[FAKE] The database of all of the bitcoin private keys - page 3.

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Quote from: Shogen on April 28, 2014, 01:42:42 AM

Bitcoin private keys are just some huge numbers (256 bits) and any 256-bit number between "0x1" and "0xFFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFE BAAE DCE6 AF48 A03B BFD2 5E8C D036 4141" is a valid private key.

To those who want to get all private keys, it is extremely easy. Cheesy

Take a notebook, write down "1", "2", "3", up to "115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494337".

Edit: fix a typo.

You got it. Wink

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Quote from: chandan123 on April 28, 2014, 03:51:54 AM

Quote from: pandher on April 28, 2014, 03:46:52 AM

There are some keys which show some transactions. I imported one and it once had 2 BTC in it

another good joke along with OP Cheesy

Not so.
This one is the first one from the first page:
https://blockchain.info/address/1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm

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Quote from: trace666 on April 28, 2014, 03:21:40 AM

as for all of these sites, the keys shown are generated when the page is requested by a visitor.
There is no "database" of generated keys and there is no way to get the key of a specific bitcoin address (since that would require the whole database of private keys up front).

I agree with your explanation, but the total pages(904625697166532776746648320380374280100293470930272690489102837043110636675) are still amazing! Wink

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Hi

Quote from: pandher on April 28, 2014, 03:46:52 AM

There are some keys which show some transactions. I imported one and it once had 2 BTC in it

another good joke along with OP Cheesy

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There are some keys which show some transactions. I imported one and it once had 2 BTC in it

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Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:12:29 AM

Quote from: 520Bit on April 28, 2014, 01:10:33 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:04:30 AM

WTF is this? Who owns these addresses and who is posting them on open internet?

This database owner's purpose is to prove that bitcoin is secure, public, strong and transparency. That's it. If you know bitcoin deeply, you will get the answer.

This is the bitcoin philosophy - transparency but secure even the nowadays bank system can't make it.

That is why we are Bitcoiners.

Well... if they're indeed private keys, then its not secure. Am I missing something here?

If you go down to the beach and pick up a hand full of sand, does that 'handful' represent every grain of sand in the world or the universe?

The thing that makes private keys so 'secure' is the shear number of them(in a given set), but by the same measure, if you are very very lucky then somewhere in your handful of sand is potentially a valuable 'private key' belonging to an active address holding coin. (you just need to find which one)
Which is why it is good practice to continually 'rotate' your addresses, since it adds to the entropy of 'publicity known' addresses an attacker would need to check his 'sand' against.( if it was a brute force attack)

(yep ok very simplistic but it gives a target for thought)

RF

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as for all of these sites, the keys shown are generated when the page is requested by a visitor.
There is no "database" of generated keys and there is no way to get the key of a specific bitcoin address (since that would require the whole database of private keys up front).

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Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 02:46:06 AM

So the only way the poster's claim is wrong is that either the site does not have UNIQUE keys (keys are duplicated every few pages) or they're not valid keys after all.

I don't know if the site really list all private keys out.

But as I have said earlier, it is extremely easy to generate all possible valid private keys by just going from 1, 2, 3, onwards.
So, there are nothing special about the site, even if it does list all private keys out.

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Quote from: Shogen on April 28, 2014, 02:22:37 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 02:16:44 AM

Quote from: Shogen on April 28, 2014, 02:12:41 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:59:59 AM

How close is this number to all Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated?

Not really. Though the private keys are 256 bits, there are only 2^160 addresses.

That's 49 decimal digits; how come this guy claims to have generated addresses in quantity of 78 decimal digits?

For a valid private key, it is always associated with a bitcoin address.
But, there are many different valid private keys that can lead to the same address.

Total number of valid bitcoin private key: slightly less than 2^256

Code:

115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494337

Total number of valid bitcoin address: 2^160

Code:

1461501637330902918203684832716283019655932542976

That's 78 decimal digits. So the only way the poster's claim is wrong is that either the site does not have UNIQUE keys (keys are duplicated every few pages) or they're not valid keys after all.

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Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:59:59 AM

I am trying to find out if the poster tried to generate ALL Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated. And if yes, how well did he succeed?

