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The crazy part is that Trudeau is merely a pawn in the hands of the World Economic Forum (WEF) along with Chrystia Freeland. Sure he wants power and he certainly is not sorry about it.


A Canadian MP called this out and was told they were promoting "open disinformation" when you can look it up:

https://twitter.com/TrueNorthCentre/status/1495124955859668992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1495124955859668992%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1


Klaus Schwab the head of the World Economic Forum (WEF) has Trudeau in his pocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbVD4tB4cVQ


Further: Klaus Schwab on Trudeau's loyalty to the World Economic Forum & not to the Canadian people.

https://twitter.com/TheNo1Waffler/status/1493702862471323661?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1493702862471323661%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1


So basically if the real police had any ball they would drag Trudeau out, throw him in jail for crimes of treason. Same could be said for our senile, corrupt overlord here in the States: Joe Biden.


So the hierarchy goes from left to right: Klaus Schwab -> Chrystia Freeland -> Justin Trudeau. More on Freeland from WEF:

https://www.weforum.org/people/chrystia-freeland


This is the same World Economic Forum that proposes that you own nothing and are happy in the near future (2030) hmmm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zUjsEaKbkM
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Trudeau has sanctioned a number of "crypto wallets" that are associated with the Freedom convoy.

It appears that Trudeau wants to follow in the steps of his father, Fidel Castro, and to stomp out any dissent, along with disregard any civil liberties of his people.
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https://www.dw.com/en/canada-pm-trudeau-invokes-emergency-powers-to-deal-with-protests/a-60777581

Trudeau getting a bit nervous and invokes Emergencies Act to delegate himself more power and deal with the protests. Keep in mind the absuridity of his claims -- Trudeau seems to believe that truckers should face a vaccine mandate, despite trucking being one of the most isolated occupations aside from remote work online. Truckers are rightfully upset, and in response to governmental overreach, Trudeau has decided that he needs even more authority.

I was going to post this the other day but didn't get around to it:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/canada-invokes-emergencies-act-targeting-crowdfunding-and-crypto

I could have sworn this article was worded differently the other day maybe Trudeau had a good talking with CoinTelegraph, eh?
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https://www.dw.com/en/canada-pm-trudeau-invokes-emergency-powers-to-deal-with-protests/a-60777581

Trudeau getting a bit nervous and invokes Emergencies Act to delegate himself more power and deal with the protests. Keep in mind the absuridity of his claims -- Trudeau seems to believe that truckers should face a vaccine mandate, despite trucking being one of the most isolated occupations aside from remote work online. Truckers are rightfully upset, and in response to governmental overreach, Trudeau has decided that he needs even more authority.
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this is cancer culture. it's just what is going on to organizations that defy the government's mandate for vaccine passports. it's been a while already but cancel culture is very widespread today. Facebook preventing the people from seeing American Trucker and Canadian truckers protesting this legislation is like having a Chinese authoritarian government.

joe rogan is just an example with Spotify recently which he was also protested by a few artists because he is spreading misinformation. neil yong a rock Star protested against Rogan be banned from Spotify. upon checking Young's background turned out he is being paid by Pfizer CEO and big pharmas.

Ever hear of the Streisand Effect? The establishment's relentless efforts to deplatform dissidents is only going to spur anyone with half a brain to wonder just what it is they're trying to conceal.
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Well true, this is just one insignificant country (Philippines). The government here has finally caught up to the rest of ASEAN in requiring prepaid SIMS to be registered upon purchase (ratified it like just 2 days ago) and they are then gonna require social media sites to ask for a mobile number (and an ID) upon account creation. The rationale is that trolls could be tracked when making multiple accounts but as you said, implementation is probably going to be spotty.

So I think it's just us poorer folks who might be disadvantaged at losing some anonymity for stuff like dissent. Trolls spreading misinformation is indeed a big problem but what I think is really the problem is that regulations are not often applied equally to all users.
Social media companies stopped responding to requests for information from the Hong Kong Chinese government after Hong Kong implemented one of its "national security" laws. If the Philippines government were to crack down on dissent on any major scale, hopefully, social media companies would not give that information. Obviously, if social media companies had to give the government the mobile number and ID of new accounts as they are created, that would create a different issue.

