forum making 170 posts weekly irrespective of how constructive you try to be.
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April 20, 2019, 12:30:06 AM
#39
I don't mean about instinctly shitposters whom mostly never change their posting habit, but you know what? There are real users, whom simply don't familiar with the forum, posting shit in their first days in the forum. For those kind of users, whom have good progressive attitude to change, like me, such neutral tags might help them to realise their faults, and they will change.
My neutral tag, years ago.  Undecided
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This user is a garbage shitposter who writes redundant posts in shitty English.
You might have changed, but others do not. I can count the number of users of which I have seen change their ways (ponzi supporter, red-trust users, or shitposters) on one hand. That's about as blunt as I can make it.

You speak from an ideal perspective. This world is not ideal.
For every user like you, there are thousands more that will refuse to change their ways. Why? Because it's easier. Because it's more profitable.

This is (in a sense) an example of survivor bias.
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April 20, 2019, 12:26:55 AM
#38
The neutral tag will be even less impactful and still take an equal amount of time that could be used to (instead) report posts.
I don't mean about instinctly shitposters whom mostly never change their posting habit, but you know what? There are real users, whom simply don't familiar with the forum, posting shit in their first days in the forum. For those kind of users, whom have good progressive attitude to change, like me, such neutral tags might help them to realise their faults, and they will change.
My neutral tag, years ago.  Undecided
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This user is a garbage shitposter who writes redundant posts in shitty English.
After received such neutral tag, I was shock, and collected these English books to improve.
Collections for someone who would like to improve English skills

To conclude, neutral tags on shitposters make sense (kind of help), if you have time to do it.
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April 20, 2019, 12:21:29 AM
#37
Leaving neutral tag on shit posters as early warning for them is good. Shit posters sooner or later will fall into burst posting or plagiarising, so if DT members tag them with neutral trust, and leave a warning mesage for them; they will keep their shit works. Eventually, someday, if they get punishments by plagiarism or something stupid, they won't have chance to blame on anyone else. Maybe, it is one of the way old users help newbies in the forum.
I used to tag spammers. Back in January of last year. That took a horrendous amount of time and I didn't even crack 1% of the total spammers on-forum.

The neutral tag will be even less impactful and still take an equal amount of time that could be used to (instead) report posts.
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April 20, 2019, 12:15:34 AM
#36
I'd prefer not to, and not just because spam is not a trust system issue.
Leaving neutral tag on shit posters as early warning for them is good. Shit posters sooner or later will fall into burst posting or plagiarising, so if DT members tag them with neutral trust, and leave a warning mesage for them; they will keep their shit works. Eventually, someday, if they get punishments by plagiarism or something stupid, they won't have chance to blame on anyone else. Maybe, it is one of the way old users help newbies in the forum.
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April 19, 2019, 11:57:45 PM
#35
I don't think there's a public list of participants, and I don't want to manually search for them. If you have a list of names or userIDs, I'll get you a list of their full Merit data.
Perhaps scrape from your list of users that have mentioned YoBit and check for "YoBit" in their signature class?
when in the user profile, or
(without curlies) in posts.

It won't be a conclusive list but it'll be a good start. Smiley

https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/ shows the signatures they're supposed to use so it can be detected quite accurately.
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April 19, 2019, 11:49:04 PM
#34
I don't think there's a public list of participants, and I don't want to manually search for them. If you have a list of names or userIDs, I'll get you a list of their full Merit data.
Perhaps scrape from your list of users that have mentioned YoBit and check for "YoBit" in their signature class?
when in the user profile, or
(without curlies) in posts.

It won't be a conclusive list but it'll be a good start. Smiley
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April 19, 2019, 11:46:39 PM
#33
Hey Loyce, any chance you can calculate the average earned merit of the Yobit campaign participants?
I don't think there's a public list of participants, and I don't want to manually search for them. If you have a list of names or userIDs, I'll get you a list of their full Merit data.
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April 19, 2019, 11:39:08 PM
#32
I'd say it's fair to go a step further and red-tag those extreme shitposters.  Maybe if a some others see the effects of incessant shitposting they'll clean up their act.