No even close!

One of my favorite infographics can show you.

Now that is impressive, god damn.

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Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 02:16:44 AM

Quote from: Shogen on April 28, 2014, 02:12:41 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:59:59 AM

How close is this number to all Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated?

Not really. Though the private keys are 256 bits, there are only 2^160 addresses.

That's 49 decimal digits; how come this guy claims to have generated addresses in quantity of 78 decimal digits?

For a valid private key, it is always associated with a bitcoin address.
But, there are many different valid private keys that can lead to the same address.

Total number of valid bitcoin private key: slightly less than 2^256

Code:

115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494337

Total number of valid bitcoin address: 2^160

Code:

1461501637330902918203684832716283019655932542976

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Quote from: Shogen on April 28, 2014, 02:12:41 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:59:59 AM

How close is this number to all Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated?

Not really. Though the private keys are 256 bits, there are only 2^160 addresses.

That's 49 decimal digits; how come this guy claims to have generated addresses in quantity of 78 decimal digits?

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My guess is that the creator only spam generated a few thousand address and fake the amount of address. Its practically not possible to bruteforce a private key.

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Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:59:59 AM

How close is this number to all Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated?

Not really. Though the private keys are 256 bits, there are only 2^160 addresses.

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The site lists 128 keys per page. Multiplying that to the number of pages it claims gives the following number:

How close is this number to all Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated?

I am trying to find out if the poster tried to generate ALL Bitcoin addresses that can ever be generated. And if yes, how well did he succeed?

Shogen

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Bitcoin private keys are just some huge numbers (256 bits) and any 256-bit number between "0x1" and "0xFFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFE BAAE DCE6 AF48 A03B BFD2 5E8C D036 4141" is a valid private key.

To those who want to get all private keys, it is extremely easy. Cheesy

Take a notebook, write down "1", "2", "3", up to "115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494337".

Edit: fix a typo.

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http://www.directory.io

^Same thing.. in english..

Basically its just randomly generated privkeys..

No reason to get all fucky.

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on April 28, 2014, 01:26:48 AM

gweedo said the OP "was causing FUD" but didn't explain.
I'm not sure what is going on, but you are correct, it is never secure to expose your private key(s)

He is trying cause FUD by saying bitcoin is insecure, when in reality is impossible, or close to it, that you could generate bitcoin private keys of all address. But since we have newbies who don't understand that yet, it is FUD, on top of the china news which is actually hurting bitcoin.

Ok so what did this guy actually do, he took simple strings like "1" hashed them into bitcoin addresses (I am simplifying it) instead of using a random generator which is what most bitcoin wallets use. Created a lot of addresses and faked the page number total.

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Wow! All of my private keys are that database!

/Trolling

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Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:22:42 AM

Quote from: 520Bit on April 28, 2014, 01:15:06 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:12:29 AM

Quote from: 520Bit on April 28, 2014, 01:10:33 AM

Quote from: sgk on April 28, 2014, 01:04:30 AM

WTF is this? Who owns these addresses and who is posting them on open internet?

This database owner's purpose is to prove that bitcoin is secure, public, strong and transparency. That's it. If you know bitcoin deeply, you will get the answer.

This is the bitcoin philosophy - transparency but secure even the nowadays bank system can't make it.

That is why we are Bitcoiners.

Well... if they're indeed private keys, then its not secure. Am I missing something here?

You are missing the core of bitcoin. I am not a coder, but I trust it. I hope the core dev can explain this in an easy way.

In simple words: Whoever has a private key has access to the Bitcoins attached to that private key (and related public address).

So:
If those private keys belong to the poster, it is not secure for the poster.
If those private keys belong to some other people, it is not secure for those other people.

Is it complicated to understand or am I wrong here?

P.S. : Probably all of those addresses have 0 balances and 0 transactions, so I'm not getting into 'theft' part. What I'm concerned about is how this database came into possession of someone on the internet if it is not his own.

gweedo said the OP "was causing FUD" but didn't explain.
I'm not sure what is going on, but you are correct, it is never secure to expose your private key(s)

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