I don't think troll accounts are created individually though. I think it is more likely that bots are used to create accounts at scale that could trivially get around any geographical restrictions.

Though I don't trust social media giants that much, I'd definitely be thankful if they oppose this. Also I don't know the legality but I think it would be a breach of confidentiality if they handed over those personal details of existing accounts so at least those are safe I think. It's really the new accounts that might needed to be created that's the problem.

As for troll account those get created individually in some instances as I saw in a documentary. Those individuals would use one or 2 accounts and engage. For copy+paste spams I'm assuming those are separate automated accounts.
Social media companies routinely provide information to law enforcement about accounts in response to things like search warrants (or the jurisdictional equivalent). So if social media companies are collecting information, or if they have information, there is the risk that it will be disclosed to a government.
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Well true, this is just one insignificant country (Philippines). The government here has finally caught up to the rest of ASEAN in requiring prepaid SIMS to be registered upon purchase (ratified it like just 2 days ago) and they are then gonna require social media sites to ask for a mobile number (and an ID) upon account creation. The rationale is that trolls could be tracked when making multiple accounts but as you said, implementation is probably going to be spotty.

So I think it's just us poorer folks who might be disadvantaged at losing some anonymity for stuff like dissent. Trolls spreading misinformation is indeed a big problem but what I think is really the problem is that regulations are not often applied equally to all users.
Social media companies stopped responding to requests for information from the Hong Kong Chinese government after Hong Kong implemented one of its "national security" laws. If the Philippines government were to crack down on dissent on any major scale, hopefully, social media companies would not give that information. Obviously, if social media companies had to give the government the mobile number and ID of new accounts as they are created, that would create a different issue.

I don't think troll accounts are created individually though. I think it is more likely that bots are used to create accounts at scale that could trivially get around any geographical restrictions.

Though I don't trust social media giants that much, I'd definitely be thankful if they oppose this. Also I don't know the legality but I think it would be a breach of confidentiality if they handed over those personal details of existing accounts so at least those are safe I think. It's really the new accounts that might needed to be created that's the problem.

As for troll account those get created individually in some instances as I saw in a documentary. Those individuals would use one or 2 accounts and engage. For copy+paste spams I'm assuming those are separate automated accounts.
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About governments doing something about them, they are getting there, although slowly and not exactly in the best path. For example in my country they are going to require social media companies to do identity checks first when creating a new account. As you can probably tell already this would also lead to other problems but I can just imagine that they will start asking more from these companies.
I don't think requiring identity checks would do much to solve the problems that social media sites create. If this is not a worldwide requirement, someone could just use a VPN to appear to be registering from another country.

Well true, this is just one insignificant country (Philippines). The government here has finally caught up to the rest of ASEAN in requiring prepaid SIMS to be registered upon purchase (ratified it like just 2 days ago) and they are then gonna require social media sites to ask for a mobile number (and an ID) upon account creation. The rationale is that trolls could be tracked when making multiple accounts but as you said, implementation is probably going to be spotty.

So I think it's just us poorer folks who might be disadvantaged at losing some anonymity for stuff like dissent. Trolls spreading misinformation is indeed a big problem but what I think is really the problem is that regulations are not often applied equally to all users.
Social media companies stopped responding to requests for information from the Hong Kong Chinese government after Hong Kong implemented one of its "national security" laws. If the Philippines government were to crack down on dissent on any major scale, hopefully, social media companies would not give that information. Obviously, if social media companies had to give the government the mobile number and ID of new accounts as they are created, that would create a different issue.

I don't think troll accounts are created individually though. I think it is more likely that bots are used to create accounts at scale that could trivially get around any geographical restrictions.
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I tend to feel it would be better to educate people on how to analyze information and discriminate out obvious deceit, fraud, half-truths, etc.  Basically to be less trustful and more discerning.  