I'd prefer not to, and not just because spam is not a trust system issue. We're dealing with an entity that has nothing to lose on this forum and has no interest in it beyond using it for promotion, so if they get many red tags they might as well allow red-tagged users to continue in the campaign. Ideally this should be dealt with by banning offenders and perhaps banning the particular signature campaign if it gets really bad. I'm not counting on the latter though - our anarcho-capitalist-in-chief probably won't go that far.
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April 19, 2019, 11:18:56 PM
#31
what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

I wouldn't.  Even if they aren't a scam, there sure are a lot of accusations.  They kind of give me that ponzi vibe.  Maybe they're merely incompetent, or possibly a combination.  I wouldn't want to promote that, certainly not for pennies.


I follow Yobit because I have some shitcoins there, and I see peoples are still accusing them of this & that on TG but no response for them. So it's still the old Yobit, nothing has changed.

Their reputation is ruined, and it's largely because of their lack of customer support.  It seems like they pick and choose which issues to address.


Perhaps the way to deal with this would be to report shitposts to the campaign managers (either self-proclaimed ones here or to someone on Yobit) and if they don't take action, which they most likely won't, then report it to moderators as "low effort incentivized spamming" with proof of the above. I know it's a complicated two-step process but if that works then perhaps the whole campaign can be shitcanned if it's proven that they don't control it, instead of fighting thousands of individual posts. Or if I'm wrong and they do control it and kick the abusers out of the campaign - good too.

Sounds like a plan.  I'd say it's fair to go a step further and red-tag those extreme shitposters.  Maybe if a some others see the effects of incessant shitposting they'll clean up their act.


Shhhh... Alas you've broken the code.

Oops, please excuse my transgression.  BTW, safety meeting in the garage in 5 minutes.  
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April 19, 2019, 09:43:07 PM
#30
If any company scams (just like if BitCloak - your signature - scams), of course people should cease wearing/advertising for them.
This is why I wrote this part:
I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.
At least, Yobit team should act like this, in my opinion (maybe I am wrong).  Smiley
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April 19, 2019, 09:25:33 PM
#29
For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse.
Not now. It should happen only when scam accusation on Yobit demonstrated that the Yobit exchange is truly a scam one. I don't like Yobit, but I used the exchange more than one year ago, then I left their exchange so far. Maybe it is likely a scam one, but who knows. Especially when all scam accusations on them have not ended with scam accusations proved, it will be unfair to tag their supporters with negative trust.
Months ago, I witnessed the Duck Dice campaign, that was warned as scam, and the bounty' OP tagged by DT members. And, even when the DuckDice proved as scam, DT members allow their supporters 24 or 72 hours to remove DuckDice signature before starting to tag them with negative trust.
Seems Duck Dice have tagged from multiple DT members due to open scam accusation long time ago. Just noticed it from gambling section. On the other hand they have created new account yesterday Duck Dice PR and announced a signature campaign. No issue with signature campaign due they have used escrow service from forum.

Issue with website and their main account for open scam accusation which has got tag. So what about new account? It shouldn't be tag since its directly hosted with Duck Dice ? Red tag has given against of website as well, not only to user account.


Need opinions...

DuckDice was never "proved as a scam", lots of misinformation was spread (I was not around, but from what I read this is the conclusion). Their provably fair is still valid (last I checked for myself).

If any company scams (just like if BitCloak - your signature - scams), of course people should cease wearing/advertising for them.
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April 19, 2019, 09:22:10 PM
#28
For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse.
Not now. It should happen only when scam accusation on Yobit demonstrated that the Yobit exchange is truly a scam one. Maybe it is likely a scam one, but who knows. Especially when all scam accusations on them have not ended with scam accusations proved, it will be unfair to tag their supporters with negative trust.
Months ago, I witnessed the Duck Dice campaign, that was warned as scam, and the bounty' OP tagged by DT members. And, even when the DuckDice proved as scam, DT members allow their supporters 24 or 72 hours to remove DuckDice signature before starting to tag them with negative trust.

I used the exchange more than one year ago,but I don't like it. Then made my personal decision to leave their exchange so far. Everyone has personal choice and decision, just let them free.
Seems Duck Dice have tagged from multiple DT members due to open scam accusation long time ago. Just noticed it from gambling section. On the other hand they have created new account yesterday Duck Dice PR and announced a signature campaign. No issue with signature campaign due they have used escrow service from forum.

Issue with website and their main account for open scam accusation which has got tag. So what about new account? It shouldn't be tag since its directly hosted with Duck Dice ? Red tag has given against of website as well, not only to user account.


Need opinions...

