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I would like to appeal to those who still support the flag,
You have supported the flag because I did not complete the service Royse paid me to. Which I was guilty.

Quote from: jamyr on August 25, 2023, 03:24:20 PM

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.

Apologies again Royse.

I was at a very low point in my life,(I wont explain it in specifics but damn, when it rains, it really pours.").
And I think I did. For sometime I have been looking for ways to pay Royse with BTC but I was not able to find a service that would pay me btc, but Ive always believed I will get my chance.
There was this time when I had to record myself while applying to one of Royse's listings which if I am not mistaken was January of last year, in which I was given this feedback,

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Your voice is natural. I like it. I am short listing you. There are many other things that I require which I will evaluate after checking out the other guys too. Please don't have your hopes high as I have many applications to consider and pick only one fit person for the job.

Best of luck[/i].

(To which I replied,)

Too late, my hopes are soaring now. :p
Thanks. In case I dont get the spot, I just want to let you know that I have every intention to pay you. Sooner or later, and lastly may 2024 be a terrific year for you,(and me).

I did not get the gig. But Ive tried again and again whenever an opportunity arrives to pay Royse.

It was a mix of both, yeah, 2024 was.

During this year I learned a new skill, writing and compiling sequences which eventually make tg bots and/or miniapps . During this I believe that I have earned myself redemption from Royse. I spent 100+ hours , writing python seq, had to run tmux on my phone. (Will continue later)...

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Since the creator of the flag (in the person of Royce) have forgiven his curprit (in the person of Jamyr) which I initially wasn't aware of until today that Jamyr reached out to me in pm politely asking that I kindly remove my support on the flag that was initially raised against him. I didn't want to at first, so I asked him to give me reasons why I should remove my support for the flag, he gave me three reasons and one of it was that the flag has been removed and directed me to this thread.

So, with based on the development here, I am withdrawing my support for the flag against the dude, a few days or weeks to his birthday as he made me know, and what other gift can be best for him than helping him get a clean account again 😁, so by this, I am imploring others users who still have their support for the flag to reconsider and withdraw it.

Thanks.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 27, 2024, 11:46:52 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2024, 01:08:22 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 25, 2024, 01:02:24 PM

I would not expect everybody be so eager to do the same.

I removed it because that's how the Flag system is supposed to be used, not because I trust jamyr. That's why I didn't Oppose the Flag.

That's correct. But how it should be is not necessary how it will be.
We are not in a prefect world. People tend to not behave all as they should, or how it's expected.

thanks

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 27, 2024, 11:46:52 PM

Quote from: jamyr on September 26, 2024, 02:18:17 PM

You should really not write things that can be perceived as something against you, especially now Cheesy

mmmm. Okay..

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2024, 01:08:22 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 25, 2024, 01:02:24 PM

I would not expect everybody be so eager to do the same.

I removed it because that's how the Flag system is supposed to be used, not because I trust jamyr. That's why I didn't Oppose the Flag.

That's correct. But how it should be is not necessary how it will be.
We are not in a prefect world. People tend to not behave all as they should, or how it's expected.

Quote from: jamyr on September 26, 2024, 02:18:17 PM

You should really not write things that can be perceived as something against you, especially now Cheesy

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 27, 2024, 08:52:16 AM

Since you are going to consider, consider also about the thread he has opened in Meta:

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He seems to have taken advantage of the golden opportunity he was given to screw up.

I saw the thread, but honestly didn't know its purpose.
I want to give him a second chance, since the person who accused him already forgave him. I don't want to be that pain in the a##, but it would really be great if he says something about the loan. To set the records straight.

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I saw that thread. What is he doing?

Quote from: Poker Player on September 27, 2024, 08:52:16 AM

Quote from: JeromeTash on September 26, 2024, 03:57:43 PM

Otherwise, I will reconsider my negative feedback and flag support soon.

Since you are going to consider, consider also about the thread he has opened in Meta:

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He seems to have taken advantage of the golden opportunity he was given to screw up.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 26, 2024, 03:57:43 PM

Otherwise, I will reconsider my negative feedback and flag support soon.

Since you are going to consider, consider also about the thread he has opened in Meta:

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He seems to have taken advantage of the golden opportunity he was given to screw up.

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Quote from: jamyr on September 26, 2024, 02:18:17 PM

For the loan I took from boss DS( mmmmm, is it okay if I dont answer, reason is hmmmm i also dont want to tell)

Was wondering about that loan… what happened?

