Fake "Anonymity of Bitcoin" Urban Legend.(Terrible Things You Didn't Know About)

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Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 02:04:14 AM

Who need to spread the lie of Bitcoin anonymity?

You Can Be De-anonymized Using Bitcoin
Bitcoins Are Traceable On The Blockchain
Your Name Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Your IP Address Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Revealing Your Bitcoin Address Before It Goes Into the Blockchain Could Let Others Track You
Possessing a Wallet File Might Be Enough Proof That You Control Bitcoins

Just show ppl who think bitcoin is anonymous this: http://www.bitcoinisnotanonymous.com/

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You can trace the owner here as the most of us has our main adress at our profile otherwise you wouldnt be able to see anything,you would see but couldnt connect it to anyone here.Anyway bitcoin inst full anonymous just hide anyone under an adress.

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What is the best honey pot for criminals and scammers? Answer ---> Tell them Bitcoin is anonymous. Roll Eyes

... You have to know what you doing before Bitcoin gives you some degree of anonymity and

even then, full anonymity are not guaranteed. The pseudo-anonymity of Bitcoin gives you the same level of anonymity as cash. If you received marked bills, or you draw cash from a fiat ATM, you lose

your anonymity and reveal your spending habits. You have to combine several technologies and services to make Bitcoin more anonymous than the normal user. {Tor / Mixers / VPN's etc... }

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Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 02:04:14 AM

Who need to spread the lie of Bitcoin anonymity?

You Can Be De-anonymized Using Bitcoin
Bitcoins Are Traceable On The Blockchain
Your Name Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Your IP Address Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Revealing Your Bitcoin Address Before It Goes Into the Blockchain Could Let Others Track You
Possessing a Wallet File Might Be Enough Proof That You Control Bitcoins

It was a great marketing tactic

now we have BITCOIN !!!

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Quote from: Red-Apple on March 17, 2016, 12:12:28 PM

i don't understand this obsession over bitcoin's anonymity.

Where do You see something similar to obsession?
I'm here against similar messages, that claim the anonymity if the user goes using Bitcoin
- chek this shit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14205234

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i don't understand this obsession over bitcoin's anonymity.

what i see is two kinds of people who care about bitcoin and one group that don't care.

1. those who want some small anonymity, so a regular user with only access to internet can't track them. they can simply use new address with each transaction and make it hard to track. these don't care that much about complete anonymity.

2. Scammers they are the ones who care so much about the anonymity part of bitcoin instead of many other benefits. these people know how to cover their tracks and doesn't concern us and what we say on this forum!

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Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 02:04:14 AM

Who need to spread the lie of Bitcoin anonymity?

You Can Be De-anonymized Using Bitcoin
Bitcoins Are Traceable On The Blockchain
Your Name Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Your IP Address Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Revealing Your Bitcoin Address Before It Goes Into the Blockchain Could Let Others Track You
Possessing a Wallet File Might Be Enough Proof That You Control Bitcoins

i just take the middle,yes bitcoins can't called as anonymous transaction,its traceable,but i also think the mean of Anonymous is cannot trace as we trace bank transaction,its have no name or number who registered in any company.

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Quote from: DeboraMeeks on March 17, 2016, 05:41:17 AM

Quote from: Amph on March 17, 2016, 02:47:03 AM

all this can be true, only if i'm not simply moving my coins around, otherwise there is no way you can tell what of those addresses are mine

You have this address on your profile: 1ARz5VBamv9oCoS2qTDgJXDE46JzWkBaYm

From that I can see all 181 of your wallet addresses: http://fpaste.org/341501/82103931/raw/

I can also see your regular receipts from YoBit.net, Bit-x.com, and Purse.io. I can also see your Kraken withdrawals in October / November last year. A small receipt from FaucetBox last year May. A withdrawal from PrimeDice in February last year, as well as three withdrawals from Bittrex at the same time. Some more Bittrex withdrawals in January, quite a few in fact. Cryptsy withdrawal in January. 2014 seems to entirely be Bittrex withdrawals, with the occasional Poloniex / C-Cex / AllCrypt.com / Mintpal withdrawal. Cryptorush.in payment in February 2014, also a Bitfinex withdrawal. And then Cryptsy withdrawals in December 2013. First wallet activity was a Cryptsy withdrawal on 2013-12-13.

Your payments are pretty mundane. Mostly Purse.io spends, deposits to Kraken and Bittrex. A bit of betting on CloudBet in June 2015. Two BitPay payments in January 2015, on the 1st and the 10th. Also two in December 2014. Most of 2014 is Kraken and Bittrex deposits, a few Poloniex deposits in March and April. A bunch of Cryptsy deposits in February 2014.

that's because i'm using the same walelt, i didn't bother to create other wallet, but what if i start use one wallet for each new address? you can not keep all the track anymore

in fact among those addresses there aren't the one of my cold storage

KFCBTC

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Your IP is linked to your transaction? you can always use a VPN or proxy..
Your Identity is linked to your coins? not if you don't buy from exchanges directly.