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Please don't apply this signature, may be DT will tag your account. Whoever currently wearing signature please remove within 72 hours  otherwise may be you will got tag. Do not apply until solve accusation. OP and Escrow holder already got tag.
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April 19, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
#27
If you're not spamming - this campaign is the equivalent to every other campaign, Stake, etc. The reason they've come back I think is thanks to their recent IEO's (they've raise 100+ BTC essentially by selling non-tokens..).
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April 19, 2019, 07:55:47 PM
#26
My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?
I'd say DT should tag everyone who joins their signature campaign as they're technically a scam. Maybe they will take the accusations seriously then.

Also on a side note, I have sent a support message on their platform voicing my concerns of having no official manager or at least spam checker to watch over participants.
I think no reputed person will be interested in doing that since they will be taking a risk of managing a scam service which can end up in negative feedback for the manager.
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April 19, 2019, 07:55:32 PM
#25
Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Perhaps the way to deal with this would be to report shitposts to the campaign managers (either self-proclaimed ones here or to someone on Yobit) and if they don't take action, which they most likely won't, then report it to moderators as "low effort incentivized spamming" with proof of the above. I know it's a complicated two-step process but if that works then perhaps the whole campaign can be shitcanned if it's proven that they don't control it, instead of fighting thousands of individual posts. Or if I'm wrong and they do control it and kick the abusers out of the campaign - good too.
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April 19, 2019, 07:46:51 PM
#24
Essentially those that wear the signature are promoting scams if the accusations hold true. We would also be promoting spam IMO.
I follow Yobit because I have some shitcoins there, and I see peoples are still accusing them of this & that on TG but no response for them. So it's still the old Yobit, nothing has changed.


I have somewhat considered joining(unsure of if I want to since I make 10 posts a week usually but with btc on the rise a few pennies might be nice) but would like opinions before testing the waters.
Are you sure? You will be lost in Spam Sea  Cheesy
and we will really miss you.


Also on a side note, I have sent a support message on their platform voicing my concerns of having no official manager or at least spam checker to watch over participants.
You may get a reply like "God will check spam and watch over participants", so prepare yourself.  Cheesy
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April 19, 2019, 07:44:04 PM
#23
My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse. I mean is no longer a news on how yobit scam her customers and with all the scam accusation they have on the forum, the exchange is not worth promoting.

Clearly the exchange doesn't have the best interest of the forum at hand and anyone supporting them doesn't too. I get it they didn't mean for everyone to make 20 post per day (it was just a maximum pay limit) but when a limit is set naturally participants tends to meet that limit that's everyone will be targeting a post count of 20 per day that's 170 per week. Which will be taking us backwards in regards to eliminating spam on the forum. I suggested something earlier I know it's not the best but;

Are they paying red tagged users also? If no then tagging every user seen wearing the signature and majority of their post are just off topic or spam can reduce their effect on the forum. I don't have a problem with getting paid for quality contribution but to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read the number one Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign. these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

PS: I know the trust system wasn't meant for spam but if this can solve the problem for the meantime while we search for better solution then I feel it's ok. Reporting to moderator can't be a permanent solution (that'll create more workload) maybe banning or removing the privilege to wear signature on account caught abusing the campaign could work.
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April 19, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
#22
My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

Essentially those that wear the signature are promoting scams if the accusations hold true. We would also be promoting spam IMO.

I have somewhat considered joining(unsure of if I want to since I make 10 posts a week usually but with btc on the rise a few pennies might be nice) but would like opinions before testing the waters.

Also on a side note, I have sent a support message on their platform voicing my concerns of having no official manager or at least spam checker to watch over participants.
legendary
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April 19, 2019, 06:18:00 PM
#21
Looks like anyone can be the campaign manager for Yoshit Sig Campaign. So far found 2 members announced in the service section.

When the Campaign [ANN] is already duplicate thread spam... You might be in a shitposting campaign (Jeff Foxworthy voice)

Does this mean we're witnessing the start of another bubble? I was kinda getting used to the less-than-50k-posts-a-day version of Bitcointalk.

Funny you mention this I have seen a small increase in newbies to mining, and I thought maybe the price bump helped that out. Though I'd happily field an abundance of intro to mining questions. Really the comparison is Apples to ...well shit posts.

Oregano?  Who the fuck smokes oregano?  I thought we were talking about Marijuana.   Kiss
BTW, I'm from NorCal; our flowering plants with psychotropic properties are the envy of the galaxy.