Good luck with this though. There's no way that's happening here. Just the amount of idiocy during election seasons is cringe enough, like those idiots last nationals who insist Lee Kwan Yu was endorsing the then candidate-now-end-of-term dude just because they saw a quote on FB.  Angry

Now what makes us think these guys are gonna cut back on "fake news" once they are in office if it helped get them there in the first place?

As I said, I don't think that there is much hope of that.  If there is any hope whatsoever, it will fall to others to be the driving force...at significant and growing risk unfortunatly.  Maybe people like you (if you yourself stop drinking the kool-aid so much become a little more sensible about certain of your policy prescriptions.)

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I tend to feel it would be better to educate people on how to analyze information and discriminate out obvious deceit, fraud, half-truths, etc.  Basically to be less trustful and more discerning.  

Good luck with this though. There's no way that's happening here. Just the amount of idiocy during election seasons is cringe enough, like those idiots last nationals who insist Lee Kwan Yu was endorsing the then candidate-now-end-of-term dude just because they saw a quote on FB.  Angry

Now what makes us think these guys are gonna cut back on "fake news" once they are in office if it helped get them there in the first place?
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Well true, this is just one insignificant country (Philippines). The government here has finally caught up to the rest of ASEAN in requiring prepaid SIMS to be registered upon purchase (ratified it like just 2 days ago) and they are then gonna require social media sites to ask for a mobile number (and an ID) upon account creation. The rationale is that trolls could be tracked when making multiple accounts but as you said, implementation is probably going to be spotty.

In a country where extra-judicial killings for a variety of reasons (including that the judicial system is nearly useless in a lot of cases involving the oligarchy) are the norm, this will pretty much guarantee that nobody criticizes those who are in power or might someday be.  Not seriously at least.

Of course the winners who's detractors will be shut up will be the ones who have (or obtain) enough power to induce the telco's to cough up the de-anonymizing data.  They swear up and down that it won't be abused, but of course what else would they say?

So I think it's just us poorer folks who might be disadvantaged at losing some anonymity for stuff like dissent. Trolls spreading misinformation is indeed a big problem but what I think is really the problem is that regulations are not often applied equally to all users.

I tend to feel it would be better to educate people on how to analyze information and discriminate out obvious deceit, fraud, half-truths, etc.  Basically to be less trustful and more discerning.  There is no way TPTB are going to put any focus on that, however, because it would cut their own legs out from underneath of them as they try to govern.  It would completely collapse the media as well for the same reason.

The government doesn't have any interest in getting rid of scamming, fraud, etc.  They just want a monopolize on it.  A flock of trusting sheep is not something they want; it's something they NEED.

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About governments doing something about them, they are getting there, although slowly and not exactly in the best path. For example in my country they are going to require social media companies to do identity checks first when creating a new account. As you can probably tell already this would also lead to other problems but I can just imagine that they will start asking more from these companies.
I don't think requiring identity checks would do much to solve the problems that social media sites create. If this is not a worldwide requirement, someone could just use a VPN to appear to be registering from another country.

Well true, this is just one insignificant country (Philippines). The government here has finally caught up to the rest of ASEAN in requiring prepaid SIMS to be registered upon purchase (ratified it like just 2 days ago) and they are then gonna require social media sites to ask for a mobile number (and an ID) upon account creation. The rationale is that trolls could be tracked when making multiple accounts but as you said, implementation is probably going to be spotty.

So I think it's just us poorer folks who might be disadvantaged at losing some anonymity for stuff like dissent. Trolls spreading misinformation is indeed a big problem but what I think is really the problem is that regulations are not often applied equally to all users.
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So an investment bank owns half of Neil Young's catalog hmm I wonder what his interests really are? Whatever Blackstone tell him. Its not so much that they are undercover drug reps its just that investment banks own them with the FED Stamps that we both despise.

I assume his interests were in selling his back catalogue in order to make some money. It doesn't mean he has ties to them, or does 'whatever they tell him'.
I mean, I've sold stuff before. What happens is the person gets my stuff, I get their money, and neither of us ever meets or has any dealings with each other again. Certainly neither of us 'owns' the other merely because a trade has been completed.