I too agree bitcoin is not anonymous but it's far more private than using creditcards for example in a way.

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Quote from: Lauda on March 17, 2016, 11:22:03 AM

what then?

I'm talking here about multiple advertising messages, that are using composition of words
"Bitcoin is Anonymous and perfect to protect privacy" and similar, with no precisation in wich cases it might be partially anonymous.
I'm thinking, that in Russian Federation under "SORM-2" is nothing anonymous.

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Quote from: odysseas10 on March 17, 2016, 05:38:27 AM

Not sure if this has been posted here, but monero is mentioned in this article as way of anonymizing Bitcoin transactions

https://99bitcoins.com/complete-guide-using-bitcoin-anonymously/

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Obscuring the Trail through Altcoin Shifting

Why stop at mixing between Bitcoin addresses? Mixing between Bitcoins and privacy-centric altcoins provides another layer of obscurity. This method requires perhaps a little less trust than using a centralized mixing service. The best altcoin to use for this purpose is probably Monero (XMR).

This short guide covers buying Monero with Bitcoin; to anonymize your bitcoins, simply convert them to XMR, forward them to a new Monero address under your control and then convert them back to new, anonymous BTC.

Two great sites for converting between Bitcoin and Monero are Shapeshift.io and XMR.to. Remember to access them via Tor and don’t worry about sign-up; neither site requires it.

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Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 11:16:57 AM

Quote from: maku on March 17, 2016, 08:50:20 AM

And your IP is

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... When you make a Bitcoin transaction, you are essentially creating a message on your phone or computer and sending it to the Bitcoin network. Someone operating a large number of nodes in the Bitcoin network might be able to match some of your transactions to your IP address, then deanonymize your entire stack of Bitcoins. ...

So when I'm using TOR, a VPN or a public Wi-Fi, what then? This isn't really a serious concern and should have been known already. You need to bold that 'might be' part there. It does not mean that he will necessarily be able to do that.

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Also, IP address which linked to a bitcoin address or transaction usually is full nodes IP or miners, not yourself Roll Eyes

That's the IP address of the node that relayed the transaction. However, the node is able to see the IP address of the sender. This is why it might only be feasible if one has control over a larger number of nodes.

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Quote from: RodeoX on March 17, 2016, 09:40:46 AM

Speak for yourself man. YOU do not know how to be completely anonymous, but some of US do.

About what is Your message here in relation with query in this topic?

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Quote from: maku on March 17, 2016, 08:50:20 AM

And your IP is

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When you make a Bitcoin transaction, you are essentially creating a message
on your phone or computer and sending it to the Bitcoin network.
Someone operating a large number of nodes in the Bitcoin network
might be able to match some of your transactions to your IP address,
then deanonymize your entire stack of Bitcoins. ...

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The revolution will be monetized!

Speak for yourself man. YOU do not know how to be completely anonymous, but some of US do.

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Bazinga!

Quote from: maku on March 17, 2016, 08:50:20 AM

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And your IP is not stored in the blockchain as far as I know.

i have never thought about this before but if it is not stored on the bitcoin blockchain then how come a block explorer like blockchain.info shows IP address for the transaction?

are they keeping a seperate log?

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I am not really following what you want to prove by this post, Op.
Your real name can't be linked yo your bitcoin address unless you are using bitcoin satellite services (which requires to send your ID) with said address and someone knows that.
And your IP is not stored in the blockchain as far as I know.

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Shit, did I leave the stove on?

Some of these statements could be true if the right circumstances are present. I think myths is a better word than lies because these can be plausible. Sadly the Mythbusters show has ended so we missed the opportunity to have Bitcoin tested on television Grin

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Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 05:19:15 AM

Quote from: lrdeoliveira on March 17, 2016, 05:02:51 AM

If so 2 are the cases:
1. you dont want your privacy
2. you want privacy but you're stupid

Just check this forum on "Bitcoin is anonymous".
That people making scam Advertising on Bitcoin related services,
woh much they are? Hunderts of scamers.

if someone is advertising that bitcoin is anonymous that is either spreading FUD or he is not well informed.

but also it might be that when people say "Bitcoin is anonymous" on the forum it means pseudonymous.

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Quote from: target on March 17, 2016, 05:22:50 AM

You can definitely create new bitcoin address for ever transaction that way, you won't have to worry being tracked.

This helps, but not against people with specialized software.

Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 02:04:14 AM

You Can Be De-anonymized Using Bitcoin
Bitcoins Are Traceable On The Blockchain

Don't blame anyone but yourself for not understanding the following:

Quote from: Vika NSFW on March 17, 2016, 02:04:14 AM

Your Name Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Your IP Address Might Be Linked to Your Bitcoin Address
Revealing Your Bitcoin Address Before It Goes Into the Blockchain Could Let Others Track You
Possessing a Wallet File Might Be Enough Proof That You Control Bitcoins

1) Not really.
2) IP address != person.
3) Circumstantial.
4) Obviously, it is your wallet.

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