Shhhh, the morality police will show up and tell us what's legal to us is illegal because they disagree. Alas you've broken the code. I've actually watched a ton of Docs and clips of the history around the California Growing, kinda like the modern day Wild West at times.

Gladly. I hear a certain someone is also producing some herbs as well Smiley

Must be nice for them to be treated like an adult in their province. We can't be trusted to grow a plant here  Roll Eyes Feel free to hit me up anytime.
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April 19, 2019, 05:25:29 PM
#20
Hey Loyce, any chance you can calculate the average earned merit of the Yobit campaign participants?  Purely to satisfy my curiosity. 

Side note we could happily send packages of Oregano back and forth while making others jelly.

Oregano?  Who the fuck smokes oregano?  I thought we were talking about Marijuana.   Kiss

BTW, I'm from NorCal; our flowering plants with psychotropic properties are the envy of the galaxy.

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April 19, 2019, 05:12:32 PM
#19
Looks like anyone can be the campaign manager for Yoshit Sig Campaign. So far found 2 members announced in the service section.

YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)

🔷 YoBit.Net SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN 🔷
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April 19, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
#18
Oh, brace yourselves, spammers is coming. I've been in Yobit campaign since 2016 and I remember how bad everything was back then until hilariousandco started to manage campaign and banned most of spammers from campaign. From what I see now, things doesn't looks good - I see plenty of users with 0 or very few earned merits or even with negative trust wearing Yobit signatures. And some of them definitely will try to hit 20posts/day limit. It's interesting how many slots for participants is available in this campaign.
I don't know what's with this campaign before but all possible effect that it might bring is huge spam to the forum. Greedy participants will surely try their best and force their limit just to make 20 posts per day even though the quality isn't enough to be considered as a Good quality post. Do campaign like this really allowed to run? This is the first campaign I've ever seen that has overkill posts requirement. It seems to be just fine but I feel like it's forcing their participants to spam all over the forum.

Luckily the campaign only accepts Sr. Member and above but who knows if some of those participants lose their post quality just to get paid. But there are surely lot of Newbies who will try to promote that campaign which will lead to spam.
Forum rules doesn't regulate signature campaigns. So, 20 or even 50 posts is OK as long as you're not breaking forum rules. Nobody can force you to make so many posts per day, I rarely make more than 5-6 posts per day. Offcourse, if you come here to earn for a living, then you're "forced" to reach 20 posts limit.
I don't understand your last sentence. Only Sr. Members and above are accepted, so how Newbies can try to promote campaign? Or you're talking about bought accounts?
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April 19, 2019, 03:40:05 PM
#17
You should overthink your list.
I've added a disclaimer, being on that list doesn't mean you're a spammer, but it's a good start if someone wants to hunt yobit spammers. My LoyceMobile is on the list too Tongue
tyz
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April 19, 2019, 03:38:12 PM
#16
I noticed several threads on YoBit already, including Brand new accounts bumping them.
-snip-

You should overthink your list. A few minutes before you posted the list I wrote a post in German section that includes "Yobit". However, the post is by no means positive but rather warns to be active there.

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April 19, 2019, 03:30:33 PM
#15
I don't know what's with this campaign before but all possible effect that it might bring is huge spam to the forum. Greedy participants will surely try their best and force their limit just to make 20 posts per day even though the quality isn't enough to be considered as a Good quality post. Do campaign like this really allowed to run? This is the first campaign I've ever seen that has overkill posts requirement. It seems to be just fine but I feel like it's forcing their participants to spam all over the forum.

Luckily the campaign only accepts Sr. Member and above but who knows if some of those participants lose their post quality just to get paid. But there are surely lot of Newbies who will try to promote that campaign which will lead to spam.

~snip
I don't think that Filipinos are already aware of it but no doubt they'll found it out later on. So sad.  Sad

snip...
I don't understand your last sentence. Only Sr. Members and above are accepted, so how Newbies can try to promote campaign? Or you're talking about bought accounts?
There is an active running referral program with Yobit, offering 20% of comission for every trade the referral makes.
Yesterday, i reported two threads of two newbie accounts (guess they are alts) in my local board.
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April 19, 2019, 03:24:31 PM
#14
140 posts a week one way or another going to lead to a lot of spamming and shitposts, at the very least if you are a decent poster it will make you create lower quality posts or unnessary posts overall.

IMO anything more than 10 posts a day maximum will make the forum full of low quality posts here and there, there are some exceptions in users that can manage to post more than 10 high quality posts a day but I'd say it's rare.

