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legendary
Activity: 2058
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If you fail to do what you sign up for and you repeat this action several times than you should not be trusted ever again.
Saying sorry without giving any estimate date when you could refund coins you received is bullshit.
jamyr deserve to be nominated in next competition as cheater or biggest fail of the year.
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 653
Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
Judging from this statement and the post history of this user "jamyr", I just keep wondering how on earth was he even given an opportunity to run a review in the first place? Because though I can understand that the Mixin Safe review was as a result of "first come, first serve", but for me, I felt more other majors needed to have been put in place to offer choosing the wrong people for that job, just like what "jamyr" is saying right now. Because any reasonable human being, knowing the fact that you can't refund the money that have been paid for a review job, would have made an attempt to submit a review, even after the deadline, and left for the manager to accept it or not, but however, this user felt reluctant till this day, and still even has to mind to come up hear to say, "I can't refund the money"... WHAT A BOLDNESS!!

Who knows if it's not a Sr.Member account been manage by a Newbie...

Please, @ Sir Royse777... I will suggest people on campaign should be given top priority when selecting people for a review job in case of next time. Thanks
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1398
Yes, I'm an asshole
Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount.
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What do you mean by OP should not have paid in advance? Those were the campaign's terms, and they were in place to attract higher quality participants. There were a 100 participants in this campaign! And, just because of one bad apple...?  No, I do not agree with that. The OP went above and beyond to accommodate everyone, even allowing extensions for late reviews. And even after all that, jamyr had plenty of chances to return the money. Yet here we are, and he still has not. Even if he spent the money, he could have simply asked for a loan, which shouldn't have been a problem given the amount.

I'm not saying that the OP is at fault. Certainly, there's a reason that the other 99 applicants went along and stuck with the original plan, to deliver a constructive review, in which the accused failed even after receiving an extension; these are the terms he agreed to. Royse is a well-known campaign manager; I understand the reason he did it, but it's how each individual has a different point of view. Personally, in the only review in which I participated a while ago, I completed the review and then got paid for it.

The worst of all is that he hasn't returned the money as he should have already. I understand that something unexpected might have happened, but in that case, if he's unable to deliver, it's mandatory to refund the manager immediately and have someone else fill the vacancy in the review campaign.

The reason why payment paid in advance was because the review will require reviewers to deposit some funds into the platform. I am strongly assuming Royse arranged the advance payment so that the participants didn't have to use their own reserved capital to complete the task.
hero member
Activity: 1540
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Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount.
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What do you mean by OP should not have paid in advance? Those were the campaign's terms, and they were in place to attract higher quality participants. There were a 100 participants in this campaign! And, just because of one bad apple...?  No, I do not agree with that. The OP went above and beyond to accommodate everyone, even allowing extensions for late reviews. And even after all that, jamyr had plenty of chances to return the money. Yet here we are, and he still has not. Even if he spent the money, he could have simply asked for a loan, which shouldn't have been a problem given the amount.

I'm not saying that the OP is at fault. Certainly, there's a reason that the other 99 applicants went along and stuck with the original plan, to deliver a constructive review, in which the accused failed even after receiving an extension; these are the terms he agreed to. Royse is a well-known campaign manager; I understand the reason he did it, but it's how each individual has a different point of view. Personally, in the only review in which I participated a while ago, I completed the review and then got paid for it.

The worst of all is that he hasn't returned the money as he should have already. I understand that something unexpected might have happened, but in that case, if he's unable to deliver, it's mandatory to refund the manager immediately and have someone else fill the vacancy in the review campaign.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1355
Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount.
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What do you mean by OP should not have paid in advance? Those were the campaign's terms, and they were in place to attract higher quality participants. There were a 100 participants in this campaign! And, just because of one bad apple...?  No, I do not agree with that. The OP went above and beyond to accommodate everyone, even allowing extensions for late reviews. And even after all that, jamyr had plenty of chances to return the money. Yet here we are, and he still has not. Even if he spent the money, he could have simply asked for a loan, which shouldn't have been a problem given the amount.
hero member
Activity: 1540
Merit: 744
Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.
I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.
I've been watching this report since the day it was originally posted. Although I'd like to attempt to not be harsh against the accused, but he received payment in advance for a review he hadn't completed. Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount. I'm siding with EarnOnVictor; he's right. The accused had plenty of chances to make up for the review he didn't complete, and on top of that, he is failing to return the money after he missed the deadline twice. If he wasn't capable of conducting the review, he shouldn't have gone ahead and accepted.

