Fast-Hash-400's 400 GH/s each - page 2.

iikun

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Quote from: kslaughter on May 02, 2013, 10:43:28 AM

Quote from: iikun on May 02, 2013, 09:46:50 AM

Quote from: kslaughter on May 01, 2013, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again. There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum. just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?" I'm going to have to punch my screen

Go ahead and punch your screen: Grin

*screen punched!* (softly, lol)

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Quote from: iikun on May 02, 2013, 09:46:50 AM

Quote from: kslaughter on May 01, 2013, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again. There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum. just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?" I'm going to have to punch my screen

Truth here - All this semiconductor company would need to do is use google to know they would have instant buisiness - This whole thing smells of scam - Although I will say if a company could make a PCB and use Avalon chips by ordering 200,000 of them and assemble thier own units they could make a ton of money selling them. - If only I had the knowledge and resources to do that Grin

kslaughter

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Quote from: iikun on May 02, 2013, 09:46:50 AM

Quote from: kslaughter on May 01, 2013, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again. There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum. just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?" I'm going to have to punch my screen

Go ahead and punch your screen: Grin

iikun

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Quote from: kslaughter on May 01, 2013, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again. There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

I think a "major semiconductor company" has better research methods than unscientific polls via an internet forum. just sayin...

And in any case there is more than enough evidence all over bitcointalk of the popularity and interest in asics. But if i see one more "we're building new asics, better than everyone else...are you interested?" I'm going to have to punch my screen

Aseras

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Quote from: Inspector 2211 on May 01, 2013, 08:19:15 PM

I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.

So is the minirig, at jally power draws, a minirig needs 9KW of power each. It's a portable fire starter and neighborhood light dimmer, and the power bill will each up a vast amount of profit.

the average household only can pull 3kw tops if you run everything you have all at once.

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Quote from: kslaughter on May 01, 2013, 09:23:55 PM

Quote from: m3whiteknight on May 01, 2013, 08:41:42 PM

BFL minirig was $30K for 1.5 Ths . Let say they double the price to $60K for 1.5Ths . That will be around $40 per Ghs . Fast hand machine is 400Ghs so 400 x $40 = $16K . That would be a fair deal, and a premium price around $20K will be the max that I will pay.

Just reduced it to $15,000.

cool i will buy fours

Inspector 2211

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Quote from: johnyj on May 02, 2013, 12:01:46 AM

(100) One Hundred Units - 16 (16.2%)

So you might be able to sell 1600 units at least Grin

17 now.

Wow - lots of millionaires reading bitcointalk.org...

johnyj

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Beyond Imagination

(100) One Hundred Units - 16 (16.2%)

So you might be able to sell 1600 units at least Grin

dan99

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let me know when is ready ..

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Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again. There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Build it and they will come.

aTg

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BadBear move the thread to speculation subforum no?

John (John K.)

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Away on an extended break

Now? If the prices aren't exorbitant... *throws bicoin piggy bank at kslaughter, provided escrow is used or he sends first*
Probably later? Nah. Tongue

howdoin

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Quote from: optimator on May 01, 2013, 09:46:38 PM

Be careful what you are asking.....

Easy math ( not exact, just easy): $15,000 = 150 btc. 400 gh/s = 15 btc / day. Break even = 10 days.

I'll take 10 please.

Ask me when 400 gh/s = 1.5 btc and I'll take zero.

I'll second that - if you can deliver 400ghash now (as stated in your edited original post) I'll take one unit. Deliver next month and I am less interested, deliver in July or August and I'd probably get better $/hash from dyi asics or maybe/possibly BFL in stock items...

optimator

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Be careful what you are asking.....

Easy math ( not exact, just easy): $15,000 = 150 btc. 400 gh/s = 15 btc / day. Break even = 10 days.

I'll take 10 please.

Ask me when 400 gh/s = 1.5 btc and I'll take zero.

milone

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Just reduced it to $15,000.

Wow, you clearly haven't put any time into this if you can just reduce the cost of your asic by $15,000/50% 20 minutes after someone points out how ridiculous the price is. I thought you had already designed the machines and cases?

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We are ready have the machines designed, we just need to spin up the Printed Circuit Boards (PCB)s get the Avalon chips and have them installed on the board. After we receive the boards we would install them in our already design rack-mountable cases. The rest of the system is off the shelf components which are readily available. At the same time we will start our 45nm development project.

That would imply you've done some sort of cost analysis or at least opened Calculator. That one brain cell I had telling me maybe I'm wrong about this just killed itself out of embarrassment.

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SPRINGFIELD, MO, – March 23, 2013 – AMC a hybrid mining and development cooperative has announced today that they are in talks with a Major Semiconductor Company which can provide ASIC's with lower up-front development cost, time, and reduced risk which are greatly reduced over other ASIC's. AMC said "With their simplified design flow, the time from RTL to device tape-out is typically only five to ten weeks for prototypes. This enables AMC's designers to bring new Bitcoin mining products on line quickly; then rapidly develop derivative products to cater to the Bitcoin's changing market requirements.

If you want to build asics, build asics. You'll have no problem selling them. But when you start selling shares and giving specs and saying how you can build them "better, cheaper, and faster than the other asics"... it reads scam. Build something, at least a prototype, and then come here and see what the demand is for it. If we have learned anything it is that building asics from scratch might be just a little bit harder than many realize.

By the way, what is "reduced risk which are greatly reduced over other ASIC's"? What risks are you referring to?

kslaughter

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Quote from: Cablez on May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM

Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again. There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.

Yes, I know that, but a Major Semiconductor Company does not.

kslaughter

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kslaughter

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Quote from: m3whiteknight on May 01, 2013, 08:43:31 PM

I also forgot that BFL rig is self contain. Fast hand rig will be rack mount so add additional cost to buy rack and setup etc.... to the final cost.

Did not say the it was Rack Mounted, it is Rack Mountable, only if you want it that way.

kslaughter

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Quote from: m3whiteknight on May 01, 2013, 08:41:42 PM

BFL minirig was $30K for 1.5 Ths . Let say they double the price to $60K for 1.5Ths . That will be around $40 per Ghs . Fast hand machine is 400Ghs so 400 x $40 = $16K . That would be a fair deal, and a premium price around $20K will be the max that I will pay.

Just reduced it to $15,000.

kslaughter

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Quote from: erk on May 01, 2013, 07:37:50 PM

Lack of substance on the website.
Smells fishy.

Just got the web site put together, not trying to sell anything at the point. Just trying
to get some information. See updated poll above.

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