Just hope this sig campaign doesn't make the forum full of shitposts to the point that you have to actually look for a high quality post among countless spams in every single thread...
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April 19, 2019, 03:14:18 PM
#13
I noticed several threads on YoBit already, including Brand new accounts bumping them.

These users have posted the word "yobit" today (note: this doesn't mean they're all spammers!):
     1.sergiorus
     2.shimbark123
     3.khaled0111
     4.kutok22
     5.Matthias9515
     6.2run
     7.sangjoewara
     8.Xal0lex
     9.yazher
    10.PHI1618
    11.lossnet
    12.okala
    13.Steamtyme
    14.LbtalkL
    15.MaxBro
    16.palle11
    17.christian29
    18.Parodium
    19.sheenshane
    20.vycl87
    21.vamp8
    22.fooxtukil
    23.tranthidung
    24.Pattart
    25.gospodin
    26.Findingnemo
    27.carter34
    28.erikalui
    29.mdayonliner
    30.r1s2g3
    31.marcotheminer
    32.XZERO1
    33.Anonylz
    34.tyz
    35.TheNewAnon135246
    36.skiper
    37.ripplecanavari
    38.safar1980
    39.cogentjm
    40.cryptovigi
    41.Andrew_S
    42.TopTort777
    43.Avirunes
    44.bychemist32
    45.mindrust
    46.Neo.op
    47.ugurum15
    48.leeking1
    49.LoyceMobile
    50.reda
    51.freim
    52.DireWolfM14
    53.julioalejandrogj
    54.manfredmann
    55.SmashDestroy
    56.wxcvbn
    57.S1r_MaK1auT
    58.Sergey71
    59.freegold
    60.Prott
    61.bbvedf
    62.iskendercnr
    63.yaviz0002
    64.Vivek96771244
    65.tmlksck
    66.sernofus
    67.Maggiordomo
    68.suchmoon
    69.pumpolymp
    70.kartepe
    71.caralegal
    72.Kavelj22
    73.tufan01
    74.Ramez1983
    75.amellst
    76.YOBVAS
    77.YobitUltraMod
    78.johnniecrypto
    79.viruz02
    80.Chaka2002
    81.scar313
    82.afiftitah
    83.Notlobby
    84.abhay108
    85.vetal3783
    86.ahmed khadr
    87.bba1044
    88.manuelitos0020
    89.rockethead
    90.andreibi
    91.Vod
    92.Kepasa
    93.examplens
    94.seoincorporation
    95.A-Bolt
    96.Danslip
    97.lab rat hoax
    98.yahoo62278
    99.Patatas
   100.sonerbo
   101.killyou72
   102.Bitinity
   103.coupable
   104.actmyname
   105.The Pharmacist
   106.wiesen
   107.dannybrown
   108.Lucius
   109.LTU_btc
   110.jak3
   111.jakelyson
   112.bileq
   113.Egor_Kabaev
   114.nor9845
   115.electronicash
   116.dunfida
   117.Lanatsa
   118.Muhtaixa
   119.Ziskinberg
   120.BitcoinSupremo
   121.Remainder
   122.markiz73
   123.hulla
   124.bittraffic
   125.Wassopotamia
   126.EpyxZ
   127.bct2
   128.carlisle1
   129.aioc
   130.DarkNightRider
   131.posi
   132.TheUltraElite
   133.Shneks
   134.Xinarae*
   135.fudster
   136.Experia
   137.botatrada
   138.FaucetKING
   139.Xenrise
   140.Okuzgozu
   141.sujonali1819
   142.Saint-loup
   143.tayfundeniz
   144.finzyoj

Spam War has already started, prepare to fight against them. A nice example of what we will be expecting, taken from here.
I've seen another one that stopped posting the moment he hit 20 posts.
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April 19, 2019, 03:13:15 PM
#12
Spam War has already started, prepare to fight against them. A nice example of what we will be expecting, taken from here.

Gear Up!



edit:
20 posts per day seems an easy task like 1..2..3 for some members here.
When I participated in Yobit campaign back in 2016, it was very hard for me to even make 6 posts per day, same as now.



I've seen another one that stopped posting the moment he hit 20 posts.
We will almost not find any quality posts, it will be lost under tons of garbage from now on.
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April 19, 2019, 03:08:58 PM
#11
I just reported two threads on my local board started by newbies promoting their YoBit referral links.
It seems that tough times await mods.
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April 19, 2019, 03:05:55 PM
#10
Does this mean we're witnessing the start of another bubble? I was kinda getting used to the less-than-50k-posts-a-day version of Bitcointalk.
Yeah, this is how the Philippines & Indonesian army is gearing up at the moment.


