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September 13, 2020, 02:38:51 AM
#85
If every individual unites into a community working together for the common good, there will not be a cry of hunger. a centrally controlled system will have no effect if all the individuals working together will become strong communal.

That would be really beautiful.

But let's be honest, with what is happening right now, I don't think all of the people would be accepting that way. Usually, if a family could just live by themselves, they won't bother helping others because the most important for them is to save themselves. If other poeple are struggling to get some food, it is not their problem.
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September 13, 2020, 02:11:42 AM
#84
Famine will not be actual in first world countries, im sure. Anyway, it's nothing more than fud news right now. Don't see any signs or real famine right now
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September 13, 2020, 01:37:53 AM
#83
I hope that these articles are dramatizing the situation. But now I'm even more convinced that more people will die form the economic impact of Covid than from the virus itself.
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September 12, 2020, 09:03:20 PM
#82
There's a lot of people who don't believe in the said pandemic, that they quote "It is a way of the government to subjugate their freedom". This kind of people tend to do things in a lot in different ways other than what is needed to be done. therefore food waste will still exist even though we're in pandemic.

As for the scarcity of food supply, it MAY exist if the pandemic continues for a long period of time where the supplies will decline as the demand increases. People with below-average income may not be able to afford enough foods to feed their families thus results to hunger. This situation is if and only if the PANDEMIC CONTINUES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

Yeah, but those people are - to put it mildly - wrong.  Nobody created the virus to subjugate people.  They don't need a virus to do that, it doesn't make any sense.  It's easier to subjugate people the normal way. 

Just because we're in a pandemic doesn't mean food demand increases.  Food demand stays stable relative to population.  So the threat of food shortages comes from the supply side.  It's a non-zero risk, sure, but not a serious risk by any means.  There is enough of a social safety net to prevent wide-scale hunger in the US. 
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September 11, 2020, 11:55:09 AM
#81
There are natural things that can lead to drought taking place, apart from that some people from the comment has listed civilization as one of the causes, which I am not really sure of, but I think that the best we can be doing to help ourselves is to make sure we are collecting and storing water properly as we should, because if we keep on wasting water, like in excessive irrigation and things like that, we are going to be ending up in situations like these where we will be in strong need of water.

Well, one thing for sure is that if one country is experiencing drought and they don’t have food, they can still be able to import from other countries.
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September 11, 2020, 08:34:43 AM
#80
All I can say is, this is really possible if this pandemic continuously spreading all over the world. As of the moment here in our country, more starving people can be seen anywhere. And what more in the coming days and months that this covid-19 crisis got worst everyday? We don't even know how long will it takes for us to suffer.
However, aside from this pandemic there are lots of factors that causes this scarcity of foods. Most likely are: inflation, crop failure, population imbalance and Government policies.
This factors really affects the economy of a country, especially those who only have limited resources. Its not easy for the Government to give aid an over populated community with only just a small budget in their hands. That is why our Government had lent money to the world bank as additional funds for the people who need most assistance in any forms. But still this additional budget is not enough for a most populous Country, and its because of the endless corruption of some leaders that made the situation got worst.
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September 10, 2020, 01:11:15 PM
#79
Let’s hope that technology improves a lot enough to make sure agriculture can grow vertical farming to a whole new level. They are building that system a lot in Japan because they do not have too much space and with all the money they make from the tech improvements and sales they make, they probably spend a ton of it on the food export market because they need to get a lot of stuff, they are lucky china is nearby and would sell for cheap but I am not sure what their relationship is like nowadays.

So, if there is a method where vertical farming could make enough food for a whole town inside one building, we could have those in the middle of every town so that we could dish out food to everyone who wants it, end of the starvation problem basically.
This is the first time I have ever heard of vertical farming and without a doubt it can help resolve the problem of space that countries may have when it comes to farming but there are many more problems that cannot be solved like that, the first problem is the soil itself, not all land has the necessary nutrients to let stuff grow and the soil that has those nutrients has been overexploited for centuries now.

The second problem is the water, fresh waster is becoming more scarce around the world and it is speculated that conflicts in the future will be not for oil but for this precious liquid we all need to live.
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September 07, 2020, 11:00:43 AM
#78
Starvation and hunger exists because the human population is way more than what the planet could sustain (and it is increasing at an alarming rate). As a result of rapidly exploding population, we have people settling in regions which are not suitable for farming. And obviously these regions are more susceptible to droughts and flooding. The only real solution is to slow down the human population growth.

