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Quote from: gentlemand on August 30, 2020, 09:40:36 AM

Those aren't MREs though.

Thanks for bringing this up - I apparently always mistaked one for another. I just found this article and it certainly is an interesting comparison.

Quote from: gentlemand on August 30, 2020, 09:40:36 AM

There are places that sell 1 year of food packs for a fortune that are dehydrated/frozen, but they rather conveniently reduce your meals to one a day so by the end of that year you'd be the size of a toothpick. And dead.

As far as I know honey is the one and only eternally lasting source of energy.

Why do you think the canned food (or dehydrated/frozen one) isn't enough to keep you alive?

Looking over some prices over here in Romania, an NRG-5 MRE pack for one day (2,300 kcal) is worth about 38-45 RON (so let's say about $10) while from only one 11 RON ($2.70) can of food you can get 1,000 kcal already, which means you can get 4,000 kcal for only 44 RON ($10.80).

But again, the big negative side is storage space and probably expiration date as well, unless you freeze that stuff. MREs are, I imagine, waay smaller than a few kgs of canned food. The point I was trying to make is, one can basically get canned stuff for almost half the price of MREs while also hitting the necessary daily calorie count if budget really is an issue.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 30, 2020, 01:50:09 PM

climate change is a hoax. its not true. if they were really concern about it those countries promoting it should be the be first to have reduced their gas emission but look how much they produced. US and China are the top ones there. and you know why? they know its not true. countries who believe are the ones going to have a slow economy and will not industrialized in the end.

Is there any organization that protests for having an anti-climate change group lol. I never knew that there is a person like you who does not believe in climate change. Coz we are literally experiencing it, the nature adjusted itself, our summer is rainy and our rainy days are sunny, just think why it is happening. Even the school year in our country has been adjusted due to this phenomena and you don't believe in climate change? Have you seen the ice caps in northern regions slowly melting? Ever know that there is a small country that will sink in 2 to 3 years from now? Climate change is real mate.

Quote from: electronicash on August 30, 2020, 01:50:09 PM

the people in veitnam, cambodia and thailand are eating insects which is a great source of protein. it reproduce faster up to 1000x compare to raising hogs and chickens which is why they do have cricket farms there. i dont think they'd experience famine. Grin

Famine is far from happening, we got a massive food production globally, we haven't seen any signs of famine yet due to the ongoing crisis.

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The problem of global warming remains as acute and urgent as before, despite the fact that now governments are more concerned about the fight against the pandemic, which has made countries unprepared for new (old) threats. After all, it is global warming that affects the climate, which will lead to drought, flooding, crop failure and hurricanes. It is scary to imagine where this will lead, but for poor countries it will be a disaster at all.

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climate change is a hoax. its not true. if they were really concern about it those countries promoting it should be the be first to have reduced their gas emission but look how much they produced. US and China are the top ones there. and you know why? they know its not true. countries who believe are the ones going to have a slow economy and will not industrialized in the end.

the people in veitnam, cambodia and thailand are eating insects which is a great source of protein. it reproduce faster up to 1000x compare to raising hogs and chickens which is why they do have cricket farms there. i dont think they'd experience famine. Grin

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We are now seeing the negative impact that the humanities have brought up directly into the nature where we supposedly getting all of our needs for the daily basis. We have totally become abusive on our natural resources and as a result is the showcasing of how those actions is now affecting our surroundings. The advancement of people's lives have brought up making our daily lives got easier but at the same time is having a negative effect on the nature. We must come up into a better and long lasting solution that will resolve the problem we have right now before it gone even worst like famine which this thread have been discussing.

We must used up the advancement to build up greater solutions because if we will not do such, we will just remain on the influence of technology but the nature would be at stake. The climate change is literally affecting us all most specially the nature for the normal cycle of how weather and climate have changed making the nature have a difficulty to adjust and causing the natural phenomenon to happen destructing natural resources.