I understand the accused was perhaps in a dire situation to not be able to afford $80, but he should have been more considerate and gone ahead with the review, supposing that his side of the story is true. Now, for less than $80, he has permanently ruined his reputation and his chances of ever rejoining a signature campaign. An Sr. Member account could generate up to $150–$200 if he was willing to put in the necessary effort and create constructive content; such an account is worth much more than $80 in the long run.

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legendary
Activity: 2310
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

What complicates things even more, Jamyr will no longer be able to participate in campaigns due to negative feedback. Therefore, returning bitcoins will be very difficult, even if it is a small sum of $78. I personally do not believe that he will return to the forum, at least not under this account. He lost all motivation to do so.
What makes it a lot more difficult than it already is, is that $78 is almost 1/4(sometimes even more than 1/4) of the total average monthly salary here in the Philippines.

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
I am not surprised that others are doubting you(including me) but Good luck, I hope you can pay back the 3mbtc as soon as possible even if it is just little by little.
staff
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I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

Anyone in his shoes could easily do what he did, but what he wrote up there has no substance. He clearly stated that he can't pay right now, it could be months, it could be years, it could be forever, and he hasn't shown any reasons why anyone shouldn't support the flag or why the company or Royse should hold back on his words. I expected him to show up with sufficient grounds and plans to resolve the situation, but he did the opposite.

It takes 35-45 mins to test and give a review- he's lazy and has no excuse. Flag supported.
hero member
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Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
You've been on this forum for years, and you've made a decision like this, it's disappointing. If you were a little more active and took some time to complete the review, you wouldn't be in this situation. The amount you have taken is not so big that you lose the ability to refund. If you are active in the forum you can earn this amount without losing your account reputation. But the decision you have made is disappointing to many. Like many, I think it's a question of whether you'll ever come back to this account.
legendary
Activity: 3248
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

What complicates things even more, Jamyr will no longer be able to participate in campaigns due to negative feedback. Therefore, returning bitcoins will be very difficult, even if it is a small sum of $78. I personally do not believe that he will return to the forum, at least not under this account. He lost all motivation to do so.
hero member
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.
I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.

Was that really his excuse? No internet connection? I totally agree, that's quite a weak excuse in this day and age. Sure, unexpected situations can happen. Like, for instance, a natural disaster striking and leaving you without electricity and internet for a while. But unless you're living on Antarctica or on the Moon, it's hard to believe you can't get back online within a couple of weeks.
hero member
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.
I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.
legendary
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.
legendary
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Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .
sr. member
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Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
hero member
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All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.

It seems that he has already spent that 90$ somewhere else and he did not have money to review. Remember to review the Mixin Safe, we need to spend at least 2$ to upgrade and also some funds to deposit and withdrawals. Seems like he had no money left for all this and therefore he could not review.

Also if he returns this money anytime in future, would the tag be removed? I think some things are time bound and if you do not do the required actions within the specified time, you cannot be trusted.


I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do Roll Eyes

It's not about 0.003 BTC. If someone scams even 1 bitcoin, that money won't be helpful for that person. It may seem that he has got big money but in fact that money will be evil for him. People don't realize this and then cry later about why they are getting so many problems in life, It's because they are spending their lives with money earned through dishonesty and/or by scamming others.
hero member
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All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.
If he was not capable enough to review then there was no need to apply. But he disappeared with the funds without posting a review, the results of which are showing on his account. It's really a stupid move by this user to ruin the reputation of a senior member rank account like this.

I am still waiting for him to come back and refund the campaign money. Now it is to be seen whether he can refund the money, which he received in advance.
hero member
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And unfortunately the longer he waits, the less chance he has of everyone being around to remove their negative ratings. He probably is undergoing some unfortunate circumstance but hopefully realizes its in his best interest to resolve the situation.

Well, he alone knows what exactly the issue is, but if I were to be in his shoes and like someone who values their reputation very highly, I would just take a loan, probably outside this forum, maybe from relatives, and refund this payment now that I still have a higher chance of retaining some of my reputation, and then ask for the forgiveness of the campaign manager.
As this kind of Jamyr behavior can also likely jeopardize his chances of getting accepted in any of his future campaigns,
sr. member
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All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.
legendary
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I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do Roll Eyes

Quite a while, actually... it could be a month's rent or a month's worth of food for some people. But the earnings potential from the un-tarnished account would have been much greater, of course.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

And unfortunately the longer he waits, the less chance he has of everyone being around to remove their negative ratings. He probably is undergoing some unfortunate circumstance but hopefully realizes its in his best interest to resolve the situation.
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