Hunger and food shortages occur, not because the earth is overpopulated, but more because of human greed and a lack of desire to share. Natural resources and minerals around the world are distributed unevenly, each region in the world has its own advantages and disadvantages. There should be an awareness and responsibility that the natural resources in an area are essentially the property of all human beings on earth, and that the regional or state government has the right to manage them. Supposedly the common ground used in activities should complement each other's deficiencies. But what exists today is based on exploitation and oppression. How can we sleep comfortably and peacefully with mounting savings in the bank, but many of our brothers are starving and chopping their stomachs with stones.

The economic system of capitalism is an economic system that provides the widest possible freedom to individuals in economic activity. The principle of the economic system of capitalism is how individuals can get the maximum benefit. So, in this economic system, individuals have the freedom to apply their creativity in trade, industry, and means of production. Human nature combined with the economic system of capitalism makes exploitation of natural resources which leads to the destruction of the earth and ecosystems only to pursue profit.
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September 06, 2020, 02:00:20 PM
#77
Let’s hope that technology improves a lot enough to make sure agriculture can grow vertical farming to a whole new level. They are building that system a lot in Japan because they do not have too much space and with all the money they make from the tech improvements and sales they make, they probably spend a ton of it on the food export market because they need to get a lot of stuff, they are lucky china is nearby and would sell for cheap but I am not sure what their relationship is like nowadays.
Agricultural technology we use today is highly advanced to the point that we can create artificial crops which we can mutate for more nutrients. But still organic nutrients are way cheaper, this is the number one enemy of having a technology the cost of it is too much for anyone to handle.

So, if there is a method where vertical farming could make enough food for a whole town inside one building, we could have those in the middle of every town so that we could dish out food to everyone who wants it, end of the starvation problem basically.
You can't end starvation and hunger, it has been the very problem since the beginning though we got enough of a food supply anyone cannot still just have it without the power of money. However, I don't see that famine is on the way after all these disasters that we are experiencing.
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September 06, 2020, 01:38:39 PM
#76
In order to make this go away and figure out a way to feed the whole world even after the big climate change causes, I would say that we need to change the way we take a look at how we do farming, obviously vertical farming will be the way to go for something like this because we want to produce as much food as we can from as limited amount of space as we can while using as little things as we can but we need to make sure we know about logistics as well, it is not going to be easy.

Moreover, famine is one thing but we will also not have too much clean water, that is the real scary part, think about a world where it is highly difficult to find water to drink, that is not something we can assume easily because we can drink water everywhere we go right? But think of having water rationing in the future, that could be a possibility if we do nothing about it.
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September 06, 2020, 11:30:21 AM
#75

If every individual unites into a community working together for the common good, there will not be a cry of hunger. a centrally controlled system will have no effect if all the individuals working together will become strong communal.
Building communalism and working together to create egalitarian societies is a good idea and I think the best way to destroy hunger. everyone will work and get what they need. but it was never done and even considered a utopia.
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September 06, 2020, 10:41:18 AM
#74
I don't blame it on covid but yes covid coul prove to be a like fuel to this fire. If there is a big famine we will be having a crash just like 1929 great depression which most of the economist have actually warned about. But I don't think this sort of famine would harm the whole world today most of the countries have tried to become agri self sufficient there are a very few major countries which are entirely dependent on other countries for staple diet.

I don't want to sound rude or anyway want to sound negative but this sort of thing is actually good for BTC as it will realy show peolle how worthless can fiat be. Moreover we have seen btc prices shooting up in times of anarchy so this may be a case.
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September 06, 2020, 09:39:28 AM
#73

Better to prepare ourselfs already and building up stockpiles. This will be so sad once people start selling a bag of apples for 100$. We should try to become self suficient again as a nation and not rely on imports all around the world.
I agree with this point. We will not be hungry and troubled if we become a self-sufficient nation and work together in mutual cooperation. Not being a crybaby nation that complains and preys on one another for the sake of selfishness.

But not all of us would be able to do that.

Without the help of other people, some of us can't stand with us. Some are not just crybabies that you would just call while you never know the reason for that cries. They are working hard, it is just that the system is not about pushing them up as they go, if they don't force their way in they will just be beaten up until they can't go.