I think if you want to start afresh on a clean slate then it's better to be transparent about anything that may seem sensitive to your trust or else it may end up catching with you soon. Yes, AB de Royse777 as an individual may have decided to forego what happened, but this is what people are going to base on when dealing with you in the near future. So, there needs to be some sort of assurance that you are now a complete different person who will not disappoint anyone during a trade deal.

Otherwise, I will reconsider my negative feedback and flag support soon.

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Quote from: jamyr on September 26, 2024, 02:18:17 PM

For the loan I took from boss DS( mmmmm, is it okay if I dont answer, reason is hmmmm i also dont want to tell)

To say that you'd better shut up.

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Thanks everybody. I'll try my best to keep my nose clean.

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For the loan I took from boss DS( mmmmm, is it okay if I dont answer, reason is hmmmm i also dont want to tell)

regardless of anywhere you might be boss DS, I wish you good health and safety.

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I removed the flag out of the request of the creator, Royse, A tag is good but even without it, we have this thread as evidence for what he has done, This is the first time I will be removing a flag based on a request, and I hope those who scam members of Bitcointalk will comeback and resolve their issues.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2024, 01:08:22 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 25, 2024, 01:02:24 PM

I would not expect everybody be so eager to do the same.

I removed it because that's how the Flag system is supposed to be used, not because I trust jamyr. That's why I didn't Oppose the Flag.

I fall in to the category of neither supporting nor opposing the flag in the first place therefore those that do remove their support can make their own decision.

Ultimately though, if the one that created the flag and requested support later decided that he wanted to withdraw the flag because of a settlement or agreement (related to being made whole again or other terms agreed), then support should be removed but individuals will make their own decision and maybe still leave an appropriate tag.

Quote from: albon on September 25, 2024, 01:36:11 PM

I hope you have learned one of the lessons that you should never forget, but was AB de Royse777 the only one with whom you acted recklessly in the past?

Well, if he received a full reprieve from those supporting the flag it will be something but he has been asked to elaborate on what happened regarding his loan from Darkstar_ in 2022 because it is not yet understood what happened. Maybe he will elaborate.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 26, 2024, 04:34:14 AM

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If we go straight to the main point. AB de Royse777 created a flag against jamyr and on the charges that he violated the terms of the review campaign of [CFNP] Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions | Review Campaign and your negative tag which was your charge against him was based on the violation of the review and was Darkstar_ loan. In the court of law, Prior bad acts and other crime evidence (propensity evidence) is not used to against the defendant when the crime was not mention in the case by the accuser in the case file.

Flag was created because jamyr didn't made the review and he has already collected the 0.003 BTC from the manager and now the same manager said jamyr has paid back the money and he said that jamyr is a good guy therefore he has removed the flag and asked others who tagged jamyr base on that course to remove theirs and I like what they said.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2024, 01:08:22 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 25, 2024, 01:02:24 PM

I would not expect everybody be so eager to do the same.

I removed it because that's how the Flag system is supposed to be used, not because I trust jamyr. That's why I didn't Oppose the Flag.

This is how it should be. When a creator of the flag request others to remove because they have settled their differences underground then we have to follow and if the defendant plead guilty and repent from his sin, second chance should be given. Though every lawyer and judge has their opinion in a case but general precedence over rule.

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You are right, of course it is not always the best solution to always ignore a member (even if I use the show/hide link to read messages when the need arises). If you ignore members you have to have good reason but sometimes we can all get it wrong.

Having said that, I only posted in this thread because the OP added @myname to bring this thread to my attention as well as the other names and I only caught up with it by chance today.

As for the pertinent point raised about the resolution between jamyr and the OP not negating issues surrounding the loan, hopefully jamyr or another member will clarify what happened any associated tag members might consider giving for that would be disassociated from their resolution.

Quote from: examplens on September 26, 2024, 05:06:08 AM

Completely ignoring a member is not always the best solution, but in that case, you should also avoid any comments in his discussion. You cannot give a rational judgment if you have not heard all the facts neutrally. I only put annoying spammers on ignore until I do it with those whose opinions or behaviour I don't like.
But that's just my take.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on September 25, 2024, 12:08:25 PM

Good people deserve chances in their life. I would like to give him one that he deserves. Hope he will not do the same mistake in future.

Since you are the flag creator and asking to withdraw the support and remove the feedback, I have withdrawn my support. I agree with your statement that good people deserve chances in their life. But the matter involved money. When someone takes money in advance to do something, they should be responsible for completing the work for which they were paid. You probably forgive him because he helped you somehow, but imagine if anyone else would do that. The guy should start changing and use the chance you gave. He should prove himself by paying the loan he took from Darkstar_.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 26, 2024, 04:34:14 AM

It seems Christmas has come early for the scrooge OP but I am sceptical of anything he posts. Thankfully with him being on my ignore list I skip past most of his posts.