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This is the outcome of change. We all are talking change and the economy too is changing. Human interactions have increased and the system is no longer the way it is and this has brought corruption that has eaten deep into the fabric of economies.

Corruptors are indeed a big problem for the government because they always spend the state's money and starve their people, but during this pandemic, of course, economic changes are very difficult, war can occur because they maintain their economy, but I am sure that war will not happen again because the government is probably the most solution. the last is that it is owed again to the country that is what makes the economy worse.

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People are much adopted to the ongoing market situation. Often more and more number of cryptocurrency users are into existence. During the pandemic bitcoin users haven't suffered big, because of the growth it provided. Once again now people have started to think of famine to attack all around. With bitcoin this can't be managed, people need to be prepared along with the government to produce their own food knowing the future needs.

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Quote from: Tipstar on August 30, 2020, 10:14:13 AM

Not exactly famine but we are moving towards another economic depression. And to deviate people from it, many nations are trying to wage a war which may lead to another Great war or World war. It's already long overdue. If we go through it undivided, we can easily win over the post pandemic crisis but leaders prefer deviation of priority than actually solving the problem. That would either lead to toppling of government or a war.

Economic depression, war, crisis -even pandemic- leads to hunger and famine. The world has problems far beyond the pandemic. We as humans can reduce/limit the man activities affecting the world -negatively/harmfully-

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Quote from: gentlemand on August 30, 2020, 05:10:52 AM

Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.

They're so expensive. A single meal ration is pretty much at the price of a meal in a decent restaurant.
I prefer to buy dry pasta, rice and canned sauces because it's cheaper.

I dare to say I could survive a year on pancakes and coffee.

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Not exactly famine but we are moving towards another economic depression. And to deviate people from it, many nations are trying to wage a war which may lead to another Great war or World war. It's already long overdue. If we go through it undivided, we can easily win over the post pandemic crisis but leaders prefer deviation of priority than actually solving the problem. That would either lead to toppling of government or a war.

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Quote from: 20kevin20 on August 30, 2020, 09:37:11 AM

There are some that last 7, 10, 15 or even more years. The time they were produced matters a lot though, obviously. Mountain House (apparently switched their name into Crisis Equipped) sells freeze-dried food that lasts up to even 30 years.

Those aren't MREs though. There are places that sell 1 year of food packs for a fortune that are dehydrated/frozen, but they rather conveniently reduce your meals to one a day so by the end of that year you'd be the size of a toothpick. And dead.

As far as I know honey is the one and only eternally lasting source of energy.

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Quote from: gentlemand on August 30, 2020, 07:19:20 AM

Never tried one either, but they're only good for about 3-5 years I think. And they're hideously expensive.

I have tried a few; it really depends on both what you define as "tasty" and the brand. Some of it tastes like shit, even expensive ones.. so purchasing samples before a large order is advisable imo.

There are some that last 7, 10, 15 or even more years. The time they were produced matters a lot though, obviously. Mountain House (apparently switched their name into Crisis Equipped) sells freeze-dried food that lasts up to even 30 years.

To prevent this and have the food last as long as possible, you could purchase canned food or MRE (sometimes canned food is cheaper but I think takes more space) and have a freezer specifically for this purpose. However, keep in mind the following thing:

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According to Foodsafety.gov, food that is kept at zero degrees Fahrenheit is deemed as nonperishable for the duration of the time it is kept in the freezer. Although the food will last forever, it will not necessarily maintain its desired taste forever.

(source: https://ehealthiq.com/how-long-does-food-last-in-the-freezer/)

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It's really a challenge for us when it's about the environment and this also happens because of humans so probably in the coming years, we'll get to see more crisis. And the population is continuously growing which results in more damages to the environment. Science and technology can also help in giving a solution to this, just like GMOs though this doesn't really guarantee a complete solution to hunger, it's still helpful.

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https://www.nationalgeographic.org/article/are-genetically-modified-crops-answer-world-hunger/

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Quote from: BTCLiz on August 30, 2020, 02:08:06 AM

This is one of the consequences of climate change. Sad

Yeah, but so many people are denying it or downplaying the consequences. I really hope humanity will get to the point realising climate change as a huge threat for humankind.