Haven't you heard the saying "follow the money"? Ok Neil Young received Money from this company that is now part of Blackstone (the company buying up everything, houses, companies, etc.). So "money" can have strings attached just like anything. People confuse money for cash (direct fiat) when money can mean anything (BTC, stocks, metals, etc.). Therefore, I think Neil Young was given some cash for his albums but I'm sure they may have also offered stock in their company as that can be considered money which would tie Young to that company which is ie owned by Blackstone (perhaps he now owns stock in Blackstone is what I'm saying). Or just like money I'm sure Blackstone has offered Young cheap loans with strings attached. Young isn't a pharma agent as you say but an agent of a bigger conglomerate that owns stock in pharma and other interests. In other words, if you can take anything from what I've said its all about "obfuscation" through their corporate conjoined elements that must be sifted through. Basically you have to dig for the truth. The world isn't all laid out to you via the Mainstream media on a silver platter. What could be ironic is how all these hippie and 70s acts once rallied against the man are now in bed with him. Its funny once people get their bilk how they turn on those who made them what they are.  
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It appears that Facebook (now Meta) is trying to appease the party in power of government, which it appears they have a history of doing (along with trying to appease the party they believe will land itself in power). I think this is a mistake, and will likely result in Meta on a negative end of regulation by (former) opposition parties around the world. In the past, throughout the world, Facebook (and other major US tech companies) have enjoyed serious advantages as a result of their "first mover" status, however I think governments will start to put their thumb on the scale against Facebook (and other major tech companies) over time if Facebook continues to support the party in power, rather than trying to be a neutral entity.

Have they been this obedient with Trump though? Yes tech companies would suck up to government if they can but from just looking at what they do you can see they heavily favor a particular ideology/party.
Facebook initially, correctly said that the Russian bots on Facebook had received nearly zero views by Americans prior to the 2016 election. They later changed this stance, likely when they started to belive that Democrats would come into power in Congress in 2018.

Facebook also has a history of bending the rules to in-power-party members of the government in India.
About governments doing something about them, they are getting there, although slowly and not exactly in the best path. For example in my country they are going to require social media companies to do identity checks first when creating a new account. As you can probably tell already this would also lead to other problems but I can just imagine that they will start asking more from these companies.
I don't think requiring identity checks would do much to solve the problems that social media sites create. If this is not a worldwide requirement, someone could just use a VPN to appear to be registering from another country.
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What a surprise (to no one).

Gofundme has banned the 10 million dollar Canadian trucker convoy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267840

Not only this, but you have to fill out a request form in order to get your money back. Some people might not even know the funds are not going to the truckers, and refunds will not be issued automatically. So Gofundme can dump whatever money they want into any organization of their choosing.

They cite reports by the police of violence. I'm certainly confident in Gofundme's ability to assess reports of violence while in search of any excuse to withhold 10 million USD.
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They have every right to oppose those mandates and shame on Facebook/Meta for this, citing violations on their rather ambiguous guidelines but what were we expecting from Zuckerburger. Expect this to be the routine whenever someone organize some protest against the leftist governments.

It appears that Facebook (now Meta) is trying to appease the party in power of government, which it appears they have a history of doing (along with trying to appease the party they believe will land itself in power). I think this is a mistake, and will likely result in Meta on a negative end of regulation by (former) opposition parties around the world. In the past, throughout the world, Facebook (and other major US tech companies) have enjoyed serious advantages as a result of their "first mover" status, however I think governments will start to put their thumb on the scale against Facebook (and other major tech companies) over time if Facebook continues to support the party in power, rather than trying to be a neutral entity.

Have they been this obedient with Trump though? Yes tech companies would suck up to government if they can but from just looking at what they do you can see they heavily favor a particular ideology/party.

About governments doing something about them, they are getting there, although slowly and not exactly in the best path. For example in my country they are going to require social media companies to do identity checks first when creating a new account. As you can probably tell already this would also lead to other problems but I can just imagine that they will start asking more from these companies.
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I think there is only one point in this world where we can find agreement in this world @Cnut237 and I want to believe that is in crypto becoming the future currency as people reject fiat currency that is pumped in by the big banks and elites.