Context:

YoBit campaign has restarted and there is no thread. They sent emails to announce the beginning of their campaign, which has a reward that maximizes at 20 posts/day. This is just calling for spam.
Well, prepare yourself bois, you gotta a shit ton of reporting to do. Also, I feel so left out since they keep spamming me with their ICO and other events in my email but no notification was sent regarding this. Sad
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April 19, 2019, 02:50:27 PM
#9
Does this mean we're witnessing the start of another bubble? I was kinda getting used to the less-than-50k-posts-a-day version of Bitcointalk.
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April 19, 2019, 02:50:06 PM
#8
How did they compare to Stake.com?
Stake >>>>>> YoBit by far. Not sure how secondstrade fits on the metric however the latter two produce the most spam mostly due to their apparent limitless cap on members and disregard for post quality.

You cannot expect every member to be able to post up to 20 posts per day without it impacting their post quality.

If the upper limit means that you compromise quality then you should lower it, duh.

Side note we could happily send packages of Oregano back and forth while making others jelly.
Gladly. I hear a certain someone is also producing some herbs as well Smiley
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April 19, 2019, 02:48:48 PM
#7
Well written, a little to grounded in realism. So I take it anyone that Yobit had an email for got the invite to this quality creation opportunity.

I wonder how long before I see them in my reported posts, might be nice to change up what I'm seeing.



Side note we could happily send packages of Oregano back and forth while making others jelly.
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April 19, 2019, 02:37:07 PM
#6
~I'm not saying this is great news for the forum if they're restarting their campaign, because their last one contained some of the worst shitposters imaginable and they would accept anyone with a beating heart and working thumbs.  The campaigners were almost as bad as the ones in Secondstrade (remember them?).

How did they compare to Stake.com?

I wasn't around for the Yobit fiasco, but I've read enough to concluded it was a shitshow.  I'm wondering if it's allowed to manage a Bitcointalk.org sig campaign off site like this.  I don't see any rules that it would effectively break, but it seems like a way to avoid some accountability.


BTW actmyname, can you pass me some of what you're smoking?

I'll be over here on The Pharmacist's left hand side.
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Spear the bees
April 19, 2019, 02:35:10 PM
#5
Hey, I used to love being in the Yobit signature campaign!
You and I both, but that was a time I would rather not remember.

BTW actmyname, can you pass me some of what you're smoking?
Sorry, US customs apparently doesn't like oregano crossing their borders but they're OK with charging $600 per pack of insulin.
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April 19, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
#4
Hey, I used to love being in the Yobit signature campaign!  The best part about it was that they paid out for posts within a few hours of making them, which was great for an instant gratification seeking person like myself.

Now I'm not saying this is great news for the forum if they're restarting their campaign, because their last one contained some of the worst shitposters imaginable and they would accept anyone with a beating heart and working thumbs.  The campaigners were almost as bad as the ones in Secondstrade (remember them?).

And Yobit will still remain an extremely sketchy exchange no matter how much promotion they do.  If they improved their customer service and had a lot more transparency as to who they are, that might restore some confidence in their customers--but I doubt any of that is going to change.

BTW actmyname, can you pass me some of what you're smoking?
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April 19, 2019, 02:22:33 PM
#3
Here is a link to their campaign: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/
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April 19, 2019, 02:19:44 PM
#2
Context:

YoBit campaign has restarted and there is no thread. They sent emails to announce the beginning of their campaign, which has a reward that maximizes at 20 posts/day. This is just calling for spam.
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April 19, 2019, 02:17:55 PM
#1
For a time it had seemed that their savior was gone.

It had been three days (give or take a few many months) since the vanquishment of the Lord, YoBit.
YoBit had been ostracized, attacked, and relentlessly punished savagely by the masters of the domain: the DT-gang.

Exiled from the realm, YoBit had essentially perished... but would return, stronger than ever.

Blasting forth from the heavens, YoBit's will carried on! For they would not rescue the s-posters from within the realm controlled by malicious entities... no.

They would send messages from outside of the s-poster realm of existence, outside of the master's controls, through their prayers and directly into their inboxes of various email providers.

"A new campaign has started."
Welcome to the Crusade.
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