If they are not experiencing the disasters and struggle, they will not act and open their mind towards this happenings in our environment.

Famine is not impossible to happen and can happen anytime when people are unaware about the economy and the resources. Governments are also accountable and responsible with that, on how they will handle economy properly. Proper allocations of budget, good decisions, and right platforms are needed in order to prevent famine to occur.

Climate change are expected to happen but we can do something about it.w

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Quote from: Reid on August 30, 2020, 07:14:42 AM

But as of now, I am trying to teach my children survival and conserving because they might be the ones to be hit by that scarcity of food.
I am not neglecting the fact that it may happen.
The world population is getting higher and there might come a time that selfishness will rule the world.

I'd be in two minds about that. If I built up years of food and sustainable supplies I'd be the fattest sitting duck imaginable unless I lived in space. In a mass collapse scenario I think I'd rather go with the same option as nuclear war and let it eat me up rather than spend the hideous aftermath scrabbling for survival.

Quote from: NavI_027 on August 30, 2020, 07:19:11 AM

Hmm I guess I'm having now a reason to fulfill my curiosity of knowing what MRE tastes like. But I hope this is not the time to do so because I want to eat it with pleasure and not desperation to live Sad

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Never tried one either, but they're only good for about 3-5 years I think. And they're hideously expensive.

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Actually, most of the families here are experiencing famine already (I saw it from my friend's family). Seems that pandemic acts faster than the climate change. But wait, there's more! The tension between our country and China goes higher so yeah the fourth horsemen is waving on us already Cry

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Quote from: gentlemand on August 30, 2020, 05:10:52 AM

Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.

Hmm I guess I'm having now a reason to fulfill my curiosity of knowing what MRE tastes like. But I hope this is not the time to do so because I want to eat it with pleasure and not desperation to live Sad

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Increasing population is uncontrollable especially that during this quarantine, the increase in the pregnancy of women are there. Couples have so much time to spend together and we all know that resources are slowly decreasing due to climate change and disasters that are occurs every year. I'm not being negative but that's what is happening right now in our society and in the world. We don't need to make ourselves blind and numb about the issues that we are experiencing. We need to act and help our government and ourselves to prevent this problems from happening.

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I don't know. I am still not worried about it.
Maybe I just can't see the bigger picture.

But as of now, I am trying to teach my children survival and conserving because they might be the ones to be hit by that scarcity of food.
I am not neglecting the fact that it may happen.
The world population is getting higher and there might come a time that selfishness will rule the world.

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Quote from: BTCLiz on August 30, 2020, 02:08:06 AM

This is one of the consequences of climate change. Sad

Yeah, but so many people are denying it or downplaying the consequences. I really hope humanity will get to the point realising climate change as a huge threat for humankind.

Nature has given a balance to use from it -what it produces- and by doing this we are giving it adequate/friendly environs to replenish and sustain humanity for generations, but man WANTS MORE, and activities of men chokes life's out of nature.
Man now substitute nature products with man made of man completed products which wastes are toxic to nature or not decomposable.
Nature actually sustained man in years long ago. But human has to advance -science/technology/art- we can limit wastes causing harm to -nature/climate- use bio-base or bio-friendly products.

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https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/record-high-world-grain-production-for-second-year-in-a-row
RECORD-HIGH WORLD GRAIN PRODUCTION FOR SECOND YEAR IN A ROW

Quote from: gentlemand on August 30, 2020, 05:10:52 AM

If you'd shown someone even 50 years ago what the world population would be by now they would've automatically assumed we would all be starving to death yet we're muddling along.

Malthus thought that when we will never reach this as we would all be dead from hunger by the time the population would grow this big, but we were 800 million at the time of his death and now we're close to 8 billion, we haven't reached this level of human civilization by standing still and not acting, there is so much room for improvement in agriculture we could easily feed 10 billion.

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