Completely ignoring a member is not always the best solution, but in that case, you should also avoid any comments in his discussion. You cannot give a rational judgment if you have not heard all the facts neutrally. I only put annoying spammers on ignore until I do it with those whose opinions or behaviour I don't like.
But that's just my take.

Quote from: JollyGood on September 26, 2024, 04:34:14 AM

Does anybody have any idea about how the situation ended when jamyr took a loan from Darkstar_ a couple of years ago? Was it a loan default or were the funds fully returned after a long delay?

Darkstar_ comes once a year, marks repaid loans and then leaves the forum again. The last time it was active was 24 May 2024, 05:46:00, so if the loan is still active, then it hasn't been paid off by jamyr.

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It seems Christmas has come early for the scrooge OP but I am sceptical of anything he posts. Thankfully with him being on my ignore list I skip past most of his posts.

Does anybody have any idea about how the situation ended when jamyr took a loan from Darkstar_ a couple of years ago? Was it a loan default or were the funds fully returned after a long delay?

Unless I am mistaken, it was supposed to be a $40 loan for 40 days in August 2022 and he was supposed to return $50 including interest. I found a post with a partial payment made in December 2022 but not one for a full repayment.

As the loan situation was not connected to the forgiveness drama related to the OP, even if the funds were returned after a delay that alone should warrant a neutral tag at the very least (and a red tag if it was not repaid in full). Hopefully someone (maybe jamyr) can clarify what happened.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 11, 2023, 07:19:27 AM

Jamyr defaulted a loan for over 14 months. He has Darkstar_ active loan to pay which has been since August 27th, 2022. I am not the type that will think he will pay this back, but I may be wrong. He can prove me wrong. Let us see.

Quote from: robelneo on August 11, 2023, 07:26:22 AM

Supported the flag and tagged him he is not really active here there's a gap in his posts and the review campaign is his opportunity to scam he once defaulted on a loan and paid it after 14 months but considering the trust given to him and the damages to Royse's client I don't think he deserves to be in any campaign anymore or take a loan even if he returned it now or later, it's in his character.

Quote from: coin-investor on August 13, 2023, 07:18:46 AM

It's an exit scam for me, even if it's $50 or lower if the account is useless and he cannot get into a campaign that pays Bitcoin because he cannot keep up the competition among members who are vying to get into the campaign, he's just waiting for something like this to scam, he has a bad reputation of defaulting a loan and paying it several months later I don't think he can get all these feedback even if he comes back to pay the loan unless he has a strong reason or alibi.

Quote from: PX-Z on September 25, 2024, 08:43:53 AM

I hope this will be the last strike from the user, last time it was a loan default. While it's easy to delete opinion on flags, negative tag will always depends on the giver and their principles.

Quote from: examplens on September 25, 2024, 11:31:32 AM

However, I think that the jamyr deserves at least a neutral mark because there was obviously a problem that was not handled more correctly. Also, he has a similar problem with loan defaulting from before, and later fixing things.

Considering the inactivity for a certain period, did someone demand from jamyr to confirm the ownership of the account and to sign one of the previously used addresses?

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I removed my negative tag and flag support. Some of the accounts that supported trust flag have gone offline so I don't think the account will be clean soon. It's a second chance for @jamir

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on September 25, 2024, 07:10:46 AM

I will request everyone who left negative for the incident, please feel free to remove your tag. jamyr is a good human being and he needs a chance.

@ScamViruS,

I removed my negative tag and removed support from the flag too. Based on your request.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on September 25, 2024, 12:08:25 PM

To everyone who wanted to know more details (I will also use this post as the reference of a neutral feedback I am going to leave for jamyr).

jamyr failed to submit the job and retuning the money but that was long ago. Recently I found out that he helped me a lot in different things from long time but he never mentioned about his past and I was not aware too. He also never asked to give him any return of favor.

When I asked for his profile URL earlier today for some reasons, he gave me the URL and I discovered everything that happened in the past. He proved me a good person.

Good people deserve chances in their life. I would like to give him one that he deserves. Hope he will not do the same mistake in future.

Great to hear that you have changed your mind based on the help of the person. I have removed my support of the flag. I saw still much support is on the flag. I think it will be better if you or the accused person send a message to those who have not removed the support as many people not following this thread.

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