Topic: Failed to submit review and also did not refund the payment. (Read 2252 times)

I learned the case development and can agree that if an initiator of a flag of this type forgave the one got the flag, there's no more reason for holding my support for this flag. As for additional tags, there's a plenty of them already, but if someone will decide to leave a flag of first type for jamyr, they can tag me and I'm going to support such type of flag for him, because a long overdue loan (appeared when he failed to complete the task he applied) is a warning sign in any case.

Thanks for attracting my attention.

There's absolutely nothing left to support here. I withdraw my support but I'm leaving a neutral tag and ~jamyr

I'm not sure how you got into this situation in the first place, but our little conversation on the Bitcointalk party discord server a while back was cool, and you appeared to be a lovely guy at the time. GL on your transformation journey.

I don't think with those neutral tags anyone will be willing to give him a single penny upfront, not just a loan. These neutral on his feedback page is enough to protect any sensible lender.

But is there are red feedback needed anymore? I personally don't think it needed. With this red feedback many campaign manager including me will have high doubt to take him in any signature campaign (I have 2 but I think the power of those 2 has faded so much that it's now a joke to see these red feedback. A red feedback by default indicates that one person can not be trusted with money, is it the case for me? no. These 2 red tag are more personal than rational).

Ability to joining a signature campaign plays a major role for a lot of members in this forum to shape their characters. Not everyone is suchmoon, gmaxwell, achow101 or many others like them.

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You are wasting your time with JollyGood. You better be working with removing the supports on the flag you have from the following users:
suchmoon, jokers10, Charles-Tim, Smartvirus, Igebotz, decodx, notblox1, BoXXoB, shoreno, komisariatku, Gladitorcomeback, Unknown Op
I hope all you don't mind me mentioning you.

Argumentum ad populom.
I'm voting you as Miss Bitcointalk since it looks like youre uo for popularity contest.

I am Pleading the 5th;

According to a book in Criminal Law Ive read which upon looking at a wikipedia entry states that :

mmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmm , mmmmmm mmmmm mmm.

An accused cannot be compelled to provide you self-incriminating information just because you are holding my ability to apply to some gigs like a campaign .

I will do your research for you, although I will ask a fee of 0.0001 satoshis every hour I spent investigating from a neutral point of view. xd

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Did you quote my post just to look like youre making a sensible response. Creative,

As everybody can see, supposedly rehabilitated jamyr has decided to once again not explain whether the loan he took was repaid or not. There is of course the obligatory wall of text one would expect when misdirection is attempted. With that attitude, it means the feedback he received (both negative and neutral) was justified and there no reason to remove any of the tags.

O.o

Let this be my greatest contribution to you JollyGood.

This argument of yours is very invasive. Shows why your kind reasoning should not be allowed or tolerated as it will become a reference for others if left unchecked. As you have gained quite the influence here, but your overreaching.

My business with whoever I would do business is non of your business thus for you to be the complainant for a business transaction. You can support a complaint but you should not be allowed to pry over other peoples business.

Argumentum ad Hominem ->

for raising the contribution I have made to the community. But I will answer that youre incorrect even there. Which will support me calling you "ignorant".

According to the College of Liberal Arts of the Texas State(https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/appeal-to-ignorance.html#:~:text=This%20fallacy%20occurs%20when%20you,is%20no%20evidence%20against%20it.)


Define contribution(s),

 are they all publicly visible? Or are they all a JollyGood-need-to-know,

 how about the reports I made in private which may not be much to others but Im proud of being able to contribute without having to inform everybody that i did something.


How about the merit I sent or the merit I received, it may not be as much as you have sent/received, but them merits I received were from people I respect so much and that I am very proud to have been worthy of their attention much more of their recognition.

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If appeal to ignorance is allowed then I would say you are 9 yr old posing to be an adult because there is no evidence that youre not a 9 yr old. And thus I move that you be banned from the forum for being a kid.

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I have always asked permission from said person before I share or reference our private conversation which only happened like once when I asked why he stopped using a service in which I have my interest then.

Do you need to know or you just want to know?

With the feedback you left, youre holding my ability to be desirable as a participant of a campaign where I might earn a few satoshis, hostage while you wait for private information as ransom.

#ICantBreathe

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P.S.

I didnt want to make another disgusting spectacle of myself thats why I have sent you a personal message pleading like almost on bended-knees for you to be reasonable regarding the flag and I thank you for not supporting it , and your big fat red feedback which is a fruit of your "ignorance" / lack of information to a private matter, which I am reserving the right not to give you for reasons I also dont want to tell.