We can certainly agree on that, yes.  Smiley


So an investment bank owns half of Neil Young's catalog hmm I wonder what his interests really are? Whatever Blackstone tell him. Its not so much that they are undercover drug reps its just that investment banks own them with the FED Stamps that we both despise.

I assume his interests were in selling his back catalogue in order to make some money. It doesn't mean he has ties to them, or does 'whatever they tell him'.
I mean, I've sold stuff before. What happens is the person gets my stuff, I get their money, and neither of us ever meets or has any dealings with each other again. Certainly neither of us 'owns' the other merely because a trade has been completed.
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I love the truckers in Canada, and I especially love that all the people are supporting them along the roads and such, but I have to say that this whole thing is playing right into the  hands of the corrupt power structures.  So much so that I would not be surprised if it were actually set up at the higher levels, then allowed to organically grow and spread in the so-called 'Western Democracies.'

Here's what TPTB get from this:

 - 'They' can swap out the established national truckers with their expectations of established pay, complaints about working conditions, etc, with 'immigrants' (and a few years later with self-driving trucks.)  The truckers are not unique in this; many 'blue collar' industries will be similarly manipulated.

 - 'They' can blame the upcoming supply chain issues and famine which they've been working on on 'the truckers and other right-wing domestic terrorists'.  The 'woke' crowd will believe anything, and certainly they'll believe this line.  It will be further justification in their minds for international security enforcement and incarceration of their (read, the WEF's and Zionist's) enemies.



No I don't entirely see that at all unless you can give an illegal immigrant a fake license. You'd then have increased accidents and that would become noticeable by the public. There is actually a cheaper guy (or thing) than migrants and that is robot trucks. The only thing is that this will be fully functional within an interstate environment where they deliver only to large city area and within an economic that we live in the now the truckers won't entirely be displaced by this as there will still be a need for truckers in a more localized environment. Now if Klaus Schwab and the Zionists, elitists whatever you want to call them can push people into the cities then the truckers can go bye bye along with us (their plan).

In the near term, I don't see any calamities happening with the truckers but rather they will be smeared as Russian agents and there might be false flags involving them if we're not careful in calling out the media as liars (congratz to the Canadian as they called them out when interviewed on the streets). What I do see in the near term for calamities could be a release of worse bioweapon than COVID, the power grid goes down in the name of climate change or the Western world goes into a failed war against Russia and possibly China.
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I love the truckers in Canada, and I especially love that all the people are supporting them along the roads and such, but I have to say that this whole thing is playing right into the  hands of the corrupt power structures.  So much so that I would not be surprised if it were actually set up at the higher levels, then allowed to organically grow and spread in the so-called 'Western Democracies.'

Here's what TPTB get from this:

 - 'They' can swap out the established national truckers with their expectations of established pay, complaints about working conditions, etc, with 'immigrants' (and a few years later with self-driving trucks.)  The truckers are not unique in this; many 'blue collar' industries will be similarly manipulated.

 - 'They' can blame the upcoming supply chain issues and famine which they've been working on on 'the truckers and other right-wing domestic terrorists'.  The 'woke' crowd will believe anything, and certainly they'll believe this line.  It will be further justification in their minds for international security enforcement and incarceration of their (read, the WEF's and Zionist's) enemies.

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LOL way to go Zucc. Not surprising since they're basically doing damage control for these governments. They probably saw the trucker convoy in Canada and thought that a larger one could form in the US (if it hasn't started yet).

I think they tried to do one last year in the US but it fizzled out. Gee, with news like this I wonder why Cheesy. Anyway there was a truckers convoy in Australia last year that the media didn't report about. This year the Canadians took center stage and pushed this idea forward which is good in the short term to prove to our "leaders" that the madness of the lockdown should end because hell the social contract and excepting the Stamps (USD, CAD, any gov fiat, etc.) would be worth something... I just hope the Truckers end this lockdown madness period.

I hope so. They step on people's rights and then complain that the stores are not being replenished, there's fewer nurses to attend to patients, etc.
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