If every individual unites into a community working together for the common good, there will not be a cry of hunger. a centrally controlled system will have no effect if all the individuals working together will become strong communal.
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September 06, 2020, 01:16:40 AM
#72
Crazy world! First problems during the pandemic was when toilet paper was out and people started stock piling soap and toilet paper at home like crazy. It makes sense that food will be the main issue during the second and third wave of corona. Better to prepare ourselfs already and building up stockpiles. This will be so sad once people start selling a bag of apples for 100$. We should try to become self suficient again as a nation and not rely on imports all around the world.

The extended shortage of toilet paper was caused by a sudden shift in consumer demand. The country didn’t suddenly start using more, it’s just the place where demand originated changed. Production capacity is more than adequate, but it was split between industrial production and personal production (i.e., work and home). When offices and businesses suddenly didn’t need the industrial production anymore, producers had to shift production to meet the i teases home consumption. That takes time, the supply chains are large. But things have reached an equilibrium again.

As it goes for food production, we’re not really reliant on the rest of the world, so there’s no concern there. The US produces enough to feed itself and is a net exporter of foodstuffs.

I do agree with the 1st statement, people suddenly panicked to buy products that they thought they would need to survive the 1st part of the pandemic that results to overshopping of products they think that they need to stock as soon as the pandemic starts, needlessly thinking that most of the people in the country are in the same shoe. thus leading to shortage of products such as toilet papers, and soaps.

as for the 2nd part, I do not really agree for before, the US can produce enough to feed itself, but given that the world is in the state of pandemic, and US currently has 2.5 million active cases, the productivity of farms is affected by the virus, and the fear that the pandemic gives is really alarming. Though we can say that US will last for a period of time but will scarce if the pandemic continues.

This ignores how much food waste there is already in the United States. We’re nowhere close to starving. Not being able to get the type of meat you want is not the same as not having enough food to survive. People are inconvenienced by the disruptions to the food supply. Nobody is in danger of going hungry for lack of food. Out of necessity, there’s a lot of efficiency to be wrought out of the current system before a danger of hunger is even seen on the horizon.

There's a lot of people who don't believe in the said pandemic, that they quote "It is a way of the government to subjugate their freedom". This kind of people tend to do things in a lot in different ways other than what is needed to be done. therefore food waste will still exist even though we're in pandemic.

As for the scarcity of food supply, it MAY exist if the pandemic continues for a long period of time where the supplies will decline as the demand increases. People with below-average income may not be able to afford enough foods to feed their families thus results to hunger. This situation is if and only if the PANDEMIC CONTINUES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
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September 05, 2020, 01:41:12 PM
#71
Let’s hope that technology improves a lot enough to make sure agriculture can grow vertical farming to a whole new level. They are building that system a lot in Japan because they do not have too much space and with all the money they make from the tech improvements and sales they make, they probably spend a ton of it on the food export market because they need to get a lot of stuff, they are lucky china is nearby and would sell for cheap but I am not sure what their relationship is like nowadays.

So, if there is a method where vertical farming could make enough food for a whole town inside one building, we could have those in the middle of every town so that we could dish out food to everyone who wants it, end of the starvation problem basically.
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September 05, 2020, 11:06:53 AM
#70
I fear that before famine comes, the lack of water will come. You may think that the world is mostly water but almost all of that is salt water that is not drinkable, I am telling you this as a person who had to drink sea water for 3 days because there was no other water around me and I can tell you that it really hurts after a while, the first day is usually okay but around noon of second day you start to feel that even your tongue gets bigger and can't fit in your mouth and on third day I didn't even want to drink anymore, I knew it was my last day so I wanted to just get thirsty and stay thirsty instead of drinking salt water.

When all the good clean drinkable waters stop, it is going to be a huge challenge to make sure all those oceans can be turned into drinkable water, possible with tech we have but it is also impossible to do it for everyone in the world with how much infrastructure needed.
If a shortage of water comes then a famine will not be very far away, after all agriculture takes a great deal of our water in order to get crops to feed the world, and even if the world is full of water most of it is not fit for human consumption and even if we had plants that can remove the salt from the water that water will be very expensive and most likely will only be used by those that are rich.

