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Dtrucksguitarfan

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Quote from: xiphon on January 27, 2018, 05:06:50 PM

That said, yes, it is not attractive for them to point the hashrate to the FairPool, and they don't.

IDK if thats 100% correct. A couple days ago, I briefly say our 'top miner hashrate' on our pool jump from 200 or so to over 1MH/s

Thank you for your response. It confirmed that I was correct in my assumption.

I hope that in the future, you add more pools to Fairpool. I have more coins to explore!

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Quote from: Dtrucksguitarfan on January 27, 2018, 04:37:52 PM

Quote from: xiphon on January 27, 2018, 03:04:51 PM

PPLNS prevents pool hopping abuse but works well for miners mining at the pool for a quite some time.

I asked this in another thread, but would you mind shining a little light onto the crazy hashrate/difficulty excursions that I am seeing on the sumo pool several times a day recently?
I'm not a very experienced miner, in fact sumo.fairpool is the first pool that I've mined for any amount of time (couple weeks now) - so this may be obvious to more experienced people.
It seems overall difficulty stays 'normally' around 6-8k (might be a little off) and the total Hashrate for sumo is about 25M/hs
From time to time (generally several times in a 24 hour period) the hashrate jumps to 35-43M/hs and therefore difficulty increases to 9-11k. Usually this lasts several hours and then SUMO returns to 'normal'
Is the the result of large mining farms jumping from one coin to another ?

I'm sure it is the result of pointing a lot of rented hashrate to SUMO network.

Quote from: Dtrucksguitarfan on January 27, 2018, 04:37:52 PM

Doesn't PPLNS make that 'not as attractive' or is their hashrate just so large it is inconsequential to them ?

PPLNS is the FairPool's rewards calculation system.
That said, yes, it is not attractive for them to point the hashrate to the FairPool, and they don't.

Consider this rented hashrate as a big farm doing solo mining.

Quote from: Dtrucksguitarfan on January 27, 2018, 04:37:52 PM

As I'm new to this my Hash is only about 2Kh/s which brings me just under 1 sumo/day however during these big difficulty jumps I drop to under /5 SUmo daily. This brings my daily average down to .6-.7 according to how long these big guys stay around for.
I appreciate any knowledge you can give me about this. Thank you.

The SUMO network's difficulty increases, what in turn brings down your daily average.
This is unhealthy for the SUMO. But at least SUMO guys implemented so-called "anti-botnet" difficulty retarget algo to minimize such abuse's effect.

The situation is even worse for the most Monero forks, tons of which you see around nowadays.

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Quote from: xiphon on January 27, 2018, 03:04:51 PM

PPLNS prevents pool hopping abuse but works well for miners mining at the pool for a quite some time.

I asked this in another thread, but would you mind shining a little light onto the crazy hashrate/difficulty excursions that I am seeing on the sumo pool several times a day recently?

I'm not a very experienced miner, in fact sumo.fairpool is the first pool that I've mined for any amount of time (couple weeks now) - so this may be obvious to more experienced people.

It seems overall difficulty stays 'normally' around 6-8k (might be a little off) and the total Hashrate for sumo is about 25M/hs

From time to time (generally several times in a 24 hour period) the hashrate jumps to 35-43M/hs and therefore difficulty increases to 9-11k. Usually this lasts several hours and then SUMO returns to 'normal'

Is the the result of large mining farms jumping from one coin to another ? Doesn't PPLNS make that 'not as attractive' or is their hashrate just so large it is inconsequential to them ?

As I'm new to this my Hash is only about 2Kh/s which brings me just under 1 sumo/day however during these big difficulty jumps I drop to under /5 SUmo daily. This brings my daily average down to .6-.7 according to how long these big guys stay around for.

I appreciate any knowledge you can give me about this. Thank you.

xiphon

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Quote from: ertha on January 27, 2018, 01:47:40 PM

@Xiphon

I love our pool so much that I always comeback to mine here whenever I got a chance, the only reason I switched was that there was a few miner last weeks and we can't even hit a block.

This is the latest stats before I moved back to our pool on 25th, I got roughly 11-13 at other pools.

You can check the pic above, that's for 24-hr mining from 23-24th. The difficulty was even higher at the time.

So ofc I would expected to get much more when the diff sunk so hard, turned out I got really bad luck?

Is everything alright on our ends?

Checked everything, yep, just a bad luck. Didn't find any single error or something.

Quote from: ertha on January 27, 2018, 01:47:40 PM

Lastly, is it possible to check what time did I submit first share? I really want to time it precisely to make sure that I'm not rushing to conclusion. If I can know that so I can get a big picture of my average reward during these 4-5 days.