When he wants to refuse to answer a question on whether a loan was still outstanding, this was his response: For the loan I took from boss DS( mmmmm, is it okay if I dont answer, reason is hmmmm i also dont want to tell)

If tags are revised/removed for literally no valid reason, it sets a bad precedent therefore should be avoided.

If he were to engage with the community in a more proactive manner and if he were to contribute positively in some capacity, maybe some of the tags would be revisited but his main aim here seems to be to join a campaign (and he seems wiling to say and/or anything to achieve that).

It is also a fact that without a campaign he has no way of returning the money or paying anything, therefore the feedback indicating this is correct. I would say that the trust site serves just such cases.
As there was not just one case of unpaid debt, it is obvious that there is a risk if there were no warning feedback.

I already said earlier, greater engagement and more useful participation on the forum is a better way to improve your reputation.

I agree with you. The OP did default on a loan, is that to be forgotten and expunged from his feedback without him even contributing in a positive manner overall on the forum since the drama unfolded? Surely that cannot be right.

The fact the OP is determined to make use of this "jamyr" account is the driving factor for him trying to have all tags removed (most probably because he would like it enrolled on a campaign).

Not a good example of how one should try to reply if they are trying to look for a second chance. I asked him about a certain loan, a couple of times but no response about if whatsoever. I just removed the tag at one point, but I don't think I can trust someone who's not transparent.

Also, pushing people to remove the feedback just because the accuser changed their mind shouldn't be a norm. The accuser may have forgiven him, but the fact remains that he did what he did. Trust just doesn't build up overnight, especially when you messed it up at some point.

Jolly will remove his tag on you but it won't be quick and easy. You most likely will have to prove yourself in some way. It's ultimately up to him whether or not to respond, but normally sending him multiple messages will just get you on his ignore list.

You can do as others are saying and make an appeal on the reputation section but be prepared to face the music.

As the flag and accusation created by the op who has withdrawn negative trust and requested everyone to withdraw the flag in this case I think there is no reason to remove the negative trust as well as the flag. If there is no response it might be various reasons eg: they have ignored you. In this case, you may create a thread in the reputation board.

Thanks

It's been a long time and this case is still active. Since the flag was created by Royse, message him on Telegram, then create a Reputation topic with this topic as a reference in addition to Royse's reply --->  negative trust will be removed.

As for neutral trusts, it may not be removed entirely, but it will most likely not affect your chances of joining the signature campaign.

Based on recent events that have occurred in this thread, I have deleted my support for this flag.

(But next time you get a contract, you should fulfill it.)

If I may suggest, you could create a thread in the reputation section, explain the story from the beginning, and mention the users who supported the flag. Sending unsolicited private messages is not a good idea. If someone reports, you may get banned for that. It looks like Royse wants to give you a 2nd chance, and I believe he will have no problem commenting on that thread. There is no problem trying your luck by creating a thread. But you have to promise that you won't repeat the same thing in the future.
Good luck.

I have actually been sending unsolicited private message , worked for some while some like JollyGood must be enjoying or doesnt care at all.  



Thank you


Cool with anything within reason.


Its not impossible, but it is not easy. Extra-DIFFICULT and torturous. I will not wish it not even for my enemy. To file an appeal that doesnt get a reasonable response, and further torture is that you guys kind of allow him to violate my very basic right to privacy .

Hes asking information that I dont think concern any of you.

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Its good that you posted this now; I did not notice this thread; I just deleted my feedback just now. I hope you're good now. Since you admit your wrongdoing and rectify it, you deserve another chance. This is my opinion.

Over time, this appeal becomes increasingly difficult. Also, his earlier explanation of "hmmm" and "mmmm" to some concrete questions did not help at all, but maybe something has changed now.

At this moment, an active red flag on your profile makes it difficult for you to participate in campaigns, as well as possibly any deal, you will always have to be the first to provide the service or pay first. If your intentions are honest, it shouldn't be a problem.
As for the impossibility of making money from signature campaigns, try to replace it with the new skills you've learned. It might even be better than a signature campaign.
For everything else, you are an equal member of the forum like everyone else.

I think you should contact those who have not removed the tag yet in private message/telegram. if they don't reply or don't cooperate then you should contact the person who has accused you to remove the tag and/or negative tag. Don't forget to add this thread as a reference of the withdraw of the accusation.