If you ask me I think we are on the verge of several crises and it doesn't matter that much which one comes first at the end most of those crises will end up happening at the same time.
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September 05, 2020, 10:30:57 AM
#69
Crazy world! First problems during the pandemic was when toilet paper was out and people started stock piling soap and toilet paper at home like crazy. It makes sense that food will be the main issue during the second and third wave of corona. Better to prepare ourselfs already and building up stockpiles. This will be so sad once people start selling a bag of apples for 100$. We should try to become self suficient again as a nation and not rely on imports all around the world.

The extended shortage of toilet paper was caused by a sudden shift in consumer demand. The country didn’t suddenly start using more, it’s just the place where demand originated changed. Production capacity is more than adequate, but it was split between industrial production and personal production (i.e., work and home). When offices and businesses suddenly didn’t need the industrial production anymore, producers had to shift production to meet the i teases home consumption. That takes time, the supply chains are large. But things have reached an equilibrium again.

As it goes for food production, we’re not really reliant on the rest of the world, so there’s no concern there. The US produces enough to feed itself and is a net exporter of foodstuffs.

I do agree with the 1st statement, people suddenly panicked to buy products that they thought they would need to survive the 1st part of the pandemic that results to overshopping of products they think that they need to stock as soon as the pandemic starts, needlessly thinking that most of the people in the country are in the same shoe. thus leading to shortage of products such as toilet papers, and soaps.

as for the 2nd part, I do not really agree for before, the US can produce enough to feed itself, but given that the world is in the state of pandemic, and US currently has 2.5 million active cases, the productivity of farms is affected by the virus, and the fear that the pandemic gives is really alarming. Though we can say that US will last for a period of time but will scarce if the pandemic continues.

This ignores how much food waste there is already in the United States. We’re nowhere close to starving. Not being able to get the type of meat you want is not the same as not having enough food to survive. People are inconvenienced by the disruptions to the food supply. Nobody is in danger of going hungry for lack of food. Out of necessity, there’s a lot of efficiency to be wrought out of the current system before a danger of hunger is even seen on the horizon.
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September 05, 2020, 09:36:31 AM
#68
Famine has been experienced by so many poor families already for quite some time so it is not coming next because it is happening already.
Its just that we are all focusing on the virus itself that we forgot the other things that can happen to other people like famine.
I've seen some families here in our country that are begging in the streets already just to have some money to use to have their daily meals. I found it unfortunate for them but I know that there will be a time that this will end but there will be casualties above it.

Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.
For sure many people are doing it already but I already have the feeling that some of the families can't even afford to buy some MRE's. Feel sad for them Sad.
People have a lot of problems, primarily because of the government. I do not want to take African countries as an example, but you can pay attention to Cuba, which has all the resources to provide for the people, but the government practically itself pursues a policy where people are slaves and receive a salary of no more than $ 20. For them, simple foods such as milk or potatoes are an expensive delicacy that cannot be bought anywhere. At the same time, other products are received by cards. In addition, one must take into account the fact that even in the countries of central Europe, where food is not so difficult, due to climate change it is more and more difficult to grow crops and obtain animal products. Today we are not only facing problems due to the coronavirus pandemic, but we are also facing modern challenges of a more global scale.
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September 05, 2020, 07:25:03 AM
#67
Famine has been experienced by so many poor families already for quite some time so it is not coming next because it is happening already.
Its just that we are all focusing on the virus itself that we forgot the other things that can happen to other people like famine.
I've seen some families here in our country that are begging in the streets already just to have some money to use to have their daily meals. I found it unfortunate for them but I know that there will be a time that this will end but there will be casualties above it.

Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.
For sure many people are doing it already but I already have the feeling that some of the families can't even afford to buy some MRE's. Feel sad for them Sad.
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September 05, 2020, 06:03:45 AM
#66
Many are alarmed by the news of the famine but if the epidemic continues it could increase but many countries around the world are already taking steps to cure the virus. The United States is helping people affected by the China virus but nothing is being done about it as the world struggles with the Corona epidemic one death after another the United Nations warns of a more dire situation ahead. This warning is going to be more tragic than the Corona epidemic there is a terrible famine waiting for the end of the corona virus epidemic food shortage has started in a large part of the world Soon it will take the shape of famine Famine has already started in some areas.
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