88 hours ago

Quote from: ertha on January 27, 2018, 01:47:40 PM

***regarding the PPLNS I've read it several times yet I have say that I don't completely understand it... Cry

But I'm assuming that way as I'm getting 0.22 for each block we found NOW. Which equals to the percentage of hashrate I'm accounting for (i'm the 2nd top miner) you can see for ur self.

When the pool's hashrate is stable, rewards are equal "to the percentage of hashrate I'm accounting for".

Quote from: ertha on January 27, 2018, 01:47:40 PM

So I think that the 1st miner just came yesterday but seems to get the reward proportionately to his hashrate thus my shares has ended right?

PPLNS prevents pool hopping abuse but works well for miners mining at the pool for a quite some time.

ertha

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@Xiphon

I love our pool so much that I always comeback to mine here whenever I got a chance, the only reason I switched was that there was a few miner last weeks and we can't even hit a block.

https://image.ibb.co/doa4gw/farm.png

This is the latest stats before I moved back to our pool on 25th, I got roughly 11-13 at other pools.

You can check the pic above, that's for 24-hr mining from 23-24th. The difficulty was even higher at the time.

So ofc I would expected to get much more when the diff sunk so hard, turned out I got really bad luck?

Is everything alright on our ends?

Lastly, is it possible to check what time did I submit first share? I really want to time it precisely to make sure that I'm not rushing to conclusion. If I can know that so I can get a big picture of my average reward during these 4-5 days.

***regarding the PPLNS I've read it several times yet I have say that I don't completely understand it... Cry

But I'm assuming that way as I'm getting 0.22 for each block we found NOW. Which equals to the percentage of hashrate I'm accounting for (i'm the 2nd top miner) you can see for ur self. So I think that the 1st miner just came yesterday but seems to get the reward proportionately to his hashrate thus my shares has ended right?

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Quote from: ertha on January 27, 2018, 11:27:38 AM

Based on the fact that the difficulty for last 3 days went as low as 5 million to 6 million I'm getting roughly 12.5-13 at other pools.

Is it an estimation? Or do you run couple rigs here and couple on the other pools in parallel?

Quote from: ertha on January 27, 2018, 11:27:38 AM

Will my hashrate that were submitted during no-block time be compensated?
I know PPLNS favors the loyal pool member, but every block I found now I only get 6% or roughly .22 ETP per block, that's equal to the percent that I'm accounting for (6% of 4.xx Gh) as the new guy with big hash came.
So I'm assuming that the share I submitted during no-block days are excluded right?

http://give-me-coins.com/support/faq/what-is-pplns/

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We have a very bad luck on ETP Cry

idk whap happened to us lately lol

By the next 12 hrs, it will be 96 hrs of mining here. I'm benching the performance using only 2 rigs (just switched back from other coins)

So far I only got 33 ETP (including unconfimed blocks), which is only around 9 ETPs per day. from 345 Mh/s..

Based on the fact that the difficulty for last 3 days went as low as 5 million to 6 million I'm getting roughly 12.5-13 at other pools.

Will my hashrate that were submitted during no-block time be compensated?

I know PPLNS favors the loyal pool member, but every block I found now I only get 6% or roughly .22 ETP per block, that's equal to the percent that I'm accounting for (6% of 4.xx Gh) as the new guy with big hash came.

So I'm assuming that the share I submitted during no-block days are excluded right?

johnymatamu

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what's wrong with sumo pool? no worker & pool hashrate

kyw74

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what's wrong with sumo pool? 0 miner / 0 workers 0H/s ....................

xiphon

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Quote from: Estebantr on January 20, 2018, 12:06:13 PM

The block was found and i not get paid 1 day ... ? thanks for the reply

http://give-me-coins.com/support/faq/what-is-pplns/

Estebantr

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The block was found and i not get paid 1 day ... ? thanks for the reply

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Quote from: Estebantr on January 19, 2018, 02:12:38 PM

what is the difference with each one ? .

No difference, use them as a backup (fallback) option for web stats and stratum mining servers.

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Quote from: kyw74 on January 20, 2018, 05:25:53 AM

Yes I found that fairpool etn pool is in really bad in luck after the domain name was shut down few days ago. Anything wrong ?

It is not related to the domain changes.
Just couple of unlucky blocks.

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Quote from: Estebantr on January 19, 2018, 02:12:38 PM

Quote from: xiphon on January 19, 2018, 09:57:55 AM

Added web stats and stratum servers mirrors to prevent the attack vector that has been used to shutdown the .xyz domain

Keep that in mind. If there will be any problem with one of them, others will be live

Web stats
https://fairpool.xyz
https://fairpool.cc
https://fairpool.in
https://fairpool.pw
https://fairpool.cloud

Currency	Stratums
SUMO	mine.sumo.fairpool.xyz:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.cc:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.in:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.pw:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.cloud:5555
ETN	mine.etn.fairpool.xyz:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.cc:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.in:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.pw:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.cloud:8888
ETC	mine.etc.fairpool.xyz:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.cc:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.in:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.pw:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.cloud:4444
ETP	mine.etp.fairpool.xyz:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.cc:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.in:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.pw:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.cloud:6666
PASL	mine.pasl.fairpool.xyz:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.cc:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.in:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.pw:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.cloud:4009

what is the difference with each one ? .

I used to dont have any problems with payments and confirmations with the old host , but now with mine.etn.fairpool.cloud:8888 i have never get paided

Yes I found that fairpool etn pool is in really bad in luck after the domain name was shut down few days ago. Anything wrong ?

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Quote from: xiphon on January 19, 2018, 09:57:55 AM

Added web stats and stratum servers mirrors to prevent the attack vector that has been used to shutdown the .xyz domain

Keep that in mind. If there will be any problem with one of them, others will be live

Web stats
https://fairpool.xyz
https://fairpool.cc
https://fairpool.in
https://fairpool.pw
https://fairpool.cloud

Currency	Stratums
SUMO	mine.sumo.fairpool.xyz:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.cc:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.in:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.pw:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.cloud:5555
ETN	mine.etn.fairpool.xyz:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.cc:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.in:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.pw:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.cloud:8888
ETC	mine.etc.fairpool.xyz:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.cc:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.in:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.pw:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.cloud:4444
ETP	mine.etp.fairpool.xyz:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.cc:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.in:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.pw:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.cloud:6666
PASL	mine.pasl.fairpool.xyz:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.cc:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.in:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.pw:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.cloud:4009

what is the difference with each one ? .

I used to dont have any problems with payments and confirmations with the old host , but now with mine.etn.fairpool.cloud:8888 i have never get paided

xiphon

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Added web stats and stratum servers mirrors to prevent the attack vector that has been used to shutdown the .xyz domain

Keep that in mind. If there will be any problem with one of them, others will be live

Web stats
https://fairpool.xyz
https://fairpool.cc
https://fairpool.in
https://fairpool.pw
https://fairpool.cloud

Currency	Stratums
SUMO	mine.sumo.fairpool.xyz:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.cc:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.in:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.pw:5555 mine.sumo.fairpool.cloud:5555
ETN	mine.etn.fairpool.xyz:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.cc:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.in:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.pw:8888 mine.etn.fairpool.cloud:8888
ETC	mine.etc.fairpool.xyz:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.cc:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.in:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.pw:4444 mine.etc.fairpool.cloud:4444
ETP	mine.etp.fairpool.xyz:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.cc:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.in:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.pw:6666 mine.etp.fairpool.cloud:6666
PASL	mine.pasl.fairpool.xyz:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.cc:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.in:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.pw:4009 mine.pasl.fairpool.cloud:4009

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Quote from: pierre2302 on January 18, 2018, 04:12:18 PM

Hello

how can we do to change his pasl in another currency, because on cryptopia the pasl currency is in maintenance since august 2017

Thank you

I'm not aware of any other exchanges you may use for this right now.

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Quote from: pndiku on January 18, 2018, 11:16:19 AM

Quote from: xiphon on January 18, 2018, 10:12:07 AM

Quote from: pndiku on January 18, 2018, 09:55:11 AM

Is it possible to set manual difficulty on your pools? I seem to remember seeing something about it somewhere

There is no way to set fixed diff at the moment.

Cool. Must have been thinking about a different pool!

Anyway, it's all good. Miner has settled down and hashrate is stable.

Ime the variable difficulty works really well on this pool as compared to others. IMHO you will not gain anything by setting static diff unless there is some situation where the miner is losing connection a lot, and even then it is debatable!

pierre2302

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Hello

how can we do to change his pasl in another currency, because on cryptopia the pasl currency is in maintenance since august 2017

Thank you

pndiku

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Quote from: xiphon on January 18, 2018, 10:12:07 AM

Quote from: pndiku on January 18, 2018, 09:55:11 AM

Is it possible to set manual difficulty on your pools? I seem to remember seeing something about it somewhere

There is no way to set fixed diff at the moment.

Cool. Must have been thinking about a different pool!

Anyway, it's all good. Miner has settled down and hashrate is stable.

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